On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:

> Hi folks,
>
> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
> there to come from valid addresses.
>
> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
> actually needs help.
>
> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
> away.

Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the
full headers of the post:

";

It might have some effect.

On 2015-09-16 00:56:17 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
>> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
>> there to come from valid addresses.
>>
>> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
>> actually needs help.
>>
>> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
>> away.
>
> Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the
> full headers of the post:
>
> ";
>
> It might have some effect.

Oops--caught again. The complaint should likely go to both, but should
certainly include this one:

X-Complaints-To:

On 9/15/2015 6:56 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
>> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
>> there to come from valid addresses.
>>
>> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
>> actually needs help.
>>
>> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
>> away.
>
> Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the full
> headers of the post:
>
> ";
>
> It might have some effect.

Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
would not be such a loser.

On 9/15/2015 6:57 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-09-16 00:56:17 +0000, gtr said:
>
>> On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
>>> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
>>> there to come from valid addresses.
>>>
>>> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
>>> actually needs help.
>>>
>>> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
>>> away.
>>
>> Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the
>> full headers of the post:
>>
>> ";
>>
>> It might have some effect.
>
> Oops--caught again. The complaint should likely go to both, but should
> certainly include this one:
>
> X-Complaints-To:
>


Sure, double down on your censorious worst, you un-American loser.

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
> On 9/15/2015 6:56 PM, gtr wrote:
> > On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
> >> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
> >> there to come from valid addresses.
> >>
> >> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
> >> actually needs help.
> >>
> >> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
> >> away.
> >
> > Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the full
> > headers of the post:
> >
> > ";
> >
> > It might have some effect.
>
> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
> would not be such a loser.

The American ideal of free speech pertains to government restriction
on speech. It doesn't mean that we have to listen to everything
that comes out of your piehole.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:

> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
> would not be such a loser.

What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too) has free speech? Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified and labeled as anti-American. In addition, any reference criticizing internal security can result in summary detention without due process. This gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.

http://www.richardfisher.com

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:

> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
> would not be such a loser.

What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too)
has free speech? Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified
and labeled as anti-American. In addition, any reference criticizing
internal security can result in summary detention without due process. This
gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.

-----------

It is way worse than that. Speech codes abound, especially on college
campuses. Once they are indoctrinated, speech codes will become more
plentiful.

Remember this. I won't be permitted to say it in a couple years.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
>> On 9/15/2015 6:56 PM, gtr wrote:
>> > On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>> >
>> >> Hi folks,
>> >>
>> >> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because
>> >> all
>> >> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also
>> >> pretending
>> >> there to come from valid addresses.
>> >>
>> >> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
>> >> actually needs help.
>> >>
>> >> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
>> >> away.
>> >
>> > Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the
>> > full
>> > headers of the post:
>> >
>> > ";
>> >
>> > It might have some effect.
>>
>> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
>> would not be such a loser.
>
> The American ideal of free speech pertains to government restriction
> on speech. It doesn't mean that we have to listen to everything
> that comes out of your piehole.

LOL

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

>What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too) has free speech? Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified and labeled as anti-American. In addition, any reference criticizing internal security can result in summary detention without due process. This gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.

Well helpful person, perhaps you should go to Cuba and see what free
speech gets you...better yet...try North Korea


William

On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 12:13:16 PM UTC-4, BigC300 wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person wrote:
>
> >What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too) has free speech? Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified and labeled as anti-American. In addition, any reference criticizing internal security can result in summary detention without due process. This gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.
>
> Well helpful person, perhaps you should go to Cuba and see what free
> speech gets you...better yet...try North Korea
>
>
> William

Thanks for proving my point.

http://www.richardfisher.com

Sqwertz wrote:
> You need to send complaints to aioe.org


YOU ARE TOAST HERE

YOU FAT CHEEKED STALKER ****WIT!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Helpful person wrote:

>> Well helpful person, perhaps you should go to Cuba and see what free
>> speech gets you...better yet...try North Korea
>>
>>
>> William
>
> Thanks for proving my point.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>


EAT SHIT AND DIE YOU ASSHOLE!

On 9/16/2015 12:09 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:56:17 -0700, gtr wrote:
>
>> On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
>>> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
>>> there to come from valid addresses.
>>>
>>> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
>>> actually needs help.
>>>
>>> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
>>> away.
>>
>> Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the
>> full headers of the post:
>>
>> mail-complaints-to="abuse@eterna...."
>
> You need to send complaints to aioe.org
>
> Ray Banana at Eternal-September doesn't give a shit and hides behind
> outdated and petty morals with no regard to what it's doing to Usenet.
>
> -sw
>

So why are YOU using his service?

