For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
be changed.
Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
coincidence.
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:03:36 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:

>For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
>Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
>dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
>be changed.
>Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>coincidence.

Probably made in China now. Cheap Chinese JUNK!! :-(

John Kuthe...

On 9/22/2015 7:03 AM, Mr.E wrote:
> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
> be changed.
> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> coincidence.
>

Many baked things have been cheapened over the years or are made by a
different bakery with consolidation. Have you tried other brands?

We at Thomases for years, but I've discovered Bays in the refrigerated
section and prefer them.

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 10:12:24 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/22/2015 7:03 AM, Mr.E wrote:
> > For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
> > Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
> > dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
> > be changed.
> > Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> > We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> > breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> > coincidence.
> >
>
> Many baked things have been cheapened over the years or are made by a
> different bakery with consolidation. Have you tried other brands?
>
> We at Thomases for years, but I've discovered Bays in the refrigerated
> section and prefer them.

We like Bays, but the store that carries them does not rotate their stock
and we got a moldy package. Check the dates.

Wrote in message:
..
>
> We like Bays, but the store that carries them does not rotate their stock
> and we got a moldy package. Check the dates.
>
I don't get why they keep them in the refrigerated section. I
wouldn't do that with any bread just because of the risk of mold.
Thanks for the tip to check them AND the date.

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On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
> be changed.
> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> coincidence.
> --
> Mr.E

Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I don't know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip

On 9/26/2015 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
>> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
>> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
>> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
>> be changed.
>> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>> coincidence.
>> --
>> Mr.E
>
> Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I don't know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
>
> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
>
Wow, an english muffin made with Poi!

Who knew?

Learned something new again...

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
>> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
>> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
>> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
>> be changed.
>> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>> coincidence.
>> --
>> Mr.E
>
> Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I don't
> know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
>
> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip

Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?



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On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:19:55 AM UTC-10, truth and honor wrote:
> On 9/26/2015 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
> >> be changed.
> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> >> coincidence.
> >> --
> >> Mr.E
> >
> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I don't know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
> >
> > http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
> >
> Wow, an english muffin made with Poi!
>
> Who knew?
>
> Learned something new again...
>
> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---

They would make it with unsold poi which got sour. The Hawaiians love sour poi but sometimes it would get too sour on the shelves so Hawaii Star bakery would have a source of cheap returned poi. The poi and regular muffins would be my favorite. They can jettison the whole wheat muffins into the Pacific...

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:03:29 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:19:55 AM UTC-10, truth and honor wrote:
> > On 9/26/2015 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
> > >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
> > >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
> > >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
> > >> be changed.
> > >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> > >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> > >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> > >> coincidence.
> > >> --
> > >> Mr.E
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I don't know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
> > >
> > > http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
> > >
> > Wow, an english muffin made with Poi!
> >
> > Who knew?
> >
> > Learned something new again...
> >
> > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---
>
> They would make it with unsold poi which got sour. The Hawaiians love sour poi but sometimes it would get too sour on the shelves so Hawaii Star bakery would have a source of cheap returned poi. The poi and regular muffins would be my favorite. They can jettison the whole wheat muffins into the Pacific...

Poi and wallpaper...made for each other IMHO.

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
> >> be changed.
> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> >> coincidence.
> >> --
> >> Mr.E
> >
> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I don't
> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
> >
> > http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
>
> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

I have done that before. The bad part is having to thaw it out so you can toast them. These are semi-split with rods so you have to rip them apart. They are fairly rough and sometimes kinda ugly and lopsided with cornmeal on one side i.e., the look like a product made by hand, not a machine. My guess is that you got some great muffins in England but in the US, most of the stuff is stamped out with cookie cutters or some such nonsense.

http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 10:25:41 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:03:29 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:19:55 AM UTC-10, truth and honor wrote:
> > > On 9/26/2015 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
> > > >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
> > > >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
> > > >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
> > > >> be changed.
> > > >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> > > >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> > > >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> > > >> coincidence.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Mr.E
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I don't know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
> > > >
> > > Wow, an english muffin made with Poi!
> > >
> > > Who knew?
> > >
> > > Learned something new again...
> > >
> > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---
> >
> > They would make it with unsold poi which got sour. The Hawaiians love sour poi but sometimes it would get too sour on the shelves so Hawaii Star bakery would have a source of cheap returned poi. The poi and regular muffins would be my favorite. They can jettison the whole wheat muffins into the Pacific...
>
> Poi and wallpaper...made for each other IMHO.

