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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 9/21/2015 7:10 AM, wrote: > >>>> >>>> Aren't pigeons also known as squab? >>> >>> Wow! I'm surprised that wiki says that's true. It has been used to >>> refer to all dove and pigeon species. It now generally implies >>> "domesticated pigeons". The "modern squab industry uses 'utility >>> pigeons'". >> >> What on earth is a 'utility' pigeon ? The 'squabs' I can buy in my >> supermarket are actually chickens. >> > > Never saw squab at the supermarket, but the baby chicks are Cornish hens. > I wonder if it is the same thing, different side of the border. In fact chickens are baby/young hens. Well, here anyway:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Bruce" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:35:58 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... >>> On 9/21/2015 7:10 AM, wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Aren't pigeons also known as squab? >>>>> >>>>> Wow! I'm surprised that wiki says that's true. It has been used to >>>>> refer to all dove and pigeon species. It now generally implies >>>>> "domesticated pigeons". The "modern squab industry uses 'utility >>>>> pigeons'". >>>> >>>> What on earth is a 'utility' pigeon ? The 'squabs' I can buy in my >>>> supermarket are actually chickens. >>>> >>> >>> Never saw squab at the supermarket, but the baby chicks are Cornish >>> hens. >>> I wonder if it is the same thing, different side of the border. >> >>In fact chickens are baby/young hens. Well, here anyway:)) > > Really? I thought: > chicken: the animal > rooster: the male > hen: the female (menu with no prices) > chick: the baby > > No? lol To me, chick is just an abbreviation of chicken but who knows, you may be right:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Bruce" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:51:39 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:35:58 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... >>>>> On 9/21/2015 7:10 AM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Aren't pigeons also known as squab? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow! I'm surprised that wiki says that's true. It has been used to >>>>>>> refer to all dove and pigeon species. It now generally implies >>>>>>> "domesticated pigeons". The "modern squab industry uses 'utility >>>>>>> pigeons'". >>>>>> >>>>>> What on earth is a 'utility' pigeon ? The 'squabs' I can buy in my >>>>>> supermarket are actually chickens. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Never saw squab at the supermarket, but the baby chicks are Cornish >>>>> hens. >>>>> I wonder if it is the same thing, different side of the border. >>>> >>>>In fact chickens are baby/young hens. Well, here anyway:)) >>> >>> Really? I thought: >>> chicken: the animal >>> rooster: the male >>> hen: the female (menu with no prices) >>> chick: the baby >>> >>> No? >> >>lol >> >>To me, chick is just an abbreviation of chicken but who knows, you may be >>right:)) > > No, you'd know. I'm just copycatting from native English speaking > people :) I couldn't argue the point:) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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> wrote in message ... > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:33:10 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> > wrote in message . .. >>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:51:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:08:13 -0300, wrote: >>>> >>>>>As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I >>>>>have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the >>>>>idea of eating pigeon :) >>>> >>>>Pigeon is quite good, in a quail kinda way. I occasionally go after >>>>the wild pigeons around here. Very flavoursome, not what I would >>>>regard as 'gamey'... but that's just IMO probably. >>> >>> Quail would seem similar. >> >>I always found pigeon to be very strong, but I was a child when we ate it. >>I haven't been tempted since. > > I liked the pie but haven't had one in years I must admit. I wouldn't > have said they were more fiddly to eat than rabbits, there are little > bones in both. I think if we had pigeons I would have found it > difficult to eat them :) > > Friends raised a steer years ago and that first year he would hang > around at BBQs etc. Two winters later on when I made the comment at > dinner, nice steak, and he said to me, yes that's Moo, I couldn't eat > it anymore :( Why? If it had been raised for food, at least you were not wasting his life and death. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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> wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:20:06 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> > wrote in message . .. >>> >>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:33:10 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> > wrote in message m... >>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:51:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:08:13 -0300, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I >>>>>>>have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the >>>>>>>idea of eating pigeon :) >>>>>> >>>>>>Pigeon is quite good, in a quail kinda way. I occasionally go after >>>>>>the wild pigeons around here. Very flavoursome, not what I would >>>>>>regard as 'gamey'... but that's just IMO probably. >>>>> >>>>> Quail would