On 8/31/2015 2:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel drip coffee maker
> coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui hookers.


Maui has hookers?

I suppose I should not be surprised.

On 8/31/2015 10:37 AM, los Golondrinas wrote:
> On 8/31/2015 2:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel drip coffee maker
>> coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui hookers.
>
>
> Maui has hookers?
>
> I suppose I should not be surprised.
>
>

I was walking to my room at around 9 evening. There was a girl outside
of her room in a bikini waiting. My door was next to hers and it looked
like she was greeting me. I smiled but she was looking at the guy that
was walking behind me. It was a young, nervous-looking, kid with a well
worn backpack.

Thank God my son wasn't with me to witness this awful enterprise
happening in the next room. He probably would have asked me if I had a
hundred bucks or so...

On 8/31/2015 2:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/31/2015 10:37 AM, los Golondrinas wrote:
>> On 8/31/2015 2:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel drip coffee maker
>>> coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui hookers.
>>
>>
>> Maui has hookers?
>>
>> I suppose I should not be surprised.
>>
>>
>
> I was walking to my room at around 9 evening. There was a girl outside
> of her room in a bikini waiting. My door was next to hers and it looked
> like she was greeting me. I smiled but she was looking at the guy that
> was walking behind me. It was a young, nervous-looking, kid with a well
> worn backpack.
>
> Thank God my son wasn't with me to witness this awful enterprise
> happening in the next room. He probably would have asked me if I had a
> hundred bucks or so...


LOL!

And one would need to inquire about the daddy discount!

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:34:46 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

> I like trying hotel coffee makers. I'm forever searching for one that
> doesn't taste half bad - that would be cool. The last one I tried was in
> Maui an it tasted like the pre-measured pack was made during the Bush
> administration. OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel
> drip coffee maker coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui
> hookers.

Hookers? Have things degenerated that much over there? We used to go
for the beaches... Ooooooh, is that what you meant? LOL! You got
me.

--
Elitist Snob

On 8/31/2015 11:02 AM, los Golondrinas wrote:
> On 8/31/2015 2:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/31/2015 10:37 AM, los Golondrinas wrote:
>>> On 8/31/2015 2:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel drip coffee maker
>>>> coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui hookers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maui has hookers?
>>>
>>> I suppose I should not be surprised.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I was walking to my room at around 9 evening. There was a girl outside
>> of her room in a bikini waiting. My door was next to hers and it looked
>> like she was greeting me. I smiled but she was looking at the guy that
>> was walking behind me. It was a young, nervous-looking, kid with a well
>> worn backpack.
>>
>> Thank God my son wasn't with me to witness this awful enterprise
>> happening in the next room. He probably would have asked me if I had a
>> hundred bucks or so...
>
>
> LOL!
>
> And one would need to inquire about the daddy discount!

I'm gonna keep my big mouth shut!

On 8/31/2015 3:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/31/2015 11:02 AM, los Golondrinas wrote:
>> On 8/31/2015 2:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 8/31/2015 10:37 AM, los Golondrinas wrote:
>>>> On 8/31/2015 2:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel drip coffee maker
>>>>> coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui hookers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maui has hookers?
>>>>
>>>> I suppose I should not be surprised.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was walking to my room at around 9 evening. There was a girl outside
>>> of her room in a bikini waiting. My door was next to hers and it looked
>>> like she was greeting me. I smiled but she was looking at the guy that
>>> was walking behind me. It was a young, nervous-looking, kid with a well
>>> worn backpack.
>>>
>>> Thank God my son wasn't with me to witness this awful enterprise
>>> happening in the next room. He probably would have asked me if I had a
>>> hundred bucks or so...
>>
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> And one would need to inquire about the daddy discount!
>
> I'm gonna keep my big mouth shut!

Roger that.

