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On 8/30/2015 9:55 AM, gtr wrote:
> Curious to think one could buy a gas BBQ which by definition can't
> produce BBQ, or a gas grill that by definition can't grill.


Odd to see a knobhead like you tying themselves in knots with misguided
semantics.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/barbecue

1. A grill, pit, or outdoor fireplace for roasting meat.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/grill

1. To broil on a gridiron.


By DEFINITION a gas grill performs BOTH functions nicely.

So, why are you such a moron?
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On 8/30/2015 10:03 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/30/2015 11:55 AM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2015-08-30 15:22:11 +0000, Nancy Young said:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2015 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.
>>>
>>> Of course it is. You might argue it's not BBQ, but it is
>>> grilling.

>>
>> Curious to think one could buy a gas BBQ which by definition can't
>> produce BBQ,

>
> I'm not sure what device that is. A gas smoker?


Please...


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/barbecue

1. A grill, pit, or outdoor fireplace for roasting meat.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/grill

1. To broil on a gridiron.

> >or a gas grill that by definition can't grill.

>
> Cooking over a flame is grilling.


Obviously.

> I genuinely don't care if
> people like charcoal briquettes over gas, if I wanted to I'd
> save some money and get a charcoal grill. It's not something
> I care about, certainly don't want to fuss with waiting for
> coals.
>
> To each his own.
>
> nancy


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On 8/30/2015 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:
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>>> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in
>>> the winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

>>
>> A possible solution:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e
>>

> Or, you could just cook when it's not dark outside.



Well that lets out September through April in Canuckistan.
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On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 1:07:03 PM UTC-4, los Golondrinas wrote:
> On 8/30/2015 8:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:04:39 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> I'm thrilled for you! Honestly, pan frying or broiling a steak and
> >> cooking corn on the cob indoors doesn't stink up my house.

> >
> > I think my house has a curse on it when it comes to airflow. Every
> > room has a vent and a return, yet smells migrate toward the bedroom.
> > Perhaps some sort of hungry ghost lives in the bedroom and sucks the
> > vapors in that direction.

>
> I suspect you have either a poorly sealed window or some type of attic
> insulation issue.


Probably not the attic. We recently had another foot blown in,
and they did a marvelous job of sealing the hatch.

> Odors travel with air flow, and you are describing a low pressure leak
> in that room.


True. I suppose I could try closing all of the doors in the house.
It wouldn't be definitive, perhaps, because some previous owner trimmed
all of the doors when they installed carpeting, which we subsequently
ripped up. Nice hardwood floors underneath; pity they need refinishing.

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On 8/30/2015 10:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> But you live in a brick building -


ESAD, woman-stalker!


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On 8/30/2015 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/30/2015 12:03 PM, Nancy Young wrote:


>> Cooking over a flame is grilling. I genuinely don't care if
>> people like charcoal briquettes over gas, if I wanted to I'd
>> save some money and get a charcoal grill. It's not something
>> I care about, certainly don't want to fuss with waiting for
>> coals.
>>
>> To each his own.


> I consider cooking on a gas grill cooking outside. In order for food to
> be called grilled it needs to be cooked over an open flame.


Like the flame on my gas grill.

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On 8/30/2015 11:26 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 1:07:03 PM UTC-4, los Golondrinas wrote:
>> On 8/30/2015 8:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:04:39 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm thrilled for you! Honestly, pan frying or broiling a steak and
>>>> cooking corn on the cob indoors doesn't stink up my house.
>>>
>>> I think my house has a curse on it when it comes to airflow. Every
>>> room has a vent and a return, yet smells migrate toward the bedroom.
>>> Perhaps some sort of hungry ghost lives in the bedroom and sucks the
>>> vapors in that direction.

>>
>> I suspect you have either a poorly sealed window or some type of attic
>> insulation issue.

>
> Probably not the attic. We recently had another foot blown in,
> and they did a marvelous job of sealing the hatch.


Understood, has to be a window frame then.

>> Odors travel with air flow, and you are describing a low pressure leak
>> in that room.

