What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.

It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
twice today.

The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
the heck you want to call it.

Jill

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 1:45:22 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
> What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
> equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>
> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
> twice today.
>
> The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
> the heck you want to call it.
>
> Jill

outside.....

On 8/29/2015 4:49 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 1:45:22 PM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>> What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
>> equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>>
>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>> twice today.
>>
>> The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
>> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
>> the heck you want to call it.
>>
>> Jill
>
> outside.....
>
I'll vote for that. I think the rain has gone for the day. Time to
fire up the grill.

Jill

On 29/08/2015 2:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
> equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>
> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
> twice today.
>
> The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
> the heck you want to call it.
>
> Jill
There's so much smoke here from WA fires that it's better to stay indoors.
Graham

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:45:15 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
>equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>
>It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
>use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>twice today.
>
>The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
>tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
>the heck you want to call it.
>

I vote for outside.

On 8/29/2015 3:56 PM, graham wrote:
> There's so much smoke here from WA fires that it's better to stay indoors.
> Graham

Um, you blaming your smoke on US too?

Wow.

http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/?extent=canada

Is there ANYTHING you hosers won't blame on America?

On 8/29/2015 3:59 PM, Je�us wrote:
> I vote for outside.


You don't get a vote, sheep shagger.

On 8/29/2015 5:56 PM, graham wrote:
> On 29/08/2015 2:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
>> equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>>
>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>> twice today.
>>
>> The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
>> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
>> the heck you want to call it.
>>
>> Jill
> There's so much smoke here from WA fires that it's better to stay indoors.
> Graham

Sorry for the fires! Wish I could send you some of the rain.

Jill

On 8/29/2015 4:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/29/2015 5:56 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 29/08/2015 2:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
>>> equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>>>
>>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
>>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>>> twice today.
>>>
>>> The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
>>> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
>>> the heck you want to call it.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> There's so much smoke here from WA fires that it's better to stay
>> indoors.
>> Graham
>
> Sorry for the fires!

You IDIOT!

They're IN Canaduh:


http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/?extent=canada

> Wish I could send you some of the rain.
>
> Jill

Trust me, when it comes to precip Canaduh doesn't need any of ours.

Damn you're dumb.

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:45:22 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:

> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. \'

Braggart! It's 80F here today and that's *hot*!

> I'd prefer to
> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
> twice today.

Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, VA

Definitely outside.

On 8/29/2015 9:21 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:45:22 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. \'
>
> Braggart! It's 80F here today and that's *hot*!
>
>> I'd prefer to
>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>> twice today.
>
> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, VA
>
Yeah, so? Just proves I'm not a cavewoman. I'm not going to don a
slicker and pretend to have fun cooking in the rain or sleet or wind or
snow. If the weather is nice, I'll cook outside. If the electricity
goes out, I'll cook outside. Otherwise, there's a reason I have an
indoor kitchen.

Jill

On 8/29/2015 8:54 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> there's a reason I have an indoor kitchen.


Home health aides?

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:45:22 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. \'
>
> Braggart! It's 80F here today and that's *hot*!
>
> > I'd prefer to
> > use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
> > twice today.
>
> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>

Her bbq is charcoal fired and it's not under a roof or awning.

--
Elitist Snob

On 8/30/2015 1:49 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:45:22 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. \'
>>
>> Braggart! It's 80F here today and that's *hot*!
>>
>>> I'd prefer to
>>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>>> twice today.
>>
>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>
>
> Her bbq is charcoal fired and it's not under a roof or awning.
>
Yep. It's pouring down rain again as I type.

I truly don't understand the die-hard griller mentality. For me it's an
alternative cooking method. I do enjoy grilled food and like cooking on
my grill. I've posted pics, most recently of salmon fillets and summer
squash.

I don't have an all consuming desire to cook outside. When it's 95°F,
standing over a hot grill is the last thing I want to do. (And yes, 80°
was a welcome respite!) I also don't see the point of cooking outdoors
when it's snowing. Did the power go out? No? Then why are you outside
freezing your ass off?!

