"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-09-16 12:25 PM, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:17:41 PM UTC-4,
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No buttermilk in your neck of the woods?
>>
>> The recipe only called for half a cup or so, and I wasn't about to
>> buy a quart of it just for that. (Similar peeve: When a recipe calls
>> for half a cup of celery and it's only available in huge amounts!)
>
> I don't blame you. Around here a quart of buttermilk runs $2.50 to $3 and
> most recipes call for one cup. It will keep for a while but that would
> mean at least four different recipes to use it up. I used to just use
> regular milk and add vinegar in place of buttermilk. Then I discovered
> powdered buttermilk. A quarter cup of that and 3/4 cup water gives me the
> one cup I need. It isn't exactly cheap, but it is cheaper than regular
> buttermilk but, more important, there is no waste.
>
>>
>> I have no idea what else to use buttermilk for, as a rule, and while
>> I COULD get it in powdered form, it would still probably spoil
>> anyway.
>
> There are lots of things that you can use buttermilk for... cakes,
> waffles, pancakes, biscuits, scones, fried chicken ...
>
>>
>> In the meantime, I was thinking of making lemon-meringue pie instead
>> - for now, anyway. (I never have, but ever since hearing of how
>> Amelia Bedelia saved the day by making one, I thought it might be
>> fun. Of course, I've EATEN it before...)
>>
>
> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't like
> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a lemon
> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
> had liked it so much.

Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message

>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't like
>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a lemon
>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>> had liked it so much.
>
>Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.

I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
only to coconut cream, in my opinion.

Doris

On 9/19/2015 2:52 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>
>>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't like
>>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a lemon
>>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>>> had liked it so much.
>>
>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>
> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>
I can't think of anyone in my family who likes it. Lots of other pies,
yes, but lemon meringue? No.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/19/2015 2:52 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>
>>>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>>>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't
>>>> like
>>>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a
>>>> lemon
>>>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>>>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>>>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>>>> had liked it so much.
>>>
>>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>
>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>
> I can't think of anyone in my family who likes it. Lots of other pies,
> yes, but lemon meringue? No.

I have a friend who likes some cream pies. But mostly the pie eaters I know
eat fruit pies.

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:05:34 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
>> On 9/19/2015 2:52 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>>>>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't
>>>>> like
>>>>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a
>>>>> lemon
>>>>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>>>>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>>>>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>>>>> had liked it so much.
>>>>
>>>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>>
>>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>>
>> I can't think of anyone in my family who likes it. Lots of other pies,
>> yes, but lemon meringue? No.
>
>I have a friend who likes some cream pies. But mostly the pie eaters I know
>eat fruit pies.

Do you know people who eat pies?!?

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:05:34 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On 9/19/2015 2:52 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
> >>>>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't
> >>>>> like
> >>>>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a
> >>>>> lemon
> >>>>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
> >>>>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
> >>>>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
> >>>>> had liked it so much.
> >>>>
> >>>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
> >>>
> >>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
> >>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
> >>>
> >> I can't think of anyone in my family who likes it. Lots of other pies,
> >> yes, but lemon meringue? No.
> >
> >I have a friend who likes some cream pies. But mostly the pie eaters I know
> >eat fruit pies.
>
> Do you know people who eat pies?!?

Porkie pies are the signature dish in Boveland.

Janet UK

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 18:41:23 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:05:34 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> On 9/19/2015 2:52 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> >>>
>> >>>>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>> >>>>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't
>> >>>>> like
>> >>>>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a
>> >>>>> lemon
>> >>>>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>> >>>>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>> >>>>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>> >>>>> had liked it so much.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> >>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>> >>>
>> >> I can't think of anyone in my family who likes it. Lots of other pies,
>> >> yes, but lemon meringue? No.
>> >
>> >I have a friend who likes some cream pies. But mostly the pie eaters I know
>> >eat fruit pies.
>>
>> Do you know people who eat pies?!?
>
> Porkie pies are the signature dish in Boveland.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/19/2015 2:52 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>
>>>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>>>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't
>>>> like
>>>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a
>>>> lemon
>>>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>>>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>>>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>>>> had liked it so much.
>>>
>>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>
>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>
> I can't think of anyone in my family who likes it. Lots of other pies,
> yes, but lemon meringue? No.


Same here. We find it too sweet.

