anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.

Exactly, and no I have never used one.

Makes a lot of trash too!!

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.

No. I agree with your assessment, but it might make sense for people
who buy things in large quantities and freeze them for months or
years.

--

sf

On 2015-09-04 12:54, Kalmia wrote:
> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>

I have one and use it quite often. It is handy when you get quantities
of stuff on sale cheap and need to protect it in the freezer. My wife
gets a special aged cheese in a local produce store that shuts down for
three months in the winter. I buy her a big block of it, cut it into
smaller pieces and vacuum pack them with it.

Kalmia > wrote:
> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges-
> cheap machine, expensive bags.

I do have one, but I don't use it as often as I should. They are handy
when you live by yourself and don't need a whole package of meat for one
meal or like to save money by buying in larger quantities. I sometimes
stock up on family sized packages of meat when they're an exceptional
price, then break the packages down into meal sized portions before
freezing. I've also used it to freeze individual servings of lasagna,
etc.
--
jinx the minx

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-7, Kalmia wrote:
> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>

Yes, food lasts and lasts in the freezer. The bags go on sale from
time to time.
The bags can be washed and reused, although they get smaller all the
time. I find the smaller bags more useful.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
>> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges-
>> cheap machine, expensive bags.
>
> No. I agree with your assessment, but it might make sense for people
> who buy things in large quantities and freeze them for months or
> years.

I have one but I need the vacuum for the sous vide thingy and I use it when
I break down large packs of meat for the freezer.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
>>anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges-
>>cheap machine, expensive bags.
>
> I do and I like it for stuff I want to put in the freezer. I buy any
> bags on sale, they all work.

Yep I can get the rolls for a good price on line though.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-7, Kalmia wrote:
>> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges-
>> cheap machine, expensive bags.
>>
>
> Yes, food lasts and lasts in the freezer. The bags go on sale from
> time to time.
> The bags can be washed and reused, although they get smaller all the
> time. I find the smaller bags more useful.

I do that too
--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.

Are we talking about vacuum packed heat-sealed bags? If so, yes I do
have one and use it quite often. Very handy for those times you have a
lot of something and want to freeze it or otherwise store it for a
long time. I still have some salmon I packed several months ago and it
could still pass for fresh.

They can have uses other than for just storing food too, I have some
firearms that never get used packed away in 'foodsaver' bags, for
example.

I'd argue though that if you have to ask whether 'foodsavers' is of
any use or value - then you probably don't need one.

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 17:42:55 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:56:58 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:
>>
>>>anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>>
>>Exactly, and no I have never used one.
>>
>>Makes a lot of trash too!!
>>
>>John Kuthe...
>
>Why do you think it makes a lot of trash? Don't get that.

Nor do I. I suppose John could use/buy food NOT packed in such a way,
meaning that John would go through *many more* non-foodsaver bags in
order in the process of doing that <G>.

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 17:45:24 -0300, wrote:

>The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
>put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot thing
>and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
>sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland.

Heh, good idea

>Amazing how small you can make that.

Same for cannabis, a pound packed in foodsaver bags is quite small in
size.

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 17:42:06 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:
>
>>anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>
>I do and I like it for stuff I want to put in the freezer. I buy any
>bags on sale, they all work.

I've found that some brands of bags are of *much* better quality than
others.

I have a large quantity of cheap bags I bought from a catering
suppliers, they're 'okay', but I can get another brand (only available
at retail prices) which are far tougher and less prone to tearing. The
cheaper ones also don't seem to heat seal quite as good either.

I much prefer to pay more for the better quality bags, rather than
have the occasional frozen item that has some freezer burn because the
bag has torn of the seal has broken.

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 13:42:14 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-7, Kalmia wrote:
>> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>>
>
>Yes, food lasts and lasts in the freezer. The bags go on sale from
>time to time.
>The bags can be washed and reused, although they get smaller all the
>time. I find the smaller bags more useful.

I re-use quite a lot of mine, depending on what was previously stored
in them. Any that had meat, fish or poultry I don't re-use though.

I like having some various size bags, but the most useful to me is the
large rolls that you can cut to size.

On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 07:05:35 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 13:42:14 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>>On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-7, Kalmia wrote:
>>> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>>>
>>
>>Yes, food lasts and lasts in the freezer. The bags go on sale from
>>time to time.
>>The bags can be washed and reused, although they get smaller all the
>>time. I find the smaller bags more useful.
>
>I re-use quite a lot of mine, depending on what was previously stored
>in them. Any that had meat, fish or poultry I don't re-use though.