Jill

On 8/30/2015 3:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:45:15 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
>> equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>>
>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>> twice today.
>>
>> The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
>> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
>> the heck you want to call it.
>
> You should disregard all the advice here and just cook that while
> naked.
>
> It's just corn and beef, possible chance of showers, golfers are gone
> for the afternoon. Fire up the grill and don't worry about how you
> cook it, but HOW you cook and eat it.
>
> You've cooked corn and beef before <yawn> but you've probably never
> cooked it naked. Turn off the inside lights and rely on the
> moonlight.
>
> -sw
>
'Twas a brae bricht min licht nicht a nicht! But no, I didn't cook it
outdoors and I wasn't naked.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> But no, I didn't cook it
> outdoors and I wasn't naked.

If you had, that would have been an epic time to send pics. heheh.
;-D

I'm not allowed to grill anymore thanks to the state of
Virginia....jackasses. So I always pan-fry steaks now. Not a bad
thing though. You spice them to your taste, sear them on very hot both
sides, then turn down the heat to finish.

I do miss that grilled, charred chicken though. Can't replicate that
inside.

Good thing about cooking steak in a pan is the leftover fat, etc. Once
your steak is finished, and while it rests for a few minutes, deglaze
the pan with a little water and add a little butter. (you can also use
a good merlot rather than water).

Stir it all up and while you are reducing it to a syrup constancy, add
onions and mushrooms to put on top of the steak.

In your case with the sweet white corn, I would have cut it off the
cob then cooked that in the reducing steak sauce. Or if left on the
cob, you could have rolled them in that while it's reducing.

Just my thoughts but that deglazed stuff is good eats to make and put
on the steak, the corn or any vegetable, or baked potato.

ok, that all I have to say

On 2015-08-29 9:21 PM, wrote:

>> I'd prefer to use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's
>> already rained twice today.
>
> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any
> weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>
I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in the
winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 7:47:14 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/30/2015 1:49 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:45:22 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. \'
> >>
> >> Braggart! It's 80F here today and that's *hot*!
> >>
> >>> I'd prefer to
> >>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
> >>> twice today.
> >>
> >> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
> >>
> >
> > Her bbq is charcoal fired and it's not under a roof or awning.
> >
> Yep. It's pouring down rain again as I type.
>
> I truly don't understand the die-hard griller mentality. For me it's an
> alternative cooking method. I do enjoy grilled food and like cooking on
> my grill. I've posted pics, most recently of salmon fillets and summer
> squash.
>
> I don't have an all consuming desire to cook outside. When it's 95°F,
> standing over a hot grill is the last thing I want to do. (And yes, 80°
> was a welcome respite!) I also don't see the point of cooking outdoors
> when it's snowing. Did the power go out? No? Then why are you outside
> freezing your ass off?!

Because grilled food is tasty. It's my favorite cooking method.
Plus, it doesn't stink up the house. I've got a vented hood over
the stove, but any time I sear the smell still gets all the way
down the hall to the bedrooms.

I've got a natural gas grill with a cover over it. I'm out there
in almost all weathers. I don't need to stand over the grill every
minute, because I know how it behaves for each type of food that I grill.
There's even a couple of spotlights that point right at the grates,
for when we go off Daylight Savings Time.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > But no, I didn't cook it
> > outdoors and I wasn't naked.
>
> If you had, that would have been an epic time to send pics. heheh.
> ;-D
>
> I'm not allowed to grill anymore thanks to the state of
> Virginia....jackasses.

Huh? Problem with neighbors? HOA issues or something like that?

I hate HOAs BTW as we have some really *TERRIBLE* ones in VB. You hear
about them in the VB Cafe from time to time. One of the things I did
when we were still looking for a house to buy, was tell the realtor
'don't bother to show us any houses in an HOA'. For the rest, we have
ones so crazy that they won't allow you to even have a cat and ferrets
can be problematic with some of them too. There's one south of me that
won't allow a fence over 4ft tall and has to be metal chain link so
people can see through it. There's another one along Princess Anne
where you are required to have a 6ft-8ft wood fence with tight planks
and if you have a second story, *aren't allowed to open any curtins or
windows* that can see into another's back yard.

We had a control freak on my block for a while who kept running around
with petitions to setup an HOA here (with her as president of course).
She used to turn folks in for 'violations' with as many as 10 a week
until apparently the city did something to prevent her from any more
frivolous complaints. My rental agent was driven batty by her and had
to go to the city hall to explain the owner was on a ship out of Sasebo
Japan and could not even get a letter to fix something in 10 days like
the demands were set for. Thankfully she moved out when she didnt get
her way. Crazy lady even wanted to control what plants you could have
in your front yard 'because some attract bees and someone could be
stung'. She wanted my apple trees removed...