seem similar. >>>> >>>>I always found pigeon to be very strong, but I was a child when we ate >>>>it. >>>>I haven't been tempted since. >>> >>> I liked the pie but haven't had one in years I must admit. I wouldn't >>> have said they were more fiddly to eat than rabbits, there are little >>> bones in both. I think if we had pigeons I would have found it >>> difficult to eat them :) >>> >>> Friends raised a steer years ago and that first year he would hang >>> around at BBQs etc. Two winters later on when I made the comment at >>> dinner, nice steak, and he said to me, yes that's Moo, I couldn't eat >>> it anymore :( >> >>Why? If it had been raised for food, at least you were not wasting his >>life >>and death. > > Granted but completely two faced in this, I don't want to know the > animal I am eating :( I said to myself at least Moo had a wonderful > life while it lasted, but I still couldn't. Yeah they all laughed at > me and divided up my steak between them :) No, I wouldn't have laughed at you, but I would have thought it at least celebrated his life. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 2015-09-22 9:01 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> An elderly relative who'd been a shepherd all his life, would never eat > lamb. > I know a couple guys who had raised a few sheep and would not eat lamb. They attributed it to the stink of the sheep. They get pretty messy in the back end and have to be cleaned up frequently. My father was raised on a rabbit ranch during the Depression. We never had rabbit at home when I was a kid. |
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On 9/22/2015 5:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > To me, chick is just an abbreviation of chicken but who knows, you may > be right:)) > You might be a cute chick yourself, but it would be sexist and patronizing to say that. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 9/22/2015 5:51 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> > > >> >> To me, chick is just an abbreviation of chicken but who knows, you may >> be right:)) >> > > You might be a cute chick yourself, but it would be sexist and patronizing > to say that. rofl -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 2015-09-22, Dave Smith > wrote:
> sleeping and leaning against the fence of the pig pen. One of the pigs > bit off the end of his ear. I hope it earned the pig everlasting (burp) glory as a food staple. ;) nb |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:43:58 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2015-09-22 8:56 AM, wrote: > >>> Why? If it had been raised for food, at least you were not wasting his life >>> and death. >> >> Granted but completely two faced in this, I don't want to know the >> animal I am eating :( I said to myself at least Moo had a wonderful >> life while it lasted, but I still couldn't. Yeah they all laughed at >> me and divided up my steak between them :) > >Our former next door neighbours had free range chickens for a couple >years. The girls used to come over to our yard and would often show up >around dinner time. First one would appear, then another and there >would soon be a dozen or more. One day the neighbour gave us a couple >dressed birds and that night I was cooking one of them when the hens >made their rounds. I guess they didn't realize that the aroma coming >from the gas grill was one of their sisters being cooked. Chickens don't give a toss about one of their own being dead, or cooked for that matter. They just get on with their tomfowlery. Same with most animals, now that I think of it. |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 12:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:43:58 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>On 2015-09-22 8:56 AM, wrote: >> >>>> Why? If it had been raised for food, at least you were not wasting his life >>>> and death. >>> >>> Granted but completely two faced in this, I don't want to know the >>> animal I am eating :( I said to myself at least Moo had a wonderful >>> life while it lasted, but I still couldn't. Yeah they all laughed at >>> me and divided up my steak between them :) >> >>Our former next door neighbours had free range chickens for a couple >>years. The girls used to come over to our yard and would often show up >>around dinner time. First one would appear, then another and there >>would soon be a dozen or more. One day the neighbour gave us a couple >>dressed birds and that night I was cooking one of them when the hens >>made their rounds. I guess they didn't realize that the aroma coming >>from the gas grill was one of their sisters being cooked. >> >Chickens are inclined to be cannabalistic. When we lived on a poultry >farm if one of the birds got it's leg caught or was disabled in some >way, the rest would peck and eat it right away :( Yep, there's little to no emotional attachment in most animals. Even possums here (not the same animal as in Nth America), supposedly vegetarian... nope. I used to come across a roadkill possum occasionally and see it's partner next to it, thinking the poor thing is devastated at losing it's partner... nope. It took a while but I realised in these cases, the partner was actually eating the dead one. |
