Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
refrigerated food. Thankfully I had little in the way of meat. And most of
my condiments were close to being used up. Yes, I know that they would
probably have been okay but since I was having to toss so much else out, I
got rid of the ones that were nearly used up. Thankfully I had extras for
most of those things in my stockpile. Only had to get more mayo. I don't
keep extra of that as we use very little of it.

We were supposed to take my mom to lunch yesterday but never made it far
from the house. Winds reached 65 MPH here and there were downed trees
everywhere. 4 trees landed on a car in the area where we might have headed
for lunch. Thankfully that person survived but 2 were killed in this storm.
Still didn't get much in the way of rain here. And because of the drought,
trees are falling more easily.

I still have to check my car. It was making a weird noise but I did find a
branch wrapped around one tire. Power was out here for 12 hours but some
people that we know are still waiting for theirs to come back on. They said
over 175,000 were without power. I do have thermometers in both the fridge
and freezer and the temp did drop to 10 degrees below what it should be to
keep the food safe. I had just stocked up on soft margarine. I did keep
that. Seems fine. Also kept some of the frozen pops. I am sure they would
be safe but the texture might be off.

Now the problem is where to get fresh food! So many of the stores also lost
their power. I did place an order with Amazon Fresh. I am pretty sure that
stuff is safe. I also did not want to venture out again today as they
haven't fully cleared all of the streets and we did have high winds again
earlier. Will wait until later in the week to venture out and restock.
Need to get to Costco, especially as I used up most of our batteries.
*sigh* Always something.

Also... If you do order from Amazon Fresh, double check your quantities
before placing your order. I recently got three packages of sub rolls when
I had only wanted one. I let that slide. Thought maybe I had made a
mistake. But today I got double the amount of carrots and butter. They
refunded me and said I could donate the extra. But I also got some packages
of carrots, grapes, pretzels and cheese that I did not order. I suspect
somebody is missing them from their order. I also suspect that they had far
more orders than usual today.

On 8/30/2015 7:18 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen
> and refrigerated food. Thankfully I had little in the way of meat. And
> most of my condiments were close to being used up. Yes, I know that
> they would probably have been okay but since I was having to toss so
> much else out, I got rid of the ones that were nearly used up.
> Thankfully I had extras for most of those things in my stockpile. Only
> had to get more mayo. I don't keep extra of that as we use very little
> of it.
>
> We were supposed to take my mom to lunch yesterday but never made it far
> from the house. Winds reached 65 MPH here and there were downed trees
> everywhere. 4 trees landed on a car in the area where we might have
> headed for lunch. Thankfully that person survived but 2 were killed in
> this storm. Still didn't get much in the way of rain here. And because
> of the drought, trees are falling more easily.
>
> I still have to check my car. It was making a weird noise but I did
> find a branch wrapped around one tire. Power was out here for 12 hours
> but some people that we know are still waiting for theirs to come back
> on. They said over 175,000 were without power. I do have thermometers
> in both the fridge and freezer and the temp did drop to 10 degrees below
> what it should be to keep the food safe. I had just stocked up on soft
> margarine. I did keep that. Seems fine. Also kept some of the frozen
> pops. I am sure they would be safe but the texture might be off.
>
> Now the problem is where to get fresh food! So many of the stores also
> lost their power. I did place an order with Amazon Fresh. I am pretty
> sure that stuff is safe. I also did not want to venture out again today
> as they haven't fully cleared all of the streets and we did have high
> winds again earlier. Will wait until later in the week to venture out
> and restock. Need to get to Costco, especially as I used up most of our
> batteries. *sigh* Always something.
>
> Also... If you do order from Amazon Fresh, double check your quantities
> before placing your order. I recently got three packages of sub rolls
> when I had only wanted one. I let that slide. Thought maybe I had made
> a mistake. But today I got double the amount of carrots and butter.
> They refunded me and said I could donate the extra. But I also got some
> packages of carrots, grapes, pretzels and cheese that I did not order.
> I suspect somebody is missing them from their order. I also suspect
> that they had far more orders than usual today.


Wishing you all the best under trying circumstances.

Who knew the weather would pitch THAT at you after a long hot spell!

