wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:03:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:08:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:12:45 -0400, S Viemeister
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by
>>> mail, >>> > put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through
>>> the slot thing >>> > and the postage is a fraction. I often do it
>>> for my neighbour who >>> > sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland.
>>> Amazing how small you can >>> > make that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm. Good idea, that,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Mail is based on weight, not volume.
>>>>
>>>> Do you not have a slot they put your envelope though at your post
>>>> office? The thickness defines the cost.
>>>
>>> Forget it Ophelia, if it's not what is done in the USA then it doesn't
>>> count to a zenophobe.
>>
>> Now now, that wasn't zenophobe, that was unfamiliar with another
>> system. It's all weight based mailing in the USA.
>
> I disagree -

Yeah?

Well sod you!

> as others know/notice to sf if it isn't American it's no
> use, not applicable, useless, not as good. That's what zenophobic
> means.

The false appeal to majority observations is REJECTED!

You Canucks are just seethingly jealous of the USA.

Still planning to burn our White House down if Trump gets in, biotch?

That kind of terrorist statement will get you arrested, even in Canuckistan.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 08:32:22 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> It was a waste of money for us. It sits in a cupboard, and I never
> >> take it out. It's a pain to use.
> >>
> >> Still, it was an answer to "What to you want for Christmas?" I
> never >> want anything, but he insists on getting me stuff anyway.
> At least >> this had some hope of being welcome, but it turned out to
> be less >> useful than I thought it might.
> >
> > Remember back in the 1950's, a husband would buy his wife a
> > christmas present, or a birthday present, or an anniversary
> > present... and he would buy her a new vaccumn cleaner or an iron.
> > hahaha Talk about the sexist society back then.
> >
> > Back when I was married (a lifetime ago), my wife and I shared the
> > household work. One weekend, her parents were visiting and about
> > noon, my father-in-law stretched his arms and announced that he was
> > hungry for lunch. Immediately, my mother-in-law jumped up and went
> > into the kitchen to make him some lunch. hahaha
> >
> > I was amazed. So a few minutes later, I did the same. I stretched my
> > arms and said that I was hungry too. My wife looked at me and said,
> > "If you want lunch, go in there with my Mom and make it yourself."
> > sigh!
> >
> > I DID say that as a joke because I just KNEW what her response would
> > be.
> >
> > G.
>
> Lol one year David thought he had a brilliant idea, he bought me an
> iron for Xmas. When I opened it, even the kids looked at him and said
> 'Daaaaddeeey' - he was really upset and remarked that he thought it
> was a good present because he noticed the cord was going on my old
> iron. Davids father was just like your FIL, if she had died first,
> don't know what he would have done.

Smile, our Xmas gifts are a combination of practial and fun. It's just
nice to have lots to open so there will be underwear, socks, favorite
canned nuts, an iron at need, plus toys (or what feels like a toy
depending on person).

I got Don a new washing machine 2 years ago and this year I think he
needs a new dryer. He also wants to have a clothesline for outside in
decent weather so I have one tucked away on Amazon that looks useful
for him. Don't worry, he also has toys (or what feels like toys which
for him is often models and model paints, plus bits to make fishing
lures out of).

Carol

--

On 9/5/2015 7:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> It was a waste of money for us. It sits in a cupboard, and I never
> take it out. It's a pain to use.

I just had to have one, the first one I got on ebay, refurbished.
I love that appliance. I don't think I'm hard to buy for, but I
got a replacement model for Christmas one year. I guess the new
one has more features.

> Still, it was an answer to "What to you want for Christmas?" I never
> want anything, but he insists on getting me stuff anyway.

I got totally sick of wasting a ton of money at Christmas, trying
to find something/anything to put under the tree. So we were both
relieved when we agreed, no more Christmas presents. Very relaxing.

> At least
> this had some hope of being welcome, but it turned out to be less
> useful than I thought it might.

Definitely not for everyone. I like buying a rib roast and
cutting it into steaks for the summer. We buy a package of
pork chops at Costco and portion it out.

