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Ophelia wrote:
> G wrote: > > You are correct too. ground beef with a little tomato paste and some > > spices. There is NO need to add sugar unless that taste appeals to > > you. > > Do you think, in general, that Americans have a sweeter tooth than the > Brits? Ha. I would never "go there." I don't think a country matters...it's all individual tastes, imo, no matter where you live. For a fairly good example of "sloppy joe's," see if you can buy a can of Manwich. Cook some loose ground beef, onions and maybe some worchestershire. Drain and add the can of M. Serve on fresh buns. See what you think. I like that well enough but as I said....I'll do that once every 4-5 years, so no biggie. G. :-) |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > jinx the minx wrote: >> >> Tomato sauce, a little paste, seasonings, onions and sometimes finely >> diced >> veggies. Never added sugar. I love sloppy joes, but can't stand the >> sweet ones or ones based on barbecue sauce. > > You are correct too. ground beef with a little tomato paste and some > spices. There is NO need to add sugar unless that taste appeals to > you. The only sloppy joes I ever had was at grammar school lunch, and I didn't like them as I found them sweet. Never had any since. Not sure I have ever seen any since. |
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On 2015-09-14, Does it really matter? > wrote:
> On 9/13/2015 3:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> I just feel like we have all tried very hard to explain to you what >> seems like a very simple thing. > My irony meter just exploded. LOL!..... |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:48:15 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Janet B" > wrote in message snip >> >> Never mind. You come on over and I will fix you a taco salad. > >lol thank you. I am sorry if I am making people fed up with something so >simple;) I understand it is for you, but it was unknown to me and I am >interested. It is one of the reasons I am here. I love to learn new (to >me) stuff. > >Thank you for your patience:) Only one person has commented impatiently. If you wanted to make a Japanese-styled stir-fry, the home cook would choose seasonings and ingredients that are readily recognized as generally being in Japanese foods. If you wanted to wing an Indian dish, you would choose seasonings and vegetables typical of Indian cooking. The same is true of a taco salad. The ingredients are fluid, but they are chosen from within the typical Mexican food realm. Seasonings for the meat or beans may include cumin, cilantro, chilies, garlic, onions. Cheese is generally included in many Mexican dishes. Other ingredients typical of Mexican food vary widely. In making a taco salad, the cook has free rein within that palate. The tortilla is an adjunct to the salad -- a tip of the hat to tacos. and thus the name Taco Salad. I am not familiar enough with British foods to be able to choose one where such mixing and matching is recognized as being from a base dish and maybe that is where your confusion arises. Perhaps there are no British dishes that spawn offspring dishes. Janet US |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:07:41 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Bruce" > wrote in message .. . >> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:39:20 +0100, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: >>>> >>>>> > Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>>>> >>>>> Not any I've ever eaten. >>>> >>>> Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes >>>> than I really care to contemplate. >>> >>>OTOH I have never been presented with a sloppy joe, sweet or otherwise:)) >>> >>>Another thing beyond my ken:)) >> >> Let me guess: crushed ice, chemicals that taste like fruit, stir, >> sell. > >OH! I thought it was like burgers!! My mother's recipe would be chopped onions, chopped celery, chopped green pepper, tomato sauce, salt and pepper fried together with ground (mince) beef. Serve on a hamburger bun. Whenever I had a birthday party where my friends from school were invited, that was the chosen menu. Sloppy Joe's, potato chips, orange drink, birthday cake and ice cream. Yum, yum ;) Janet US |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:57:23 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message snip >> >> Crumbled ground beef, browned and sauced with tomato sauce (puree), >> and other flavorings. Here's what I would consider an average, >> typical recipe. It uses all ketchup; a lot of recipes use part >> tomato sauce and part ketchup. Like many home-cooked foods, there >> are a lot of variations on it. >> >> <http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/sloppy-joes-sandwiches> > >Thanks! I see they add a lot of sugar in that recipe:( I guess that >sweetness is popular. No, sweetness isn't universally popular. Don't mess with any entree of mine by adding something sweet. Janet US |