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
> refrigerated food. Thankfully I had little in the way of meat. And most of
> my condiments were close to being used up. Yes, I know that they would
> probably have been okay but since I was having to toss so much else out, I
> got rid of the ones that were nearly used up. Thankfully I had extras for
> most of those things in my stockpile. Only had to get more mayo. I don't
> keep extra of that as we use very little of it.
>
> We were supposed to take my mom to lunch yesterday but never made it far
> from the house. Winds reached 65 MPH here and there were downed trees
> everywhere. 4 trees landed on a car in the area where we might have headed
> for lunch. Thankfully that person survived but 2 were killed in this storm.
> Still didn't get much in the way of rain here. And because of the drought,
> trees are falling more easily.
>
> I still have to check my car. It was making a weird noise but I did find a
> branch wrapped around one tire. Power was out here for 12 hours but some
> people that we know are still waiting for theirs to come back on. They said
> over 175,000 were without power. I do have thermometers in both the fridge
> and freezer and the temp did drop to 10 degrees below what it should be to
> keep the food safe. I had just stocked up on soft margarine. I did keep
> that. Seems fine. Also kept some of the frozen pops. I am sure they would
> be safe but the texture might be off.
>
> Now the problem is where to get fresh food! So many of the stores also lost
> their power. I did place an order with Amazon Fresh. I am pretty sure that
> stuff is safe. I also did not want to venture out again today as they
> haven't fully cleared all of the streets and we did have high winds again
> earlier. Will wait until later in the week to venture out and restock.
> Need to get to Costco, especially as I used up most of our batteries.
> *sigh* Always something.
>
> Also... If you do order from Amazon Fresh, double check your quantities
> before placing your order. I recently got three packages of sub rolls when
> I had only wanted one. I let that slide. Thought maybe I had made a
> mistake. But today I got double the amount of carrots and butter. They
> refunded me and said I could donate the extra. But I also got some packages
> of carrots, grapes, pretzels and cheese that I did not order. I suspect
> somebody is missing them from their order. I also suspect that they had far
> more orders than usual today.

no obvious source of replacement food, food still good even with the
slightly lower temp and you threw food away. It's amazing that people
like you can survive any natural disaster

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
>refrigerated food.

As you do, of course.

On 8/30/2015 10:24 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
>> refrigerated food.
>
> As you do, of course.
>

I'd pay good money to see sharp skewer fed through your dog heart.

In article >, says...
>
> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
> refrigerated food. <..>Power was out here for 12 hours <..>. I do
have thermometers in both the fridge
> and freezer and the temp did drop to 10 degrees below what it should be to
> keep the food safe.


You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
and PERFECTLY SAFE.


Janet UK

On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:

>
> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>
>

Be prepared for an argument.

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>>
>> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen
>> and
>> refrigerated food. <..>Power was out here for 12 hours <..>. I do
> have thermometers in both the fridge
>> and freezer and the temp did drop to 10 degrees below what it should be
>> to
>> keep the food safe.
>
>
> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
> and PERFECTLY SAFE.

Typo. I meant above.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>
>>
>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>
>>
>
> Be prepared for an argument.

It was a typo.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
>refrigerated food.
snip
For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer. Of
course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
Janet US

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:30:13 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
>>refrigerated food.
>snip
>For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
>mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer. Of
>course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
>hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
>everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
>fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
>know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
>submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
>in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
>Janet US

You had a fire IN your fridge? How does that happen?

John Kuthe...

In article >, says...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen
> >> and
> >> refrigerated food. <..>Power was out here for 12 hours <..>. I do
> > have thermometers in both the fridge
> >> and freezer and the temp did drop to 10 degrees below what it should be
> >> to
> >> keep the food safe.
> >
> >
> > You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
> > safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
> > and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>
> Typo. I meant above.

How could the temperature DROP to " 10 degrees above" ?

Janet UK

On 8/31/2015 10:30 AM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
>> refrigerated food.
> snip
> For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
> mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer.

LOL yeah, or you might have to eat it.

> Of course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
> hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
> everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
> fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
> know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
> submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
> in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
> Janet US
>
You had a fire in your refrigerator?

12 hours, 24 hours. It's just an excuse for her to "toss" food and
order more online. I don't know anyone who orders food online. Sorry
but that just sounds weird to me.

Jill

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:50:05 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/31/2015 10:30 AM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"

snip I
>> know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
>> submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
>> in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
>> Janet US
>>
>You had a fire in your refrigerator?
>
snip
>Jill

Yeah, in the freezer compartment. Something to do with the auto
defrost. There was black soot on everything and everything smelled
smoky. It happened when we were at work. It put itself out. Even
though there had been a fire and there was no power to the fridge,
nothing had thawed. I did have to toss everything because of the soot
and smell and having no working fridge to move stuff into.
Apparently a fire in the fridge is not that uncommon. The insurance
company didn't want to see my list. They just told me I could buy new
or repair. Check was in the mail for the food. So, very quick
response
Janet US