You gutless fat-cheeked hypocrite.

On 9/16/2015 4:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
>> On 9/15/2015 6:56 PM, gtr wrote:
>>> On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
>>>> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
>>>> there to come from valid addresses.
>>>>
>>>> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
>>>> actually needs help.
>>>>
>>>> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
>>>> away.
>>>
>>> Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the full
>>> headers of the post:
>>>
>>> ";
>>>
>>> It might have some effect.
>>
>> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
>> would not be such a loser.
>
> The American ideal of free speech pertains to government restriction
> on speech.

No.

It is proscribed in that manner as a legal mechanism to protect ALL free
speech at the ultimate firewall level.

Do NOT think you can use some grotesquely narrow precept to endorse
crass censorship.

> It doesn't mean that we have to listen to everything
> that comes out of your piehole.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

No one said you had to, did they?

Well?????

You have a mouse and a mind, feel free to pass by any and or all of my
posts if you wish.

But do NOT attempt to censor me.

That would be a MASSIVE mistake.

Capisce?

On 9/16/2015 6:34 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
>
>> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
>> would not be such a loser.
>
> What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too) has free speech?

The 1st amendment?

> Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified and labeled as anti-American.

That is opinion, not censoring.

> In addition, any reference criticizing internal security can result in summary detention without due process.

Not true.

> This gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com

Bull ****ing shit, you racist pile of shit!

On 9/16/2015 6:44 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
> "Helpful person" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
>
>> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
>> would not be such a loser.
>
> What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too)
> has free speech? Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified
> and labeled as anti-American. In addition, any reference criticizing
> internal security can result in summary detention without due process. This
> gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.
>
> -----------
>
> It is way worse than that. Speech codes abound, especially on college
> campuses. Once they are indoctrinated, speech codes will become more
> plentiful.
>
> Remember this. I won't be permitted to say it in a couple years.

Will you be signing on to censor posters here?

On 9/16/2015 6:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
>>> On 9/15/2015 6:56 PM, gtr wrote:
>>> > On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi folks,
>>> >>
>>> >> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org
>>> because >> all
>>> >> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also >>
>>> pretending
>>> >> there to come from valid addresses.
>>> >>
>>> >> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
>>> >> actually needs help.
>>> >>
>>> >> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
>>> >> away.
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the
>>> > full
>>> > headers of the post:
>>> >
>>> > ";
>>> >
>>> > It might have some effect.
>>>
>>> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
>>> would not be such a loser.
>>
>> The American ideal of free speech pertains to government restriction
>> on speech. It doesn't mean that we have to listen to everything
>> that comes out of your piehole.
>
> LOL
>

You simpering beef-witted servile subject of the Unfree Kingdom.

On 9/16/2015 10:12 AM, William wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > wrote:
>
>> What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too) has free speech? Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified and labeled as anti-American. In addition, any reference criticizing internal security can result in summary detention without due process. This gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.
>
> Well helpful person, perhaps you should go to Cuba and see what free
> speech gets you...better yet...try North Korea
>
>
> William
>

Ayup!

On 9/16/2015 10:45 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 12:13:16 PM UTC-4, BigC300 wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person wrote:
>>
>>> What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too) has free speech? Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified and labeled as anti-American. In addition, any reference criticizing internal security can result in summary detention without due process. This gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.
>>
>> Well helpful person, perhaps you should go to Cuba and see what free
>> speech gets you...better yet...try North Korea
>>
>>
>> William
>
> Thanks for proving my point.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>


He didn't.

You're un-American.

On 9/16/2015 11:30 AM, wrote:

> Cuba is not too bad,

You idiotic socialist ****!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Cuba

Censorship in Cuba is the most intense in the western hemisphere. It has
been reported on extensively and resulted in European Union sanctions
from 2003 to 2008 as well as statements of protest from groups,
governments, and noted individuals.[1][2]

Cuba has ranked low on the Press Freedom Index from Reporters Without
Borders from 2002 when the index was established (134th out of 139)[3]
to the present (167th out of 179 in 2011-2012).[4] In 2006 the Inter
American Press Association reported that "repression against independent
journalists, mistreatment of jailed reporters, and very strict
government surveillance limiting the people’s access to alternative
sources of information are continuing".[5]

