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OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version,
even requests it. I'd like to make it better. I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb crumble. Yes? No? ![]() nb |
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On 8/26/2015 2:25 PM, notbob wrote:
> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, > even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > > I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med > sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added > onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of > Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb > crumble. Yes? No? ![]() MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. I won't listen to anyone who says different. nancy |
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>"notbob" wrote in message ...
> >OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, >even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > >I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med >sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added >onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of >Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb >crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > >nb I like adding a touch of bleu cheese in mine...and NO to the bread crumbs! - Kody |
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On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, > even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > > I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med > sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added > onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of > Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb > crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > > nb I like using different cheeses, a use up the bits and pieces out of the cheese drawer kind of thing. And I do like the crumb topping. |
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I just cook and drain the mac, put in a greased pie plate, put about 6 oz of shred sharp cheedar on it, put it in the oven until the cheese melt, about 6 min at 400 degrees.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:30:47 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote: >On 8/26/2015 2:25 PM, notbob wrote: >> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, >> even requests it. I'd like to make it better. >> >> I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med >> sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added >> onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of >> Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb >> crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > >MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. > >I won't listen to anyone who says different. The buttered bread crumbs make it au gratin. |
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On 8/27/2015 4:25 AM, notbob wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On 8/27/2015 4:30 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On 8/27/2015 4:39 AM, Kody wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On 8/27/2015 5:47 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the €œalleged€ lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty €“ I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment €“ but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal €“ GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimers Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family €“ a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On 8/27/2015 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On 8/27/2015 5:36 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On 26 Aug 2015 18:25:22 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, > even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > > I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med > sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added > onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of > Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb > crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > Yes, my DD requests it. I would mix panko with some melted butter and grated parmesan cheese if I made mac & cheese today. -- Elitist Snob |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:09:59 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote: > On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-7, notbob wrote: > > OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, > > even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > > > > I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med > > sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added > > onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of > > Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb > > crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > > > > nb > > I like using different cheeses, a use up the bits and pieces out of the cheese drawer kind of thing. And I do like the crumb topping. +1 Mac & cheese, quiche and souffle are great for that. -- Elitist Snob |
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On 8/27/2015 6:46 AM, sf wrote:
DEAR FAT ASS good morning fat ass how will your day go? will you be stared at like an enourmous blob? or be taunted and teased all day long? people say you can't do anything you cant do this or that but you will sure show them when your fat ass is in control it is all your fault fat ass you live to eat and dont eat to live well look at that fat ass a greasy cheese burger streaming down your lips and chin you are a worthless excuse for a human no one wants to see fat lock yourself inside your room until your thin and flat you would rather some one say **** her anorexic ass than **** you you fat fat ass words hurt as much as the weight they will be with you forever that extra baggage you can change show them you can do something No one wants to see a fat girl cry tears of grease and blubber you will no longer be the funny fat girl you will be just as cool as any other slide your finger down your throat when you dream of grease and junk the calories will fade away down the toilet with one flush dont eat today you will prove them right that is something you just can't do show them they dont have control over everything your weight is something you do Loose it all fat ass I want to see coller bones and down right thin dont cry when you become dizzy just know that it will help you in the end You can feel good about yourself fat ass you just have to learn control your punishment is a life full of pain and tears of grease and fried stuff thin is the way you have always wanted to be well you have a long journey to get there but change your life you **** of blubber run run fat ass let that fat ass shake no one wants to see that shit better run in your back yard instead skinny be thin fat ass be fat when weighing out your options which do you like better than fat? its not lie fat ass you have let yourself go its time to buckle down and crack those calories away when it is all said and done you will be worthy you will feel alive again see thin is the way to be and you are just a fat ass with no control again. |