On 8/31/2015 11:09 AM, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:50:05 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2015 10:30 AM, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> snip I
>>> know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
>>> submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
>>> in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> You had a fire in your refrigerator?
>>
> snip
>> Jill
>
> Yeah, in the freezer compartment. Something to do with the auto
> defrost. There was black soot on everything and everything smelled
> smoky. It happened when we were at work. It put itself out. Even
> though there had been a fire and there was no power to the fridge,
> nothing had thawed. I did have to toss everything because of the soot
> and smell and having no working fridge to move stuff into.
> Apparently a fire in the fridge is not that uncommon. The insurance
> company didn't want to see my list. They just told me I could buy new
> or repair. Check was in the mail for the food. So, very quick
> response
> Janet US
>
Sounds like you have a good insurance company.

Jill

On 31/08/2015 8:30 AM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
>> refrigerated food.
> snip
> For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
> mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer. Of
> course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
> hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
> everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
> fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
> know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
> submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
> in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
> Janet US
>
My friends north of Vancouver were without power for a day and a half
and had no problems with their frozen food.
They were very pleased with the fact that they had chosen a gas cooktop
for their kitchen.
Graham

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:30:13 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
>>refrigerated food.
>snip
>For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
>mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer. Of
>course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
>hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
>everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
>fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
>know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
>submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
>in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.

I always keep a ziploc bag of ice cubes in my freezer to check if the
power goes out. If they are still separate cubes, everything is fine.
If they have melted into a puddle that means the freezer got too warm,
and the contents will have to be taken out. I wouldn't automatically
toss anything, though. You can cook and re-freeze a lot of meats.

The ice cube method is also a good way to know if your power has gone
out then come back on again if you are away somewhere. My daughter
does this at her cottage.

Doris

On 8/31/2015 9:48 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Don't forget the Drama Factor.


**** YOU TO HELL WOMAN STALKER!!!!!!!!

>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Be prepared for an argument.
>
> It was a typo.

Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do without
you to harangue. LOL

Cheri

On 8/31/2015 7:28 AM, Janet wrote:
> You numpty.


You bully biotch!

On 8/31/2015 8:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Be prepared for an argument.
>
> It was a typo.


The bullies will flame you anyway.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Be prepared for an argument.
>>
>> It was a typo.
>
> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do without
> you to harangue. LOL

Do you realise she has the Bitching Crew dancing to her tune? She can post
anything at all, and they all start dancing lololol

Such power <g>


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 8/31/2015 8:50 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> It's just an excuse for her to "toss" food and order more online.


Give up, bully biotch!

On 2015-08-31 10:42 AM, Janet wrote:

>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>
>> Typo. I meant above.
>
> How could the temperature DROP to " 10 degrees above" ?


If she weren't in the filter I would be able to check the time stamps on
her compulsive posting to see where there was a gap coinciding with the
power outage that last long enough for her frozen goods to thaw.

On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
> >>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
> >>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Be prepared for an argument.
> >
> > It was a typo.
>
> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do without
> you to harangue. LOL
>
> Cheri

Yep, and I'm sure is was designed to get feedback especially
when it mentioned "tossing" food. She was anticipating the
reaction this engendered.
I had power outages of 24 hours with no loss of food stored
in my chest freezer. One must not open the lid during the
loss of power and tossing an old quilt or sleeping bag on
top will give extra insulation as well.
===

In article >, says...
>
> On 31/08/2015 8:30 AM, Janet B wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen and
> >> refrigerated food.
> > snip
> > For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
> > mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer. Of
> > course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
> > hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
> > everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
> > fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
> > know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
> > submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
> > in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
> > Janet US
> >
> My friends north of Vancouver were without power for a day and a half
> and had no problems with their frozen food.
> They were very pleased with the fact that they had chosen a gas cooktop
> for their kitchen.

In March 2013 our entire island lost its power supply from the
mainland in a freak snow/ice storm. For three days the unheated
interior temperature of the house was around 50 F, and I didn't open the
freezer *at all* until the power came back on at the end of the third
day. When it did I was amazed to find everything was still rock solid
cold and hard. We didn't lose anything from the freezer. Hats off to
modern freezer insulation.

Janet UK.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW
>> >>> the
>> >>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold
>> >>> enough
>> >>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Be prepared for an argument.
>> >
>> > It was a typo.
>>
>> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do without
>> you to harangue. LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Yep, and I'm sure is was designed to get feedback especially
> when it mentioned "tossing" food. She was anticipating the
> reaction this engendered.
> I had power outages of 24 hours with no loss of food stored
> in my chest freezer. One must not open the lid during the
> loss of power and tossing an old quilt or sleeping bag on
> top will give extra insulation as well.