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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message ... > On 9/22/2015 8:56 AM, wrote: > >> Granted but completely two faced in this, I don't want to know the >> animal I am eating :( I said to myself at least Moo had a wonderful >> life while it lasted, but I still couldn't. Yeah they all laughed at >> me and divided up my steak between them :) >> > An elderly relative who'd been a shepherd all his life, would never eat > lamb. I didn't eat the ones we hand raised, but I do love lamb. Cheri |
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> wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:01:02 -0400, S Viemeister > > wrote: > >>On 9/22/2015 8:56 AM, wrote: >> >>> Granted but completely two faced in this, I don't want to know the >>> animal I am eating :( I said to myself at least Moo had a wonderful >>> life while it lasted, but I still couldn't. Yeah they all laughed at >>> me and divided up my steak between them :) >>> >>An elderly relative who'd been a shepherd all his life, would never eat >>lamb. > > I can well understand that, maybe doesn't make sense, but it's how it > is. Same here. :) Cheri |
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> wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:43:58 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > >>On 2015-09-22 8:56 AM, wrote: >> >>>> Why? If it had been raised for food, at least you were not wasting his >>>> life >>>> and death. >>> >>> Granted but completely two faced in this, I don't want to know the >>> animal I am eating :( I said to myself at least Moo had a wonderful >>> life while it lasted, but I still couldn't. Yeah they all laughed at >>> me and divided up my steak between them :) >> >>Our former next door neighbours had free range chickens for a couple >>years. The girls used to come over to our yard and would often show up >>around dinner time. First one would appear, then another and there >>would soon be a dozen or more. One day the neighbour gave us a couple >>dressed birds and that night I was cooking one of them when the hens >>made their rounds. I guess they didn't realize that the aroma coming >>from the gas grill was one of their sisters being cooked. >> > Chickens are inclined to be cannabalistic. When we lived on a poultry > farm if one of the birds got it's leg caught or was disabled in some > way, the rest would peck and eat it right away :( Truly, turkeys the same, they would gang up on one that was pecked and had a drop of blood or disability and tear at it. The toms dancing around with their tails fanned even. Cheri |
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> wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 16:10:28 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >> > wrote in message . .. >>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:43:58 -0400, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>On 2015-09-22 8:56 AM, wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Why? If it had been raised for food, at least you were not wasting >>>>>> his >>>>>> life >>>>>> and death. >>>>> >>>>> Granted but completely two faced in this, I don't want to know the >>>>> animal I am eating :( I said to myself at least Moo had a wonderful >>>>> life while it lasted, but I still couldn't. Yeah they all laughed at >>>>> me and divided up my steak between them :) >>>> >>>>Our former next door neighbours had free range chickens for a couple >>>>years. The girls used to come over to our yard and would often show up >>>>around dinner time. First one would appear, then another and there >>>>would soon be a dozen or more. One day the neighbour gave us a couple >>>>dressed birds and that night I was cooking one of them when the hens >>>>made their rounds. I guess they didn't realize that the aroma coming >>>>from the gas grill was one of their sisters being cooked. >>>> >>> Chickens are inclined to be cannabalistic. When we lived on a poultry >>> farm if one of the birds got it's leg caught or was disabled in some >>> way, the rest would peck and eat it right away :( >> >>Truly, turkeys the same, they would gang up on one that was pecked and had >>a >>drop of blood or disability and tear at it. The toms dancing around with >>their tails fanned even. >> >>Cheri > > The farmer used to do turkeys for Xmas and yes, they had bad habits > too. Back then, early 60s, as the time wound down to Xmas I used to > often help with plucking etc. (they had a plucking machine but some > of the more downy feathers didn't get pulled with that) it became > quite hectic to get all birds done but I was 'sheltered' from the > killing. My parents used to let us older kids have a few turkeys around the holidays, we would kill, pluck etc., and sell them to our neighbors for Christmas money. That was a long time ago though, and I don't care to do it now, probably not even legal. :) Cheri |
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> wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 16:08:14 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >> >>"S Viemeister" > wrote in message ... >>> On 9/22/2015 8:56 AM, wrote: >>> >>>> Granted but completely two faced in this, I don't want to know the >>>> animal I am eating :( I said to myself at least Moo had a wonderful >>>> life while it lasted, but I still couldn't. Yeah they all laughed at >>>> me and divided up my steak between them :) >>>> >>> An elderly relative who'd been a shepherd all his life, would never eat >>> lamb. >> >>I didn't eat the ones we hand raised, but I do love lamb. >> >>Cheri > > I can understand that - I also pay a bit more at the supermarket for > the 'humanely treated' poultry and meat. Yes, me too. Cheri |