You'd be singing a different tune if you were raised on the stuff. OTOH, poi might be the perfect baby food.

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/10/31/tr...-of-life..html

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
>> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
>> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had
>> >> gotten
>> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to
>> >> also
>> >> be changed.
>> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>> >> coincidence.
>> >> --
>> >> Mr.E
>> >
>> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I
>> > don't
>> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
>> >
>> > http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
>>
>> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
>
> I have done that before. The bad part is having to thaw it out so you can
> toast them. These are semi-split with rods so you have to rip them apart.
> They are fairly rough and sometimes kinda ugly and lopsided with cornmeal
> on one side i.e., the look like a product made by hand, not a machine. My
> guess is that you got some great muffins in England but in the US, most of
> the stuff is stamped out with cookie cutters or some such nonsense.
>
> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172

That is a shame. Does it matter so much how it looks? Flavour is all

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On 9/26/2015 11:07 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
>>> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the
>>> weekends.
>>> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had
>>> >> gotten
>>> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed
>>> to >> also
>>> >> be changed.
>>> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>>> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>>> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>>> >> coincidence.
>>> >> -- >> Mr.E
>>> >
>>> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I
>>> > don't
>>> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
>>
>> I have done that before. The bad part is having to thaw it out so you
>> can toast them. These are semi-split with rods so you have to rip them
>> apart. They are fairly rough and sometimes kinda ugly and lopsided
>> with cornmeal on one side i.e., the look like a product made by hand,
>> not a machine. My guess is that you got some great muffins in England
>> but in the US, most of the stuff is stamped out with cookie cutters or
>> some such nonsense.
>>
>> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172
>
> That is a shame. Does it matter so much how it looks? Flavour is all
>

The cookie cutter muffins are all symmetrical and even and like a lot of
things that are perfectly shaped - boring. They got these tiny air cells
with a stale, bread texture. The Star muffin has big holes and are
ragged when torn apart. Its got a wonderful chewy texture and some kind
of malted grain taste. It's a totally different product than the others
on the market.

I hesitate calling it an "English" muffin when speaking to someone from
the UK. What do all ya'alls calls it?

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:42:03 PM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> On 9/26/2015 11:07 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "dsi1" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
> >>> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the
> >>> weekends.
> >>> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had
> >>> >> gotten
> >>> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed
> >>> to >> also
> >>> >> be changed.
> >>> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> >>> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> >>> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> >>> >> coincidence.
> >>> >> -- >> Mr.E
> >>> >
> >>> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I
> >>> > don't
> >>> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>

> >> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172
> >
> > That is a shame. Does it matter so much how it looks? Flavour is all
> >
>
> The cookie cutter muffins are all symmetrical and even and like a lot of
> things that are perfectly shaped - boring. They got these tiny air cells
> with a stale, bread texture. The Star muffin has big holes and are
> ragged when torn apart. Its got a wonderful chewy texture and some kind
> of malted grain taste. It's a totally different product than the others
> on the market.
>
> I hesitate calling it an "English" muffin when speaking to someone from
> the UK. What do all ya'alls calls it?

The notion of "English muffins" perplexes the British I have run into,
because no such food currently exists in the UK. They are either a food
that used to be English, or they were mistakenly or randomly called
English here. (The German chocolate cake was not German, but named
after Mr. German's Chocolate company.)

I got in all kinds of misunderstandings back in the day: London Fog
raincoats came from New Jersey, not the UK; Frusen Gladje ice cream was
not from Scandinavia, and so on.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
>>> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the weekends.
>>> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had gotten
>>> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed to also
>>> be changed.
>>> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>>> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>>> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>>> coincidence.
>>> --
>>> Mr.E
>>
>> Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I don't
>> know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
>>
>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
>
> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?

Of course! Those are one kind of bread that I don't mind freezing because
they are served toasted anyway. I just wish I could eat them now. But no.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/26/2015 11:07 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
>>>> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the
>>>> weekends.
>>>> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had
>>>> >> gotten
>>>> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed
>>>> to >> also
>>>> >> be changed.
>>>> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>>>> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>>>> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>>>> >> coincidence.
>>>> >> -- >> Mr.E
>>>> >
>>>> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I
>>>> > don't
>>>> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
>>>
>>> I have done that before. The bad part is having to thaw it out so you
>>> can toast them. These are semi-split with rods so you have to rip them
>>> apart. They are fairly rough and sometimes kinda ugly and lopsided
>>> with cornmeal on one side i.e., the look like a product made by hand,
>>> not a machine. My guess is that you got some great muffins in England
>>> but in the US, most of the stuff is stamped out with cookie cutters or
>>> some such nonsense.
>>>
>>> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172
>>
>> That is a shame. Does it matter so much how it looks? Flavour is all
>>
>
> The cookie cutter muffins are all symmetrical and even and like a lot of
> things that are perfectly shaped - boring. They got these tiny air cells
> with a stale, bread texture. The Star muffin has big holes and are ragged
> when torn apart. Its got a wonderful chewy texture and some kind of malted
> grain taste. It's a totally different product than the others on the
> market.
>
> I hesitate calling it an "English" muffin when speaking to someone from
> the UK. What do all ya'alls calls it?

