On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:28:47 -0700, gtr > wrote:

> That is, I'd like to review NO rfc posts, and only my friends blabber.
> Following this I'd like to see none of their blabber and all of the rfc
> posts. I ran into this before with a jazz musicians group that had
> such high volume that I had to unfollow it altogether to avoid the
> deluge. Seemingly there is no middle ground.

Are you asking if you can keep posts to rfc off your timeline? It can
be done.

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sf

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 23:36:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 12:03:05 PM UTC-7, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-7, BigC300 wrote:
> > > Is this just typical end of summer traffic on RFC? Seems slow with few
> > > postings. I guess things will pick up near Thanksgiving.
> > >
> > > William
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/recfoodcooking/
>
> Seems to be asking me to log into my Facebook account.
>
> I haven't used my FB account since they opened it up to non-.edu
> accounts.

You need to log in through FB first, otherwise you're SOL.

--

sf

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 11:32:25 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> I learned long ago two rules to make shared living work. 1. Pay the
>> rent and utilities ontime, and 2. respect your fellow huousemate and
>> their property.
>
> Those rules work for marriage, too. The second one is the difficult
> one, judging by the divorce rate.

I think the best thing for marriage is that you both laugh a lot and at the
same things) Works for us
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"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
> 95% of it is pure bullsh*t.

LOL I didn't even know what twitter was until recently. I was not
impressed!

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"William" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:05:47 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> In America today Ophelia, people inside homes have hands holding
> Smartphones and eyes focused on Smartphones at all times.
>

I think it is no different here Just watch people walking down the
street, sitting with friends ....

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On 21/09/2015 10:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "William" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:05:47 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> In America today Ophelia, people inside homes have hands holding
>> Smartphones and eyes focused on Smartphones at all times.
>>
>
> I think it is no different here Just watch people walking down the
> street, sitting with friends ....
>
Beautifully summed up he
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/488781365784901140/

Graham

On 9/21/15 8:13 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
> 95% of it is pure bullsh*t.

Well, you know your friends better than we do. 8

Facebook is all about staying in touch with your friends, unless you
choose to use it for more than that..

-- Larry

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 21/09/2015 10:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "William" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:05:47 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In America today Ophelia, people inside homes have hands holding
>>> Smartphones and eyes focused on Smartphones at all times.
>>>
>>
>> I think it is no different here Just watch people walking down the
>> street, sitting with friends ....
>>
> Beautifully summed up he
> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/488781365784901140/

Isn't it just!

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:10:59 +1000, Xeno >
wrote:

>On 21/09/2015 4:06 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I learned long ago two rules to make shared living work. 1. Pay the
>>> rent and utilities ontime, and 2. respect your fellow huousemate and
>>> their property.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> Those are two good rules!
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Only as long as they are reciprocated....

Of course!

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 03:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 11:32:25 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> I learned long ago two rules to make shared living work. 1. Pay the
>> rent and utilities ontime, and 2. respect your fellow huousemate and
>> their property.
>
>Those rules work for marriage, too. The second one is the difficult
>one, judging by the divorce rate.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Both rules seem pretty simple prima facie. It;s when you start trying
to overcomplicate them that you are probably breaking them!! Looking
for rationalizations of why YOU can break them.

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:27:28 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:33:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:17:11 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, and many times you will be granted access. Unless it's what
>>>>>> Facebook calls a "Private" group which is onl;y visible/accessable by
>>>>>> invitation, ostensibly. I'm that Facebook literate from an admin
>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>
>>>>>And therein lies the problem. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheri
>>>>
>>>> What are you talking about? I created a Private Facebook group for my
>>>> shared living arrangement. Invited al my housemates and made everyone
>>>> an admin. I don't want sole control over the group.
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>>Good for you. You having sole control would be frightening. JMO
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> We hardly use it anyway. Me and one other good responsible housemate.
>>
>
>I may have this all wrong because I don't use FB but are you saying you set
>up a group just for you and your housemates so you could all chat to each
>other? Can't you talk face to face if you are all in the same house?

Everyone has different schedules, and no one ever knows if another
will be home for an IRL encounter, so the Facebook Private Group is
kinda like leaving a note for someone else, electronically. In fact
it's EXACTLY like that!

