You can wrap just about anything in bacon, and it will taste good.
When you wrap bacon around a dove breast with a slice of jalapeño and
grill it, that, takes it off the chart.

I concocted a marinade/dipping sauce for it. It's wonderful.

http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...ve-breast.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/oca75ql

@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

My Asian inspired Marinade/Dipping Sauce

sauces/dips

1 cup soy sauce
1 cup Water
1 teaspoon minced ginger
1 teaspoon minced garlic
5 tablespoons brown sugar
1-2 tablespoons hoisin sauce
1-2 teaspoons toasted sesame oil

In a medium bowl, combine all the ingredients and mix well.

This recipe is good to use with meat, fish and vegetables.

Notes: koko


** Exported from Now You're Cooking! v5.91 **

koko

koko

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koko wrote:
>
> You can wrap just about anything in bacon, and it will taste good.
> When you wrap bacon around a dove breast with a slice of jalapeño and
> grill it, that, takes it off the chart.
>
> I concocted a marinade/dipping sauce for it. It's wonderful.
>
> http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...ve-breast.html
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/oca75ql

I've saved your marinade recipe and will try it.

Is it just me? Your picture links on the blog don't work. I can't see
what you have there.

G.

koko wrote:
>
> You can wrap just about anything in bacon, and it will taste good.

I tried it with Rice Krispies -- the prep work was a bitch.

-- Larry

koko wrote:
>
> You can wrap just about anything in bacon, and it will taste good.
> When you wrap bacon around a dove breast with a slice of jalapeño and
> grill it, that, takes it off the chart.

I couldn't find dove breasts, so I tried it with Dove Bars.

I think it's an acquired taste.

-- Larry

On 2015-09-20 12:19 PM, l not -l wrote:

>> I think it's an acquired taste.
>>
>> -- Larry
> You could substitute pigeon breasts; pigeons are easy to find around here -
> a bit of a challenge to catch, but plentiful.
>


Not hard to catch if you live near a park and pigeons are fed by the
regulars. All you need is a bag of crumbs and a net.

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 10:55:10 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-09-20 12:19 PM, l not -l wrote:
>
> >> I think it's an acquired taste.
> >>
> >> -- Larry
> > You could substitute pigeon breasts; pigeons are easy to find around here -
> > a bit of a challenge to catch, but plentiful.
> >
>
>
> Not hard to catch if you live near a park and pigeons are fed by the
> regulars. All you need is a bag of crumbs and a net.

Actually, pigeons ARE doves so they will be fine for the recipe.
I have never eaten pigeons but wouldn't hesitate if one were offered
to me. In fact I would rather do so that consume rabbit which
I have retailed many moons ago.
====

On 2015-09-20, Dave Smith > wrote:

> Not hard to catch if you live near a park and pigeons are fed by the
> regulars. All you need is a bag of crumbs and a net.

I once heard that the pigeons that plague big Eastern US cities were
brought over by Frenchmen who wanted pigeon breast eats. We have
those same pigeons out here in the CO Rockies, but they are not in
huge clowds. Usually jes a pair, much like doves, which we also have
a lot of. Unfortunately, the owner's assoc, much like any HOA,
disapproves of killing the local fauna. IOW, lotta bunnies, pigeons,
and doves, but we can't harvest 'em. Besides, it'd be particularly
hard to explain at our Thur pot-luck.

nb

On 2015-09-20 1:12 PM, Roy wrote:

>> Not hard to catch if you live near a park and pigeons are fed by the
>> regulars. All you need is a bag of crumbs and a net.
>
> Actually, pigeons ARE doves so they will be fine for the recipe.

They are in the same family of birds but are different species, sort of
like ducks, geese and swans are in another family of birds. They are
different species.

On 2015-09-20, > wrote:

> don't care for jalapeno anything

I like jalapeno, but despise chipotle (smoked jalapeno). Tastes like
eau de ashtray.

nb

On 2015-09-20, > wrote:

> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.