I was never successful at avoiding freezer burn no matter how
airtight I wrapped meat, or double wrapped it, stored in a
bag on top of that. I love just zapping them and they stay
perfect.

nancy

On 05/09/2015 4:13 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:08:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:12:45 -0400, S Viemeister
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
>>>>> put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot thing
>>>>> and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
>>>>> sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
>>>>> make that.
>>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Good idea, that,
>>>
>>> Why? Mail is based on weight, not volume.
>>
>> Do you not have a slot they put your envelope though at your post office?
>> The thickness defines the cost.
>
> Forget it Ophelia, if it's not what is done in the USA then it doesn't
> count to a zenophobe.
>
Tut! Tut! Xenophobe:-)
Graham

On 2015-09-05 11:27, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> Holy crap... $113. I was not thrilled at the prospect of paying that
>> every month. I didn't have to replace that cartridge for 4 years. I
>> bought my current laser printer the year I retired... 11 years ago. The
>> toner costs about $85 and a couple weeks ago I had to buy the second
>> replacement cartridge. Meanwhile, lots of people are buy those cheap
>> printers that are just a gimmick to sell the ink.
>
> A lot of people waste more than half their ink with unnecessary
> printing... you can turn off the color and print everything in B & W,
> and the text one wants can be copied and pasted to a clipboard...

Maybe the ink or the technology has changed since I had a colour
printer, but I found that if I did not use the colours the ink dried up
and clogged the heads. I ended up having to replace them anyway.

graham wrote:
> On 05/09/2015 4:13 AM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:08:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:12:45 -0400, S Viemeister
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
>>>>>> put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
>>>>>> sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
>>>>>> make that.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. Good idea, that,
>>>>
>>>> Why? Mail is based on weight, not volume.
>>>
>>> Do you not have a slot they put your envelope though at your post
>>> office?
>>> The thickness defines the cost.
>>
>> Forget it Ophelia, if it's not what is done in the USA then it doesn't
>> count to a zenophobe.
>>
> Tut! Tut! Xenophobe:-)
> Graham


= fellow Canuck...

Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 9/5/2015 7:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > It was a waste of money for us. It sits in a cupboard, and I never
> > take it out. It's a pain to use.
>
> I just had to have one, the first one I got on ebay, refurbished.
> I love that appliance. I don't think I'm hard to buy for, but I
> got a replacement model for Christmas one year. I guess the new
> one has more features.
>
> > Still, it was an answer to "What to you want for Christmas?" I
> > never want anything, but he insists on getting me stuff anyway.
>
> I got totally sick of wasting a ton of money at Christmas, trying
> to find something/anything to put under the tree. So we were both
> relieved when we agreed, no more Christmas presents. Very relaxing.
>
> > At least
> > this had some hope of being welcome, but it turned out to be less
> > useful than I thought it might.
>
> Definitely not for everyone. I like buying a rib roast and
> cutting it into steaks for the summer. We buy a package of
> pork chops at Costco and portion it out.
>
> I was never successful at avoiding freezer burn no matter how
> airtight I wrapped meat, or double wrapped it, stored in a
> bag on top of that. I love just zapping them and they stay
> perfect.
>
> nancy

Smile, we love to have a full bundle under the tree but we are (as
earlier posted) very practical about it all.

Counted as part of it will normally be one appliance (this next year,
probably a new dryer since the old one is failing), Don needs a new
sweatshirt or so (something with a fish on it will appeal). Don likes
kippers so I normally wrap a few for him under the tree. To solve the
'what would you like' we went kinda higher tech with Amazon and our
wish lists. I clear down to just what I want for Xmas as does
Charlotte and we use that for some of it.

We use little wish lists and get some of it, such as we find.

Outside the basically delayed for Xmas common things (underwear, socks,
new bathrobe after the dog ate the last one and so on) or appliances
that might be gotten earlier at need but counted as 'xmas', we spend
about 50$ each total to find fun stuff for us 3.

Last year we made up 'freebie cards'. Charlotte gave Don and me 10
cards for 'taking out the trash without bitching', Don gave her 5 for
poopie scouping the yard when it's Charlotte's turn'. I gave Charlotte
and Don 10 cards for me to turn down my music if it's too loud (grin).


Anyways, agreed on the machine. We try to be responsible on the
plastics and reuse the bags when possible.