On 8/31/2015 11:15 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:34:46 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>
>> I like trying hotel coffee makers. I'm forever searching for one that
>> doesn't taste half bad - that would be cool. The last one I tried was in
>> Maui an it tasted like the pre-measured pack was made during the Bush
>> administration. OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel
>> drip coffee maker coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui
>> hookers.
>
> Hookers? Have things degenerated that much over there? We used to go
> for the beaches... Ooooooh, is that what you meant? LOL! You got
> me.
>

The seamy underbelly of Maui. Hee hee.

On 8/31/2015 3:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/31/2015 11:15 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:34:46 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>>
>>> I like trying hotel coffee makers. I'm forever searching for one that
>>> doesn't taste half bad - that would be cool. The last one I tried was in
>>> Maui an it tasted like the pre-measured pack was made during the Bush
>>> administration. OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel
>>> drip coffee maker coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui
>>> hookers.
>>
>> Hookers? Have things degenerated that much over there? We used to go
>> for the beaches... Ooooooh, is that what you meant? LOL! You got
>> me.
>>
>
> The seamy underbelly of Maui. Hee hee.


So it's pile on Maui is it?

;-)

Life's a bitch...er beach eh?

On 8/31/2015 11:21 AM, los Golondrinas wrote:
> On 8/31/2015 3:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/31/2015 11:15 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:34:46 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like trying hotel coffee makers. I'm forever searching for one that
>>>> doesn't taste half bad - that would be cool. The last one I tried
>>>> was in
>>>> Maui an it tasted like the pre-measured pack was made during the Bush
>>>> administration. OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel
>>>> drip coffee maker coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui
>>>> hookers.
>>>
>>> Hookers? Have things degenerated that much over there? We used to go
>>> for the beaches... Ooooooh, is that what you meant? LOL! You got
>>> me.
>>>
>>
>> The seamy underbelly of Maui. Hee hee.
>
>
> So it's pile on Maui is it?
>
> ;-)
>
> Life's a bitch...er beach eh?
>
>

I was talking to a classmate of mine at Kailua high school. He knew all
about the criminal doings in my sleepy hometown. I had no idea. The
network of druggies where we live now is quite remarkable. Everybody in
the network knows how it's all going down. In their world, things happen
and situations change in a flash. They were able to help us when the
cops did nothing. It's just like in the ****in' movies! Mostly, it's a
world we try to stay away from.

http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...e-Aloha-State/

On 8/31/2015 3:59 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/31/2015 11:21 AM, los Golondrinas wrote:
>> On 8/31/2015 3:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 8/31/2015 11:15 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:34:46 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like trying hotel coffee makers. I'm forever searching for one that
>>>>> doesn't taste half bad - that would be cool. The last one I tried
>>>>> was in
>>>>> Maui an it tasted like the pre-measured pack was made during the Bush
>>>>> administration. OTOH, the tourists don't come to Maui to drink hotel
>>>>> drip coffee maker coffee. My guess is that they came for the Maui
>>>>> hookers.
>>>>
>>>> Hookers? Have things degenerated that much over there? We used to go
>>>> for the beaches... Ooooooh, is that what you meant? LOL! You got
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The seamy underbelly of Maui. Hee hee.
>>
>>
>> So it's pile on Maui is it?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Life's a bitch...er beach eh?
>>
>>
>
> I was talking to a classmate of mine at Kailua high school. He knew all
> about the criminal doings in my sleepy hometown. I had no idea. The
> network of druggies where we live now is quite remarkable. Everybody in
> the network knows how it's all going down. In their world, things happen
> and situations change in a flash. They were able to help us when the
> cops did nothing. It's just like in the ****in' movies! Mostly, it's a
> world we try to stay away from.
>
> http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...e-Aloha-State/
>
What a great series of articles, I suppose it's not unfair to say that
as Sinatra was to Vegas, so was Do Ho to Hawaii.

I had not considered the Yakuza influence, but it certainly makes
perfect sense.

Ah the underbelly of paradise, Yakuza, corrupt singers, hookers and Vog.

What a simmering rock you live on!

Janet B wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >Coffee is no big issue to me EXCEPT first thing in the morning. I only
> >drink one cup or less a day but I need it almost immediately after
> >getting up.
>
> Just give me my one cup in the morning and I'm good
> >for the day. :-D
>
> Me too! When traveling on business I would always order room service
> for first thing in the morning. It always bummed me out that the
> kitchen didn't deliver until 6:30 a.m.