>
> True. I suppose I could try closing all of the doors in the house.
> It wouldn't be definitive, perhaps, because some previous owner trimmed
> all of the doors when they installed carpeting, which we subsequently
> ripped up. Nice hardwood floors underneath; pity they need refinishing.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


You can get an inexpensive "smoke" leak tester at many hardware stores.

http://www.improvementcenter.com/win...air-leaks.html

http://www.plumbertools.com/smoke/resident.html

Seal the home, then start testing and you'll quickly find where the
leaks are.

Surprisingly electrical outlets are often the culprit.

They can be sealed up with expanding foam after shutting the breakers off.


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On 8/30/2015 11:30 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> I consider cooking on a gas grill cooking outside. In order for food to
>> be called grilled it needs to be cooked over an open flame.

>
> Like the flame on my gas grill.
>
> nancy


Yes.
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On 2015-08-30 11:57 AM, gtr wrote:

>> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in
>> the winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

>
> A possible solution:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e
>



True. AAMOF, I already have a very good headlamp, a Petzl LED with a USB
recharger. It is usually packed away with my kayaking gear so I never
thought of it. That would leave my hands free.
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On 2015-08-30 12:31 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> The golfers around here don't clear off the course unless they sound the
> siren. They're idiots. They stand out there holding metal clubs
> whacking their silly balls around. HINT: if you hear thunder there is
> bound to be lightning. What a great time to hang onto a metal club!


There are a lot of golf courses around here and almost every year some
rocket scientist plays Ben Franklin in a storm. We were at the dog park
last week and when a storm moved in we decided it was time to go. I
learned about the sirens that day. I had not realized that golfers were
so dumb that they had to use a siren, but I heard it go off that
day.




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On 8/30/2015 1:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-30 12:31 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> The golfers around here don't clear off the course unless they sound the
>> siren. They're idiots. They stand out there holding metal clubs
>> whacking their silly balls around. HINT: if you hear thunder there is
>> bound to be lightning. What a great time to hang onto a metal club!

>
> There are a lot of golf courses around here and almost every year some
> rocket scientist plays Ben Franklin in a storm. We were at the dog park
> last week and when a storm moved in we decided it was time to go. I
> learned about the sirens that day. I had not realized that golfers were
> so dumb that they had to use a siren, but I heard it go off that
> day.
>
>

I never said these people were the brightest bricks on the block.

It is pouring down rain again at the moment. Thundering, too. My cat
is playing with a golf ball.

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On 8/30/2015 1:30 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/30/2015 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/30/2015 12:03 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>
>>> Cooking over a flame is grilling. I genuinely don't care if
>>> people like charcoal briquettes over gas, if I wanted to I'd
>>> save some money and get a charcoal grill. It's not something
>>> I care about, certainly don't want to fuss with waiting for
>>> coals.
>>>
>>> To each his own.

>
>> I consider cooking on a gas grill cooking outside. In order for food to
>> be called grilled it needs to be cooked over an open flame.

>
> Like the flame on my gas grill.
>
> nancy
>
>

Point taken.

It's pouring down again right now. Not my idea of an ideal cooking
situation.

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On 8/30/2015 3:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:49:54 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/2015 3:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> You've cooked corn and beef before <yawn> but you've probably never
>>> cooked it naked. Turn off the inside lights and rely on the
>>> moonlight.
>>>

>> 'Twas a brae bricht min licht nicht a nicht! But no, I didn't cook it
>> outdoors and I wasn't naked.

>
> You could have just worn a short, frilly apron, too.
>
> -sw
>

I do have one of those!

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:49:54 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/2015 3:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> You've cooked corn and beef before <yawn> but you've probably never
>>> cooked it naked. Turn off the inside lights and rely on the
>>> moonlight.
>>>

>> 'Twas a brae bricht min licht nicht a nicht! But no, I didn't cook it
>> outdoors and I wasn't naked.

>
> You could have just worn a short, frilly apron, too.