The ones I see in the shops are sometimes called English muffins, but also
white muffins, breakfast muffins or just muffins. We have sweet muffins
too.

Heh what a very muffin rich nation we are)

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/...=&beginIndex=0

Sweet muffins:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sa...FYHVFAodcZEI9Q




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> wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:42:03 PM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 9/26/2015 11:07 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
>> >>> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the
>> >>> weekends.
>> >>> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had
>> >>> >> gotten
>> >>> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed
>> >>> to >> also
>> >>> >> be changed.
>> >>> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>> >>> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>> >>> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>> >>> >> coincidence.
>> >>> >> -- >> Mr.E
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I
>> >>> > don't
>> >>> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>
>> >> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172
>> >
>> > That is a shame. Does it matter so much how it looks? Flavour is all
>> >
>>
>> The cookie cutter muffins are all symmetrical and even and like a lot of
>> things that are perfectly shaped - boring. They got these tiny air cells
>> with a stale, bread texture. The Star muffin has big holes and are
>> ragged when torn apart. Its got a wonderful chewy texture and some kind
>> of malted grain taste. It's a totally different product than the others
>> on the market.
>>
>> I hesitate calling it an "English" muffin when speaking to someone from
>> the UK. What do all ya'alls calls it?
>
> The notion of "English muffins" perplexes the British I have run into,
> because no such food currently exists in the UK. They are either a food
> that used to be English, or they were mistakenly or randomly called
> English here. (The German chocolate cake was not German, but named
> after Mr. German's Chocolate company.)
>
> I got in all kinds of misunderstandings back in the day: London Fog
> raincoats came from New Jersey, not the UK; Frusen Gladje ice cream was
> not from Scandinavia, and so on.

If you look at the link I posted to MrD, you will see among other things
some 'are' called 'English'.

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On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 3:55:04 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:42:03 PM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> > On 9/26/2015 11:07 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > >>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> > >>> ...
> > >>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
> > >>> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the
> > >>> weekends.
> > >>> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had
> > >>> >> gotten
> > >>> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed
> > >>> to >> also
> > >>> >> be changed.
> > >>> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> > >>> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> > >>> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> > >>> >> coincidence.
> > >>> >> -- >> Mr.E
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I
> > >>> > don't
> > >>> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
>
> > >> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172
> > >
> > > That is a shame. Does it matter so much how it looks? Flavour is all
> > >
> >
> > The cookie cutter muffins are all symmetrical and even and like a lot of
> > things that are perfectly shaped - boring. They got these tiny air cells
> > with a stale, bread texture. The Star muffin has big holes and are
> > ragged when torn apart. Its got a wonderful chewy texture and some kind
> > of malted grain taste. It's a totally different product than the others
> > on the market.
> >
> > I hesitate calling it an "English" muffin when speaking to someone from
> > the UK. What do all ya'alls calls it?
>
> The notion of "English muffins" perplexes the British I have run into,
> because no such food currently exists in the UK. They are either a food
> that used to be English, or they were mistakenly or randomly called
> English here. (The German chocolate cake was not German, but named
> after Mr. German's Chocolate company.)
>
> I got in all kinds of misunderstandings back in the day: London Fog
> raincoats came from New Jersey, not the UK; Frusen Gladje ice cream was
> not from Scandinavia, and so on.

I went to the Boulder dam a few days ago. It's a lot smaller than I had imagined! OTOH, in that narrow gorge, they didn't have to make it long - just high and thick.

We ate at the cafe and ordered a dam burger. It was a lot smaller than I thought it would be! There was some confusion because I ordered the burger with French fries but the guy kept charging me only for the burger. The reason was that fries come with the order. Hee hee, I can't say if that's a common practice in Nevada but it's a good idea in my estimation. Anyway my point is that the way foods are served and named changes greatly on the local. Even in the same country. Every time you go to a new location, you have to learn new local customs and practices.