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"Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:48:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message > > snip >>> >>> Never mind. You come on over and I will fix you a taco salad. >> >>lol thank you. I am sorry if I am making people fed up with something so >>simple;) I understand it is for you, but it was unknown to me and I am >>interested. It is one of the reasons I am here. I love to learn new (to >>me) stuff. >> >>Thank you for your patience:) > > Only one person has commented impatiently. Yes, but I was then concerned that others might be too. > If you wanted to make a Japanese-styled stir-fry, the home cook would > choose seasonings and ingredients that are readily recognized as > generally being in Japanese foods. If you wanted to wing an Indian > dish, you would choose seasonings and vegetables typical of Indian > cooking. The same is true of a taco salad. The ingredients are > fluid, but they are chosen from within the typical Mexican food realm. > Seasonings for the meat or beans may include cumin, cilantro, chilies, > garlic, onions. Cheese is generally included in many Mexican dishes. > Other ingredients typical of Mexican food vary widely. In making a > taco salad, the cook has free rein within that palate. The tortilla > is an adjunct to the salad -- a tip of the hat to tacos. and thus the > name Taco Salad. > I am not familiar enough with British foods to be able to choose one > where such mixing and matching is recognized as being from a base dish > and maybe that is where your confusion arises. Perhaps there are no > British dishes that spawn offspring dishes. Oh yes of course we have! I was just confused with the number of differently named dishes but I did eventually get there when I realised they all started in one way or another with tortillas:) After that I was good to go:)) Thank you again:) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:07:41 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:39:20 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... >>>>> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> > Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not any I've ever eaten. >>>>> >>>>> Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes >>>>> than I really care to contemplate. >>>> >>>>OTOH I have never been presented with a sloppy joe, sweet or >>>>otherwise:)) >>>> >>>>Another thing beyond my ken:)) >>> >>> Let me guess: crushed ice, chemicals that taste like fruit, stir, >>> sell. >> >>OH! I thought it was like burgers!! > > My mother's recipe would be chopped onions, chopped celery, chopped > green pepper, tomato sauce, salt and pepper fried together with ground > (mince) beef. Serve on a hamburger bun. Whenever I had a birthday > party where my friends from school were invited, that was the chosen > menu. Sloppy Joe's, potato chips, orange drink, birthday cake and ice > cream. Yum, yum ;) :)))) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:57:23 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message > > snip >>> >>> Crumbled ground beef, browned and sauced with tomato sauce (puree), >>> and other flavorings. Here's what I would consider an average, >>> typical recipe. It uses all ketchup; a lot of recipes use part >>> tomato sauce and part ketchup. Like many home-cooked foods, there >>> are a lot of variations on it. >>> >>> <http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/sloppy-joes-sandwiches> >> >>Thanks! I see they add a lot of sugar in that recipe:( I guess that >>sweetness is popular. > > No, sweetness isn't universally popular. Don't mess with any entree > of mine by adding something sweet. Ok thanks:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Janet B > wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:48:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message > > snip >>> >>> Never mind. You come on over and I will fix you a taco salad. >> >> lol thank you. I am sorry if I am making people fed up with something so >> simple;) I understand it is for you, but it was unknown to me and I am >> interested. It is one of the reasons I am here. I love to learn new (to >> me) stuff. >> >> Thank you for your patience:) > > Only one person has commented impatiently. > If you wanted to make a Japanese-styled stir-fry, the home cook would > choose seasonings and ingredients that are readily recognized as > generally being in Japanese foods. If you wanted to wing an Indian > dish, you would choose seasonings and vegetables typical of Indian > cooking. The same is true of a taco salad. The ingredients are > fluid, but they are chosen from within the typical Mexican food realm. > Seasonings for the meat or beans may include cumin, cilantro, chilies, > garlic, onions. Cheese is generally included in many Mexican dishes. > Other ingredients typical of Mexican food vary widely. In making a > taco salad, the cook has free rein within that palate. The tortilla > is an adjunct to the salad -- a tip of the hat to tacos. and thus the > name Taco Salad. > I am not familiar enough with British foods to be able to choose one > where such mixing and matching is recognized as being from a base dish > and maybe that is where your confusion arises. Perhaps there are no > British dishes that spawn offspring dishes. > Janet US This is probably the clearest explanation yet. It's less about the ingredients and more about the flavor profile that makes a salad a "taco" salad. The way some have described it, it almost sounds like you could put a Caesar salad in a taco bowl and call it taco salad. -- jinx the minx |