Would you mind revealing which park you go to?

nb

Gary wrote:
>koko wrote:
>>
>> You can wrap just about anything in bacon, and it will taste good.
>> When you wrap bacon around a dove breast with a slice of jalapeño and
>> grill it, that, takes it off the chart.
>>
>> I concocted a marinade/dipping sauce for it. It's wonderful.
>>
>> http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...ve-breast.html
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/oca75ql
>
>I've saved your marinade recipe and will try it.
>
>Is it just me? Your picture links on the blog don't work. I can't see
>what you have there.

Try tkis:
http://tinyurl.com/oguhp7z

On 9/20/2015 11:55 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:55:08 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-09-20 12:19 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>
>>>> I think it's an acquired taste.
>>>>
>>>> -- Larry
>>> You could substitute pigeon breasts; pigeons are easy to find around here -
>>> a bit of a challenge to catch, but plentiful.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not hard to catch if you live near a park and pigeons are fed by the
>> regulars. All you need is a bag of crumbs and a net.
>
> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.
>


You are one sick animal-abusing biotch!

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On 2015-09-20, > wrote:

> Lol sounds like you REALLY don't like it

I really don't. One of the very few food things I avidly dislike.

I love smoked meats. A sausage/dog/etc is not cooked unless it's
showing some signs of char. Burnt foods are even forgiven. But,
chipotle? Nada. I kinda liked chipotle Tabasco, but even that got
old, real quick. Not real big on any smoked pepper. Like 'em dried,
but not smoked.

nb

On 2015-09-20 17:16:13 +0000, notbob said:

> On 2015-09-20, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> Not hard to catch if you live near a park and pigeons are fed by the
>> regulars. All you need is a bag of crumbs and a net.
>
> I once heard that the pigeons that plague big Eastern US cities were
> brought over by Frenchmen who wanted pigeon breast eats.

That's what I heard, though it seems I head they were north Africans.
In any case pigeon cooked in several ways is a significant dish in
Cairo. We know have two Egyptian restaurants nearby that offer a
stuffed pigeon and stuffed duck; both must be ordered 24 hours in
advance.

On 2015-09-20 18:08:08 +0000, said:

> On 20 Sep 2015 18:00:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-09-20, > wrote:
>>
>>> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
>>> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.
>>
>> Would you mind revealing which park you go to?
>>
>> nb
>
> Haven't done it in years but I would suggest that pigeons that hang
> round shopping centres are pretty verminous. Best meal comes from
> field pigeons, David loved Pigeon Pie.

I wonder what vermin beset urban pigeons that do not effect field
pigeons, and whether both wouldn't be irrelevant after cooking. I
don't *know* mind you--just wondering.

On 2015-09-20 21:36:11 +0000, said:

>> I wonder what vermin beset urban pigeons that do not effect field
>> pigeons, and whether both wouldn't be irrelevant after cooking. I
>> don't *know* mind you--just wondering.
>
> City pigeons are usually full of lice and other pests but mostly they
> eat some pretty ghastly bits and pieces.

I figured that country birds had as many cooties as any, and something
tells me there's some creepy bits to have out in the wilds. Still I
get you're general drift. Maybe wild winged rats by any name is a
little out of my comfort zone.

> Wood pigeons are the ones favoured for eating, at least, by us they were.
>
> Dont forget, capture your own pigeons and then you have to pluck the
> feathers before drawing the carcass.

I think I'll forego the whole thing. After seeing Anthony Bourdain
touring the eateries of Cairo the stuffed pigeon sounded great. The
local Egyptian joints--I don't have quite the confidence in their
sourcing that I might have with a big hotel downtown or something.

On 2015-09-20 4:24 PM, gtr wrote:

> That's what I heard, though it seems I head they were north Africans. In
> any case pigeon cooked in several ways is a significant dish in Cairo.
> We know have two Egyptian restaurants nearby that offer a stuffed pigeon
> and stuffed duck; both must be ordered 24 hours in advance.
>


They can only catch them when the park is empty.