> So I always pan-fry steaks now. Not a bad
> thing though. You spice them to your taste, sear them on very hot both
> sides, then turn down the heat to finish.
>
> I do miss that grilled, charred chicken though. Can't replicate that
> inside.
>
> Good thing about cooking steak in a pan is the leftover fat, etc. Once
> your steak is finished, and while it rests for a few minutes, deglaze
> the pan with a little water and add a little butter. (you can also use
> a good merlot rather than water).
>
> Stir it all up and while you are reducing it to a syrup constancy, add
> onions and mushrooms to put on top of the steak.

Yum! I do things like that all the time with the juice of a pan. Hehe
guilty secret love is the leftover drippings from browning some ground
beef. As you read along today you may see the cheese sauce thread. I
posted a simple one then a more complex version. Using the white
sauce, I add that to the ground beef drippings and then build it out to
a basic Navy 'SOS' with some of the cooked beef.

I also do the same with ground sausage (same way, different seasonings
depending on if the pork was already seasoned and what with). I make
sausage here fairly often BTW and freeze it in little bags, 2 at a time.

>
> In your case with the sweet white corn, I would have cut it off the
> cob then cooked that in the reducing steak sauce. Or if left on the
> cob, you could have rolled them in that while it's reducing.
>
> Just my thoughts but that deglazed stuff is good eats to make and put
> on the steak, the corn or any vegetable, or baked potato.
>
> ok, that all I have to say

Grin, I like!
Carol

--

On 8/30/2015 9:59 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 7:47:14 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/30/2015 1:49 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:45:22 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. \'
>>>>
>>>> Braggart! It's 80F here today and that's *hot*!
>>>>
>>>>> I'd prefer to
>>>>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>>>>> twice today.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Her bbq is charcoal fired and it's not under a roof or awning.
>>>
>> Yep. It's pouring down rain again as I type.
>>
>> I truly don't understand the die-hard griller mentality. For me it's an
>> alternative cooking method. I do enjoy grilled food and like cooking on
>> my grill. I've posted pics, most recently of salmon fillets and summer
>> squash.
>>
>> I don't have an all consuming desire to cook outside. When it's 95°F,
>> standing over a hot grill is the last thing I want to do. (And yes, 80°
>> was a welcome respite!) I also don't see the point of cooking outdoors
>> when it's snowing. Did the power go out? No? Then why are you outside
>> freezing your ass off?!
>
> Because grilled food is tasty. It's my favorite cooking method.
> Plus, it doesn't stink up the house. I've got a vented hood over
> the stove, but any time I sear the smell still gets all the way
> down the hall to the bedrooms.
>
> I've got a natural gas grill with a cover over it. I'm out there
> in almost all weathers. I don't need to stand over the grill every
> minute, because I know how it behaves for each type of food that I grill.
> There's even a couple of spotlights that point right at the grates,
> for when we go off Daylight Savings Time.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I'm thrilled for you! Honestly, pan frying or broiling a steak and
cooking corn on the cob indoors doesn't stink up my house.

I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.

Jill
Jill

On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:04:39 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:

> I'm thrilled for you! Honestly, pan frying or broiling a steak and
> cooking corn on the cob indoors doesn't stink up my house.

I think my house has a curse on it when it comes to airflow. Every
room has a vent and a return, yet smells migrate toward the bedroom.
Perhaps some sort of hungry ghost lives in the bedroom and sucks the
vapors in that direction.

> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.

Ok. Fine with me.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/30/2015 8:13 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> But no, I didn't cook it
>> outdoors and I wasn't naked.
>
> If you had, that would have been an epic time to send pics. heheh.
> ;-D
>
LOL the golfers never really go away. The silly people are out there
even in the rain. Oh well, they pay for it.

> I'm not allowed to grill anymore thanks to the state of
> Virginia....jackasses. So I always pan-fry steaks now. Not a bad
> thing though. You spice them to your taste, sear them on very hot both
> sides, then turn down the heat to finish.
>
Yep, that's pretty much what I do.

> I do miss that grilled, charred chicken though. Can't replicate that
> inside.
>
I dunno. I don't eat a lot of chicken.