As I've mentioned many times, I always get up before the sun. The
first thing I do is make a cup of coffee then check out emails and rfc
while enjoying the coffee. Or sometimes sit out on the back porch
enjoying the early morning with coffee. Just the one cup is enough
for me most times. Then I go to work 1-2 (or even 3) hours later.
Everyone goes in the store to buy their morning coffee but I don't.

Them: "Don't you want any coffee, Gary?"

Me: "Yeah but I finished mine 2 hours ago, you slackers!" ;-D

Gary wrote:
>Janet B wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>> >Coffee is no big issue to me EXCEPT first thing in the morning. I only
>> >drink one cup or less a day but I need it almost immediately after
>> >getting up.
>>
>> Just give me my one cup in the morning and I'm good
>> >for the day. :-D
>>
>> Me too! When traveling on business I would always order room service
>> for first thing in the morning. It always bummed me out that the
>> kitchen didn't deliver until 6:30 a.m.
>
>As I've mentioned many times, I always get up before the sun. The
>first thing I do is make a cup of coffee then check out emails and rfc
>while enjoying the coffee. Or sometimes sit out on the back porch
>enjoying the early morning with coffee. Just the one cup is enough
>for me most times. Then I go to work 1-2 (or even 3) hours later.
>Everyone goes in the store to buy their morning coffee but I don't.
>
>Them: "Don't you want any coffee, Gary?"
>
>Me: "Yeah but I finished mine 2 hours ago, you slackers!" ;-D

I can't remember the last time I bought a cup of coffee but it had to
be some 20 years ago, I brew my own at home or when I did a lot of
traveling there wasn't yet in room coffee so I traveled with my own
plastic electric percolator, a four cupper that really only made two
mugsful, I still have it packed in my backpack traveling kitchen
kit... contains everything I need to prepare most any gourmet meal,
even includes a small (15" diam.) three legged charcoal grill
purchased many years ago at a John's Bargain Store for $1.98, the legs
are removeable and fit inside the grill, pretty sturdy for $1.98... I
too have never been inside a Starbucks... I don't call what they serve
coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/frappe

On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 11:15:32 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>>Janet B wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> >Coffee is no big issue to me EXCEPT first thing in the morning. I only
>>> >drink one cup or less a day but I need it almost immediately after
>>> >getting up.
>>>
>>> Just give me my one cup in the morning and I'm good
>>> >for the day. :-D
>>>
>>> Me too! When traveling on business I would always order room service
>>> for first thing in the morning. It always bummed me out that the
>>> kitchen didn't deliver until 6:30 a.m.
>>
>>As I've mentioned many times, I always get up before the sun. The
>>first thing I do is make a cup of coffee then check out emails and rfc
>>while enjoying the coffee. Or sometimes sit out on the back porch
>>enjoying the early morning with coffee. Just the one cup is enough
>>for me most times. Then I go to work 1-2 (or even 3) hours later.
>>Everyone goes in the store to buy their morning coffee but I don't.
>>
>>Them: "Don't you want any coffee, Gary?"
>>
>>Me: "Yeah but I finished mine 2 hours ago, you slackers!" ;-D
>
>I can't remember the last time I bought a cup of coffee but it had to
>be some 20 years ago, I brew my own at home or when I did a lot of
>traveling there wasn't yet in room coffee so I traveled with my own
>plastic electric percolator, a four cupper that really only made two
>mugsful, I still have it packed in my backpack traveling kitchen
>kit... contains everything I need to prepare most any gourmet meal,
>even includes a small (15" diam.) three legged charcoal grill
>purchased many years ago at a John's Bargain Store for $1.98, the legs
>are removeable and fit inside the grill, pretty sturdy for $1.98... I
>too have never been inside a Starbucks... I don't call what they serve
>coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
>caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/frappe

Percolators commit a cardinal sin against coffee, they boil it!!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
> Percolators commit a cardinal sin against coffee, they boil it!!
>
> John Kuthe...