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On 2015-08-26, tert in seattle > wrote:
> wrote: >> I just cook and drain the mac, put in a greased pie plate, put >> about 6 oz of shred sharp cheedar on it, put it in the oven until >> the cheese melt, about 6 min at 400 degrees. > sounds like mac n cheese nachos Sounds like what I was raised on! ![]() Exactly how my mom made it when I was a kid. Never had baked m/c or even Krap blue-box m/c. I'd still make it this way, but with good enough cheddar now costing big bucks, I decided to make a more traditional m/c. nb |
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On 8/27/2015 6:45 AM, sf wrote:
DEAR FAT ASS good morning fat ass how will your day go? will you be stared at like an enourmous blob? or be taunted and teased all day long? people say you can't do anything you cant do this or that but you will sure show them when your fat ass is in control it is all your fault fat ass you live to eat and dont eat to live well look at that fat ass a greasy cheese burger streaming down your lips and chin you are a worthless excuse for a human no one wants to see fat lock yourself inside your room until your thin and flat you would rather some one say **** her anorexic ass than **** you you fat fat ass words hurt as much as the weight they will be with you forever that extra baggage you can change show them you can do something No one wants to see a fat girl cry tears of grease and blubber you will no longer be the funny fat girl you will be just as cool as any other slide your finger down your throat when you dream of grease and junk the calories will fade away down the toilet with one flush dont eat today you will prove them right that is something you just can't do show them they dont have control over everything your weight is something you do Loose it all fat ass I want to see coller bones and down right thin dont cry when you become dizzy just know that it will help you in the end You can feel good about yourself fat ass you just have to learn control your punishment is a life full of pain and tears of grease and fried stuff thin is the way you have always wanted to be well you have a long journey to get there but change your life you **** of blubber run run fat ass let that fat ass shake no one wants to see that shit better run in your back yard instead skinny be thin fat ass be fat when weighing out your options which do you like better than fat? its not lie fat ass you have let yourself go its time to buckle down and crack those calories away when it is all said and done you will be worthy you will feel alive again see thin is the way to be and you are just a fat ass with no control again. |
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On 8/27/2015 7:21 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-08-26, tert in seattle > wrote: > ng big bucks, I decided to make a more > traditional m/c. > > nb > > > Mmmm hmmm... |
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On 2015-08-26, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Yes...a topping of melted butter, bread crumbs and some freshly grated > Parmesan. I always add some dry mustard powder to the sauce when I make > it. It adds a little je ne sais pas, whatever the heck that it. I've made it with Coleman's mustard pwdr, but didn't think it made that much differenc. Perhaps I didn't use enough. I think a good Gruyère is important. Maybe sub half n' half or cream to ameliorate the wateriness of the wine?? nb |
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On 2015-08-26, Nancy Young > wrote:
> > MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. > > I won't listen to anyone who says different. How does one butter a crumb? ![]() I assume one drizzles melted butter over crumbs. Yes? No? nb |
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On 8/27/2015 7:28 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-08-26, Dave Smith > wrote: > >> Yes...a topping of melted butter, bread crumbs and some freshly grated >> Parmesan. I always add some dry mustard powder to the sauce when I make >> it. It adds a little je ne sais pas, whatever the heck that it. > > I've made it with Coleman's mustard pwdr, but didn't think it made > that much differenc. Perhaps I didn't use enough. I think a good > Gruyère is important. > > Maybe sub half n' half or cream to ameliorate the wateriness of the wine?? > > nb > ' Mmmm hmmm... Ayup... |
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On 8/27/2015 7:29 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-08-26, Nancy Young > wrote: >> >> MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. >> >> I won't listen to anyone who says different. > > How does one butter a crumb? ![]() > > I assume one drizzles melted butter over crumbs. Yes? No? > > nb > Mmmm hmmm... |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2015-08-26, Nancy Young > wrote: >> >> MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. >> >> I won't listen to anyone who says different. > > How does one butter a crumb? ![]() > > I assume one drizzles melted butter over crumbs. Yes? No? > > nb > Yes, but... You can easily use softened butter and your hands and make a nice easily spread slurry to top things with. This also allows the addition of freshly chopped herbs, garlic, or parmesan if you choose. The way to go, imo. |
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On 8/27/2015 7:26 AM, el camino real wrote:
> On 8/27/2015 7:21 AM, notbob wrote: >> On 2015-08-26, tert in seattle > wrote: >> ng big bucks, I decided to make a more >> traditional m/c. >> >> nb >> >> >> > Mmmm hmmm... Mmmm hmmm... |
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On 8/27/2015 7:35 AM, el camino real wrote:
> On 8/27/2015 7:29 AM, notbob wrote: >> On 2015-08-26, Nancy Young > wrote: >>> >>> MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. >>> >>> I won't listen to anyone who says different. >> >> How does one butter a crumb? ![]() >> >> I assume one drizzles melted butter over crumbs. Yes? No? >> >> nb >> > > Mmmm hmmm... Mmmm hmmm... Ayup... |
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On 8/27/2015 7:36 AM, el camino real wrote:
> On 8/27/2015 7:26 AM, el camino real wrote: >> On 8/27/2015 7:21 AM, notbob wrote: >>> On 2015-08-26, tert in seattle > wrote: >>> ng big bucks, I decided to make a more >>> traditional m/c. >>> >>> nb >>> >>> >>> >> Mmmm hmmm... > > Mmmm hmmm... > Mmmm hmmm... Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 3:28 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-08-26, Dave Smith > wrote: > >> Yes...a topping of melted butter, bread crumbs and some freshly grated >> Parmesan. I always add some dry mustard powder to the sauce when I make >> it. It adds a little je ne sais pas, whatever the heck that it. > > I've made it with Coleman's mustard pwdr, but didn't think it made > that much differenc. Perhaps I didn't use enough. I think a good > Gruyère is important. > > Maybe sub half n' half or cream to ameliorate the wateriness of the wine?? > > nb > Butter might be better! |
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I need to try putting Bacos under the cheese.