Carol

--

On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 15:25:01 -0300, wrote:

>I disagree - as others know/notice to sf if it isn't American it's no
>use, not applicable, useless, not as good. That's what zenophobic
>means.

Hmm. I though it meant an aversion to certain Buddhist practices.
Now we just need to know what 'xenophobic' means

On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 12:00:21 -0500, John Kuthe >
wrote:

>On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 10:59:03 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 9/5/2015 9:35 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 06:57:00 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 17:42:55 -0300, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:56:58 -0500, John Kuthe >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly, and no I have never used one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes a lot of trash too!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you think it makes a lot of trash? Don't get that.
>>>>
>>>> Nor do I. I suppose John could use/buy food NOT packed in such a way,
>>>> meaning that John would go through *many more* non-foodsaver bags in
>>>> order in the process of doing that <G>.
>>>
>>> The plastic disposable food storage bags they use.
>>>
>>> Get and reuse non-disposable containers, like tupperware, etc.
>>>
>>> Plus it's just one more "does one thing and one thing ONLY" device in
>>> your kitchen.
>>>
>>OK foe some things, but the container have lot of air and you can get
>>ice crystals. For long term, nothing beats a vacuum sealer. Better to
>>toss a bag than a 2 pound block of cheese.
>
>Yes, but a 2# block of cheese is 100% biodegradable, one plastic bag
>not so much!! Lasts much as it started for years!

That is completely illogical John, think about it a little more.

On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 18:33:30 -0300, wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 07:24:34 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 15:25:01 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>I disagree - as others know/notice to sf if it isn't American it's no
>>>use, not applicable, useless, not as good. That's what zenophobic
>>>means.
>>
>>Hmm. I though it meant an aversion to certain Buddhist practices.
>>Now we just need to know what 'xenophobic' means
>
>Too late Jeßus, I've already been picked on :-þ

Well, bugger.

On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 12:10:24 PM UTC-6, la voz del norte wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:08:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "sf" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:12:45 -0400, S Viemeister
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by
> >> mail, >>> > put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through
> >> the slot thing >>> > and the postage is a fraction. I often do it
> >> for my neighbour who >>> > sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland.
> >> Amazing how small you can >>> > make that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Hmm. Good idea, that,
> >>>>
> >>>> Why? Mail is based on weight, not volume.
> >>>
> >>> Do you not have a slot they put your envelope though at your post
> >>> office? The thickness defines the cost.
> >>
> >> Forget it Ophelia, if it's not what is done in the USA then it doesn't
> >> count to a zenophobe.
> >
> > Now now, that wasn't zenophobe, that was unfamiliar with another
> > system. It's all weight based mailing in the USA.
> >
>
> Canuckleheads have a majorly low national self-esteem setting.
>
> They are compelled to slam the USA, always.

NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE.
NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE.
NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE.
NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE.

=====

On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 14:47:08 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote:

>===
>NO they are not...you can't just waltz in here and dictate to all
>and sundry how we MUST behave. I've had it with your judgmental
>bullshit and so have most of the regulars on here.
>The constant static of you postings has created chaos so
>please get lost NOW.
>=====

Roy, you are without doubt, the dumbest person on this group.
You're the only one left that still directly engages with the troll in
this way. Everyone else (long ago) has figured out that doing so only
encourages the troll. Everyone except you. Well done. You're a real
asset to the group.

Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 14:47:08 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> ===
>> NO they are not...you can't just waltz in here and dictate to all
>> and sundry how we MUST behave. I've had it with your judgmental
>> bullshit and so have most of the regulars on here.
>> The constant static of you postings has created chaos so
>> please get lost NOW.
>> =====
>
> Roy, you are without doubt, the dumbest person on this group.

Nah...but he's squarely in the running.

> You're the only one left that still directly engages with the troll in
> this way.

That is also a lie.

> Everyone else (long ago) has figured out that doing so only
> encourages the troll.

Nah.

Bullying does, keep it up, pay the price.

Capisce?

> Everyone except you. Well done. You're a real
> asset to the group.

You're a rabbit-killing scumsucker.