Cowboy coffee is boiled too, to no great loss of flavor.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> I don't call what they serve
> coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
> caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).

You can get straight(black )coffee too.

http://www.starbucks.com/coffee/our-...avored/buy/loc

http://www.starbucks.com/coffee/our-...avored/buy/loc

http://www.starbucks.com/menu/drinks...?foodZone=9999

In Europe, coffee is essentially espresso – which, in America, isn’t
very much coffee. To create a caffè americano – a coffee that satisfies
the American preference for more sips in every cup – Europeans simply
add hot water to their espresso. While the americano is similar in
strength and taste to American-style brewed coffee, there are subtle
differences achieved by pulling a fresh shot of espresso for the
beverage base. The best way to discover these nuances, of course, is to
try a cup yourself.

DID YOU KNOW

Whereas water is added to espresso after it’s been extracted in a caffè
americano, a lungo, or long espresso, is made by passing more water
through the espresso machine.

On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> I too have never been inside a Starbucks... I don't call what they serve
> coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
> caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).

You can get a plain cup of coffee at Starbuck's. People talk about
the frappalappacappucino; there's nothing to say about a plain
cuppa joe from Starbuck's (except that it's roasted too damned much).

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I too have never been inside a Starbucks... I don't call what they serve
>> coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
>> caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).
>
> You can get a plain cup of coffee at Starbuck's. People talk about
> the frappalappacappucino; there's nothing to say about a plain
> cuppa joe from Starbuck's (except that it's roasted too damned much).
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

We prefer Dunkin Donuts' cup.

On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 12:47:25 PM UTC-4, tres piedras wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> >> I too have never been inside a Starbucks... I don't call what they serve
> >> coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
> >> caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).
> >
> > You can get a plain cup of coffee at Starbuck's. People talk about
> > the frappalappacappucino; there's nothing to say about a plain
> > cuppa joe from Starbuck's (except that it's roasted too damned much).
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> We prefer Dunkin Donuts' cup.

My husband likes frappalappacappucino (with extra frappa), but
we usually aim for Panera.

What I really dislike about Starbucks is that they don't seem
to have fresh milk. UHT boxed milk tastes foul to me.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 12:47:25 PM UTC-4, tres piedras wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I too have never been inside a Starbucks... I don't call what they serve
>>>> coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
>>>> caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).
>>>
>>> You can get a plain cup of coffee at Starbuck's. People talk about
>>> the frappalappacappucino; there's nothing to say about a plain
>>> cuppa joe from Starbuck's (except that it's roasted too damned much).
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>> We prefer Dunkin Donuts' cup.
>
> My husband likes frappalappacappucino (with extra frappa), but
> we usually aim for Panera.
>
> What I really dislike about Starbucks is that they don't seem
> to have fresh milk. UHT boxed milk tastes foul to me.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


I don't do milk in my cup, I'm double shot expresso person, but that
boxed product would be an unfortunate choice for sure.

I also agree some of their roasts are burnt tasting.

But they have a lot of choices so one can choose accordingly.

They're pricey though, more so than Dunkin.

On 9/2/2015 2:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 12:47:25 PM UTC-4, tres piedras wrote:
anera.
>
> What I really dislike about Starbucks is that they don't seem
> to have fresh milk. UHT boxed milk tastes foul to me.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 10:02:34 -0600, tres piedras >
wrote:

> John Kuthe wrote:
> > Percolators commit a cardinal sin against coffee, they boil it!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> Cowboy coffee is boiled too, to no great loss of flavor.

Turkish coffee too. It isn't exactly boiled. The way I understand
the process is it's taken off the fire just before comes to a boil.