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:53:34 -0400, William > wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:05:47 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>In America today Ophelia, people inside homes have hands holding
>Smartphones and eyes focused on Smartphones at all times.
>
>William

Truedat!! Many times recently I've come into our kitchen and found
Vivian standing in the kitchen peering downwardsd into her little
electrtonic toy. Her smart phone. Another housemate had his laptop
computer on a kiitchen counter last evening to play him music as he
was cooking. Not the best place for a laptop, but it's his laptop, and
if he wants to put it at risk for getting something spilled on it, so
be it!

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:14:56 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:00:39 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>> Yep, and many times you will be granted access. Unless it's what
>> Facebook calls a "Private" group which is onl;y visible/accessable by
>> invitation, ostensibly. I'm that Facebook literate from an admin
>> perspective.
>
>The correct term for a group that you need to be invited to join is
>"secret".

Ah yes, forgive me, a Secret Facebook Group. That is the correct term.

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:14:53 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:42:32 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 13:17:16 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2015-09-20 18:43:19 +0000, Sqwertz said:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:49:40 -0700, gtr wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2015-09-20 16:28:18 +0000, William said:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Is this just typical end of summer traffic on RFC? Seems slow with few
>> >>>> postings. I guess things will pick up near Thanksgiving.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have not yet found anything of value in FaceBook. I don't doubt that
>> >>> there are brief twitter-like exchanges there, and lots of them. But I
>> >>> have not yet found substantive discussion of anything, cooking included.
>> >>
>> >> You must not be looking in the right places.
>> >
>> >Perhaps not. I've searched for "cooking groups" and such and find a
>> >number that are closed groups; perhaps some of these are the "right
>> >places" but inaccessible. Any clues as to how such groups can be found
>> >are appreciated.
>>
>> Closed groups are no inaccessible. You ask for permission to join.
>>
>Yes, they are my favorite type of group. Totally accessible, but
>conversations can't be snooped on by anyone who hasn't joined. I like
>the ones that are closely moderated, with strict rules to follow and
>have had some very nice exchanges with other members via messaging. I
>don't do group chats, but I imagine it could happen if I was
>interested in that sort of thing.

It's not REALLY secret, only by electronic "permissions". Facebook
admins, the NSA and any marginally competent hacker can or already has
access to it. But the general John Q. Public does not.

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-7, BigC300 wrote:
>> Is this just typical end of summer traffic on RFC? Seems slow with few
>> postings. I guess things will pick up near Thanksgiving.
>>
>> William
>
>https://www.facebook.com/groups/recfoodcooking/

I never knew there was a parallel Facebook Group for the RFC Usenet
news group. I just requested permission to be a member!

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 05:13:49 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>95% of it is pure bullsh*t.
>
>N.

Yes, you are correct. It;s all basically the same, just with different
"features". Facebook is nice because it's terribly easy to upload pics
to and share with folks, which is a double edged sword, because then
you have to fiddle with Facebook Permissions to set accessability just
how you want it.

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:04:18 -0300, wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 05:13:49 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:
>
>>I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>>95% of it is pure bullsh*t.
>>
>>N.
>
>I did Twitter at the outset, it was mostly quite witty but add in
>politicians and 'celebrities' etc and like Fools Book, it has gone to
>the dogs.
>
>I heard a review of what sounded like an interesting book. US author,
>many other books, sorry can't remember name, in this book he tracked
>down those who had been shamed for at least a day on social media and
>reported what it had done to their lives. Sounded very good.

I do not do Twitter because I am NOT A TWIT!! Twitter is basically
like email limited to 126 characters, per message. **** that!! If I
want to write a book, Im gonna write a book!

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:26:12 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

>On 9/21/15 8:13 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>> 95% of it is pure bullsh*t.
>
>Well, you know your friends better than we do. 8
>
>Facebook is all about staying in touch with your friends, unless you
>choose to use it for more than that..
>
>-- Larry

Exactly. I first created my Facebook account when I heard that my
nephew who lives in Portland OR was posting pics of his new house and
some renovations he was doing with it.

John Kuthe...

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:00:39 -0500, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, and many times you will be granted access. Unless it's what
>> Facebook calls a "Private" group which is onl;y visible/accessable by
>> invitation, ostensibly. I'm that Facebook literate from an admin
>> perspective.
>
> The correct term for a group that you need to be invited to join is
> "secret".
>
> --
>
> sf

With a nifty handshake as well. ;-)

Cheri

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:34:28 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 22:32:49 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>I learned long ago two rules to make shared living work. 1. Pay the
>>rent and utilities ontime, and 2. respect your fellow huousemate and
>>their property.
>
>You had to learn that?

*I* didn't, I just codified/quoted it in the simpest terms possble.