On 2015-09-20 21:52:57 +0000, Dave Smith said:

> On 2015-09-20 4:24 PM, gtr wrote:
>
>> That's what I heard, though it seems I head they were north Africans. In
>> any case pigeon cooked in several ways is a significant dish in Cairo.
>> We know have two Egyptian restaurants nearby that offer a stuffed pigeon
>> and stuffed duck; both must be ordered 24 hours in advance.
>
> They can only catch them when the park is empty.

Actually, just for grins I snooped around. My go-to Butcher can get
quail, rabbit, duck, goose and seemingly everything under the sun--but
it's frozen and from a California farm. I called and I'm surpised to
say they don't cary pigeon.

I snooped out two other places within 8 miles of the house, Dakao and
Baladi Halal Poultry. They have duck, turkey, quail, rabbits, and a
number of varieties of chicken (white, brown black). At Baladi the
pigeons cost $12 or $13 for "a bigger one". They apparently slaughter,
butcher and clean them on premises. I noted one Yelp review that
pointed out they have baby rabbits which are sold for $8 and encourages
readers to "help them find a home". Also another user mentions that
there are baby chicks and ducklings that are "so cute".

I'm not sure I could get with that. "I want that duck, no the other
one with the self-satified look on its bill--yeah that one!" And later
drop it in a crock pot. That would just be a bit much.

An old line of mine when eating really fresh food is "this
[trout/tomato/lamb] was planning its future this afternoon." Suddenly
that line has lost some of its humor.

On 2015-09-20 6:26 PM, gtr wrote:

>
> An old line of mine when eating really fresh food is "this
> [trout/tomato/lamb] was planning its future this afternoon." Suddenly
> that line has lost some of its humor.

There used to be a trout farm about two miles from my house. It used to
be owned by the father of a friend of mine. Later on it was owned by a
guy who ended up being a co-worker. I used to be able to go over there
and get freshly caught and cleaned trout. That is fresh fish ...
without the time and hassle to catch and clean them.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 08:15:32 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>koko wrote:
>>
>> You can wrap just about anything in bacon, and it will taste good.
>> When you wrap bacon around a dove breast with a slice of jalapeño and
>> grill it, that, takes it off the chart.
>>
>> I concocted a marinade/dipping sauce for it. It's wonderful.
>>
>> http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...ve-breast.html
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/oca75ql
>
>I've saved your marinade recipe and will try it.
I hope you like it.
>
>Is it just me? Your picture links on the blog don't work. I can't see
>what you have there.
>
>G.

Sorry you are having trouble with the links. I double check them
before I post , and I just now double checked them and it worked for
me.

koko

--

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James Beard

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 08:42:19 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

>koko wrote:
>>
>> You can wrap just about anything in bacon, and it will taste good.
>
>I tried it with Rice Krispies -- the prep work was a bitch.
>
>-- Larry

Lol, thanks for the heads up Larry, I was going to try that next ;-)

koko

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James Beard

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 08:45:24 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

>koko wrote:
>>
>> You can wrap just about anything in bacon, and it will taste good.
>> When you wrap bacon around a dove breast with a slice of jalapeño and
>> grill it, that, takes it off the chart.
>
>I couldn't find dove breasts, so I tried it with Dove Bars.
>
>I think it's an acquired taste.
>
>-- Larry

That should have tasted like chocolate dipped bacon. I think you
should try it again. ;-)

koko

--

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James Beard

On 20 Sep 2015 18:00:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2015-09-20, > wrote:
>
>> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
>> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.
>
>Would you mind revealing which park you go to?
>
>nb

Aren't pigeons also known as squab?

koko

--

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James Beard

On 2015-09-21 00:23:41 +0000, koko said:

> On 20 Sep 2015 18:00:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-09-20, > wrote:
>>
>>> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
>>> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.
>>
>> Would you mind revealing which park you go to?
>>
>> nb
>
> Aren't pigeons also known as squab?