I meant to add - when I'm packing something where I know I will re-use
the bag again, I'll make it a couple of inches longer (off the roll)
so that when it gets reused, you still have a useful sized bag that
can be easily resealed.

On 9/4/2015 1:54 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>

Basically true.

Garage sale or thrift store if you must.

Kalmia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink
> cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.

Excellent buy but not the super cheap sort that try to suck air out of
a sort of tupperware like container (useless).

You do not have to use the brand of bags for the machine, just the size
that fits. Bags in long rolls are much more versatile than the one pre
chopped for you at one end.

They really do work. If you shop every week and don't get extra meats
or other freezables when on sale, you are spending more.

To really get value though, you need a spare chest or stand up freezer.
Then next time you see a family pack of chicken legs for .49lb, you can
seal up your next 4 months worth. Just put in the freezer, it would
freezer burn in a month or less.

Carol

--

On 9/4/2015 3:38 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> you pay about 1/5th
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 9/4/2015 3:42 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> roll a doobie.
>
> -sw


**** off, druggie.

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:56:55 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> Makes a lot of trash too!!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
>
Really? What are you basing your statement on if you've
never used one?

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:54:27 PM UTC-5, Kalmia wrote:
>
> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>
>
I have one and love it. Like Jinx and Dave it's great to
catch meat on sale or family packs and then divide them
into smaller meal packages. Bags can be bought on eBay or
if you have a Bed, Bath, & Beyond near you buy your bags
with either their 20% off or $5 off coupon. Two rolls
per box.

Mine also came with the vacuum tube to do jars.

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 4:33:07 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> Excellent buy but not the super cheap sort that try to suck air out of
> a sort of tupperware like container (useless).
>
> You do not have to use the brand of bags for the machine, just the size
> that fits. Bags in long rolls are much more versatile than the one pre
> chopped for you at one end.
>
> They really do work. If you shop every week and don't get extra meats
> or other freezables when on sale, you are spending more.
>
> To really get value though, you need a spare chest or stand up freezer.
> Then next time you see a family pack of chicken legs for .49lb, you can
> seal up your next 4 months worth. Just put in the freezer, it would
> freezer burn in a month or less.
>
> Carol
>
Yes, to everything you said!

On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:

> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
> put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot thing
> and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
> sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
> make that.
>
Hmm. Good idea, that,

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:42:05 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 06:58:46 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> Same for cannabis, a pound packed in foodsaver bags is quite small in
>> size.
>
>But then it gets too compact and takes forever to break it back apart
>to roll a doobie.

Yes and no, I don't think it affects it too badly, IMO. But then, I
don't smoke doobies very often either. Thing is, it preserves and
locks in the freshness very well - plus no smell either.

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 18:34:08 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 07:03:50 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 17:42:06 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>>>
>>>I do and I like it for stuff I want to put in the freezer. I buy any
>>>bags on sale, they all work.
>>
>>I've found that some brands of bags are of *much* better quality than
>>others.
>>
>>I have a large quantity of cheap bags I bought from a catering
>>suppliers, they're 'okay', but I can get another brand (only available
>>at retail prices) which are far tougher and less prone to tearing. The
>>cheaper ones also don't seem to heat seal quite as good either.
>>
>>I much prefer to pay more for the better quality bags, rather than
>>have the occasional frozen item that has some freezer burn because the
>>bag has torn of the seal has broken.
>
>I keep and wash the good bags, each time they get smaller though.

Yeah - which is why I make my bags (off a roll) a couple of inches
longer than they need to be.

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 16:33:04 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Kalmia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink
>> cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.
>
>Excellent buy but not the super cheap sort that try to suck air out of
>a sort of tupperware like container (useless).
>
>You do not have to use the brand of bags for the machine, just the size
>that fits. Bags in long rolls are much more versatile than the one pre
>chopped for you at one end.
>
>They really do work. If you shop every week and don't get extra meats
>or other freezables when on sale, you are spending more.

Yep.

>To really get value though, you need a spare chest or stand up freezer.

Definitely a great thing for those who store a lot in freezers. I
couldn't imagine not having one now.

>Then next time you see a family pack of chicken legs for .49lb, you can
>seal up your next 4 months worth. Just put in the freezer, it would
>freezer burn in a month or less.

I can't get over chicken legs being that cheap - just mind-blowing.
I'll desist from getting on my soap box about why no one should buy
them just this time though

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:01:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

<snip>

>Mine also came with the vacuum tube to do jars.

I completely forgot about that until you mentioned it just now. Have
you tried using it, how well did it work?

I had a Sunbeam foodsaver, an earlier model than this:
https://www.sunbeam.com.au/Root/Imag..._primary_1.jpg
which had the tube. Never did try it though.