If she wants to show off her Scottish at least tell her to get it right


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On 8/30/2015 1:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:49:54 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/2015 3:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> You've cooked corn and beef before <yawn> but you've probably never
>>> cooked it naked. Turn off the inside lights and rely on the
>>> moonlight.
>>>

>> 'Twas a brae bricht min licht nicht a nicht! But no, I didn't cook it
>> outdoors and I wasn't naked.

>
> You could have just worn a short, frilly apron, too.
>
> -sw
>


Are you going to stalk her now like you did with poor Omelet?

You really are human refuse.


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On 8/30/2015 2:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/30/2015 3:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:49:54 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2015 3:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> You've cooked corn and beef before <yawn> but you've probably never
>>>> cooked it naked. Turn off the inside lights and rely on the
>>>> moonlight.
>>>>
>>> 'Twas a brae bricht min licht nicht a nicht! But no, I didn't cook it
>>> outdoors and I wasn't naked.

>>
>> You could have just worn a short, frilly apron, too.
>>
>> -sw
>>

> I do have one of those!
>
> Jill



Oh good grief, are you so hard up you'd need to titillate that chipmunk
cheeked stalker?


https://www.austinfoodbank.org/news/...unteer-quarter


Yeesh!
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On 8/30/2015 2:16 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:49:54 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2015 3:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> You've cooked corn and beef before <yawn> but you've probably never
>>>> cooked it naked. Turn off the inside lights and rely on the
>>>> moonlight.
>>>>
>>> 'Twas a brae bricht min licht nicht a nicht! But no, I didn't cook it
>>> outdoors and I wasn't naked.

>>
>> You could have just worn a short, frilly apron, too.

>
> If she wants to show off her Scottish at least tell her to get it right
>
>

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On 8/30/2015 4:16 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:49:54 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2015 3:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> You've cooked corn and beef before <yawn> but you've probably never
>>>> cooked it naked. Turn off the inside lights and rely on the
>>>> moonlight.
>>>>
>>> 'Twas a brae bricht min licht nicht a nicht! But no, I didn't cook it
>>> outdoors and I wasn't naked.

>>
>> You could have just worn a short, frilly apron, too.

>
> If she wants to show off her Scottish at least tell her to get it right
>
>

Terribly sorry to offend. I'm American, only Scottish by ancestry.

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On 8/30/2015 1:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-30 11:57 AM, gtr wrote:
>
>>> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in
>>> the winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

>>
>> A possible solution:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e
>>

>
>
> True. AAMOF, I already have a very good headlamp, a Petzl LED with a USB
> recharger. It is usually packed away with my kayaking gear so I never
> thought of it. That would leave my hands free.


Interesting. I don't need a "solution" since I don't cook outside in
the dark.

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On 2015-08-30 6:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:14:09 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-29 9:21 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>> I'd prefer to use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's
>>>> already rained twice today.
>>>
>>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any
>>> weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>>

>> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in the
>> winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

>
> Three letters: LED
> These will light your entire grilling/eating area like daylight,
> brightly lights more than 100'X100' area for miniscule wattage:
>
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...p age_o03_s00
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...p age_o04_s00
>

I will wait for one that is solar powered. I will be cooking within a
couple hours of sundown. I have a halogen powered light out there. For
the amount of time I would need to run it I am not concerned about the
cost.

I guess the truth is that I like to BBQ with a drink in my hand.
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On 8/30/2015 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I guess the truth is that I like to BBQ with a drink in my hand.



Very Canuckian of you!
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On 2015-08-30 16:04:53 +0000, jmcquown said:

> On 8/30/2015 11:57 AM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2015-08-30 13:14:09 +0000, Dave Smith said:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-29 9:21 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'd prefer to use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's
>>>>> already rained twice today.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any
>>>> weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>>>
>>> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in
>>> the winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

>>
>> A possible solution:
>>
>>
http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e
>>

> Or, you could just cook when it's not dark outside. Or cook inside the
> house.


Or order in, or eat out--there are always solutions!

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On 2015-08-30 17:49:27 +0000, Dave Smith said:

> On 2015-08-30 11:57 AM, gtr wrote:
>
>>> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in
>>> the winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

>>
>> A possible solution:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e

>
> True. AAMOF, I already have a very good headlamp, a Petzl LED with a
> USB recharger. It is usually packed away with my kayaking gear so I
> never thought of it. That would leave my hands free.