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On 8/27/2015 8:13 AM, wrote:
> I need to try putting Batos under the cheese. > Mmmm hmmm... |
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Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 8/26/2015 2:25 PM, notbob wrote: > > OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, > > even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > > > > I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med > > sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added > > onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of > > Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread > > crumb crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > > MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. > > I won't listen to anyone who says different. > > nancy LOL! Sorry, omittable here. Carol -- |
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On 8/27/2015 9:35 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > Carol > > Mmmm hmmm... |
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On 8/26/2015 7:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On 8/26/2015 2:25 PM, notbob wrote: >>> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, >>> even requests it. I'd like to make it better. >>> >>> I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med >>> sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added >>> onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of >>> Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread >>> crumb crumble. Yes? No? ![]() >> >> MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. >> >> I won't listen to anyone who says different. LALALALALALALALAIcan'thearyou! nancy |
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On 8/27/2015 10:06 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/26/2015 7:35 PM, cshenk wrote: >> Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> >>> On 8/26/2015 2:25 PM, notbob wrote: >>>> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, >>>> even requests it. I'd like to make it better. >>>> >>>> I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med >>>> sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added >>>> onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of >>>> Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread >>>> crumb crumble. Yes? No? ![]() >>> >>> MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. >>> >>> I won't listen to anyone who says different. > > LALALALALALALALAIcan'thearyou! > > nancy > Mmmm hmmm... |
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On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 1:31:06 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 8/26/2015 2:25 PM, notbob wrote: > > > OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, > > even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > > > > MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. > > I won't listen to anyone who says different. > > nancy > > Yes! |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, > even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > > I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med > sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added > onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of > Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb > crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > > nb crumble, yes. What, no lobster? |
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On 26/08/2015 6:57 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message > ... >> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, >> even requests it. I'd like to make it better. >> >> I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med >> sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added >> onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of >> Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb >> crumble. Yes? No? ![]() >> >> nb > > crumble, yes. > > What, no lobster? > > Coincidentally, I had lobster M&C for dinner this evening, with a burgundy. Graham |
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![]() "graham" > wrote in message ... > On 26/08/2015 6:57 PM, taxed and spent wrote: >> "notbob" > wrote in message >> ... >>> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, >>> even requests it. I'd like to make it better. >>> >>> I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med >>> sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added >>> onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of >>> Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb >>> crumble. Yes? No? ![]() >>> >>> nb >> >> crumble, yes. >> >> What, no lobster? >> >> > Coincidentally, I had lobster M&C for dinner this evening, with a > burgundy. > Graham yes, I know. |
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On 8/26/2015 2:30 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/26/2015 2:25 PM, notbob wrote: >> OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, >> even requests it. I'd like to make it better. >> >> I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med >> sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added >> onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of >> Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb >> crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > > MUST HAVE buttered bread crumbs on mac n cheese casserole. > > I won't listen to anyone who says different. > > nancy > Mix some grated cheese in with the crumbs. |
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On 26 Aug 2015 18:25:22 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>OK. I love a good mac n' cheese. One person, who likes my version, >even requests it. I'd like to make it better. > >I make it using a simple wine/Gruyère Béchamel sauce poured over med >sized pre-cooked macaroni, then bake. Over the yrs, I've also added >onions, garlic, and ham. S&P to my taste. I saw an episode of >Kitchen Nightmare where Gordon topped it off w/ some sorta bread crumb >crumble. Yes? No? ![]() > Good thread... I've only started making mac n' cheese this year and am also interested in improving on it. Your recipe sounds good to me, I'll have to try bread crumble on mine next time. |
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