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:37:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"S Viemeister" > wrote in message

snip
>>>
>> I can't think of anyone in my family who likes it. Lots of other pies,
>> yes, but lemon meringue? No.
>
>
>Same here. We find it too sweet.

that's easy enough to fix. IMO, that is a bad recipe for the pie (or
a commercial recipe) The home made ones in my experience are tangy
and the meringue is not icky sweet.
Janet US

On 2015-09-19 2:52 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>
>>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't like
>>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a lemon
>>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>>> had liked it so much.
>>
>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>
> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>
>


Something to think about Doris... you live in the real world. Julie
lives in a world of lies, ignorance and denial. If you go to diners,
restaurants, cafeterias you will see that lemon meringue is one of the
single most frequently offered. Only in Boveland does no one like lemon
meringue pie. My FiL was the only person I knew who disliked it.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-09-19 2:52 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>
>>>> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>>>> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't
>>>> like
>>>> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a
>>>> lemon
>>>> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>>>> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>>>> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>>>> had liked it so much.
>>>
>>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>
>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>
>>
>
>
> Something to think about Doris... you live in the real world. Julie lives
> in a world of lies, ignorance and denial. If you go to diners,
> restaurants, cafeterias you will see that lemon meringue is one of the
> single most frequently offered. Only in Boveland does no one like lemon
> meringue pie. My FiL was the only person I knew who disliked it.

You have diners and cafeterias there? Only cafeterias I know of are in
hospitals and they are not likely to have any kind of pie since they
switched over to healthy menus. We don't really have any diners here. We
have a few places that call themselves diners but they don't have the same
sort of menu that a real diner does.

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 8:53:01 AM UTC-10, Doris Night wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>
> >> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
> >> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't like
> >> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a lemon
> >> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
> >> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
> >> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
> >> had liked it so much.
> >
> >Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>
> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>
> Doris

I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet, not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that a good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.

I haven't had a coconut cream pie in about a decade. Those never disappoint.. OTOH, we have haupia pies here which is a coconut pudding pie. Typically they come with chocolate or Okinawan sweet potato filling. I like 'em!

http://dailydish.staradvertiserblogs...about-dessert/

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 8:53:01 AM UTC-10, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
>> >> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't like
>> >> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a lemon
>> >> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
>> >> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
>> >> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
>> >> had liked it so much.
>> >
>> >Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>
>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>
>> Doris
>
>I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet, not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that a good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.

I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
horrid frozen ones around here.

My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.

Doris

On 2015-09-19 22:26, Doris Night wrote:

> I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
> that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
> horrid frozen ones around here.
>
> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.

I used to buy the mix, but one day I discovered how easy it is to make
one from scratch, and it was much better than the packaged mix.

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 7:26:57 PM UTC-7, Doris Night wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>

> >I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet, not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that a good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.
>
> I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
> that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
> horrid frozen ones around here.
>
> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>

I had a friend in high school who was a nerd like myself, so we
ended up spending a lot of time at each other's house. During the
week, my mother was happy just to get a meal on the table, but his
mom really enjoyed cooking.

She asked me to stay for dinner one time and produced a heavenly
lemon meringue pie for dessert. That is the pie that I measure
all lemon meringue pies by, to this day.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:39:04 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

<snip>

>I had a friend in high school who was a nerd like myself, so we
>ended up spending a lot of time at each other's house. During the
>week, my mother was happy just to get a meal on the table, but his
>mom really enjoyed cooking.
>
>She asked me to stay for dinner one time and produced a heavenly
>lemon meringue pie for dessert. That is the pie that I measure
>all lemon meringue pies by, to this day.

I love benchmarks like that, although sometimes finding something that
lives up to that benchmark can be elusive.

I remember as a kid, we used to host bbq/parties every second weekend.
We had a friend staying with us once, and she made this huge bowl of
trifle for one of the parties. Somehow, it never got touched at the
party and the next day I tried it. Best trifle ever, just perfect. I
got to eat the entire bowl myself To this day, I've never come
across a trifle that came close to hers. I don't have much of a sweet
tooth but I do like a decent trifle.

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 4:26:57 PM UTC-10, Doris Night wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 8:53:01 AM UTC-10, Doris Night wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> >> Lemon meringue pie is good and most people like it. I have to chuckle
> >> >> about my father in law and his lemon meringue pie problems. He didn't like
> >> >> it. They were at a friend's house for dinner and the wife had made a lemon
> >> >> meringue pie for dessert. He was a good guest and always had what was
> >> >> served and made positive remarks. He raved about the woman's pie, and
> >> >> whenever they ate there she always served lemon meringue pie because he
> >> >> had liked it so much.
> >> >
> >> >Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
> >>
> >> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
> >> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
> >>
> >> Doris
> >
> >I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet, not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that a good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.
>
> I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
> that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
> horrid frozen ones around here.
>
> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>
> Doris

It's an easy pie to make. Just make the filling and beat the meringue. The times that I made it, I was surprised at how easy it was. I won't make it myself because it's kinda boring work. My MO is that once I learn how to make something, I lose interesting in making it. `

dsi1 wrote:
>
> My MO is that once I learn how to make something,
> I lose interesting in making it.