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Gary > wrote:
> jinx the minx wrote: >> >> Tomato sauce, a little paste, seasonings, onions and sometimes finely diced >> veggies. Never added sugar. I love sloppy joes, but can't stand the >> sweet ones or ones based on barbecue sauce. > > You are correct too. ground beef with a little tomato paste and some > spices. There is NO need to add sugar unless that taste appeals to > you. I've also made them with a can of (gulp!) either beef barley or chicken gumbo soup, but I find Manwich to be far too sweet as well. -- jinx the minx |
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On 2015-09-14, gtr > wrote:
> They're dead-center of what typifies SoCal-style Mexican tacos too. I did not know that, as I've not been to SoCal for over 35 yrs, but, good to know. Thnx. > I've stopped apologizing for liking Taco Bell-style tacos..... heh heh..... I have a guilty weakness for TB, myself. Never cared for their tacos, but love their super burritos and have made their tostados at home ever since I first discovered 'em, in AZ, @ $0.19 ea, back in '66. I was also a TB fan when they came out with their short-lived, but game changing steak fajitas. First time I ever tasted cilantro. Sadly, we lost our TB/KFC outlet, here, a couple yrs ago. No big loss, as their super burritos had climbed to almost $4 ea. I love 'em dearly, but not enough to pay that much $$ fer one. Rather have my own homemade carnitas "soft" tacos. ;) Homage to TB by comedian Chris Porter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuBGPylPVIU nb |
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"jinx the minx" > wrote in message ... > "Julie Bove" > wrote: >> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >> ... >>> "Cheri" > wrote: >>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message >> >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message > >>> >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message >> >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "la casa del destino" > wrote in message >>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On 9/13/2015 6:53 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:34:18 -0600, Janet B > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:57:20 +0100, "Ophelia" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> snip >>>>>>>>>> I love learning all this stuff but eating them >>>>>>>>>>> would be a different matter. Spicy foods are simply not >>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> we would >>>>>>>>>>> eat. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much:) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> O >>>>>>>>>> I don't recall, do you make chili? >>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chili needn't contain hot pepper, I prefer with very little, >>>>>>>>> guests >>>>>>>>> can add their own. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you're really making bean-laced sloppy joes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not any I've ever eaten. >>>>> >>>>> Really? Even the recipes sound sweet. This is just one but with >>>>> ketchup > and brown sugar in it, how could it not be sweet? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.food.com/recipe/sloppy-joes-101475 >>>> >>>> I make mine non sweet like my mom used to make them, with tomato sauce, >>>> but no BBQ sauce or ketchup. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>>>> >>> >>> My recipe (also from my mom) isn't sweet either. It does not contain >>> BBQ >>> sauce, ketchup, or brown sugar. >> >> Then what is in it? I remember making it as a kid. I think it had >> tomato sauce or paste, peppers, probably onions and a lot of sugar. > > Tomato sauce, a little paste, seasonings, onions and sometimes finely > diced > veggies. Never added sugar. I love sloppy joes, but can't stand the > sweet ones or ones based on barbecue sauce. > -- > jinx the minx Same here. Cheri |
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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message ... > > "Cheri" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> "Cheri" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> "la casa del destino" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On 9/13/2015 6:53 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:34:18 -0600, Janet B > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:57:20 +0100, "Ophelia" >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> snip >>>>>>>> I love learning all this stuff but eating them >>>>>>>>> would be a different matter. Spicy foods are simply not something >>>>>>>>> we would >>>>>>>>> eat. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much:) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> O >>>>>>>> I don't recall, do you make chili? >>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chili needn't contain hot pepper, I prefer with very little, guests >>>>>>> can add their own. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Then you're really making bean-laced sloppy joes. >>>>> >>>>> Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>>> >>>> Not any I've ever eaten. >>> >>> Really? Even the recipes sound sweet. This is just one but with >>> ketchup and brown sugar in it, how could it not be sweet? >>> >>> http://www.food.com/recipe/sloppy-joes-101475 >> >> I make mine non sweet like my mom used to make them, with tomato sauce, >> but no BBQ sauce or ketchup. > > The only kind I've ever had were sweet ones. Yes, I imagine everyone has their own way of making them. I have tasted the sweet recipes, but didn't care for them. Cheri > |