On 9/5/2015 5:24 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>> I got totally sick of wasting a ton of money at Christmas, trying
>> to find something/anything to put under the tree. So we were both
>> relieved when we agreed, no more Christmas presents. Very relaxing.

>> I was never successful at avoiding freezer burn no matter how
>> airtight I wrapped meat, or double wrapped it, stored in a
>> bag on top of that. I love just zapping them and they stay
>> perfect.

> Smile, we love to have a full bundle under the tree but we are (as
> earlier posted) very practical about it all.

I am so not knocking that, and it was kind of weird the first
year, no presents. But it's just us, we really don't need
much of anything, and when we do, we just get it.

> Counted as part of it will normally be one appliance (this next year,
> probably a new dryer since the old one is failing), Don needs a new
> sweatshirt or so (something with a fish on it will appeal). Don likes
> kippers so I normally wrap a few for him under the tree. To solve the
> 'what would you like' we went kinda higher tech with Amazon and our
> wish lists. I clear down to just what I want for Xmas as does
> Charlotte and we use that for some of it.

Sounds great to me. Ron, however, at the same time as he doesn't
want practical gifts, he doesn't want to shop from a list.

He's a pain in the ... you get the idea. Pretty much only in
this one aspect. Present buying and expectations.

> We use little wish lists and get some of it, such as we find.
>
> Outside the basically delayed for Xmas common things (underwear, socks,
> new bathrobe after the dog ate the last one and so on) or appliances
> that might be gotten earlier at need but counted as 'xmas', we spend
> about 50$ each total to find fun stuff for us 3.

Cool. If we had kids, it would be a different story.

> Last year we made up 'freebie cards'. Charlotte gave Don and me 10
> cards for 'taking out the trash without bitching', Don gave her 5 for
> poopie scouping the yard when it's Charlotte's turn'. I gave Charlotte
> and Don 10 cards for me to turn down my music if it's too loud (grin).

You're so clever and resourceful! (laugh) Really, it sounds
like fun.

> Anyways, agreed on the machine. We try to be responsible on the
> plastics and reuse the bags when possible.

We mostly zap meat and I don't reuse those bags. I recycle reuse
many other stuff around here, as much as I can, but not those.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 9/5/2015 5:24 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > > I got totally sick of wasting a ton of money at Christmas, trying
> > > to find something/anything to put under the tree. So we were both
> > > relieved when we agreed, no more Christmas presents. Very
> > > relaxing.
>
> > > I was never successful at avoiding freezer burn no matter how
> > > airtight I wrapped meat, or double wrapped it, stored in a
> > > bag on top of that. I love just zapping them and they stay
> > > perfect.
>
> > Smile, we love to have a full bundle under the tree but we are (as
> > earlier posted) very practical about it all.
>
> I am so not knocking that, and it was kind of weird the first
> year, no presents. But it's just us, we really don't need
> much of anything, and when we do, we just get it.
>
> > Counted as part of it will normally be one appliance (this next
> > year, probably a new dryer since the old one is failing), Don needs
> > a new sweatshirt or so (something with a fish on it will appeal).
> > Don likes kippers so I normally wrap a few for him under the tree.
> > To solve the 'what would you like' we went kinda higher tech with
> > Amazon and our wish lists. I clear down to just what I want for
> > Xmas as does Charlotte and we use that for some of it.
>
> Sounds great to me. Ron, however, at the same time as he doesn't
> want practical gifts, he doesn't want to shop from a list.
>
> He's a pain in the ... you get the idea. Pretty much only in
> this one aspect. Present buying and expectations.
>
> > We use little wish lists and get some of it, such as we find.
> >
> > Outside the basically delayed for Xmas common things (underwear,
> > socks, new bathrobe after the dog ate the last one and so on) or
> > appliances that might be gotten earlier at need but counted as
> > 'xmas', we spend about 50$ each total to find fun stuff for us 3.
>
> Cool. If we had kids, it would be a different story.
>
> > Last year we made up 'freebie cards'. Charlotte gave Don and me 10
> > cards for 'taking out the trash without bitching', Don gave her 5
> > for poopie scouping the yard when it's Charlotte's turn'. I gave
> > Charlotte and Don 10 cards for me to turn down my music if it's too
> > loud (grin).
>
> You're so clever and resourceful! (laugh) Really, it sounds
> like fun.
>
> > Anyways, agreed on the machine. We try to be responsible on the
> > plastics and reuse the bags when possible.
>
> We mostly zap meat and I don't reuse those bags. I recycle reuse
> many other stuff around here, as much as I can, but not those.
>
> nancy

Hehe Charlotte and I plotted some ideas for this next year. 5 each
certificates where we get up and feed then let the dogs out at 5:30 for
Don.