> Good thing about cooking steak in a pan is the leftover fat, etc. Once
> your steak is finished, and while it rests for a few minutes, deglaze
> the pan with a little water and add a little butter. (you can also use
> a good merlot rather than water).
>
> Stir it all up and while you are reducing it to a syrup constancy, add
> onions and mushrooms to put on top of the steak.
>
BTDT. I didn't want a steak with gravy. Just an almost med-rare steak.
Simply seasoned with S&P. One steak nets me two meals so I tend to
undercook it. It's easy enough to heat it up the next day in the cast
iron skillet, maybe with some eggs for breakfast.

I don't really like mushrooms but I have made mushroom gravy (maybe even
with merlot) for beef steak and roasts in the past. I could have
sauteed some onion after cooking the steak but again, I didn't want to
top the steak with anything.

> In your case with the sweet white corn, I would have cut it off the
> cob then cooked that in the reducing steak sauce. Or if left on the
> cob, you could have rolled them in that while it's reducing.
>
Okey doke. There's a reason I buy corn ON the cob, and it's not because
I want to cut it off. Butter, salt & pepper. Chomp!

Grilled corn is very tasty, though. When grill it I do it in the husk
(after soaking in water).

Try laying some strips of fresh herbs inside the husk sometime.
Oregano, thyme, basil. Brush it with melted butter or oil and wrap the
husks back around it and go from there. Tasty stuff.

Jill

On 8/30/2015 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.

Of course it is. You might argue it's not BBQ, but it is
grilling.

nancy

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:28:50 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:45:15 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
>> equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>>
>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>> twice today.
>>
>> The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
>> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
>> the heck you want to call it.
>
>You should disregard all the advice here and just cook that while
>naked.
>
>It's just corn and beef, possible chance of showers, golfers are gone
>for the afternoon. Fire up the grill and don't worry about how you
>cook it, but HOW you cook and eat it.

You obviously don't golf... most will continue playing in rain so long
as there's no thunder/lightening... they all carry rain gear in their
golf bag.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?...qid=1440948084
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...rainwear+women
Golfers typically carry an umbrella too. Golfing wardrobes can be
pricey, you need to be properly attired to be on the course.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:22:11 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> On 8/30/2015 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.
>
> Of course it is. You might argue it's not BBQ, but it is
> grilling.
>

She's not the only one who doesn't want keep that semantic silliness
straight.


--
Elitist Snob

On 2015-08-30 15:22:11 +0000, Nancy Young said:

> On 8/30/2015 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.
>
> Of course it is. You might argue it's not BBQ, but it is
> grilling.

Curious to think one could buy a gas BBQ which by definition can't
produce BBQ, or a gas grill that by definition can't grill. Some people
do believe that up is down, and that black is white, and I'm sure it
serves a purpose.

On 2015-08-30 13:14:09 +0000, Dave Smith said:

> On 2015-08-29 9:21 PM, wrote:
>
>>> I'd prefer to use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's
>>> already rained twice today.
>>
>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any
>> weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>
> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in the
> winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

A possible solution:

http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e

On 8/30/2015 11:55 AM, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-08-30 15:22:11 +0000, Nancy Young said:
>
>> On 8/30/2015 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.
>>
>> Of course it is. You might argue it's not BBQ, but it is
>> grilling.
>
> Curious to think one could buy a gas BBQ which by definition can't
> produce BBQ,

I'm not sure what device that is. A gas smoker?

>or a gas grill that by definition can't grill.

Cooking over a flame is grilling. I genuinely don't care if
people like charcoal briquettes over gas, if I wanted to I'd
save some money and get a charcoal grill. It's not something
I care about, certainly don't want to fuss with waiting for
coals.

To each his own.

nancy

On 8/30/2015 11:57 AM, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-08-30 13:14:09 +0000, Dave Smith said:
>
>> On 2015-08-29 9:21 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>> I'd prefer to use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's
>>>> already rained twice today.
>>>
>>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any
>>> weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>>
>> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in
>> the winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.
>
> A possible solution:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/or4ax2e
>
Or, you could just cook when it's not dark outside. Or cook inside the
house.