I got one as an impulse purchase at REI. I have no idea if I had a
reason for it. Perhaps playing off a music stand in low-light. In any
case the wife was carping during the winter about gleaning herbs and
vegetables at night. I mentioned the headlamp to her, and that was the
last I've seen of it. And the last of the carping too.

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On 2015-08-30 16:31:59 +0000, jmcquown said:

> The golfers around here don't clear off the course unless they sound
> the siren. They're idiots. They stand out there holding metal clubs
> whacking their silly balls around. HINT: if you hear thunder there is
> bound to be lightning. What a great time to hang onto a metal club!


Similarly the children in our neighborhood won't go in despite being
called by their parents, despite the darkness until the parental tone
has shifted to steel and ice.

> No one around here wears golf clothes like the ones in those links.
> It's too darn hot for clothing that heavy. Most of the men don't even
> wear slacks except in the winter. Shorts, Izod-type shirts.
> Thank god they've mostly given up on plaid although there are a few
> die-hards.
>
> The women sometimes wear skorts but mostly shorts and tank tops.
> People do carry golf umbrellas.
>
> I had a fun time a few years ago when they had a college tournament.
> It was very windy and I was watching (the 11th green is right behind my
> house). One guy's umbrella blew off the green. He went running after
> it, cussing a blue streak. I cracked up. Dude, you probably should
> have unfurled the umbrella before trying to make that putt.
>
> Meanwhile, I'm still not cooking outdoors in the rain.


If you keep up this way, you're going to get really good at not doing it.



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On 2015-08-30 17:10:46 +0000, Dave Smith said:

> That's curious because some purists don't think that grilling on a gas
> BBQ is BBQing. Grilling is described as a form of cooking, usually
> meat, using heat from directly above or below, and it can be done on a
> solid surface like a flat top, grille or frying pan, or in a grate.


Your definition didn't explicitly exclude broiling (heat from above) or baking.

I just looked "barbecue" up and it just makes things more non-specific.

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On 8/30/2015 8:24 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-08-30 16:04:53 +0000, jmcquown said:
>
>> On 8/30/2015 11:57 AM, gtr wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-30 13:14:09 +0000, Dave Smith said:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-29 9:21 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I'd prefer to use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's
>>>>>> already rained twice today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any
>>>>> weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>>>>
>>>> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in
>>>> the winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.
>>>
>>> A possible solution:
>>>
>>>
http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e
>>>

>> Or, you could just cook when it's not dark outside. Or cook inside
>> the house.

>
> Or order in, or eat out--there are always solutions!
>

Um, no. I can't order in. I can't even get pizza delivered where I
live. Besides, I'd rather cook my own food. Just not outside when it's
pouring down rain. Which it is still doing. Rain, rain, rain.

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On 8/30/2015 8:28 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-08-30 16:31:59 +0000, jmcquown said:
>
>> The golfers around here don't clear off the course unless they sound
>> the siren. They're idiots. They stand out there holding metal clubs
>> whacking their silly balls around. HINT: if you hear thunder there is
>> bound to be lightning. What a great time to hang onto a metal club!

>
> Similarly the children in our neighborhood won't go in despite being
> called by their parents, despite the darkness until the parental tone
> has shifted to steel and ice.
>
>> No one around here wears golf clothes like the ones in those links.
>> It's too darn hot for clothing that heavy. Most of the men don't even
>> wear slacks except in the winter. Shorts, Izod-type shirts.
>> Thank god they've mostly given up on plaid although there are a few
>> die-hards.
>>
>> The women sometimes wear skorts but mostly shorts and tank tops.
>> People do carry golf umbrellas.
>>
>> I had a fun time a few years ago when they had a college tournament.
>> It was very windy and I was watching (the 11th green is right behind
>> my house). One guy's umbrella blew off the green. He went running
>> after it, cussing a blue streak. I cracked up. Dude, you probably
>> should have unfurled the umbrella before trying to make that putt.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I'm still not cooking outdoors in the rain.