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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... > On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: > >> > Sloppy Joes are sweet. >> >> Not any I've ever eaten. > > Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes > than I really care to contemplate. > > Cindy Hamilton I should take that back, since my granddaughter makes them sweet, so I have tasted them, but don't care for them. Cheri |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > > > "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message > ... >> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: >> >>> > Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>> >>> Not any I've ever eaten. >> >> Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes >> than I really care to contemplate. > > OTOH I have never been presented with a sloppy joe, sweet or otherwise:)) > > Another thing beyond my ken:)) Think something like spaghetti meat sauce served over buns, not exactly, but similar. Cheri |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > > > "Janet B" > wrote in message > ... >> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:57:23 +0100, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >> >> snip >>>> >>>> Crumbled ground beef, browned and sauced with tomato sauce (puree), >>>> and other flavorings. Here's what I would consider an average, >>>> typical recipe. It uses all ketchup; a lot of recipes use part >>>> tomato sauce and part ketchup. Like many home-cooked foods, there >>>> are a lot of variations on it. >>>> >>>> <http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/sloppy-joes-sandwiches> >>> >>>Thanks! I see they add a lot of sugar in that recipe:( I guess that >>>sweetness is popular. >> >> No, sweetness isn't universally popular. Don't mess with any entree >> of mine by adding something sweet. > > Ok thanks:)) This from the net: Sloppy joe: A sloppy joe is a sandwich consisting of ground beef, onions, tomato sauce or ketchup, Worcestershire sauce, and other seasonings, served on a hamburger bun. The dish originated in the United States during the early 20th century. |
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"Does it really matter?" > wrote in message ... > On 9/13/2015 3:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> I just feel like we have all tried very hard to explain to you what >> seems like a very simple thing. > > My irony meter just exploded. Hopefully it took your nym shifting head off. Cheri |
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On 2015-09-14 08:52, notbob wrote:
> Sadly, we lost our TB/KFC outlet, here, a couple yrs ago. No big > loss, as their super burritos had climbed to almost $4 ea. I love 'em > dearly, but not enough to pay that much $$ fer one. Rather have my > own homemade carnitas "soft" tacos. ;) > I only had one experience with Taco Bell. There was one a couple doors down from our office and I stopped in there once and got a beef burrito at the end of an afternoon shift. I woke up around 4 am feeling like I was about to explode. |
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"jinx the minx" > wrote in message ... > Janet B > wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:48:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "Janet B" > wrote in message >> >> snip >>>> >>>> Never mind. You come on over and I will fix you a taco salad. >>> >>> lol thank you. I am sorry if I am making people fed up with something >>> so >>> simple;) I understand it is for you, but it was unknown to me and I >>> am >>> interested. It is one of the reasons I am here. I love to learn new >>> (to >>> me) stuff. >>> >>> Thank you for your patience:) >> >> Only one person has commented impatiently. >> If you wanted to make a Japanese-styled stir-fry, the home cook would >> choose seasonings and ingredients that are readily recognized as >> generally being in Japanese foods. If you wanted to wing an Indian >> dish, you would choose seasonings and vegetables typical of Indian >> cooking. The same is true of a taco salad. The ingredients are >> fluid, but they are chosen from within the typical Mexican food realm. >> Seasonings for the meat or beans may include cumin, cilantro, chilies, >> garlic, onions. Cheese is generally included in many Mexican dishes. >> Other ingredients typical of Mexican food vary widely. In making a >> taco salad, the cook has free rein within that palate. The tortilla >> is an adjunct to the salad -- a tip of the hat to tacos. and thus the >> name Taco Salad. >> I am not familiar enough with British foods to be able to choose one >> where such mixing and matching is recognized as being from a base dish >> and maybe that is where your confusion arises. Perhaps there are no >> British dishes that spawn offspring dishes. >> Janet US > > This is probably the clearest explanation yet. It's less about the > ingredients and more about the flavor profile that makes a salad a "taco" > salad. The way some have described it, it almost sounds like you could > put > a Caesar salad in a taco bowl and call it taco salad. Yes, I agree! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Cheri" > wrote in message ... > > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... >> >> >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: >>> >>>> > Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>>> >>>> Not any I've ever eaten. >>> >>> Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes >>> than I really care to contemplate. >> >> OTOH I have never been presented with a sloppy joe, sweet or otherwise:)) >> >> Another thing beyond my ken:)) > > Think something like spaghetti meat sauce served over buns, not exactly, > but similar. That, I can visualise:)) Thanks:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Cheri" > wrote in message ... > > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... >> >> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:57:23 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >>> >>> snip >>>>> >>>>> Crumbled ground beef, browned and sauced with tomato sauce (puree), >>>>> and other flavorings. Here's what I would consider an average, >>>>> typical recipe. It uses all ketchup; a lot of recipes use part >>>>> tomato sauce and part ketchup. Like many home-cooked foods, there >>>>> are a lot of variations on it. >>>>> >>>>> <http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/sloppy-joes-sandwiches> >>>> >>>>Thanks! I see they add a lot of sugar in that recipe:( I guess that >>>>sweetness is popular. >>> >>> No, sweetness isn't universally popular. Don't mess with any entree >>> of mine by adding something sweet. >> >> Ok thanks:)) > > This from the net: > > Sloppy joe: > A sloppy joe is a sandwich consisting of ground beef, onions, tomato sauce > or ketchup, Worcestershire sauce, and other seasonings, served on a > hamburger bun. The dish originated in the United States during the early > 20th century. Thanks, Cheri:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 9/13/2015 11:59 PM, gtr wrote:
> Junk food--again I make no apologies, but I like to state that I > understand the differences. That's it! You're going to fry for your sins! Jeebers is Lard! |
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On 9/14/2015 5:24 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Ophelia" wrote: >>> >>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message: >>>> You are making this waaaay too complicated. >>> >>> I am very sorry you think so. You forget these things are unknown to me >>> and I am interested. If you find it annoying please ignore my posts. >> >> I just feel like we have all tried very hard to explain to you what seems >> like a very simple thing. > > Wow. Julie jumps on her #1 supporter. Bad move, imo. > After you slobbered all over Marty and Sqwerty here? Yeah, right... |
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On 9/14/2015 5:26 AM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote: >> >> Gary wrote: >>> I have no problem with your posts. Just wondering which one you use. >>> It has some features that I like. >> >> It's 40tude Dialog. >> http://dialog.datalist.org/ > > GT, Steve! :) > STOP REPLYING TO THE WOMAN STALKER NOW, ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! \|||/ (o o) ,---ooO--(_)--------. | | | Please don't | |feed the Sqwerty & | | Marty TROLLS! | | | `-------------ooO---' |__|__| || || ooO Ooo |
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On 9/14/2015 6:47 AM, Does it really matter? wrote:
> On 9/13/2015 3:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> I just feel like we have all tried very hard to explain to you what >> seems like a very simple thing. > > My irony meter just exploded. > First time? |
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On 9/14/2015 7:12 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message > ... >> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:07:41 +0100, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "Bruce" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:39:20 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> > Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not any I've ever eaten. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes >>>>>> than I really care to contemplate. >>>>> >>>>> OTOH I have never been presented with a sloppy joe, sweet or >>>>> otherwise:)) >>>>> >>>>> Another thing beyond my ken:)) >>>> >>>> Let me guess: crushed ice, chemicals that taste like fruit, stir, >>>> sell. >>> >>> OH! I thought it was like burgers!! >> >> Maybe I was talking about a slurpie Joe. No, that sounds wrong. > > Is there such a thing? > > NO!!! For God's sake NO!!! Please, maybe you are Hyacinth Bucket! |