I'm just glad that some of our beloved practices are catching on in Nevada. Strangely, the place had Hawaiian punch on the self-serve drink fountain. I was also surprised to see a place called "Mochiko Chicken" next to the Trader Joe's that we checked out. These are good things. The Hawaiians just love fruit punch and will guzzle that stuff down with every plate lunch. Of course, we don't call it Hawaiian punch - just fruit punch.

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 10:18:42 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 9/26/2015 11:07 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
> >>>> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the
> >>>> weekends.
> >>>> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had
> >>>> >> gotten
> >>>> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed
> >>>> to >> also
> >>>> >> be changed.
> >>>> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
> >>>> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
> >>>> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
> >>>> >> coincidence.
> >>>> >> -- >> Mr.E
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I
> >>>> > don't
> >>>> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
> >>>
> >>> I have done that before. The bad part is having to thaw it out so you
> >>> can toast them. These are semi-split with rods so you have to rip them
> >>> apart. They are fairly rough and sometimes kinda ugly and lopsided
> >>> with cornmeal on one side i.e., the look like a product made by hand,
> >>> not a machine. My guess is that you got some great muffins in England
> >>> but in the US, most of the stuff is stamped out with cookie cutters or
> >>> some such nonsense.
> >>>
> >>> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172
> >>
> >> That is a shame. Does it matter so much how it looks? Flavour is all
> >>
> >
> > The cookie cutter muffins are all symmetrical and even and like a lot of
> > things that are perfectly shaped - boring. They got these tiny air cells
> > with a stale, bread texture. The Star muffin has big holes and are ragged
> > when torn apart. Its got a wonderful chewy texture and some kind of malted
> > grain taste. It's a totally different product than the others on the
> > market.
> >
> > I hesitate calling it an "English" muffin when speaking to someone from
> > the UK. What do all ya'alls calls it?
>
> The ones I see in the shops are sometimes called English muffins, but also
> white muffins, breakfast muffins or just muffins. We have sweet muffins
> too.
>
> Heh what a very muffin rich nation we are)
>
> http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/...=&beginIndex=0
>
> Sweet muffins:
>
> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sa...FYHVFAodcZEI9Q
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Boy, you guys are into muffins! We like muffins too but what we call muffins are pretty limited. The things we call muffins are pretty much just the sweet ones in your land. You could call them American style muffins. Hee hee.

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 2:21:03 PM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:

> I'm just glad that some of our beloved practices are catching on in Nevada. Strangely, the place had Hawaiian punch on the self-serve drink fountain.. I was also surprised to see a place called "Mochiko Chicken" next to the Trader Joe's that we checked out. These are good things. The Hawaiians just love fruit punch and will guzzle that stuff down with every plate lunch. Of course, we don't call it Hawaiian punch - just fruit punch.

Hawaiian Punch was originally sold here on the mainland as a canned beverage.
With rather pugnacious advertising:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IpU3g-S8Q

"Fruit juicy, Hawaiian Punch!"

I have had plate lunch at a couple of places here. It appears to be the
opposite of the Atkins diet. Rice PLUS elbow macaroni?

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 5:03:47 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 2:21:03 PM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > I'm just glad that some of our beloved practices are catching on in Nevada. Strangely, the place had Hawaiian punch on the self-serve drink fountain. I was also surprised to see a place called "Mochiko Chicken" next to the Trader Joe's that we checked out. These are good things. The Hawaiians just love fruit punch and will guzzle that stuff down with every plate lunch. Of course, we don't call it Hawaiian punch - just fruit punch.
>
> Hawaiian Punch was originally sold here on the mainland as a canned beverage.
> With rather pugnacious advertising:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IpU3g-S8Q
>
> "Fruit juicy, Hawaiian Punch!"
>
> I have had plate lunch at a couple of places here. It appears to be the
> opposite of the Atkins diet. Rice PLUS elbow macaroni?

That is rather shocking. A popular plate is spaghetti with meat sauce, garlic bread, and macaroni salad. Sometimes, you can get a piece of chicken with that.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/macprohawaii/8345596466

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:55:04 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>
> The notion of "English muffins" perplexes the British I have run into,
> because no such food currently exists in the UK. They are either a food
> that used to be English, or they were mistakenly or randomly called
> English here. (The German chocolate cake was not German, but named
> after Mr. German's Chocolate company.)
>
> I got in all kinds of misunderstandings back in the day: London Fog
> raincoats came from New Jersey, not the UK; Frusen Gladje ice cream was
> not from Scandinavia, and so on.