Books, newspapers, radio channels, television channels, movies and music
are heavily censored. Clandestine printing is also highly restricted.[6]
The special permits that are required to use the Internet are only
available to selected Cubans and use of the Internet is limited for the
vast majority of Cubans.[7] Mobile phones are quite rare, with most
citizens not having been allowed to use them until quite recently.[8]
Foreign journalists who can work in the country are selected by the
government.[9]

Media is operated under the supervision of the Communist Party's
Department of Revolutionary Orientation, which "develops and coordinates
propaganda strategies".[9]

On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:54:07 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
> On 9/16/2015 4:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
> >> On 9/15/2015 6:56 PM, gtr wrote:
> >>> On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
> >>>> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
> >>>> there to come from valid addresses.
> >>>>
> >>>> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
> >>>> actually needs help.
> >>>>
> >>>> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
> >>>> away.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the full
> >>> headers of the post:
> >>>
> >>> ";
> >>>
> >>> It might have some effect.
> >>
> >> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
> >> would not be such a loser.
> >
> > The American ideal of free speech pertains to government restriction
> > on speech.
>
> No.
>
> It is proscribed in that manner as a legal mechanism to protect ALL free
> speech at the ultimate firewall level.
>
> Do NOT think you can use some grotesquely narrow precept to endorse
> crass censorship.
>
> > It doesn't mean that we have to listen to everything
> > that comes out of your piehole.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> No one said you had to, did they?

Of course not. And you are not required to listen to what
comes out of my piehole.

> Well?????
>
> You have a mouse and a mind, feel free to pass by any and or all of my
> posts if you wish.
>
> But do NOT attempt to censor me.

I don't have the power to censor you, but your ISP certainly does.

> That would be a MASSIVE mistake.
>
> Capisce?

I've made many mistakes in my life. Why should the prospect of
this one be intimidating?

Cindy Hamilton

On 9/16/2015 1:17 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:54:07 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
>> On 9/16/2015 4:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, La Llorona wrote:
>>>> On 9/15/2015 6:56 PM, gtr wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because all
>>>>>> spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also pretending
>>>>>> there to come from valid addresses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
>>>>>> actually needs help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the full
>>>>> headers of the post:
>>>>>
>>>>> ";
>>>>>
>>>>> It might have some effect.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps if you had the American ideal of free speech in your soul you
>>>> would not be such a loser.
>>>
>>> The American ideal of free speech pertains to government restriction
>>> on speech.
>>
>> No.
>>
>> It is proscribed in that manner as a legal mechanism to protect ALL free
>> speech at the ultimate firewall level.
>>
>> Do NOT think you can use some grotesquely narrow precept to endorse
>> crass censorship.
>>
>>> It doesn't mean that we have to listen to everything
>>> that comes out of your piehole.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> No one said you had to, did they?
>
> Of course not. And you are not required to listen to what
> comes out of my piehole.

But I choose to because the insights are often quite sound.

>> Well?????
>>
>> You have a mouse and a mind, feel free to pass by any and or all of my
>> posts if you wish.
>>
>> But do NOT attempt to censor me.
>
> I don't have the power to censor you, but your ISP certainly does.

If you're threatening my ability to maintain my chosen ISP and
consequently my work connectivity you are making a HUGE mistake.

>> That would be a MASSIVE mistake.
>>
>> Capisce?
>
> I've made many mistakes in my life.

And you wish to make more?

> Why should the prospect of
> this one be intimidating?
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Immediate and withering legal action.

Want some?

Bring it.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I've made many mistakes in my life. Why should the prospect of
> this one be intimidating?
>
> Cindy Hamilton

United States, Wisconsin, Madison
On Oldfield Rd, yes?

Sqwertz wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> I've made many mistakes in my life. Why should the prospect of
>> this one be intimidating?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> United States, Wisconsin, Madison
> On Oldfield Rd, yes?
>
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:51:27 -0600, Sqwertz's forger wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> I've made many mistakes in my life. Why should the prospect of
>> this one be intimidating?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> United States, Wisconsin, Madison....

Posting somebody's address under a forged nym just because she said
boo to you. You really have gone off the deep end and are opening up
yourself to prosecution for stalking. You need to start taking your
meds and snap out of it, dude. Complaints to for
starters.

On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 3:52:58 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > I've made many mistakes in my life. Why should the prospect of
> > this one be intimidating?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> United States, Wisconsin, Madison
> On Oldfield Rd, yes?

No. Not even close.