Strange. Learn to make it *tasty* and why wouldn't you want to create
it? Just guessing, hee hee.

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:18:50 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > My MO is that once I learn how to make something,
> > I lose interesting in making it.
>
> Strange. Learn to make it *tasty* and why wouldn't you want to create
> it? Just guessing, hee hee.

I have already created tasty lemon meringue pies. My whole point was these are dead simple to make. My recommendation is that you create lemon meringue pies rather than wondering why I don't do boring activities.

On 9/19/2015 10:26 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:

>> I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't
>> get a chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment -
>> too sweet, not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was
>> a couple of weeks ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a
>>plate. I'm ever hopeful that a good one will come my way.
>>Perhaps it'll happen soon.
>
> I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
> that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
> horrid frozen ones around here.
>
> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.

I love lemon meringue pie but I can't remember the last time
I had a piece. I just don't see it around. I have made it, once,
a long time ago, and I seem to recall a weeping meringue issue.

Still tasted good. I like a strong lemon flavor, not too sweet.
My lemonade is puckering, too.

nancy

In article >,
says...

> I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
> that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
> horrid frozen ones around here.

+1. Any lemon meringue that contains a factory filling has a terrible
taste and texture.
>
> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.

ditto

Janet UK

On 9/19/2015 9:26 PM, Doris Night wrote:

> I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
> that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
> horrid frozen ones around here.
>
> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>

My lemon pie is so good, it earned a special mention in a spec movie
script for the Flying Karamazov Brothers.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:26:49 -0400, Doris Night
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 8:53:01 AM UTC-10, Doris Night wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>>>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Doris
>>>
>>>I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a
>>>chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet,
>>>not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks
>>>ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that a
>>>good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.
>>
>>I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
>>that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
>>horrid frozen ones around here.
>>
>>My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>
> I have never made a bad one myself.

Have you ever made any? ;-) We are not lovers of very sweet stuff. I
mostly make savoury things but I do make apple pies, usually sweetened with
a little maple syrup and I add a few sultanas and chopped nuts.


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"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:55:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:26:49 -0400, Doris Night
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 8:53:01 AM UTC-10, Doris Night
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>>>>>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a
>>>>>chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet,
>>>>>not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks
>>>>>ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that
>>>>>a
>>>>>good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.
>>>>
>>>>I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
>>>>that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
>>>>horrid frozen ones around here.
>>>>
>>>>My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>>>
>>> I have never made a bad one myself.
>>
>>Have you ever made any? ;-)
>
> No

LOL how well do I know thee, let me count the ways ..... <g>


>>We are not lovers of very sweet stuff.
>
> What if you take a standard recipe and reduce the sugar by 75%?

I'm not sure it would work, but anyway, himself isn't too enamoured with
meringue ...


>>I mostly make savoury things but I do make apple pies, usually sweetened
>>with
>>a little maple syrup and I add a few sultanas and chopped nuts.
>
> That sounds nice.

Well, they are very popular around these 'ere part <g> We are down in N.
Yorks at present and a woman has just brought me a load of windfall apples
.... so I guess they are a bit too popular ...


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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:40:21 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:55:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:26:49 -0400, Doris Night
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 8:53:01 AM UTC-10, Doris Night
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>>>>>>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a
>>>>>>chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet,
>>>>>>not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks
>>>>>>ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
>>>>>that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
>>>>>horrid frozen ones around here.
>>>>>
>>>>>My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>>>>
>>>> I have never made a bad one myself.
>>>
>>>Have you ever made any? ;-)
>>
>> No
>
>LOL how well do I know thee, let me count the ways ..... <g>
>
>
>>>We are not lovers of very sweet stuff.
>>
>> What if you take a standard recipe and reduce the sugar by 75%?
>
>I'm not sure it would work, but anyway, himself isn't too enamoured with
>meringue ...