Wow! I'm surprised that wiki says that's true. It has been used to
refer to all dove and pigeon species. It now generally implies
"domesticated pigeons". The "modern squab industry uses 'utility
pigeons'".

On 9/20/15 12:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> You could substitute pigeon breasts; pigeons are easy to find around
>> here -
>> a bit of a challenge to catch, but plentiful.
>
> Not hard to catch if you live near a park and pigeons are fed by the
> regulars. All you need is a bag of crumbs and a net.

Somebody cue Tom Lehrer's song, "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park"!

-- Larry

On 9/21/2015 1:01 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:26:39 -0700, gtr wrote:
>
>> I snooped out two other places within 8 miles of the house, Dakao and
>> Baladi Halal Poultry. They have duck, turkey, quail, rabbits, and a
>> number of varieties of chicken (white, brown black). At Baladi the
>> pigeons cost $12 or $13 for "a bigger one". They apparently slaughter,
>> butcher and clean them on premises. I noted one Yelp review that
>> pointed out they have baby rabbits which are sold for $8 and encourages
>> readers to "help them find a home". Also another user mentions that
>> there are baby chicks and ducklings that are "so cute".
>
> It would be illegal to slaughter meat/poultry in a retail store.
> Slaughter must take place in a separate, federally inspected facility
> that has a full time inspecter. I think there's an exception for
> under 1,000 birds a year but that's only 3 birds a day. And it still
> has to be a separate facility. It's possible to do it in the same
> building but the cost of keeping both operations completely separate
> would be prohibitive for that hole in the wall place (yes, I looked at
> Yelp and Google Street View ;-)
>
> Also, I'm almost positive you can't sell live animals at a grocery
> store unless you can pass them off as service animals. Maybe they're
> seizure-alert rabbits?
>
> The FBI and Homeland Security probably need to raid that place!
>
> -sw
>

That might be true of mammals, birds, and other "higher" organisms, but
I've been to many Oriental groceries and restaurant that have tanks of
live seafood that you can buy.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:23:41 -0700, koko > wrote:
>
>>On 20 Sep 2015 18:00:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2015-09-20, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
>>>> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.
>>>
>>>Would you mind revealing which park you go to?
>>>
>>>nb
>>
>>Aren't pigeons also known as squab?
>>
>>koko
>
> As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
> have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
> idea of eating pigeon

Not here. Squab is pigeon and sometimes game birds. When I was a child,
my father raced and bred pigeons. Any that didn't perform well went into the
pot To this day I won't eat pigeon.




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Ophelia wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:23:41 -0700, koko > wrote:
> >
> >>On 20 Sep 2015 18:00:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 2015-09-20, > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
> >>>> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.
> >>>
> >>>Would you mind revealing which park you go to?
> >>>
> >>>nb
> >>
> >>Aren't pigeons also known as squab?
> >>
> >>koko
> >
> > As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
> > have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
> > idea of eating pigeon
>
> Not here. Squab is pigeon and sometimes game birds. When I was a child,
> my father raced and bred pigeons. Any that didn't perform well went into the
> pot To this day I won't eat pigeon.


Old Russian folk proverb: "A snipe drowns in its own bog..."


--
Best
Greg

On 2015-09-21, > wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:23:41 -0700, koko > wrote:

>>Aren't pigeons also known as squab?

> As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
> have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
> idea of eating pigeon

How hard can it be?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squab_(food)

nb

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:23:41 -0700, koko > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 20 Sep 2015 18:00:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On 2015-09-20, > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
>> >>>> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.
>> >>>
>> >>>Would you mind revealing which park you go to?
>> >>>
>> >>>nb
>> >>
>> >>Aren't pigeons also known as squab?
>> >>
>> >>koko
>> >
>> > As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
>> > have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
>> > idea of eating pigeon
>>
>> Not here. Squab is pigeon and sometimes game birds. When I was a
>> child,
>> my father raced and bred pigeons. Any that didn't perform well went into
>> the
>> pot To this day I won't eat pigeon.
>
>
> Old Russian folk proverb: "A snipe drowns in its own bog..."