Seems pretty simple, eh?

John Kuthe...

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:00:39 -0500, John Kuthe >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, and many times you will be granted access. Unless it's what
>>> Facebook calls a "Private" group which is onl;y visible/accessable by
>>> invitation, ostensibly. I'm that Facebook literate from an admin
>>> perspective.
>>
>> The correct term for a group that you need to be invited to join is
>> "secret".
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
> With a nifty handshake as well. ;-)

Standing on one leg and winking?
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On 9/21/2015 2:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote
>> "sf" > wrote
>>> The correct term for a group that you need to be invited to join is
>>> "secret".
>> With a nifty handshake as well. ;-)
>
> Standing on one leg and winking?

Wearing an apron, with one trouser leg rolled up?

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/21/2015 2:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Cheri" > wrote
>>> "sf" > wrote
>>>> The correct term for a group that you need to be invited to join is
>>>> "secret".
>>> With a nifty handshake as well. ;-)
>>
>> Standing on one leg and winking?
>
> Wearing an apron, with one trouser leg rolled up?

Ooh now you are getting on to serious stuff <g>

Ye shouldnee hae mentioned the peeny ...

;-)



--
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:45:36 -0500, John Kuthe >
wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:34:28 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 22:32:49 -0500, John Kuthe >
>>wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>I learned long ago two rules to make shared living work. 1. Pay the
>>>rent and utilities ontime, and 2. respect your fellow huousemate and
>>>their property.
>>
>>You had to learn that?
>
>*I* didn't, I just codified/quoted it in the simpest terms possble.
>
>Seems pretty simple, eh?

The problem is, one can't make any assumptions about you with this
sort of thing.

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:56:49 -0300, wrote:


>
>It is that way in the UK too, only it's much cheaper. In NA we have
>some of the most expensive mobile phone rates, I don't bother having
>data turned on, can't quite figure why I would prefer a tiny screen to
>a nice, large one.

I don't understand it either. It's somewhat ironic that I have IT
qualifications, and use full sized computers all the time - yet the
advent of ipads/smart phones/tablets etc. leaves me cold.

I want a full keyboard, mouse and screen thanks.
And I *don't* want to be connected 24/7 wherever I am, nor do I always
want to be immediately contactable either. If I had a specific use for
one for reasons other than the above, then I'd reconsider.

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 05:13:49 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>95% of it is pure bullsh*t.

It's amazing more people don't recognise that fact.
But that's what you get with the general public (from all
demographics) now on the Internet.

On 9/21/2015 8:56 AM, wrote:

>
> It is that way in the UK too, only it's much cheaper. In NA we have
> some of the most expensive mobile phone rates, I don't bother having
> data turned on, can't quite figure why I would prefer a tiny screen to
> a nice, large one.
>

Same here, but it has its uses, especially if you are traveling. . Want
to check an appointment? Calendar is right with you. Need a hotel? I
use about 15% of my data, but sure is handy at times.

For routine email, web browsing, paying bills, my 24" screen is nice to
have.

On 2015-09-21 5:00 PM, Je�us wrote:

> I don't understand it either. It's somewhat ironic that I have IT
> qualifications, and use full sized computers all the time - yet the
> advent of ipads/smart phones/tablets etc. leaves me cold.
>
> I want a full keyboard, mouse and screen thanks.
> And I *don't* want to be connected 24/7 wherever I am, nor do I always
> want to be immediately contactable either. If I had a specific use for
> one for reasons other than the above, then I'd reconsider.
>


I was alarmed to hear that some companies were moving away from laptops
and desktops because they saw their future in smaller formats like
tablets and smart phones. I figured that everyone already had a lap top
and/or a desk top and were jumping on tablets and iPads as a gimmick. I
bought a tablet for my wife but it was basically as a portable
electronic photo album for her. I use it to play Scrabble. I can't see
it replacing even a laptop.

Larry, I don't need FB to keep in touch...I use a couple old-style "round robin" letters,
email, and the telephone (a landline). Nobody "needs" FB.

N.