Another Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:44:37 -0700, "taxed and spent"
> wrote:

<snip>

>It is way worse than that. Speech codes abound, especially on college
>campuses.

'Speech codes', from wikipedia:

"A speech code is any rule or regulation that limits, restricts, or
bans speech beyond the strict legal limitations upon freedom of speech
or press found in the legal definitions of harassment, slander, libel,
and fighting words."

>Once they are indoctrinated, speech codes will become more
>plentiful.
>
>Remember this. I won't be permitted to say it in a couple years.

Jesus H Christ... that's just unbelievable.
I suppose it fits in with the 'free speech zones' in the U.S.

'Land of the free', my arse. No shortage of endless rhetoric, but when
put to the test, the U.S is nowhere near as free as most other western
countries.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 09:45:53 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 12:13:16 PM UTC-4, BigC300 wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person wrote:
>>
>> >What makes you think the USA (or do you mean North and South America too) has free speech? Any comments criticizing the government are often vilified and labeled as anti-American. In addition, any reference criticizing internal security can result in summary detention without due process. This gets even worse if one isn't Caucasian.
>>
>> Well helpful person, perhaps you should go to Cuba and see what free
>> speech gets you...better yet...try North Korea
>>
>>
>> William
>
>Thanks for proving my point.

It's amazing that that mentality still exists. Where's the logic in
comparing your own country with the worst countries, instead of all
the other countries out there?

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:53:30 -0500, Usenet Support Personnel
> wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:51:27 -0600, Sqwertz's forger wrote:
>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> I've made many mistakes in my life. Why should the prospect of
>>> this one be intimidating?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> United States, Wisconsin, Madison....
>
>Posting somebody's address under a forged nym just because she said
>boo to you. You really have gone off the deep end and are opening up
>yourself to prosecution for stalking. You need to start taking your
>meds and snap out of it, dude. Complaints to for
>starters.

You DO realise, nym sifting SOCK PUPPET that there is no such thing as
Usenet Support Personnel.

PLONK!! Into my adaptive kill file for YOU!


John Kuthe...

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 16:25:13 -0500, John Kuthe >
wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:53:30 -0500, Usenet Support Personnel
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:51:27 -0600, Sqwertz's forger wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> I've made many mistakes in my life. Why should the prospect of
>>>> this one be intimidating?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> United States, Wisconsin, Madison....
>>
>>Posting somebody's address under a forged nym just because she said
>>boo to you. You really have gone off the deep end and are opening up
>>yourself to prosecution for stalking. You need to start taking your
>>meds and snap out of it, dude. Complaints to for
>>starters.
>
>You DO realise, nym sifting SOCK PUPPET that there is no such thing as
>Usenet Support Personnel.
>
>PLONK!! Into my adaptive kill file for YOU!
>
>
>John Kuthe...

Sigh. There's no helping some people.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 3:52:58 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> I've made many mistakes in my life. Why should the prospect of
>>> this one be intimidating?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> United States, Wisconsin, Madison
>> On Oldfield Rd, yes?
>
> No. Not even close.
>
> Another Cindy Hamilton
>

Blattttttt!!!!!

On 2015-09-16 1:30 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:12:50 -0400, William > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person

>> Well helpful person, perhaps you should go to Cuba and see what free
>> speech gets you...better yet...try North Korea
>>
>>
>> William
>
> Cuba is not too bad, the problem is to get the net is very expensive
> for very little.

For some reason, some Americans are under the impression that they
actually have freedom of speech and that they are the only country that
does. Offhand, I can't think of any western democracy that had anything
like McCarthy's witch hunt on unAmerican activities.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:57:25 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-09-16 1:30 PM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:12:50 -0400, William > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
>
>>> Well helpful person, perhaps you should go to Cuba and see what free
>>> speech gets you...better yet...try North Korea
>>>
>>>
>>> William
>>
>> Cuba is not too bad, the problem is to get the net is very expensive
>> for very little.
>
>For some reason, some Americans are under the impression that they
>actually have freedom of speech and that they are the only country that
>does. Offhand, I can't think of any western democracy that had anything
>like McCarthy's witch hunt on unAmerican activities.

If you dispassionately compare all first-world (and even some 2nd and
3rd world nations), the U.S has more in common with oppressive Islamic
nations than most others. By that I'm alluding to religious extremism,
incarceration rates and restrictions on true freedom of speech. Then
there are things like TSA, and the general thin-skinned over the top
reaction to any form of criticism. You just don't see that in many
other countries.