You will need to explain that one
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:08:13 -0300, wrote:

>As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
>have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
>idea of eating pigeon

Pigeon is quite good, in a quail kinda way. I occasionally go after
the wild pigeons around here. Very flavoursome, not what I would
regard as 'gamey'... but that's just IMO probably.

On 2015-09-21, > wrote:

> Quail would seem similar.

I've never had squab or quail, but have taken and prepared wild and
farmed pheasant. I have eaten the little birdies the Vietnamese
prepare in banh mi shops. Seemed smaller than pigeon/quail, but that
was after cooking. Regardless, they were quite tasty.

nb

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:12:07 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:51:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:08:13 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
>>>have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
>>>idea of eating pigeon
>>
>>Pigeon is quite good, in a quail kinda way. I occasionally go after
>>the wild pigeons around here. Very flavoursome, not what I would
>>regard as 'gamey'... but that's just IMO probably.
>
>Quail would seem similar.

Yep, not much meat... but very delicious.

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:24:01 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:12:07 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:51:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:08:13 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>>As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
>>>>have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
>>>>idea of eating pigeon
>>>
>>>Pigeon is quite good, in a quail kinda way. I occasionally go after
>>>the wild pigeons around here. Very flavoursome, not what I would
>>>regard as 'gamey'... but that's just IMO probably.
>>
>>Quail would seem similar.
>
>Yep, not much meat... but very delicious.

Very delicious, that's what everyone says when it costs three times
more per ounce than chicken. I've eaten quail... they're all about
presentation... disgusting greasy mouse-like things with nothing to
eat, the emporer's new clothes of poultry. Dining on quail folks
feign politeness same as when served way over priced hors doovers. I'd
much rather a brace of tube steak. The last time I was served quail I
left them on my plate untouched, not worth struggling to eat. Any
woman on her wedding night discovers her groom has a quail sized
peepee wouldn't stop laughing all the way to divorce court.

On 9/21/2015 7:10 AM, wrote:

>>>
>>> Aren't pigeons also known as squab?
>>
>> Wow! I'm surprised that wiki says that's true. It has been used to
>> refer to all dove and pigeon species. It now generally implies
>> "domesticated pigeons". The "modern squab industry uses 'utility
>> pigeons'".
>
> What on earth is a 'utility' pigeon ? The 'squabs' I can buy in my
> supermarket are actually chickens.
>

Never saw squab at the supermarket, but the baby chicks are Cornish
hens. I wonder if it is the same thing, different side of the border.

Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:24:01 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:12:07 -0300, wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:51:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:08:13 -0300, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
> >>>>have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
> >>>>idea of eating pigeon
> >>>
> >>>Pigeon is quite good, in a quail kinda way. I occasionally go after
> >>>the wild pigeons around here. Very flavoursome, not what I would
> >>>regard as 'gamey'... but that's just IMO probably.
> >>
> >>Quail would seem similar.
> >
> >Yep, not much meat... but very delicious.
>
> Very delicious, that's what everyone says when it costs three times
> more per ounce than chicken. I've eaten quail... they're all about
> presentation... disgusting greasy mouse-like things with nothing to
> eat, the emporer's new clothes of poultry. Dining on quail folks
> feign politeness same as when served way over priced hors doovers. I'd
> much rather a brace of tube steak. The last time I was served quail I
> left them on my plate untouched, not worth struggling to eat. Any
> woman on her wedding night discovers her groom has a quail sized
> peepee wouldn't stop laughing all the way to divorce court.


Yup, another thing I can't abide is Cornish hen, too much work...