Very true. However, I assume something called a muffin used to exist (by that name). There is an old drinking song that mentions them.

http://www.richardfisher.com

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 2:21:03 PM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> I'm just glad that some of our beloved practices are catching on in
>> Nevada. Strangely, the place had Hawaiian punch on the self-serve drink
>> fountain. I was also surprised to see a place called "Mochiko Chicken"
>> next to the Trader Joe's that we checked out. These are good things. The
>> Hawaiians just love fruit punch and will guzzle that stuff down with
>> every plate lunch. Of course, we don't call it Hawaiian punch - just
>> fruit punch.
>
> Hawaiian Punch was originally sold here on the mainland as a canned
> beverage.
> With rather pugnacious advertising:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IpU3g-S8Q
>
> "Fruit juicy, Hawaiian Punch!"
>
> I have had plate lunch at a couple of places here. It appears to be the
> opposite of the Atkins diet. Rice PLUS elbow macaroni?

Carbs galore <g>



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On the contrary, spamtr....on the new series of The Great British Baking Show,
the bakers were tasked with making what they called English Muffins, and
they looked exactly like the big brand ones you can buy at any supermarket.
They were about the same size, and were baked on a light layer of cornmeal.
All the bakers, all Brits, certainly knew what they were.

N.

On 9/26/2015 5:07 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:03:41 AM UTC-10, Mr.E wrote:
>>> >> For years we have eaten english muffins for breakfast on the
>>> weekends.
>>> >> Several weeks ago we felt that the Publix Sourdough we liked had
>>> >> gotten
>>> >> dry and tasteless. We tried the Publix Originals and they seemed
>>> to >> also
>>> >> be changed.
>>> >> Tried Great Value and Old English with similar results.
>>> >> We now wonder if this is the result of the "trans fat" nannying in
>>> >> breads by the govt or if something else may have changed just by
>>> >> coincidence.
>>> >> -- >> Mr.E
>>> >
>>> > Sorry to hear of your problem. These are the best EM I ever had. I
>>> > don't
>>> > know how they do it. Too bad they go moldy far too easily.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hawaii-...15oz/162828.ip
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you not freeze some and use them as you want?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
>>
>> I have done that before. The bad part is having to thaw it out so you
>> can toast them. These are semi-split with rods so you have to rip them
>> apart. They are fairly rough and sometimes kinda ugly and lopsided
>> with cornmeal on one side i.e., the look like a product made by hand,
>> not a machine. My guess is that you got some great muffins in England
>> but in the US, most of the stuff is stamped out with cookie cutters or
>> some such nonsense.
>>
>> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/page/172
>
> That is a shame. Does it matter so much how it looks? Flavour is all
>
He's making a mountain out of a molehill. It doesn't take long for an
English Muffin or two to thaw out.

Jill

On 9/25/2015 10:11 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> Wrote in message:
> .
>>
>> We like Bays, but the store that carries them does not rotate their stock
>> and we got a moldy package. Check the dates.
>>
>
> I don't get why they keep them in the refrigerated section. I
> wouldn't do that with any bread just because of the risk of mold.
> Thanks for the tip to check them AND the date.
>
I must be seeing different brands. I've never seen English muffins in
the refrigerated section.

Jill

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 11:11:59 PM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
> On the contrary, spamtr....on the new series of The Great British Baking Show,
> the bakers were tasked with making what they called English Muffins, and
> they looked exactly like the big brand ones you can buy at any supermarket.
> They were about the same size, and were baked on a light layer of cornmeal.
> All the bakers, all Brits, certainly knew what they were.
>
> N.

I suspect these English Muffins were either an import from the USA or from obsolete recipes resurrected. All Brits do not know what they are except from knowledge of the USA. Very few Brits know of them as a British food.

http://www.richardfisher.com

Are you kidding? I am not going to argue with an English baking
competition, where the bakers use a recipe from one of the expert judges,
all of whom are Brits.

Your statement that the baking show used USA muffins is ludicrous.

N.

On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 8:31:44 AM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
> Are you kidding? I am not going to argue with an English baking
> competition, where the bakers use a recipe from one of the expert judges,
> all of whom are Brits.
>
> Your statement that the baking show used USA muffins is ludicrous.
>
> N.

Do you live in the UK? If so, where? Muffins are unknown in the south.

http://www.richardfisher.com

In article >,
says...
>
> Are you kidding? I am not going to argue with an English baking
> competition, where the bakers use a recipe from one of the expert judges,
> all of whom are Brits.