--
Elitist Snob

On 8/31/2015 9:48 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:03:06 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.f
> How OLD is that thing? Used or new?
>
Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

On 9/2/2015 1:29 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 11:15:32 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Janet B wrote:
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Coffee is no big issue to me EXCEPT first thing in the morning. I only
>>>>> drink one cup or less a day but I need it almost immediately after
>>>>> getting up.
>>>>
>>>> Just give me my one cup in the morning and I'm good
>>>>> for the day. :-D
>>>>
>>>> Me too! When traveling on business I would always order room service
>>>> for first thing in the morning. It always bummed me out that the
>>>> kitchen didn't deliver until 6:30 a.m.
>>>
>>> As I've mentioned many times, I always get up before the sun. The
>>> first thing I do is make a cup of coffee then check out emails and rfc
>>> while enjoying the coffee. Or sometimes sit out on the back porch
>>> enjoying the early morning with coffee. Just the one cup is enough
>>> for me most times. Then I go to work 1-2 (or even 3) hours later.
>>> Everyone goes in the store to buy their morning coffee but I don't.
>>>
>>> Them: "Don't you want any coffee, Gary?"
>>>
>>> Me: "Yeah but I finished mine 2 hours ago, you slackers!" ;-D
>>
>> I can't remember the last time I bought a cup of coffee but it had to
>> be some 20 years ago, I brew my own at home or when I did a lot of
>> traveling there wasn't yet in room coffee so I traveled with my own
>> plastic electric percolator, a four cupper that really only made two
>> mugsful, I still have it packed in my backpack traveling kitchen
>> kit... contains everything I need to prepare most any gourmet meal,
>> even includes a small (15" diam.) three legged charcoal grill
>> purchased many years ago at a John's Bargain Store for $1.98, the legs
>> are removeable and fit inside the grill, pretty sturdy for $1.98... I
>> too have never been inside a Starbucks... I don't call what they serve
>> coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
>> caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).
>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/frappe
>
> Percolators commit a cardinal sin against coffee, they boil it!!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

On 8/30/2015 5:55 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 05:50:14 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:36:50 +1000, Xeno >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/08/2015 11:16 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
>>>> On 8/29/15 1:18 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, he didn't exactly pick the right item to get all patriotic
>>>>>> about, that's for sure. Most all the best coffee grinders are European
>>>>>> made.
>>>>>
>>>>> What a blanket statement. Do you know all the American brands and have
>>>>> you tested them?
>>>>
>>>> There is no American-made high-end coffee mill (grinder) made. Period.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I bought my Ditting.
>>>
>>> Do Americans even know what "high end coffee" is? ;-)
>>
>> That's far more relevant than snobbing around over a grinder.
>
> I really like the Sumatran I buy from a local roaster.
>
> I don't give a rat's ass if it's "high end" or not.
>
> John Kuthe...
>
Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 10:02:34 -0600, tres piedras >
> wrote:
>
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>> Percolators commit a cardinal sin against coffee, they boil it!!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> Cowboy coffee is boiled too, to no great loss of flavor.
>
> Turkish coffee too. It isn't exactly boiled. The way I understand
> the process is it's taken off the fire just before comes to a boil.
>


Good recollection.

I never had a problem with proper percolated coffee either.

Some folks are just fussy.

On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-4, tres piedras wrote:

> > My husband likes frappalappacappucino (with extra frappa), but
> > we usually aim for Panera.
> >
> > What I really dislike about Starbucks is that they don't seem
> > to have fresh milk. UHT boxed milk tastes foul to me.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
>
> I don't do milk in my cup, I'm double shot expresso person, but that
> boxed product would be an unfortunate choice for sure.

Actually, I was talking about milk for drinking. Sometimes we go
to Charbucks and I don't feel like coffee, so I'd like milk.

> I also agree some of their roasts are burnt tasting.
>
> But they have a lot of choices so one can choose accordingly.
>
> They're pricey though, more so than Dunkin.