On 22/09/2015 2:46 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:27:28 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:33:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:17:11 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, and many times you will be granted access. Unless it's what
>>>>>>> Facebook calls a "Private" group which is onl;y visible/accessable by
>>>>>>> invitation, ostensibly. I'm that Facebook literate from an admin
>>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And therein lies the problem. LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> What are you talking about? I created a Private Facebook group for my
>>>>> shared living arrangement. Invited al my housemates and made everyone
>>>>> an admin. I don't want sole control over the group.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> Good for you. You having sole control would be frightening. JMO
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> We hardly use it anyway. Me and one other good responsible housemate.
>>>
>>
>> I may have this all wrong because I don't use FB but are you saying you set
>> up a group just for you and your housemates so you could all chat to each
>> other? Can't you talk face to face if you are all in the same house?
>
> Everyone has different schedules, and no one ever knows if another
> will be home for an IRL encounter, so the Facebook Private Group is
> kinda like leaving a note for someone else, electronically. In fact
> it's EXACTLY like that!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
A note on a piece of paper placed prominently on the kitchen bench works
for us.

--

Xeno

On 22/09/2015 3:06 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:26:12 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:
>
>> On 9/21/15 8:13 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>>> 95% of it is pure bullsh*t.
>>
>> Well, you know your friends better than we do. 8
>>
>> Facebook is all about staying in touch with your friends, unless you
>> choose to use it for more than that..
>>
>> -- Larry
>
> Exactly. I first created my Facebook account when I heard that my
> nephew who lives in Portland OR was posting pics of his new house and
> some renovations he was doing with it.
>
> John Kuthe...
>
For a similar reason I signed up many moons ago though it was my sister
who kept posting pics with FB links. Might add, I have subsequently
found it useful for catching up with some old friends

--

Xeno

On 22/09/2015 6:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/21/2015 2:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Cheri" > wrote
>>>> "sf" > wrote
>>>>> The correct term for a group that you need to be invited to join is
>>>>> "secret".
>>>> With a nifty handshake as well. ;-)
>>>
>>> Standing on one leg and winking?
>>
>> Wearing an apron, with one trouser leg rolled up?
>
> Ooh now you are getting on to serious stuff <g>
>
> Ye shouldnee hae mentioned the peeny ...
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
It was a very short story! ;-)

--

Xeno

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:13:28 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:00:02 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:56:49 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>It is that way in the UK too, only it's much cheaper. In NA we have
>>>some of the most expensive mobile phone rates, I don't bother having
>>>data turned on, can't quite figure why I would prefer a tiny screen to
>>>a nice, large one.
>>
>>I don't understand it either. It's somewhat ironic that I have IT
>>qualifications, and use full sized computers all the time - yet the
>>advent of ipads/smart phones/tablets etc. leaves me cold.
>>
>>I want a full keyboard, mouse and screen thanks.
>>And I *don't* want to be connected 24/7 wherever I am, nor do I always
>>want to be immediately contactable either. If I had a specific use for
>>one for reasons other than the above, then I'd reconsider.
>
>I just use my phone for phone calls and texting, don't really
>need/want it to do more.

Same for me, with the addition of the camera which I find handy at
times.

On 22/09/2015 7:00 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:56:49 -0300, wrote:
>
>
>>
>> It is that way in the UK too, only it's much cheaper. In NA we have
>> some of the most expensive mobile phone rates, I don't bother having
>> data turned on, can't quite figure why I would prefer a tiny screen to
>> a nice, large one.
>
> I don't understand it either. It's somewhat ironic that I have IT
> qualifications, and use full sized computers all the time - yet the
> advent of ipads/smart phones/tablets etc. leaves me cold.
>
> I want a full keyboard, mouse and screen thanks.
> And I *don't* want to be connected 24/7 wherever I am, nor do I always
> want to be immediately contactable either. If I had a specific use for
> one for reasons other than the above, then I'd reconsider.
>
That's because you're running away from the real world. Obviously
decision making processes, like turning your phone off or, perish the
though, ignoring it, are decisions you cannot successfully make. I use
phones, tablets, laptops or desktops, whichever is best suited to my
needs at any given time and I can, and do, ignore them as and when I see
fit.

--

Xeno

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:42:48 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-09-21 5:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>> I don't understand it either. It's somewhat ironic that I have IT
>> qualifications, and use full sized computers all the time - yet the
>> advent of ipads/smart phones/tablets etc. leaves me cold.
>>
>> I want a full keyboard, mouse and screen thanks.
>> And I *don't* want to be connected 24/7 wherever I am, nor do I always
>> want to be immediately contactable either. If I had a specific use for
>> one for reasons other than the above, then I'd reconsider.
>>
>
>
>I was alarmed to hear that some companies were moving away from laptops
>and desktops because they saw their future in smaller formats like
>tablets and smart phones. I figured that everyone already had a lap top
>and/or a desk top and were jumping on tablets and iPads as a gimmick. I
>bought a tablet for my wife but it was basically as a portable
>electronic photo album for her. I use it to play Scrabble. I can't see
>it replacing even a laptop.