--

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 3:50:34 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
>
> >
> > The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
> > put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot thing
> > and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
> > sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
> > make that.
> >
>
> It would work with a loaf of bread the same way.

I tried it with a loaf of my favorite rye once. Without thinking,
the loaf was shrunk to half its height, and did not snap back
after it was thawed.

On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-7, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-09-05 05:32, Gary wrote:
>
> > Remember back in the 1950's, a husband would buy his wife a christmas
> > present, or a birthday present, or an anniversary present... and he
> > would buy her a new vaccumn cleaner or an iron. hahaha Talk about the
> > sexist society back then.
>
> About 20 years ago a sort of friend bought his girlfriend and iron. I
> asked him if he had tried to stick it up his ass, because that is where
> she might want to put it.

My wife used to complain about ironing all the time (I was once
foolish enough to suggest she switch to permanent press clothing --
never again.)

Anyhow, I bought her a Rowenta. After years of struggling with
GE irons she was very grateful.

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-7, cshenk wrote:

> You do not have to use the brand of bags for the machine, just the size
> that fits. Bags in long rolls are much more versatile than the one pre
> chopped for you at one end.

The rolls I have seen are wider than I like, which would be the
width of a quart ziploc bag. Further, VERY occasionally a seal will
fail. Sealing both ends will double your risk.

On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:54:41 -0600, Shalako > wrote:

> On 9/5/2015 5:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > wrote in message ...
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:08:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:12:45 -0400, S Viemeister
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
> >>>> > put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot
> >>>> thing
> >>>> > and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
> >>>> > sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
> >>>> > make that.
> >>>> >
> >>>> Hmm. Good idea, that,
> >>>
> >>> Why? Mail is based on weight, not volume.
> >>
> >> Do you not have a slot they put your envelope though at your post office?
> >> The thickness defines the cost.
> >
> > Forget it Ophelia, if it's not what is done in the USA then it doesn't
> > count to a zenophobe.
> >
> > *sigh*
>
> You have NO call to label her a "xenophobe", good ****ing grief!

That's what they do.

--

sf

On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 15:25:01 -0300, wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:03:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:08:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"sf" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:12:45 -0400, S Viemeister
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> >>> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> >>> > The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by
> >> mail, >>> > put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through
> >> the slot thing >>> > and the postage is a fraction. I often do it
> >> for my neighbour who >>> > sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland.
> >> Amazing how small you can >>> > make that.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> Hmm. Good idea, that,
> >> > >
> >> >> Why? Mail is based on weight, not volume.
> >> >
> >> > Do you not have a slot they put your envelope though at your post
> >> > office? The thickness defines the cost.
> >>
> >> Forget it Ophelia, if it's not what is done in the USA then it doesn't
> >> count to a zenophobe.
> >
> >Now now, that wasn't zenophobe, that was unfamiliar with another
> >system. It's all weight based mailing in the USA.
>
> I disagree - as others know/notice to sf if it isn't American it's no
> use, not applicable, useless, not as good. That's what zenophobic
> means.

This American knows you're a crazy bitch.

--

sf

> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 20:35:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-7, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2015-09-05 05:32, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> > Remember back in the 1950's, a husband would buy his wife a christmas
>>> > present, or a birthday present, or an anniversary present... and he
>>> > would buy her a new vaccumn cleaner or an iron. hahaha Talk about the
>>> > sexist society back then.
>>>
>>> About 20 years ago a sort of friend bought his girlfriend and iron. I
>>> asked him if he had tried to stick it up his ass, because that is where
>>> she might want to put it.
>>
>>My wife used to complain about ironing all the time (I was once
>>foolish enough to suggest she switch to permanent press clothing --
>>never again.)
>>
>>Anyhow, I bought her a Rowenta. After years of struggling with
>>GE irons she was very grateful.
>
> Back when my kids were young there was no perma press. These days I
> rarely iron anything - before I buy I check the label, if it needs
> ironing or has to be dry cleaned, I don't need it badly enough

I do the same, but the odd thing that does need ironed, D does it) Having
been in the military he has always done his own)

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On 9/5/2015 11:35 PM, wrote:

> My wife used to complain about ironing all the time (I was once
> foolish enough to suggest she switch to permanent press clothing --
> never again.)