She had already said that she was emptying her fridge and freezer in order
to get ready for winter. You need a reasonably full freezer to keep the
temps up even if you don't open them.




> ===

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On 8/31/2015 11:55 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Be prepared for an argument.
>>>
>>> It was a typo.
>>
>> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do
>> without you to harangue. LOL
>
> Do you realise she has the Bitching Crew dancing to her tune? She can
> post anything at all, and they all start dancing lololol
>
> Such power <g>
>
>


Too true!

On 8/31/2015 12:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-31 10:42 AM, Janet wrote:
>
>>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>>
>>> Typo. I meant above.
>>
>> How could the temperature DROP to " 10 degrees above" ?
>
>
> If she weren't in the filter I would be able to check the time stamps on
> her compulsive posting to see where there was a gap coinciding with the
> power outage that last long enough for her frozen goods to thaw.
>


DUDE.

YOU ARE TOTALLY OBSESSED WITH HER, SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP!

On 8/31/2015 12:18 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Be prepared for an argument.
>>>
>>> It was a typo.
>>
>> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do without
>> you to harangue. LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Yep, and I'm sure is was designed to get feedback especially
> when it mentioned "tossing" food. She was anticipating the
> reaction this engendered.

Her food, her problem.

Cope.

> I had power outages of 24 hours with no loss of food stored
> in my chest freezer. One must not open the lid during the
> loss of power and tossing an old quilt or sleeping bag on
> top will give extra insulation as well.
> ===
>
True.

On 2015-08-31 2:43 PM, Janet wrote:

> In March 2013 our entire island lost its power supply from the
> mainland in a freak snow/ice storm. For three days the unheated
> interior temperature of the house was around 50 F, and I didn't open the
> freezer *at all* until the power came back on at the end of the third
> day. When it did I was amazed to find everything was still rock solid
> cold and hard. We didn't lose anything from the freezer. Hats off to
> modern freezer insulation.
>

You are smarter than some people here because you know enough to leave
the freezer closed to keep allow the insulation to keep the heat out. If
you have enough frozen stuff in there it will stay cold for days. Then
there are the people keep opening the freeze to check, letting in the
heat and raising the temperature. Sure, they may recommend keeping the
freezer at 0 F for storage, but even if it goes 10-15 degrees above that
for a short time it will be okay. Frozen is frozen.

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my
>> >> frozen
>> >> and
>> >> refrigerated food. <..>Power was out here for 12 hours <..>. I do
>> > have thermometers in both the fridge
>> >> and freezer and the temp did drop to 10 degrees below what it should
>> >> be
>> >> to
>> >> keep the food safe.
>> >
>> >
>> > You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>> > safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>> > and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>
>> Typo. I meant above.
>
> How could the temperature DROP to " 10 degrees above" ?
>
> Janet UK

I just made a mistake. The temp. was 10 degrees above. I was worn out when
I typed that.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Be prepared for an argument.
>>
>> It was a typo.
>
> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do without
> you to harangue. LOL

And of course I made a mistake. I am having trouble finding any stores that
have perishables. The only one I know for sure near here is Whole Foods.
Most had to throw them all out. But I also hesitate to buy much more as we
are having high winds again. Lights when out last night but only briefly.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW the
>>>>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold enough
>>>>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Be prepared for an argument.
>>>
>>> It was a typo.
>>
>> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do without
>> you to harangue. LOL
>
> Do you realise she has the Bitching Crew dancing to her tune? She can
> post anything at all, and they all start dancing lololol
>
> Such power <g>

Well, to be fair, I did make a mistake this time but I think most people who
know what I meant. I'd had one of those days that felt like I had lived
through 5 days so the brain wasn't working well.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW
>> >>> the
>> >>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold
>> >>> enough
>> >>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Be prepared for an argument.
>> >
>> > It was a typo.
>>
>> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do without
>> you to harangue. LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Yep, and I'm sure is was designed to get feedback especially
> when it mentioned "tossing" food. She was anticipating the
> reaction this engendered.
> I had power outages of 24 hours with no loss of food stored
> in my chest freezer. One must not open the lid during the
> loss of power and tossing an old quilt or sleeping bag on
> top will give extra insulation as well.
> ===