Jill

On 8/30/2015 11:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> You obviously don't golf... most will continue playing in rain so long
> as there's no thunder/lightening... they all carry rain gear in their
> golf bag.
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?...qid=1440948084
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...rainwear+women
> Golfers typically carry an umbrella too. Golfing wardrobes can be
> pricey, you need to be properly attired to be on the course.
>
The golfers around here don't clear off the course unless they sound the
siren. They're idiots. They stand out there holding metal clubs
whacking their silly balls around. HINT: if you hear thunder there is
bound to be lightning. What a great time to hang onto a metal club!

No one around here wears golf clothes like the ones in those links.
It's too darn hot for clothing that heavy. Most of the men don't even
wear slacks except in the winter. Shorts, Izod-type shirts. Thank god
they've mostly given up on plaid although there are a few die-hards.

The women sometimes wear skorts but mostly shorts and tank tops. People
do carry golf umbrellas.

I had a fun time a few years ago when they had a college tournament. It
was very windy and I was watching (the 11th green is right behind my
house). One guy's umbrella blew off the green. He went running after
it, cussing a blue streak. I cracked up. Dude, you probably should
have unfurled the umbrella before trying to make that putt.

Meanwhile, I'm still not cooking outdoors in the rain.

Jill

On 8/30/2015 1:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You should disregard all the advice here and just cook that while
> naked.


You should be dismembered and put in the smoker.

On 2015-08-30 10:01 AM, cshenk wrote:

>
> Huh? Problem with neighbors? HOA issues or something like that?
>
> I hate HOAs BTW as we have some really *TERRIBLE* ones in VB. You hear
> about them in the VB Cafe from time to time. One of the things I did
> when we were still looking for a house to buy, was tell the realtor
> 'don't bother to show us any houses in an HOA'.


It's bad enough with our leash free dog park. There is a small group of
people who think that they run it. They somehow have the ear of the
mayor and regional council member and keep coming up with stupid ideas.

When I first started going there I was on the FB group and heard all the
whining. One guy was ranting about all the dog shit people were not
picking up. I was actually impressed at how little there was. Then the
campaigned for time slots exclusively for special needs dogs, like old,
lame, deaf or blind dogs or dogs who cannot socialize. Most of the
users rejected that because we figured if the dogs can not interact in
a park that is set up for dogs to play and interact they really don't
need to be going to a dog park. Besides, the park sits empty most of
the day and is only busy at certain times. They can take their old
cranky dogs then. I also doubted that anyone would actually use it, at
least not enough to justify denying it to everyone else.


The idea sort of died but then someone pushed for it again because
their old miserable dog had died and the owner thought that he would
have liked it. They decided Sunday mornings from 10-11 would be a good
time for old dogs. Fine.... I told them my dog is old. Then the
modified it to old quiet dogs. He is not quiet. Nuts to that. I make
it a point to go every Sunday morning that I am free. I have been 6 of
the 8 Sundays since they imposed this unenforced rule.... counting on
respect and cooperation. Just as I expected, no one (else) has been
bringing old dogs for their special hour.

It was pretty wet there in the spring thaw and someone thought they
should close the park for the month of April. I rejected that idea.
Some of us didn't mind dirty dogs and had high energy dogs who needed to
run off their excess energy. We knew the town would not do anything to
improve it so no point in closing. One of the most outspoken of this
group of teaparty tyrants was wintering in Florida. What difference
could it make to her if the ground was wet? Then she came back early
and posted a message in the second week of April, the month that she had
pushed for the park to be closed, asking if it was dry enough to bring
her dog.

And that is just a dog park. I hate to imagine what a HOA or condo
committee could do to hassle normal people with silly rules.

On 8/30/2015 5:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/30/2015 3:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:45:15 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> What I'm cooking tonight can be grilled outside or cooked indoors. Both
>>> equally delicious. NY strip steak and corn on the cob.
>>>
>>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. I'd prefer to
>>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>>> twice today.
>>>
>>> The corn is white sweet corn. I don't know the variety but it's very
>>> tasty. I buy it at the local farm stand/vegetable stand... or whatever
>>> the heck you want to call it.
>>
>> You should disregard all the advice here and just cook that while
>> naked.
>>
>> It's just corn and beef, possible chance of showers, golfers are gone
>> for the afternoon. Fire up the grill and don't worry about how you
>> cook it, but HOW you cook and eat it.
>>
>> You've cooked corn and beef before <yawn> but you've probably never
>> cooked it naked. Turn off the inside lights and rely on the
>> moonlight.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> 'Twas a brae bricht min licht nicht a nicht! But no, I didn't cook it
> outdoors and I wasn't naked.
>
> Jill

Do you really want the attention of that woman-stalker on you?