On 2015-09-16 5:11 PM, Je�us wrote:
>

> 'Land of the free', my arse. No shortage of endless rhetoric, but when
> put to the test, the U.S is nowhere near as free as most other western
> countries.
>


Don't interfere with their illusions.

On 2015-09-16 5:12 PM, Je�us wrote:
>

> It's amazing that that mentality still exists. Where's the logic in
> comparing your own country with the worst countries, instead of all
> the other countries out there?
>


It is sometimes a matter of perception and indoctrination. Some
Americans consider themselves to be free because they can buy coastal
properties and own the beach. I consider myself to be somewhat more free
because I can walk along the shore of our oceans, lakes and rivers
because people can only own the property up to the high water mark.

Freedom of speech? There are a number of Canadian produced TV shows that
have been picked up by American networks but they are heavily censored.
One show in particular is The Trailer Park Boys. When it is aired by a
Canadian broadcaster it is rife with F bombs, but when it is aired by an
American broadcaster it is beep..... beep.... beep.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 18:07:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-09-16 5:11 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>
>> 'Land of the free', my arse. No shortage of endless rhetoric, but when
>> put to the test, the U.S is nowhere near as free as most other western
>> countries.
>>
>
>
>Don't interfere with their illusions.

Sorry.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 18:13:30 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-09-16 5:12 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>
>> It's amazing that that mentality still exists. Where's the logic in
>> comparing your own country with the worst countries, instead of all
>> the other countries out there?
>>
>
>
>It is sometimes a matter of perception and indoctrination. Some
>Americans consider themselves to be free because they can buy coastal
>properties and own the beach. I consider myself to be somewhat more free
>because I can walk along the shore of our oceans, lakes and rivers
>because people can only own the property up to the high water mark.
>
>Freedom of speech? There are a number of Canadian produced TV shows that
>have been picked up by American networks but they are heavily censored.
>One show in particular is The Trailer Park Boys. When it is aired by a
>Canadian broadcaster it is rife with F bombs, but when it is aired by an
>American broadcaster it is beep..... beep.... beep.

I came across that show some years after it first aired. I actually
don't mind it, it might be crude and crass in some ways, but also
funny and in other ways, not too far removed from reality (for some).

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:03:24 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:57:25 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
<snip>

>>For some reason, some Americans are under the impression that they
>>actually have freedom of speech and that they are the only country that
>>does. Offhand, I can't think of any western democracy that had anything
>>like McCarthy's witch hunt on unAmerican activities.
>>
>By and large the Cubans have done fine without association with the
>USA. It is so refreshing not to see McDogs etc. At least they got
>rid of the American Mafia when Castro overturned Battista.

Plus the U.S corporations riding roughshod over Cuba and it's
citizens.

On 2015-09-16 6:51 PM, Je�us wrote:

>> Freedom of speech? There are a number of Canadian produced TV shows that
>> have been picked up by American networks but they are heavily censored.
>> One show in particular is The Trailer Park Boys. When it is aired by a
>> Canadian broadcaster it is rife with F bombs, but when it is aired by an
>> American broadcaster it is beep..... beep.... beep.
>
> I came across that show some years after it first aired. I actually
> don't mind it, it might be crude and crass in some ways, but also
> funny and in other ways, not too far removed from reality (for some).
>

I used to catch bits and pieces of it while channel surfing. Then I
watched an episode and realized how funny it was.

gtr wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2015-09-15 23:26:29 +0000, cshenk said:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Be careful who you 'ban'. I am thinking to ban all aioe.org because
> > all spammers come from there but the 'whatever' persons are also
> > pretending there to come from valid addresses.
> >
> > What we have is a person with a serious mental health issue who
> > actually needs help.
> >
> > To trap it out, we need headers. If you can't turn that on, then go
> > away.
>
> Perhaps if 30 or 40 of us complained to this address, including the
> full headers of the post:
>
> ";
>
> It might have some effect.

Maybe but you need full headers. What i see is some fake messages with
the seeimg email address of a valid member, but posted by another.

One came out from the spammer set, using Sheldon's seeming name and
email but the IP was tracked to Canada. Sheldon does not live in
Canada.

What I am warning of if that you can no longer automatically 'ban'
because the nasty little kids rubbing their puds and thinking they are
superior, are now using real folks addresses to spoof messages any one
of us would ban if you domt read the headers.


Your mail client may not know the difference and ban the real person
(who never sent those messages).

Carol

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