(laugh)

> Anyhow, I bought her a Rowenta. After years of struggling with
> GE irons she was very grateful.

I never complained about ironing, but I sprung for the nice
heavy Rowenta iron.

Nowadays I don't iron much and when my iron broke (was dropped)
I was dithering about getting a new Rowenta, it's hard to justify
the cost, but Ron disappeared at Costco one day and voila, there
was a brand new one in the cart. I guess you could say it was a
gift. I appreciated it.

nancy

Sqwertz wrote:
> That's not right either.


**** off and DIE, woman-stalker:

>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

sf wrote:

>>>>> Why? Mail is based on weight, not volume.
>>>>
>>>> Do you not have a slot they put your envelope though at your post office?
>>>> The thickness defines the cost.
>>>
>>> Forget it Ophelia, if it's not what is done in the USA then it doesn't
>>> count to a zenophobe.
>>>
>>> *sigh*
>>
>> You have NO call to label her a "xenophobe", good ****ing grief!
>
> That's what they do.
>

It's depressing.

sf wrote:

>>>> Forget it Ophelia, if it's not what is done in the USA then it doesn't
>>>> count to a zenophobe.
>>>
>>> Now now, that wasn't zenophobe, that was unfamiliar with another
>>> system. It's all weight based mailing in the USA.
>>
>> I disagree - as others know/notice to sf if it isn't American it's no
>> use, not applicable, useless, not as good. That's what zenophobic
>> means.
>
> This American knows you're a crazy bitch.
>

Roger that!

wrote:
>>> I disagree - as others know/notice to sf if it isn't American it's no
>>> >>use, not applicable, useless, not as good. That's what zenophobic
>>> >>means.
>> >
>> >This American knows you're a crazy bitch.
> Thanks for proving my point !


Thanks for being a low self-esteem America-obsessed Canucklehead.

You hosers are so scared of your own shadows.

On 06/09/2015 8:30 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/5/2015 11:35 PM, wrote:
>
>> My wife used to complain about ironing all the time (I was once
>> foolish enough to suggest she switch to permanent press clothing --
>> never again.)
>
> (laugh)
>
>> Anyhow, I bought her a Rowenta. After years of struggling with
>> GE irons she was very grateful.
>
> I never complained about ironing, but I sprung for the nice
> heavy Rowenta iron.
>
> Nowadays I don't iron much and when my iron broke (was dropped)
> I was dithering about getting a new Rowenta, it's hard to justify
> the cost, but Ron disappeared at Costco one day and voila, there
> was a brand new one in the cart. I guess you could say it was a
> gift. I appreciated it.
>
> nancy
I have a Rowenta as I iron shirts every week and it is so superior to
the previous steam iron I owned. I was tempted to buy one of those irons
where the steam is generated in a base unit and conveyed to the iron by
a narrow hosepipe. My sister has one and swears by it but my needs are
too small to have justified it.
Graham

On 06/09/2015 6:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 20:35:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-7, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2015-09-05 05:32, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Remember back in the 1950's, a husband would buy his wife a christmas
>>>> > present, or a birthday present, or an anniversary present... and he
>>>> > would buy her a new vaccumn cleaner or an iron. hahaha Talk about
>>>> the
>>>> > sexist society back then.
>>>>
>>>> About 20 years ago a sort of friend bought his girlfriend and iron. I
>>>> asked him if he had tried to stick it up his ass, because that is where
>>>> she might want to put it.
>>>
>>> My wife used to complain about ironing all the time (I was once
>>> foolish enough to suggest she switch to permanent press clothing --
>>> never again.)
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I bought her a Rowenta. After years of struggling with
>>> GE irons she was very grateful.
>>
>> Back when my kids were young there was no perma press. These days I
>> rarely iron anything - before I buy I check the label, if it needs
>> ironing or has to be dry cleaned, I don't need it badly enough
>
> I do the same, but the odd thing that does need ironed, D does it)
> Having been in the military he has always done his own)
>
My mother was taught the absolutely correct way to iron a shirt by a
Lieutenant from the Royal Yacht:-)
Graham

"graham" wrote in message ...