I also don't care for the meringue part, I scrape it off and eat the
lemon part, I don't care for pie crust either. I much prefer lemon
cake... my mom would make this one:
http://www.food.com/recipe/jello-lemo n-pudding-cake-72685

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:40:21 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:55:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:26:49 -0400, Doris Night
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
>>>>>>that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
>>>>>>horrid frozen ones around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never made a bad one myself.
>>>>
>>>>Have you ever made any? ;-)
>>>
>>> No
>>
>>LOL how well do I know thee, let me count the ways ..... <g>
>
> lol
>
>>>>We are not lovers of very sweet stuff.
>>>
>>> What if you take a standard recipe and reduce the sugar by 75%?
>>
>>I'm not sure it would work, but anyway, himself isn't too enamoured with
>>meringue ...
>
> Pavlovas are a big deal here. I like them in moderation.
>
>>>>I mostly make savoury things but I do make apple pies, usually sweetened
>>>>with a little maple syrup and I add a few sultanas and chopped nuts.
>>>
>>> That sounds nice.
>>
>>Well, they are very popular around these 'ere part <g> We are down in N.
>>Yorks at present and a woman has just brought me a load of windfall apples
>>... so I guess they are a bit too popular ...
>
> Are you saying she's hoping to get the apples back from you as apple
> pies?

That is the general impression ... <g>


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> wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:55:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:26:49 -0400, Doris Night
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 8:53:01 AM UTC-10, Doris Night
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>>>>>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a
>>>>>chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet,
>>>>>not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks
>>>>>ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that
>>>>>a
>>>>>good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.
>>>>
>>>>I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
>>>>that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
>>>>horrid frozen ones around here.
>>>>
>>>>My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>>>
>>> I have never made a bad one myself.
>>
>>Have you ever made any? ;-) We are not lovers of very sweet stuff. I
>>mostly make savoury things but I do make apple pies, usually sweetened
>>with
>>a little maple syrup and I add a few sultanas and chopped nuts.
>
> Real lemon meringue should not be overly sweet and if you like lemons,
> make it without any sugar.

D doesn't like meringue ... not sure how you reduce the sugar in that ...

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On 20/09/2015 8:11 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:44:05 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:55:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:26:49 -0400, Doris Night
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 8:53:01 AM UTC-10, Doris Night
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:29:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most people like it? I only know one person who does. My mom.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>>>>>>>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try some lemon meringue pie whenever I can because I don't get a
>>>>>>> chance too often. Most of the time, it's a disappointment - too sweet,
>>>>>>> not tart enough, or gummy. The last time had some was a couple of weeks
>>>>>>> ago. It was too sweet and I left half on a plate. I'm ever hopeful that
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> good one will come my way. Perhaps it'll happen soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
>>>>>> that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
>>>>>> horrid frozen ones around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never made a bad one myself.
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever made any? ;-) We are not lovers of very sweet stuff. I
>>>> mostly make savoury things but I do make apple pies, usually sweetened
>>>> with
>>>> a little maple syrup and I add a few sultanas and chopped nuts.
>>>
>>> Real lemon meringue should not be overly sweet and if you like lemons,
>>> make it without any sugar.
>>
>> D doesn't like meringue ... not sure how you reduce the sugar in that ...
>
> Well the meringue does require some sugar to make it hold. About to
> make some shortly, ready for next weekend. Trouble is, I can't
> remember how many frozen egg whites I put in the bowl day before
> yesterday. So will have to check if there is some sort of ratio of
> sugar to cup of whites, or sugar to X oz of whites
>
I don't think it's too critical. A recipe in the UK Good Housekeeping
book I have uses 2oz per large egg white, that would be XL in N.America.
St.Delia uses the same proportion.
Graham

On 2015-09-20, > wrote:

> Real lemon meringue should not be overly sweet and if you like lemons,
> make it without any sugar.

You must have some extremely non-tart lemons. the usual ratio of
sugar to lemon juice is about 3:1. I can't imagine eating/drinking a
non-sugar lemon anything.

I can only picture that ancient episode of the Little Rascals, where
some kid is trying to play a trumpet while another kid in the audience
totally distracts him by gnawing on a raw lemon half.

nb

On 2015-09-20 7:08 AM, wrote:

>> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>>
>> Doris
>
> I make it occasionally for my daughter and I - we both like it without
> sugar added, except in the meringue.
>


How does it set without sugar?

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2015-09-20 7:08 AM, wrote:
>
> >> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
> >>
> >> Doris
> >
> > I make it occasionally for my daughter and I - we both like it without
> > sugar added, except in the meringue.
> >
>
> How does it set without sugar?

Meringue doesn't impress me either. Next time, spread your lemon pie
with a thin layer of vanilla yogurt after it cools. That's what I've
tried and like.

G.

On 2015-09-20 10:11 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> I make it occasionally for my daughter and I - we both like it without
>>> sugar added, except in the meringue.
>>>
>>
>> How does it set without sugar?
>
> Meringue doesn't impress me either. Next time, spread your lemon pie
> with a thin layer of vanilla yogurt after it cools. That's what I've
> tried and like.
>


I like the meringue topping. The stuff I make is pretty good. I have had
my share of commercially made lemon meringues and was not impressed with
either the filling or meringue.