That they are.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/31/2015 3:40 AM, graham wrote:
> On 30/08/2015 12:42 AM, wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 6:37:39 AM UTC-7, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 29/08/2015 11:16 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
>>>> On 8/29/15 1:18 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, he didn't exactly pick the right item to get all patriotic
>>>>>> about, that's for sure. Most all the best coffee grinders are
>>>>>> European
>>>>>> made.
>>>>>
>>>>> What a blanket statement. Do you know all the American brands and have
>>>>> you tested them?
>>>>
>>>> There is no American-made high-end coffee mill (grinder) made. Period.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I bought my Ditting.
>>>>
>>>> -- Larry
>>>
>>> Do Americans even know what "high end coffee" is? ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Yes. Typically, Europeans drink cheap robusta beans roasted just shy
>> of charcoal.*
>
> That has changed. When I went to buy some of that sort of coffee in a
> French supermarket, they only sold good quality arabica.
>
> Americans drink Arabica beans roasted just enough to
>> bring the full flavor out.
>
> Really? USians used to laugh at the coffee that Brits drank. However,
> when I moved over the pond, I tasted some of the worst coffee ever in US
> diners and restaurants. It took Starbucks to change USians concept of
> good coffee.
> Graham

Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>> What I really dislike about Starbucks is that they don't seem
>>> to have fresh milk. UHT boxed milk tastes foul to me.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>
>> I don't do milk in my cup, I'm double shot expresso person, but that
>> boxed product would be an unfortunate choice for sure.
>
> Actually, I was talking about milk for drinking. Sometimes we go
> to Charbucks and I don't feel like coffee, so I'd like milk.

Ok, hadn't considered that.

Convenience however rules, same as in McDs.

>> I also agree some of their roasts are burnt tasting.
>>
>> But they have a lot of choices so one can choose accordingly.
>>
>> They're pricey though, more so than Dunkin.
>
> That they are.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

And no expresso either, rats :-(

On 9/2/2015 2:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I too have never been inside a Starbucks... I don't call what they serve
>> coffee, all I've heard about are coffee flavored sweet/fatty high
>> caloric concoctions (hot milk shake/frappé).
>
> You can get a plain cup of coffee at Starbuck's. People talk about
> the frappalappacappucino; there's nothing to say about a plain
> cuppa joe from Starbuck's (except that it's roasted too damned much).
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

On 8/31/2015 3:38 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 9:15:40 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:39:50 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:40:15 AM UTC-7, graham wrote:
>>>> On 30/08/2015 12:42 AM, wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 6:37:39 AM UTC-7, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do Americans even know what "high end coffee" is? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Typically, Europeans drink cheap robusta beans roasted just shy
>>>>> of charcoal.*
>>>>
>>>> That has changed. When I went to buy some of that sort of coffee in a
>>>> French supermarket, they only sold good quality arabica.
>>>>
>>>> Americans drink Arabica beans roasted just enough to
>>>>> bring the full flavor out.
>>>>
>>>> Really? USians used to laugh at the coffee that Brits drank. However,
>>>> when I moved over the pond, I tasted some of the worst coffee ever in US
>>>> diners and restaurants. It took Starbucks to change USians concept of
>>>> good coffee.
>>>
>>> There are always some restaurateurs who hate their patrons. But in my
>>> experience, people who sell bad-tasting coffee start with bad-tasting
>>> water.
>>
>> How do you explain coffee that's more like coffee flavored water?
>> Thanks to the proliferation of Starbucks, I haven't run into that one
>> in years but I remember dreading road trips because of all the bad
>> coffee. After a couple of disappointments, I'd give up coffee for the
>> rest of the trip.
>>
>
> Not enough grounds per cup.
>
> But diner coffee was bad even in SF, a half-century ago:
> A Great City's People Forced to Drink Swill
>
> http://blog.sfgate.com/thebigevent/2...0-years-later/
>
Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

On 9/1/2015 7:15 AM, sf wrote:


DEAR FAT ASS

good morning fat ass
how will your day go?
will you be stared at like an enourmous blob?
or be taunted and teased all day long?

people say you can't do anything
you cant do this or that
but you will sure show them
when your fat ass is in control

it is all your fault fat ass
you live to eat and dont eat to live
well look at that fat ass
a greasy cheese burger streaming down your lips and chin

you are a worthless excuse for a human
no one wants to see fat
lock yourself inside your room
until your thin and flat



you would rather some one say
**** her anorexic ass
than **** you
you fat fat ass


words hurt as much as the weight
they will be with you forever
that extra baggage you can change
show them you can do something