It's a historic recipe. I'd be willing to bet none of the Brit
contestants had ever baked English muffins until they were selected for
the contest; and that is probably the reason the judge chose muffins.

Janet UK

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/25/2015 10:11 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> Wrote in message:
>> .
>>>
>>> We like Bays, but the store that carries them does not rotate their
>>> stock
>>> and we got a moldy package. Check the dates.
>>>
>>
>> I don't get why they keep them in the refrigerated section. I
>> wouldn't do that with any bread just because of the risk of mold.
>> Thanks for the tip to check them AND the date.
>>
> I must be seeing different brands. I've never seen English muffins in the
> refrigerated section.
>
> Jill

I haven't either. Doesn't mean that they're not there but I haven't noticed
if they are.

Cheri

On 9/30/2015 2:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/25/2015 10:11 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> Wrote in message:
>>> .
>>>>
>>>> We like Bays, but the store that carries them does not rotate their
>>>> stock
>>>> and we got a moldy package. Check the dates.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't get why they keep them in the refrigerated section. I
>>> wouldn't do that with any bread just because of the risk of mold.
>>> Thanks for the tip to check them AND the date.
>>>
>> I must be seeing different brands. I've never seen English muffins in
>> the refrigerated section.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I haven't either. Doesn't mean that they're not there but I haven't
> noticed if they are.
>
> Cheri

Like you, I'm not saying it's not out there, just if it is I simply
haven't noticed. Pretty much the only things I look for in the
refrigerated section would be milk, cream, eggs and some cheeses.

Jill

On 2015-09-30 15:37, jmcquown wrote:

>
> Like you, I'm not saying it's not out there, just if it is I simply
> haven't noticed. Pretty much the only things I look for in the
> refrigerated section would be milk, cream, eggs and some cheeses.


This talk about English muffins got me wondering about them. When we
were in California they were served with almost every breakfast we had.
Then I started thinking that, as popular as they were around here I
didn't remember seeing them for sale lately. Then my wife went shopping
the other day she was going to get some and said there were none in the
store.

Dave, you are in Canada, right? My Midwest-based supermarket chain
has about three kinds/brands of English Muffins on a regular basis. They
must sell well here, or there wouldn't be any. Customer demand drives
product availability.

N.

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 8:53:32 AM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
> Customer demand drives
> product availability.
>
> N.

True. However, marketing and availability drives customer demand.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 2015-10-01 8:53 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Dave, you are in Canada, right? My Midwest-based supermarket chain
> has about three kinds/brands of English Muffins on a regular basis. They
> must sell well here, or there wouldn't be any. Customer demand drives
> product availability.
>
Yes I am. Thing is, they used to be very common here and I always saw
them. I occasionally bought a package. When I was in California I
noticed that in breakfast meals that would normally be served with
toast, they served English muffins. That got me thinking that I didn't
remember seeing them in stores here lately. Then my wife confirmed it
the other day when she looked for them and could not find any (in that
store).

Helpful person wrote:
>Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> Customer demand drives product availability.
>
>True. However, marketing and availability drives customer demand.

Only for the first half inning.

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:23:13 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-09-30 15:37, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> Like you, I'm not saying it's not out there, just if it is I simply
>> haven't noticed. Pretty much the only things I look for in the
>> refrigerated section would be milk, cream, eggs and some cheeses.
>
>
>This talk about English muffins got me wondering about them. When we
>were in California they were served with almost every breakfast we had.
> Then I started thinking that, as popular as they were around here I
>didn't remember seeing them for sale lately. Then my wife went shopping
>the other day she was going to get some and said there were none in the
>store.

Burn the British a la Poutine:
http://labanquise.com/en/

From the Freedom Quarter:
http://www.thekitchn.com/breakfast-r...h-toast-170169

On 01/10/2015 7:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-10-01 8:53 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Dave, you are in Canada, right? My Midwest-based supermarket chain
>> has about three kinds/brands of English Muffins on a regular basis. They
>> must sell well here, or there wouldn't be any. Customer demand drives
>> product availability.
>>
> Yes I am. Thing is, they used to be very common here and I always saw
> them. I occasionally bought a package. When I was in California I
> noticed that in breakfast meals that would normally be served with
> toast, they served English muffins. That got me thinking that I didn't
> remember seeing them in stores here lately. Then my wife confirmed it
> the other day when she looked for them and could not find any (in that
> store).
>
I checked in my local s/m today and they are on special, stacked on a
shelf alongside bags of bagels.
Graham