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On 9/14/2015 7:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 6:39:30 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote: >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: >>> >>>>> Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>>> >>>> Not any I've ever eaten. >>> >>> Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes >>> than I really care to contemplate. >> >> OTOH I have never been presented with a sloppy joe, sweet or otherwise:)) >> >> Another thing beyond my ken:)) > > It was a popular way to stretch ground beef when I was growing up. > Babysitters and party hosts used to make them frequently. I still make > 'em once in a while, but mine have only a little ketchup in them, > and a good deal more tomato sauce. And, I'm afraid, a good squirt > or ten of Tabasco sauce, because that's the way we like them (even > though I know you wouldn't care for that). > > Cindy Hamilton > I have to say, wet ground meat sucks. Sorry. |
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On 9/14/2015 8:02 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 06:34:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > >> On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 7:08:03 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote: >>> "Bruce" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:39:20 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sloppy Joes are sweet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not any I've ever eaten. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes >>>>>> than I really care to contemplate. >>>>> >>>>> OTOH I have never been presented with a sloppy joe, sweet or otherwise:)) >>>>> >>>>> Another thing beyond my ken:)) >>>> >>>> Let me guess: crushed ice, chemicals that taste like fruit, stir, >>>> sell. >> >> For all I know, there's a drink called the Sloppy Joe, but I'm >> pretty much a beer drinker, so my information is limited. > > That's what I thought. But when I google pictures, I find a food item: > > <https://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22sloppy+Joe%22&biw=1600&bih=758&source= lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI7ffV2df2xw IVRMemCh2IKA3h> > > Sloppy Joes look like they've already been eaten. > And regurgitated. |
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On 9/14/2015 10:23 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > "Does it really matter?" > wrote in message > ... >> On 9/13/2015 3:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> I just feel like we have all tried very hard to explain to you what >>> seems like a very simple thing. >> >> My irony meter just exploded. > > Hopefully it took your nym shifting head off. > > Cheri > LOL!!! |
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On 9/14/2015 10:27 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-09-14 08:52, notbob wrote: > >> Sadly, we lost our TB/KFC outlet, here, a couple yrs ago. No big >> loss, as their super burritos had climbed to almost $4 ea. I love 'em >> dearly, but not enough to pay that much $$ fer one. Rather have my >> own homemade carnitas "soft" tacos. ;) >> > > > I only had one experience with Taco Bell. There was one a couple doors > down from our office and I stopped in there once and got a beef burrito > at the end of an afternoon shift. I woke up around 4 am feeling like I > was about to explode. > > Cops need to eat donuts, you know that! |
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In article >, notbob
> wrote: > > I've stopped apologizing for liking Taco Bell-style tacos..... > > heh heh..... > > I have a guilty weakness for TB, myself. Never cared for their tacos, > but love their super burritos and have made their tostados at home > ever since I first discovered 'em, in AZ, @ $0.19 ea, back in '66. I > was also a TB fan when they came out with their short-lived, but game > changing steak fajitas. First time I ever tasted cilantro. This might be too frightening to contemplate, but when I first ate (somewhat regularly based on price and how late they were open) around 1974, I use to eat a quazi-enchilada think in an aluminum plate (heavy on the "quazi"). It was called and "enchirito". It had two slices of black olive on top. I was a growing lad, both in body--no thanks to them, and in mind, though not for a few years yet... |
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In article >, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2015-09-14 08:52, notbob wrote: > > > Sadly, we lost our TB/KFC outlet, here, a couple yrs ago. No big > > loss, as their super burritos had climbed to almost $4 ea. I love 'em > > dearly, but not enough to pay that much $$ fer one. Rather have my > > own homemade carnitas "soft" tacos. ;) > > I only had one experience with Taco Bell. There was one a couple doors > down from our office and I stopped in there once and got a beef burrito > at the end of an afternoon shift. I woke up around 4 am feeling like I > was about to explode. That's how you know it's working! |