I don't have a chest freezer and PUD did tell us that if our power was out
for over 4 hours to toss the food. I could tell by the softness of the
cheese and the sorbet that it was no longer good. I wasn't taking chances
with the other stuff.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>> >> On 2015-08-31 9:28 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You numpty. If the thermometer was showing 10 degrees BELOW
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> safety level, that means all the food was still being kept cold
>>> >>> enough
>>> >>> and PERFECTLY SAFE.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Be prepared for an argument.
>>> >
>>> > It was a typo.
>>>
>>> Good thing you started a new thread Julie, whatever would they do
>>> without
>>> you to harangue. LOL
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Yep, and I'm sure is was designed to get feedback especially
>> when it mentioned "tossing" food. She was anticipating the
>> reaction this engendered.
>> I had power outages of 24 hours with no loss of food stored
>> in my chest freezer. One must not open the lid during the
>> loss of power and tossing an old quilt or sleeping bag on
>> top will give extra insulation as well.
>
> She had already said that she was emptying her fridge and freezer in order
> to get ready for winter. You need a reasonably full freezer to keep the
> temps up even if you don't open them.

Yes. They were not full at all. I didn't have to toss out that much stuff
but I was disappointed about the pot roast as it was really good. Most of
what I did throw out was frozen pops that apparently nobody wanted. Several
times when someone had a sore throat, I got the complaint that there were no
frozen pops so I bought more. I will never believe that complaint again.
There were probably at close to 100 that I tossed. Problem is that if I buy
a box, it takes up too much room. So I had been removing them and putting
them in a cheap bread bag. These were mostly the Outshine brand. The small
ones. But there was some off brand in there too. I guess they could not
recognize them when looking right at them and could only recognize the box.

There was also meatloaf in the freezer and it had gotten so soft that it was
falling through the wires through the plastic bag.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen
>>and
>>refrigerated food.
> snip
> For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
> mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer. Of
> course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
> hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
> everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
> fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
> know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
> submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
> in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
> Janet US

Maybe you wouldn't have but my own power company told me to do that. I
didn't have $500 worth of stuff. There was the leftover pot roast, a pound
of ground beef, the leftover meatloaf, sausages, a small amount of bacon, 4
hamburger patties and some lunch meat. That was it for the meat.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/31/2015 10:30 AM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen
>>> and
>>> refrigerated food.
>> snip
>> For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
>> mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer.
>
> LOL yeah, or you might have to eat it.
>
>> Of course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
>> hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
>> everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
>> fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
>> know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
>> submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
>> in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
>> Janet US
>>
> You had a fire in your refrigerator?
>
> 12 hours, 24 hours. It's just an excuse for her to "toss" food and order
> more online. I don't know anyone who orders food online. Sorry but that
> just sounds weird to me.

I don't care what it sounds like and unless I want to shop at Whole Foods, I
really have no choice now. The stores have had to toss the perishables and
I can't shop for that stuff until they get a new shipment.

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 31/08/2015 8:30 AM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my frozen
>>> and
>>> refrigerated food.
>> snip
>> For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
>> mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer. Of
>> course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
>> hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
>> everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
>> fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
>> know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
>> submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
>> in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
>> Janet US
>>
> My friends north of Vancouver were without power for a day and a half and
> had no problems with their frozen food.
> They were very pleased with the fact that they had chosen a gas cooktop
> for their kitchen.
> Graham

Had it been winter or had I had a full freezer and fridge, things might have
been different. No to both.

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 31/08/2015 8:30 AM, Janet B wrote:
>> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:18:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Due to more wacky weather here, I have had to toss out most of my
>> >> frozen and
>> >> refrigerated food.
>> > snip
>> > For 12 hours, I wouldn't have tossed anything. Twelve hours would
>> > mean I was getting antsy about the ice cream in the freezer. Of
>> > course, we wouldn't open the fridge or freezer doors at all. At 12
>> > hours I might find a little condensation forming on stuff but
>> > everything is still solid. Cleaning and tossing the contents of my
>> > fridge/freezer combination could mean an expense of $500 or so. I
>> > know that for sure from when we had a fire in our fridge and had to
>> > submit a claim to the insurance company. I made a list of everything
>> > in the fridge/freezer and went to the store and priced everything.
>> > Janet US
>> >
>> My friends north of Vancouver were without power for a day and a half
>> and had no problems with their frozen food.
>> They were very pleased with the fact that they had chosen a gas cooktop
>> for their kitchen.
>
> In March 2013 our entire island lost its power supply from the
> mainland in a freak snow/ice storm. For three days the unheated
> interior temperature of the house was around 50 F, and I didn't open the
> freezer *at all* until the power came back on at the end of the third
> day. When it did I was amazed to find everything was still rock solid
> cold and hard. We didn't lose anything from the freezer. Hats off to
> modern freezer insulation.

Well that wasn't the case here. For part of the day it was around 80 in the
house and the fridge and freezer were not full.