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On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:30:39 PM UTC-5, an inconveniet truth wrote:
> On 9/20/2015 11:55 AM, wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:55:08 -0400, Dave Smith > > > wrote: > > > >> On 2015-09-20 12:19 PM, l not -l wrote: > >> > >>>> I think it's an acquired taste. > >>>> > >>>> -- Larry > >>> You could substitute pigeon breasts; pigeons are easy to find around here - > >>> a bit of a challenge to catch, but plentiful. > >>> > >> > >> > >> Not hard to catch if you live near a park and pigeons are fed by the > >> regulars. All you need is a bag of crumbs and a net. > > > > Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten > > minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish. > > Like the geese in *Revenge of the Lawn*. http://www.amazon.com/Revenge-Lawn-A.../dp/0395706742 > > You are one sick animal-abusing biotch! > "Biotch"? Are you a dumb teenager? --Bryan |
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On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 3:27:30 PM UTC-5, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-09-20 18:08:08 +0000, said: > > > On 20 Sep 2015 18:00:52 GMT, notbob > wrote: > > > >> On 2015-09-20, > wrote: > >> > >>> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten > >>> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish. > >> > >> Would you mind revealing which park you go to? ;) > >> > >> nb > > > > Haven't done it in years but I would suggest that pigeons that hang > > round shopping centres are pretty verminous. Best meal comes from > > field pigeons, David loved Pigeon Pie. > > I wonder what vermin beset urban pigeons that do not effect field > pigeons, and whether both wouldn't be irrelevant after cooking. I > don't *know* mind you--just wondering. That's exactly the reason that I have never caught one to eat. Heck, even the street bums don't eat them. --Bryan |
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On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 12:56:59 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-09-20, > wrote: > > > don't care for jalapeno anything :) > > I like jalapeno, but despise chipotle (smoked jalapeno). Tastes like > eau de ashtray. ;) > I agree. > > nb --Bryan |
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On 9/21/2015 7:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Any > woman on her wedding night discovers her groom has a quail sized > peepee wouldn't stop laughing all the way to divorce court. Does that even happen anymore? -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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On 2015-09-23 00:47:13 +0000, Cheryl said:
> On 9/21/2015 7:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: >> Any >> woman on her wedding night discovers her groom has a quail sized >> peepee wouldn't stop laughing all the way to divorce court. > > Does that even happen anymore? If you read it on RFC, especially from this guy, how could it not be God's truth?! |
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> wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 16:42:00 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >>> The farmer used to do turkeys for Xmas and yes, they had bad habits >>> too. Back then, early 60s, as the time wound down to Xmas I used to >>> often help with plucking etc. (they had a plucking machine but some >>> of the more downy feathers didn't get pulled with that) it became >>> quite hectic to get all birds done but I was 'sheltered' from the >>> killing. >> >>My parents used to let us older kids have a few turkeys around the >>holidays, >>we would kill, pluck etc., and sell them to our neighbors for Christmas >>money. That was a long time ago though, and I don't care to do it now, >>probably not even legal. :) >> >>Cheri > > There was a man here who used to take chickens and turkeys from local > farmers and see to putting them up for sale. He was stopped last year > by one gov dept or another. Same thing with a woman who had a cow and > sold the milk. I used to take my container and have her fill it. She > was stopped. I wonder what law was used for that. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 8:47:16 PM UTC-4, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/21/2015 7:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: > > Any > > woman on her wedding night discovers her groom has a quail sized > > peepee wouldn't stop laughing all the way to divorce court. > > Does that even happen anymore? A small minority (about 5%) of people wait until marriage, but the vast majority take it for a test drive first. <http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20061219_95_of_americans_have_had_premarital_sex> Cindy Hamilton Cindy Hamilton |
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Gregory Morrow
> wrote: > Yup, another thing I can't abide is Cornish hen, too much work... They're pretty big these days... something like 2 lbs each. -- sf |
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On 9/22/15 5:00 AM, Bruce wrote:
> Really? I thought: > chicken: the animal > rooster: the male > hen: the female (menu with no prices) > chick: the baby > > No? Yes. -- Larry |