No one wants to see a fat girl cry
tears of grease and blubber
you will no longer be the funny fat girl
you will be just as cool as any other

slide your finger down your throat
when you dream of grease and junk
the calories will fade away
down the toilet with one flush

dont eat today
you will prove them right
that is something
you just can't do

show them they dont
have control over everything
your weight
is something you do

Loose it all fat ass
I want to see coller bones
and down right thin

dont cry when you become dizzy
just know that it will help you in the end

You can feel good about yourself fat ass
you just have to learn control
your punishment is a life full of pain
and tears of grease and fried stuff

thin is the way you have always wanted to be
well you have a long journey to get there
but change your life
you **** of blubber

run run fat ass
let that fat ass shake
no one wants to see that shit
better run in your back yard instead

skinny
be thin
fat ass
be fat
when weighing out your options
which do you like better than fat?


its not lie fat ass
you have let yourself go
its time to buckle down
and crack those calories away


when it is all said and done
you will be worthy
you will feel alive again
see thin is the way to be

and you are just a fat ass with no control again.

On 9/1/2015 1:04 AM, sf wrote:



DEAR FAT ASS

good morning fat ass
how will your day go?
will you be stared at like an enourmous blob?
or be taunted and teased all day long?

people say you can't do anything
you cant do this or that
but you will sure show them
when your fat ass is in control

it is all your fault fat ass
you live to eat and dont eat to live
well look at that fat ass
a greasy cheese burger streaming down your lips and chin

you are a worthless excuse for a human
no one wants to see fat
lock yourself inside your room
until your thin and flat



you would rather some one say
**** her anorexic ass
than **** you
you fat fat ass


words hurt as much as the weight
they will be with you forever
that extra baggage you can change
show them you can do something

No one wants to see a fat girl cry
tears of grease and blubber
you will no longer be the funny fat girl
you will be just as cool as any other

slide your finger down your throat
when you dream of grease and junk
the calories will fade away
down the toilet with one flush

dont eat today
you will prove them right
that is something
you just can't do

show them they dont
have control over everything
your weight
is something you do

Loose it all fat ass
I want to see coller bones
and down right thin

dont cry when you become dizzy
just know that it will help you in the end

You can feel good about yourself fat ass
you just have to learn control
your punishment is a life full of pain
and tears of grease and fried stuff

thin is the way you have always wanted to be
well you have a long journey to get there
but change your life
you **** of blubber

run run fat ass
let that fat ass shake
no one wants to see that shit
better run in your back yard instead

skinny
be thin
fat ass
be fat
when weighing out your options
which do you like better than fat?


its not lie fat ass
you have let yourself go
its time to buckle down
and crack those calories away


when it is all said and done
you will be worthy
you will feel alive again
see thin is the way to be

and you are just a fat ass with no control again.

On 8/29/2015 11:20 AM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 8/28/2015 1:03 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> And I especially love NOT SENDING ANY OF MY MONEY TO CHINA!!
>
> Have you looked at the balance of payments between the US and China?
>
> And the Swiss make the best coffee mills, anyway.
>
> -- Larry
>
>
Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:51:49 -0600, tres piedras >
wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 10:02:34 -0600, tres piedras >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> John Kuthe wrote:
> >>> Percolators commit a cardinal sin against coffee, they boil it!!
> >>>
> >>> John Kuthe...
> >>
> >> Cowboy coffee is boiled too, to no great loss of flavor.
> >
> > Turkish coffee too. It isn't exactly boiled. The way I understand
> > the process is it's taken off the fire just before it comes to a boil.
> >
>
> Good recollection.
>
> I never had a problem with proper percolated coffee either.
>
Me either, but a local (Arab) coffee vendor taught me how and I never
let it sit for hours warming on the stove.

> Some folks are just fussy.

The people who think Starbucks is over roasted (Charbucks) are the
reason so much coffee tastes like dirty dishwater to me. I only buy
dark roast. Light roast is for people who should be drinking tea or
hot chocolate and medium roast is for coffee wimps.