On 06/09/2015 6:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 20:35:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-7, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2015-09-05 05:32, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Remember back in the 1950's, a husband would buy his wife a christmas
>>>> > present, or a birthday present, or an anniversary present... and he
>>>> > would buy her a new vaccumn cleaner or an iron. hahaha Talk about
>>>> the
>>>> > sexist society back then.
>>>>
>>>> About 20 years ago a sort of friend bought his girlfriend and iron. I
>>>> asked him if he had tried to stick it up his ass, because that is where
>>>> she might want to put it.
>>>
>>> My wife used to complain about ironing all the time (I was once
>>> foolish enough to suggest she switch to permanent press clothing --
>>> never again.)
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I bought her a Rowenta. After years of struggling with
>>> GE irons she was very grateful.
>>
>> Back when my kids were young there was no perma press. These days I
>> rarely iron anything - before I buy I check the label, if it needs
>> ironing or has to be dry cleaned, I don't need it badly enough
>
> I do the same, but the odd thing that does need ironed, D does it)
> Having been in the military he has always done his own)
>
My mother was taught the absolutely correct way to iron a shirt by a
Lieutenant from the Royal Yacht:-)

===============

<g> sounds like D's way! I have very few items that need an iron, but when
he does it, he does so with precision!


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On 9/6/2015 1:06 PM, graham wrote:
> On 06/09/2015 8:30 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Nowadays I don't iron much and when my iron broke (was dropped)
>> I was dithering about getting a new Rowenta, it's hard to justify
>> the cost, but Ron disappeared at Costco one day and voila, there
>> was a brand new one in the cart. I guess you could say it was a
>> gift. I appreciated it.

> I have a Rowenta as I iron shirts every week and it is so superior to
> the previous steam iron I owned. I was tempted to buy one of those irons
> where the steam is generated in a base unit and conveyed to the iron by
> a narrow hosepipe. My sister has one and swears by it but my needs are
> too small to have justified it.

I feel like it's enough to be working all week that whatever makes
it easier, go for it.

I was amused when I was looking at comments about my latest
Rowenta, people would say Why the heck would I spend XX when
I can get one for 10 bucks? But I got the Rowenta, now I get
it.

I did learn to make sure the one you get is Made in Germany.

nancy

On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 10:40:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-7, cshenk wrote:
>
> The rolls I have seen are wider than I like, which would be the
> width of a quart ziploc bag.
>
They come in the 8" and 11" width rolls.
>
> Further, VERY occasionally a seal will
> fail. Sealing both ends will double your risk.
>
When you cut the length of bag you will need then you
'seal' it buy bonding the bottom in the machine; that
makes your bag. Once filled then you will vacuum the
air out and then it will automatically seal. I don't
understand your statement "Sealing both ends will
double your risk."

> wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 10:40:57 PM UTC-5,
> wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-7, cshenk wrote:
>>
>> The rolls I have seen are wider than I like, which would be the
>> width of a quart ziploc bag.
>>
> They come in the 8" and 11" width rolls.
>>
>> Further, VERY occasionally a seal will
>> fail. Sealing both ends will double your risk.
>>
> When you cut the length of bag you will need then you
> 'seal' it buy bonding the bottom in the machine; that
> makes your bag. Once filled then you will vacuum the
> air out and then it will automatically seal. I don't
> understand your statement "Sealing both ends will
> double your risk."
>

they sell preformed bags, too.

On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 1:14:52 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> >>
> > They come in the 8" and 11" width rolls.
>
> they sell preformed bags, too.
>
>
Uh-huh. I've bought them myself, though.