--
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Greg

Ophelia wrote:

> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:23:41 -0700, koko > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On 20 Sep 2015 18:00:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On 2015-09-20, > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Soak the grain in alcohol, go to the park, feed pigeons, within ten
> >> >>>> minutes you can pick up however many pigeons you wish.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Would you mind revealing which park you go to?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>nb
> >> >>
> >> >>Aren't pigeons also known as squab?
> >> >>
> >> >>koko
> >> >
> >> > As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
> >> > have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
> >> > idea of eating pigeon
> >>
> >> Not here. Squab is pigeon and sometimes game birds. When I was a
> >> child,
> >> my father raced and bred pigeons. Any that didn't perform well went into
> >> the
> >> pot To this day I won't eat pigeon.
> >
> >
> > Old Russian folk proverb: "A snipe drowns in its own bog..."
>
> You will need to explain that one


I am reading a Nikita Khrushchev biography and that was one of his quips when he was threatening the Allies' presence in West Berlin during the late 50's... ;-)


--
Best
Greg

On 2015-09-21 23:58:27 +0000, Ed Pawlowski said:

> On 9/21/2015 7:10 AM, wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Aren't pigeons also known as squab?
>>>
>>> Wow! I'm surprised that wiki says that's true. It has been used to
>>> refer to all dove and pigeon species. It now generally implies
>>> "domesticated pigeons". The "modern squab industry uses 'utility
>>> pigeons'".
>>
>> What on earth is a 'utility' pigeon ? The 'squabs' I can buy in my
>> supermarket are actually chickens.

Wiki sez:

Utility pigeons are domesticated pigeons bred to be a source of meat
called squab. Squabs have been used as a food by many nations for
centuries. They were bred to breed and grow quickly.[2] Because they
are bred for squab production, conformation to a show standard is
usually deemed unimportant.

Utility pigeons are one of three main breed groupings used by pigeon
fanciers. The other two are Flying/Sporting and Fancy.

The characteristics of utility pigeons of most importance to the
businessperson who is keeping them are rapid growth and high fecundity.

> Never saw squab at the supermarket, but the baby chicks are Cornish
> hens. I wonder if it is the same thing, different side of the border.

Brooklyn1's bullshit du jour regarding quail:

[ I stripped out all the tits and dicks from your post. Look how
little is left! ]

> Very delicious, that's what everyone says when it costs three times
> more per ounce than chicken.

I didn't know what it cost and found it tasty. I guess you'd have a
hard time evaluating flavor with out a receipt in hand.

> I've eaten quail... they're all about presentation...

I've had quail 3 different places. No presentation at all. Another
very blunt point.

> ...disgusting greasy mouse-like things with nothing to eat, the
> emporer's new clothes of poultry.

Same as clams guess: nothing to eat.

> Dining on quail folks feign politeness same as when served way over
> priced hors doovers.

All the folks I was with, in a Mexican, Vietnamese and Indian places,
feigned nothing, there were no appetizers and it was pretty
inexpensive. Do you have any perspective that doesn't first pivot off
of other people's stupidity?

> The last time I was served quail I left them on my plate untouched, not
> worth struggling to eat.

So your evalution of flavor is nil--you didn't eat it. I suppose crab
and lobster are also stupid people/high prices/too hard to eat. Only a
bowl of beans, probably on the floor, your kinda eats.

> Yup, another thing I can't abide is Cornish hen, too much work...

Order the cheapest pizza in town with the cheapest beer--just as good,
and you're the only smart guy that keeps them both in business!

> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:51:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:08:13 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>As I understand it squab are baby chickens of a few weeks old but I
>>>have seen pigeon offered on menus as squab, some don't care for the
>>>idea of eating pigeon
>>
>>Pigeon is quite good, in a quail kinda way. I occasionally go after
>>the wild pigeons around here. Very flavoursome, not what I would
>>regard as 'gamey'... but that's just IMO probably.
>
> Quail would seem similar.

I always found pigeon to be very strong, but I was a child when we ate it.
I haven't been tempted since.

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