Over the years I have come to accept the fact that a lot of people have
their choices affected by the source of their pies. For instance, my
wife never used to like cherry pie. Her mother was not a baker and the
only cherry pies she had when she was young had come from grocery
stores. Aside from the inferior pastry, they made with canned cherry pie
filling. Once she had a real cherry pie made with freshly picked (or
fresh frozen) sour cherries she was an instant convert. I like lemon
meringue and coconut or banana cream pies because I was raised with home
made stuff. You can get good ones in a bakery, but those mass produced
commercial pies tend to be pretty sad examples. It does not surprise me
that someone whose experience is limited to those things would not be
impressed.

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:

> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.

Just goes to show that tastes vary. I don't like lemon meringue or
coconut cream pie. I'm not a big fan of coconut or of lemon desserts.
I prefer both coconut and lemon in savory dishes.

Cherry pie is my favorite; I like most fruit pies, plus chocolate, pecan,
pumpkin, and sweet potato pies.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:42:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>
>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>
>Just goes to show that tastes vary. I don't like lemon meringue or
>coconut cream pie. I'm not a big fan of coconut or of lemon desserts.
>I prefer both coconut and lemon in savory dishes.
>
>Cherry pie is my favorite; I like most fruit pies, plus chocolate, pecan,
>pumpkin, and sweet potato pies.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

My mother made coconut cream pie and banana cream pie on alternate
Sundays for my father. I love lemon meringue but don't make it but
once in a blue moon.
Janet US

On 9/19/2015 2:48 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:42:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>>
>>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>
>> Just goes to show that tastes vary. I don't like lemon meringue or
>> coconut cream pie. I'm not a big fan of coconut or of lemon desserts.
>> I prefer both coconut and lemon in savory dishes.
>>
>> Cherry pie is my favorite; I like most fruit pies, plus chocolate, pecan,
>> pumpkin, and sweet potato pies.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> My mother made coconut cream pie and banana cream pie on alternate
> Sundays for my father. I love lemon meringue but don't make it but
> once in a blue moon.
> Janet US
>
Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:42:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>>
>>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>>
>>Just goes to show that tastes vary. I don't like lemon meringue or
>>coconut cream pie. I'm not a big fan of coconut or of lemon desserts.
>>I prefer both coconut and lemon in savory dishes.
>>
>>Cherry pie is my favorite; I like most fruit pies, plus chocolate, pecan,
>>pumpkin, and sweet potato pies.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
> My mother made coconut cream pie and banana cream pie on alternate
> Sundays for my father. I love lemon meringue but don't make it but
> once in a blue moon.
> Janet US

My mother never made any sort of pie.

On 9/19/2015 2:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>
>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>
> Just goes to show that tastes vary. I don't like lemon meringue or
> coconut cream pie. I'm not a big fan of coconut or of lemon desserts.
> I prefer both coconut and lemon in savory dishes.
>
> Cherry pie is my favorite; I like most fruit pies, plus chocolate, pecan,
> pumpkin, and sweet potato pies.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 9/19/2015 10:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>
>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>
> Just goes to show that tastes vary. I don't like lemon meringue or
> coconut cream pie. I'm not a big fan of coconut or of lemon desserts.
> I prefer both coconut and lemon in savory dishes.
>
> Cherry pie is my favorite; I like most fruit pies, plus chocolate, pecan,
> pumpkin, and sweet potato pies.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Nothing good ever came from a piece of cherry pie.

On 2015-09-19 16:42, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>
>> I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
>> only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>
> Just goes to show that tastes vary. I don't like lemon meringue or
> coconut cream pie. I'm not a big fan of coconut or of lemon desserts.
> I prefer both coconut and lemon in savory dishes.
>
> Cherry pie is my favorite; I like most fruit pies, plus chocolate, pecan,
> pumpkin, and sweet potato pies.
>

Tastes do indeed vary. Sour cherry is at the top of my list, with peach
and rhubarb being tied for second place. Apple pie seems to be one of
the favourite for most people, but it is way down on my list.

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:42:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 2:53:01 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>
> > I don't believe I know one person who *doesn't* like it. It's second
> > only to coconut cream, in my opinion.
>
> Just goes to show that tastes vary. I don't like lemon meringue or
> coconut cream pie. I'm not a big fan of coconut or of lemon desserts.
> I prefer both coconut and lemon in savory dishes.
>

I love coconut and lemon... sweet/savory = who cares? Bring 'em on!

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