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On 9/23/2015 6:14 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 10:04:00 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: > >> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:55:39 -0300, wrote: >> >> >>> There was a man here who used to take chickens and turkeys from local >>> farmers and see to putting them up for sale. He was stopped last year >>> by one gov dept or another. Same thing with a woman who had a cow and >>> sold the milk. I used to take my container and have her fill it. She >>> was stopped. >> >> Now now... you can't have unpasteurised milk - it won't go bad quickly >> enough unless all the good bacteria and enzymes are killed off first. >> Milk should also be denatured by way of pasteurisation and >> homogenisation so as to create far more people with a 'dairy >> intolerance'. >> >> Besides, you need to support the multinational dairy corporations, not >> farmers and smallholders. Have you no decency?!? > > None at all in that line! It was marvellous while it lasted, lovely > Guernsey cow and I was making lots of clotted cream. Didn't someone here buy into a cow so they didn't have to buy the milk? Thereby avoiding the whole issue of legality. nancy |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 07:14:31 -0300, wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 10:04:00 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: > >>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:55:39 -0300, wrote: >> >> >>>There was a man here who used to take chickens and turkeys from local >>>farmers and see to putting them up for sale. He was stopped last year >>>by one gov dept or another. Same thing with a woman who had a cow and >>>sold the milk. I used to take my container and have her fill it. She >>>was stopped. >> >>Now now... you can't have unpasteurised milk - it won't go bad quickly >>enough unless all the good bacteria and enzymes are killed off first. >>Milk should also be denatured by way of pasteurisation and >>homogenisation so as to create far more people with a 'dairy >>intolerance'. >> >>Besides, you need to support the multinational dairy corporations, not >>farmers and smallholders. Have you no decency?!? > >None at all in that line! It was marvellous while it lasted, lovely >Guernsey cow and I was making lots of clotted cream. Yum yum. I get most of my milk and cream from a friend's Dexter cow, quite a different thing to store bought milk. Laws here are just as bad, if not worse than where you are as far as sales of raw milk goes. |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 03:57:49 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:47:13 -0400, Cheryl wrote: > >> On 9/21/2015 7:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: >>> Any >>> woman on her wedding night discovers her groom has a quail sized >>> peepee wouldn't stop laughing all the way to divorce court. >> >> Does that even happen anymore? > >Sheldon's was an arranged marriage. Arranged, or deranged? |
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In article >,
says... > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:01:11 -0700, koko > wrote: > > >On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:55:39 -0300, wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 16:42:00 -0700, "Cheri" > > >>wrote: > >> > >>>> The farmer used to do turkeys for Xmas and yes, they had bad habits > >>>> too. Back then, early 60s, as the time wound down to Xmas I used to > >>>> often help with plucking etc. (they had a plucking machine but some > >>>> of the more downy feathers didn't get pulled with that) it became > >>>> quite hectic to get all birds done but I was 'sheltered' from the > >>>> killing. > >>> > >>>My parents used to let us older kids have a few turkeys around the holidays, > >>>we would kill, pluck etc., and sell them to our neighbors for Christmas > >>>money. That was a long time ago though, and I don't care to do it now, > >>>probably not even legal. :) > >>> > >>>Cheri > >> > >>There was a man here who used to take chickens and turkeys from local > >>farmers and see to putting them up for sale. He was stopped last year > >>by one gov dept or another. Same thing with a woman who had a cow and > >>sold the milk. I used to take my container and have her fill it. She > >>was stopped. > > > >Back in the day, when I was living in New Mexico, I had a heard of > >dairy goats.ll, aregistered, and vet checked. I sold their milk to > >the local health food store but they had to label it pet food in order > >to sell it. > > > >koko > > If someone thought of that here, I'd be first in line to buy it! > Something that made me mad a few years back was a local person who > made yogurt to kill for, it was all I ever purchased. The first yoghurt I ever saw or tasted (back in the 1960's), was home made in old clean jamjars, and sold unrefrigerated in the local healthfood shop. It was so delicious. Janet UK |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:00:34 -0700 (PDT), MisterDiddyWahDiddy
> wrote: > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 12:56:59 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote: > > On 2015-09-20, > wrote: > > > > > don't care for jalapeno anything :) > > > > I like jalapeno, but despise chipotle (smoked jalapeno). Tastes like > > eau de ashtray. ;) > > > I agree. > > While I disagree with the cigarette analogy, I do agree that they are over-smoked and a little goes a LONG way (IMO). In fact, I avoid anything on the menu that says chipotle. Heat, I can take. Smoke, no. I've decided that I wasted my money on buying a dual fuel off-set BBQ last year because I dislike using propane and can't use charcoal unless done in the off set part.(which isn't very large). -- sf |
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