On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 1:21:43 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 1:14:52 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote:
> >
> > > wrote in message
> > >>
> > > They come in the 8" and 11" width rolls.
> >
> > they sell preformed bags, too.
> >
> >
> Uh-huh. I've bought them myself, though.
>
OOPS. That should be I _haven't_ bought them
myself.

On 9/6/2015 1:46 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 11:08:21 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> My mother was taught the absolutely correct way to iron a shirt by a
>> Lieutenant from the Royal Yacht:-)
>> Graham
>
> Well I know that could not have been David - first his mother did
> everything for him, then the steward on board but it ended abruptly
> when he thought I was going to carry it on
>
My grandmother used to iron every little thing.

The great thing about living in the southern US is everyone knows the
coolest and most comfortable fabrics wrinkle. Cotton and linen. The
minute you sit down the clothes you just pressed are going to wrinkle.

Most of us don't bother with much more than minimal ironing.

Jill

On 9/5/2015 7:32 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> Remember back in the 1950's, a husband would buy his wife a christmas
> present, or a birthday present, or an anniversary present... and he
> would buy her a new vaccumn cleaner or an iron. hahaha Talk about the
> sexist society back then.

Once, in the 60s, my father bought my mother a vacuum cleaner for her
birthday. Not too long after, maybe their anniversary?, Dad bought her
a lawn mower. Dad obviously didn't learn after the vacuum cleaner
"gift", but he did after the lawn mower. He never lived down either of
those massive goofs.


--
DreadfulBitch

I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.

On 9/6/2015 3:27 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:

> Once, in the 60s, my father bought my mother a vacuum cleaner for her
> birthday. Not too long after, maybe their anniversary?, Dad bought her
> a lawn mower. Dad obviously didn't learn after the vacuum cleaner
> "gift", but he did after the lawn mower. He never lived down either of
> those massive goofs.

Meanwhile, look at the father's day ads, it's all tools for
them to work around the house.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/6/2015 3:27 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>
>> Once, in the 60s, my father bought my mother a vacuum cleaner for her
>> birthday. Not too long after, maybe their anniversary?, Dad bought her
>> a lawn mower. Dad obviously didn't learn after the vacuum cleaner
>> "gift", but he did after the lawn mower. He never lived down either of
>> those massive goofs.
>
> Meanwhile, look at the father's day ads, it's all tools for
> them to work around the house.
>
> nancy
>

but THAT's different!

On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 3:27:13 PM UTC-4, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 9/5/2015 7:32 AM, Gary wrote:
> >
> > Remember back in the 1950's, a husband would buy his wife a christmas
> > present, or a birthday present, or an anniversary present... and he
> > would buy her a new vaccumn cleaner or an iron. hahaha Talk about the
> > sexist society back then.
>
> Once, in the 60s, my father bought my mother a vacuum cleaner for her
> birthday. Not too long after, maybe their anniversary?, Dad bought her
> a lawn mower. Dad obviously didn't learn after the vacuum cleaner
> "gift", but he did after the lawn mower. He never lived down either of
> those massive goofs.

I received a vacuum cleaner for my birthday once. I was extremely
pleased by it.

Then again, I have a job, so I'm not much invested in my identity
as a homemaker.

I received 10 tons of 3/4 crushed limestone for my 17th wedding
anniversary.

Cindy Hamilton

On 9/6/2015 2:28 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 3:27:13 PM UTC-4, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>> On 9/5/2015 7:32 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> Remember back in the 1950's, a husband would buy his wife a christmas
>>> present, or a birthday present, or an anniversary present... and he
>>> would buy her a new vaccumn cleaner or an iron. hahaha Talk about the
>>> sexist society back then.
>>
>> Once, in the 60s, my father bought my mother a vacuum cleaner for her
>> birthday. Not too long after, maybe their anniversary?, Dad bought her
>> a lawn mower. Dad obviously didn't learn after the vacuum cleaner
>> "gift", but he did after the lawn mower. He never lived down either of
>> those massive goofs.
>
> I received a vacuum cleaner for my birthday once. I was extremely
> pleased by it.
>
> Then again, I have a job, so I'm not much invested in my identity
> as a homemaker.
>
> I received 10 tons of 3/4 crushed limestone for my 17th wedding
> anniversary.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

10 tons?

You must have a big driveway!