I upgraded to an Italian made Orved vacuum sealer a few years ago, as
I was vacuum sealing a hell of a lot, and need something a bit more
'industrial'. The Sunbeam was also quite noisy. Not sure if the Orved
has the tube or not... I'll have to take another look at it. Can't
find the exact same model as mine, but this one is very close:
http://www.orved.com/prodotti.php?cat=2&idp=22

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 17:27:39 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 08:14:38 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:42:05 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 06:58:46 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same for cannabis, a pound packed in foodsaver bags is quite small in
>>>> size.
>>>
>>>But then it gets too compact and takes forever to break it back apart
>>>to roll a doobie.
>>
>> Yes and no, I don't think it affects it too badly, IMO. But then, I
>> don't smoke doobies very often either. Thing is, it preserves and
>> locks in the freshness very well - plus no smell either.
>
>Definitely if you have a pound or more of stinky green, you need some
>way to contain the smell. Foodsaver bags worked for this guy for over
>a year - until some nosy bitch opened his mail:
>
>http://www.keyetv.com/news/features/...e-198709.shtml
>
>Needless to say, her store will be going out of business shortly as
>there is a very concerted social media outcry boycotting her store.

Good. She deserves everything she gets - and probably a whole lot
more, too. Who now would have any trust in her services? Reprehensible
behaviour, irrespective of whatever the contents may have been.

On 9/4/2015 4:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> you need some
> way to contain the smell.


I'd put your dwarf ass in a trash compactor with a bit of lysol.

On 9/4/2015 4:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> They all should be labeled as to how thick
> they are.
>
> -sw


So should you, dwarf.

On 9/4/2015 4:28 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-09-04 12:54, Kalmia wrote:
>> anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges-
>> cheap machine, expensive bags.
>>
>
> I have one and use it quite often. It is handy when you get quantities
> of stuff on sale cheap and need to protect it in the freezer. My wife
> gets a special aged cheese in a local produce store that shuts down for
> three months in the winter. I buy her a big block of it, cut it into
> smaller pieces and vacuum pack them with it.
>

We do all of that. When I run my smoker I like to load it up as the
amount of labor and fuel is the same for one pork chop or three
briskets. I vac pack pieces of brisket for the winter and it keeps very
well.

If you are going to freeze something for a month, any bag will do. If
you buy a full loin and cut rib eye steaks, pack them and vac them and
they will keep for a year or two. Really, I've had a couple of things
that long and they were perfect.

Not everyone needs one, but if you intend to buy in quantity and keep
for a while, it is a nice thing to have.

Sqwertz wrote:
> They all should be labeled as to how thick
> they are.
>
> -sw
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Sqwertz wrote:
> you need some way to contain the smell.

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On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:

>
> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
> put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot thing
> and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
> sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
> make that.
>

It would work with a loaf of bread the same way.

Sqwertz wrote:
> takes forever to break it back apart

**** off.

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:50:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
>
>>
>> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
>> put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot thing
>> and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
>> sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
>> make that.
>>
>
>It would work with a loaf of bread the same way.

I doubt that very much.

On 9/4/2015 5:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Marshmallows.
>
> -sw
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On 9/4/2015 5:58 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 09:42:14 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 08:58:23 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:50:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
>>>>> put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot thing
>>>>> and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
>>>>> sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
>>>>> make that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would work with a loaf of bread the same way.
>>>
>>> I doubt that very much.
>>
>> Supermarket bread.
>
> If you vacuum packed supermarket bread, would it then have less
> calories ??
>
I'd try it on your flat and empty head first....

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>anyone have one? Seems to me to be like a printer vs. ink cartridges- cheap machine, expensive bags.


I like Vacuum Sealing Steaks and Fish prior to freezing. These items
will keep perfectly for months in the freezer. You can buy a large
chunk of beef vacuum sealed at lower prices, cut it into individual
steaks to put into your freezer. Sam's Club will sell you the section
of beef the New York Strips come from, you can cut your individual
steaks as thick as you like. Oh, and when you take them out of the
freezer, you can put them in the kitchen sink to thaw in warm water
without breaking the sealed package. They thaw in just minutes instead
of hours.

William

On 9/4/2015 6:58 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:50:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 9/4/2015 4:45 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The other use is postal lol If you are sending something by mail,
>>> put it in the bag, take the air out and it fits through the slot thing
>>> and the postage is a fraction. I often do it for my neighbour who
>>> sends yarn to her sister in Newfoundland. Amazing how small you can
>>> make that.
>>>
>>
>> It would work with a loaf of bread the same way.
>
> I doubt that very much.
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG7ralll-7E
You're welcome