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> > Janet wrote: > > > > In article >, > > says... > > > > > > On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 7:08:03 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote: > > > > "Bruce" > wrote in message > > > > ... > > > > > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:39:20 +0100, "Ophelia" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message > > > > ... > > > > >>> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > Sloppy Joes are sweet. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Not any I've ever eaten. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Lucky you. I've been presented with more sickly-sweet sloppy joes > > > > >>> than I really care to contemplate. > > > > >> > > > > >>OTOH I have never been presented with a sloppy joe, sweet or otherwise:)) > > > > >> > > > > >>Another thing beyond my ken:)) > > > > > > > > > > Let me guess: crushed ice, chemicals that taste like fruit, stir, > > > > > sell. > > > > > > For all I know, there's a drink called the Sloppy Joe, but I'm > > > pretty much a beer drinker, so my information is limited. > > > > > > > OH! I thought it was like burgers!! > > > > > > Crumbled ground beef, browned and sauced with tomato sauce (puree), > > > and other flavorings. Here's what I would consider an average, > > > typical recipe. It uses all ketchup; a lot of recipes use part > > > tomato sauce and part ketchup. Like many home-cooked foods, there > > > are a lot of variations on it. > > > > > > <http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/sloppy-joes-sandwiches> > > > > TWO TABLESPOONS of brown sugar, AND the sweetness of a cup of ketchup? > > > > <boggle> > > > > Janet UK > > Oh, the horrors of it all. I wouldn't use that much sugar in an apple pie. Janet UK |
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> wrote in message ... > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:15:11 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Gary" > wrote in message ... >>> jinx the minx wrote: >>>> >>>> Tomato sauce, a little paste, seasonings, onions and sometimes finely >>>> diced >>>> veggies. Never added sugar. I love sloppy joes, but can't stand the >>>> sweet ones or ones based on barbecue sauce. >>> >>> You are correct too. ground beef with a little tomato paste and some >>> spices. There is NO need to add sugar unless that taste appeals to >>> you. >> >>Do you think, in general, that Americans have a sweeter tooth than the >>Brits? > > For sure! Probably the most noticeable one is jam - NA jams are so > sweet I loathe them. Will pay extra for UK one if I absolutely must > have jam. Gotta agree there about the jams, I never liked the UK jams at all, not sweet enough, though I very seldomly eat jams and jellys anymore. Cheri |
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gtr wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 2015-09-13 18:41:28 +0000, notbob said: > > >On 2015-09-13, William > wrote: > > > > > Thanks Carol! Gosh, I feel like I have a PhD in Taco Chemistry > > > > As if..... > > > > These are all gringo affectations. Authentic tacos are very > > different. > > Ah... the tricky "authenticity". Mostly I look for good taste. > Still it is helpful when words and the names of dishes have more in > common than not. > > > Picture two small corn tortillas, deep/pan fried in lard until > > pliable, then paired together and folded, then filled with a > > prepared meat such as cabeza, carnitas, birria, etc, and topped > > with finely chopped onion and cilantro. None of that burger meat, > > cheese, iceberg, and tomatoes nonsense. Gringos call them "soft" > > tacos. Mexicans call them tacos. > > That's what this taco calls a taco. > > > Granted, these are NorCal-style Mexican tacos,... > > They're dead-center of what typifies SoCal-style Mexican tacos too. > > > ...but they are more authentic than those hard/crispy pre-formed > > corn taco shells filled with Taco Bell ingredients. One thing is > > sure, I've never EVER seen any taco made with a flour tortilla. > > > > nb --Mexican cuisine loving gringo > > I've stopped apologizing for liking Taco Bell-style tacos, but I > don't pretend they are anything but drive-through junk food. There > oughta be a better name than "Taco Bell-type tacos) for the > crispy-shell seasoned-burger, fake cheese and lettuce variety of > taco. I've had more feasible versions of this in "big plate" > Mexican-ish chain restaurants (e.g. El Torito, El Chico, et al), > where they weren't junk food, just a variation on a "real taco". Yup, there are some really nice real ones at http://www.micasitamexican.com/ Thats a local Mom-n-pop place near me. They have expanded to a second one about 3 miles away by a large mall. The only item I've had there that I didnt like, was the spanish rice but then it probably is authentic. Seems underspiced to me. The prices are reasonable too. (Gary, the other fun Mexican place is El Taco Loco and they have a killer 1/2 rack of mexican dry-rub ribs! It's in the SAMS club complex and kinda behind bonefish grill). -- |
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