Even with a laptop I'll end up attaching a mouse

I know an awful lot of (not very computer literate) people around here
who have moved away from laptops and desktops to smart phones and
tablets, citing ease of use. I'll never understand that opinion, but
oh well.

On 22/09/2015 7:26 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:05:19 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 05:13:49 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>>> 95% of it is pure bullsh*t.
>>
>> It's amazing more people don't recognise that fact.
>> But that's what you get with the general public (from all
>> demographics) now on the Internet.
>
> Its all in how you use it. People were against computers too once. Now
> look at them.
>
Precisely. We are a society in transition and not everyone can keep up.

--

Xeno

On 22/09/2015 7:42 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-09-21 5:00 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
>> I don't understand it either. It's somewhat ironic that I have IT
>> qualifications, and use full sized computers all the time - yet the
>> advent of ipads/smart phones/tablets etc. leaves me cold.
>>
>> I want a full keyboard, mouse and screen thanks.
>> And I *don't* want to be connected 24/7 wherever I am, nor do I always
>> want to be immediately contactable either. If I had a specific use for
>> one for reasons other than the above, then I'd reconsider.
>>
>
>
> I was alarmed to hear that some companies were moving away from laptops
> and desktops because they saw their future in smaller formats like
> tablets and smart phones. I figured that everyone already had a lap top
> and/or a desk top and were jumping on tablets and iPads as a gimmick. I
> bought a tablet for my wife but it was basically as a portable
> electronic photo album for her. I use it to play Scrabble. I can't see
> it replacing even a laptop.
>
My iPad has effectively replaced my laptop for most things portable. The
iPhone, not so much. I prefer a reasonable screen size. The 10" iPad
gives me that, the iPad mini being a tad too small. The young seem not
to have this issue and i presume it has more to do with visual acuity
than anything else.

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On 22/09/2015 8:17 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:13:04 +1000, Xeno >
> wrote:
>
>> On 22/09/2015 3:06 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:26:12 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/21/15 8:13 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>>>>> 95% of it is pure bullsh*t.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you know your friends better than we do. 8
>>>>
>>>> Facebook is all about staying in touch with your friends, unless you
>>>> choose to use it for more than that..
>>>>
>>>> -- Larry
>>>
>>> Exactly. I first created my Facebook account when I heard that my
>>> nephew who lives in Portland OR was posting pics of his new house and
>>> some renovations he was doing with it.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>> For a similar reason I signed up many moons ago though it was my sister
>> who kept posting pics with FB links. Might add, I have subsequently
>> found it useful for catching up with some old friends
>
> Try doing that with a telephone.
>
I do but I prefer the iPad. Size does matter! ;-)

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Xeno

On 22/09/2015 8:20 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:26:11 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:05:19 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 05:13:49 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>>>> 95% of it is pure bullsh*t.
>>>
>>> It's amazing more people don't recognise that fact.
>>> But that's what you get with the general public (from all
>>> demographics) now on the Internet.
>>
>> Its all in how you use it. People were against computers too once. Now
>> look at them.
>
> I was never against computers - was getting on a bit to learn, but
> did. I think what I dislike about those phones is that they come
> between people and good conversation.
>
> Nobody comes in my place and dares use them, not my kids,
> grandchildren or great grandchildren. Sometimes they don't like it
> but they have to humour me If it's unbearable, then don't come
> here! It was like the fashion for those damn ball caps, not at my
> table. I once heard middle grandson say to youngest grandson, "What
> are you thinking? Get rid of your gum, we're getting in granny's car"
>
>
Good onya!

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Xeno

On 22/09/2015 8:44 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:20:09 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:26:11 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:05:19 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 05:13:49 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't "do" FB, Twitter, or any of those popular media venues.
>>>>> 95% of it is pure bullsh*t.
>>>>
>>>> It's amazing more people don't recognise that fact.
>>>> But that's what you get with the general public (from all
>>>> demographics) now on the Internet.
>>>
>>> Its all in how you use it. People were against computers too once. Now
>>> look at them.
>>
>> I was never against computers - was getting on a bit to learn, but
>> did. I think what I dislike about those phones is that they come
>> between people and good conversation.
>
> Yes, I notice that too. But that's not the phone's fault or Facebook's
> fault, but those people's.
>
I do that too but use the online whitepages.... ;-)

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