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On 8/30/2015 7:14 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-29 9:21 PM, wrote:
>
>>> I'd prefer to use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's
>>> already rained twice today.
>>
>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any
>> weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>
> I do not like grilling in the cold. Besides, the sun sets early in the
> winter and I prefer to be able to see what I am doing.

The "winter"?

That would be September through April, up in Canucklehead land.

LOl.

On 8/30/2015 7:59 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 7:47:14 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/30/2015 1:49 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:45:22 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's unusually cool here today, only 80°F at the moment. \'
>>>>
>>>> Braggart! It's 80F here today and that's *hot*!
>>>>
>>>>> I'd prefer to
>>>>> use the grill but the clouds keep sneaking up. It's already rained
>>>>> twice today.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so? I cook on the grill in rain or snow or pretty much any weather short of high wind storms or thunderstorms.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Her bbq is charcoal fired and it's not under a roof or awning.
>>>
>> Yep. It's pouring down rain again as I type.
>>
>> I truly don't understand the die-hard griller mentality. For me it's an
>> alternative cooking method. I do enjoy grilled food and like cooking on
>> my grill. I've posted pics, most recently of salmon fillets and summer
>> squash.
>>
>> I don't have an all consuming desire to cook outside. When it's 95°F,
>> standing over a hot grill is the last thing I want to do. (And yes, 80°
>> was a welcome respite!) I also don't see the point of cooking outdoors
>> when it's snowing. Did the power go out? No? Then why are you outside
>> freezing your ass off?!
>
> Because grilled food is tasty. It's my favorite cooking method.
> Plus, it doesn't stink up the house. I've got a vented hood over
> the stove, but any time I sear the smell still gets all the way
> down the hall to the bedrooms.
>
> I've got a natural gas grill with a cover over it. I'm out there
> in almost all weathers. I don't need to stand over the grill every
> minute, because I know how it behaves for each type of food that I grill.
> There's even a couple of spotlights that point right at the grates,
> for when we go off Daylight Savings Time.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
+1

On 8/30/2015 8:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.


Then you truly are a MORON.

On 8/30/2015 12:03 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/30/2015 11:55 AM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2015-08-30 15:22:11 +0000, Nancy Young said:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2015 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.
>>>
>>> Of course it is. You might argue it's not BBQ, but it is
>>> grilling.
>>
>> Curious to think one could buy a gas BBQ which by definition can't
>> produce BBQ,
>
> I'm not sure what device that is. A gas smoker?
>
> >or a gas grill that by definition can't grill.
>
> Cooking over a flame is grilling. I genuinely don't care if
> people like charcoal briquettes over gas, if I wanted to I'd
> save some money and get a charcoal grill. It's not something
> I care about, certainly don't want to fuss with waiting for
> coals.
>
> To each his own.
>
> nancy

I consider cooking on a gas grill cooking outside. In order for food to
be called grilled it needs to be cooked over an open flame. Do I really
care? No. I do know I'm not going to stand outside in the rain to cook.

Jill

On 8/30/2015 8:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:04:39 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I'm thrilled for you! Honestly, pan frying or broiling a steak and
>> cooking corn on the cob indoors doesn't stink up my house.
>
> I think my house has a curse on it when it comes to airflow. Every
> room has a vent and a return, yet smells migrate toward the bedroom.
> Perhaps some sort of hungry ghost lives in the bedroom and sucks the
> vapors in that direction.

I suspect you have either a poorly sealed window or some type of attic
insulation issue.

Odors travel with air flow, and you are describing a low pressure leak
in that room.

>> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.
>
> Ok. Fine with me.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

But odd at best.

On 2015-08-30 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>>
> I'm thrilled for you! Honestly, pan frying or broiling a steak and
> cooking corn on the cob indoors doesn't stink up my house.

The range hood fan on high and a window opened our kitchen can get
pretty smokey grilling or broiling.

> I also don't consider cooking on a gas BBQ "grilling". Heh.

That's curious because some purists don't think that grilling on a gas
BBQ is BBQing. Grilling is described as a form of cooking, usually meat,
using heat from directly above or below, and it can be done on a solid
surface like a flat top, grille or frying pan, or in a grate.