--
Elitist Snob

On 9/2/2015 5:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-4, tres piedras wrote:
>
>>> My husband likes frappalappacappucino (with extra frappa), but
>>> we usually aim for Panera.
>>>
>>> What I really dislike about Starbucks is that they don't seem
>>> to have fresh milk. UHT boxed milk tastes foul to me.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>
>> I don't do milk in my cup, I'm double shot expresso person, but that
>> boxed product would be an unfortunate choice for sure.
>
> Actually, I was talking about milk for drinking. Sometimes we go
> to Charbucks and I don't feel like coffee, so I'd like milk.
>
>> I also agree some of their roasts are burnt tasting.
>>
>> But they have a lot of choices so one can choose accordingly.
>>
>> They're pricey though, more so than Dunkin.
>
> That they are.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

On 9/2/2015 4:42 AM, sf wrote:


You have enough fat to make another 7 humans.

On 9/2/2015 5:39 AM, sf wrote:


DEAR FAT ASS

good morning fat ass
how will your day go?
will you be stared at like an enourmous blob?
or be taunted and teased all day long?

people say you can't do anything
you cant do this or that
but you will sure show them
when your fat ass is in control

it is all your fault fat ass
you live to eat and dont eat to live
well look at that fat ass
a greasy cheese burger streaming down your lips and chin

you are a worthless excuse for a human
no one wants to see fat
lock yourself inside your room
until your thin and flat



you would rather some one say
**** her anorexic ass
than **** you
you fat fat ass


words hurt as much as the weight
they will be with you forever
that extra baggage you can change
show them you can do something

No one wants to see a fat girl cry
tears of grease and blubber
you will no longer be the funny fat girl
you will be just as cool as any other

slide your finger down your throat
when you dream of grease and junk
the calories will fade away
down the toilet with one flush

dont eat today
you will prove them right
that is something
you just can't do

show them they dont
have control over everything
your weight
is something you do

Loose it all fat ass
I want to see coller bones
and down right thin

dont cry when you become dizzy
just know that it will help you in the end

You can feel good about yourself fat ass
you just have to learn control
your punishment is a life full of pain
and tears of grease and fried stuff

thin is the way you have always wanted to be
well you have a long journey to get there
but change your life
you **** of blubber

run run fat ass
let that fat ass shake
no one wants to see that shit
better run in your back yard instead

skinny
be thin
fat ass
be fat
when weighing out your options
which do you like better than fat?


its not lie fat ass
you have let yourself go
its time to buckle down
and crack those calories away


when it is all said and done
you will be worthy
you will feel alive again
see thin is the way to be

and you are just a fat ass with no control again.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:51:49 -0600, tres piedras >
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 10:02:34 -0600, tres piedras >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>> Percolators commit a cardinal sin against coffee, they boil it!!
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> Cowboy coffee is boiled too, to no great loss of flavor.
>>>
>>> Turkish coffee too. It isn't exactly boiled. The way I understand
>>> the process is it's taken off the fire just before it comes to a boil.
>>>
>>
>> Good recollection.
>>
>> I never had a problem with proper percolated coffee either.
>>
> Me either, but a local (Arab) coffee vendor taught me how and I never
> let it sit for hours warming on the stove.

There's the rub all right.

You want to make it fresh and consume when so.

>> Some folks are just fussy.
>
> The people who think Starbucks is over roasted (Charbucks) are the
> reason so much coffee tastes like dirty dishwater to me. I only buy
> dark roast. Light roast is for people who should be drinking tea or
> hot chocolate and medium roast is for coffee wimps.

I tend to like a slightly less strong variety for my expresso (at home),
but the real taste difference comes when comparing their basic black
against Dunkin's.

The Dunkin coffee has a far more balanced and drinkable body, but that's
to my tastes.

I also enjoy a good strong cowboy coffee with a nice dose of turbinado
sugar, so my tastes do run the gamut.

I am just happy to not have tasted Sanka or Nescafe in decades.