>
> If you keep up this way, you're going to get really good at not doing it.
>

There's a reason most people have kitchens indoors. I'm pretty good at
making a nice pan-seared steak on the stovetop.

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On 2015-08-31 00:39:34 +0000, jmcquown said:

>>>> A possible solution:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e
>>>>
>>> Or, you could just cook when it's not dark outside. Or cook inside
>>> the house.

>>
>> Or order in, or eat out--there are always solutions!
>>

> Um, no. I can't order in. I can't even get pizza delivered where I live.


Sorry, my apologies. I'm sure there are upside trade-offs to living
near the--is it the 11th hole?

> Besides, I'd rather cook my own food. Just not outside when it's
> pouring down rain. Which it is still doing. Rain, rain, rain.


I live in SoCal. Listening to this kind of endless bragging has its limits...

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On 8/30/2015 8:48 PM, gtr wrote:
> I live in SoCal. Listening to this kind of endless bragging has its
> limits...



Oh that just fits.

You live in the world's largest gridlock.

That explains you.


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On 8/30/2015 10:48 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-08-31 00:39:34 +0000, jmcquown said:
>
>>>>> A possible solution:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e
>>>>>
>>>> Or, you could just cook when it's not dark outside. Or cook inside
>>>> the house.
>>>
>>> Or order in, or eat out--there are always solutions!
>>>

>> Um, no. I can't order in. I can't even get pizza delivered where I
>> live.

>
> Sorry, my apologies. I'm sure there are upside trade-offs to living
> near the--is it the 11th hole?
>

The 11th green, yep. The upside is it doesn't get cold.

>> Besides, I'd rather cook my own food. Just not outside when it's
>> pouring down rain. Which it is still doing. Rain, rain, rain.

>
> I live in SoCal. Listening to this kind of endless bragging has its
> limits...
>

Sorry! I'd send some to all who need rain if I could.

Jill
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> Hey, I wasn't trying to talk you into it. I have a natural gas grill about 3
> steps outside my kitchen door and it's under an overhang, so unless it's
> windy I won't get wet or need rain gear. It also has its own lights and I
> have lights installed that point at the grill because of a previous one that
> didn't have its own lights. In cold weather I don't hang around outside, I
> go out, turn the steak or chops or whatever and then step back inside. Don't
> even need a coat for the amount of time I spend out there when it's cold.
>
> But, again, not trying to convince you to do anything you don't want or like
> to do.


Too late--I'm convinced! I just wish we had this "cold weather" you
speak of.
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On 9/1/2015 11:23 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/31/2015 6:10 PM, wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 10:54:51 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2015 9:21 PM,
wrote:
>>>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any
>>>> weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>>
>>>>
>>> Yeah, so? Just proves I'm not a cavewoman. I'm not going to don a
>>> slicker and pretend to have fun cooking in the rain or sleet or wind or
>>> snow. If the weather is nice, I'll cook outside.

>>
>> Hey, I wasn't trying to talk you into it. I have a natural gas grill
>> about 3 steps outside my kitchen door and it's under an overhang, so
>> unless it's windy I won't get wet or need rain gear. It also has its
>> own lights and I have lights installed that point at the grill because
>> of a previous one that didn't have its own lights. In cold weather I
>> don't hang around outside, I go out, turn the steak or chops or
>> whatever and then step back inside. Don't even need a coat for the
>> amount of time I spend out there when it's cold.
>>
>> But, again, not trying to convince you to do anything you don't want
>> or like to do.
>>
>> Bill Ranck
>> Blacksburg, VA
>>

> No problem. I didn't mean to turn it into an argument. There's no
> overhang, no cover. I simply choose not to grill when it's pouring down
> rain.
>
> Jill



Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

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On 8/30/2015 6:45 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> What I'm cooking tonight . I don't know the variety but it's very
> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
> the heck you want to call it.
>
> Jill



Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

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On 8/30/2015 6:49 AM, ImStillMags wrote:

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> outside.....
>


Mmmm hmmm...

Ayup...

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On 8/30/2015 12:38 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:
> Definitely inside.


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Ayup...

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