I've got the soaker hose running along the herbs so that when we dig
horseradish later this week we will be able to get it out of the
ground without it breaking off.
I'm still picking tomatoes. I've got probably a 1/2 bushel sitting on
the dining room table waiting for some kind of action. I have the
sage and oregano dried and put away in jars. I hosed off the thyme
today so that I can cut and hang it for drying tomorrow. I got the
last of the beets today and close to the last of the cucumbers.
My husband is out in front poking holes in the front lawn with a
manual aerator prior to putting down gypsum and fertilizer. I still
have to pot up some Hens and Chicks and some Bleeding Heart for
planting next spring. I'll just heel the pots in for the winter. A
fibrous begonia recently had babies and I will pot those up to bring
into the house. The flowers will be welcome for the winter. Now that
we are having much cooler nights, the Christmas Cactus is beginning to
bud up. I'll bring it in just before frost lest it begin to bloom
right away.
It looks like I will continue to plan meals around the garden for a
while yet. Pico de Gallo, Tortilla Chicken soup, Stuffed peppers,
Sicilian pizza, hmmm, what else?
Thanks for listening
Janet US

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 3:36:42 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>
> I've got the soaker hose running along the herbs so that when we dig
> horseradish later this week we will be able to get it out of the
> ground without it breaking off.
> I'm still picking tomatoes. I've got probably a 1/2 bushel sitting on
> the dining room table waiting for some kind of action. I have the
> sage and oregano dried and put away in jars. I hosed off the thyme
> today so that I can cut and hang it for drying tomorrow. I got the
> last of the beets today and close to the last of the cucumbers.
> My husband is out in front poking holes in the front lawn with a
> manual aerator prior to putting down gypsum and fertilizer. I still
> have to pot up some Hens and Chicks and some Bleeding Heart for
> planting next spring. I'll just heel the pots in for the winter. A
> fibrous begonia recently had babies and I will pot those up to bring
> into the house. The flowers will be welcome for the winter. Now that
> we are having much cooler nights, the Christmas Cactus is beginning to
> bud up. I'll bring it in just before frost lest it begin to bloom
> right away.
> It looks like I will continue to plan meals around the garden for a
> while yet. Pico de Gallo, Tortilla Chicken soup, Stuffed peppers,
> Sicilian pizza, hmmm, what else?
> Thanks for listening
> Janet US
>
>
Wow! You have been a busy little girl!

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:36:34 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>
>I've got the soaker hose running along the herbs so that when we dig
>horseradish later this week we will be able to get it out of the
>ground without it breaking off.
>I'm still picking tomatoes. I've got probably a 1/2 bushel sitting on
>the dining room table waiting for some kind of action. I have the
>sage and oregano dried and put away in jars. I hosed off the thyme
>today so that I can cut and hang it for drying tomorrow. I got the
>last of the beets today and close to the last of the cucumbers.
>My husband is out in front poking holes in the front lawn with a
>manual aerator prior to putting down gypsum and fertilizer. I still
>have to pot up some Hens and Chicks and some Bleeding Heart for
>planting next spring. I'll just heel the pots in for the winter. A
>fibrous begonia recently had babies and I will pot those up to bring
>into the house. The flowers will be welcome for the winter. Now that
>we are having much cooler nights, the Christmas Cactus is beginning to
>bud up. I'll bring it in just before frost lest it begin to bloom
>right away.
>It looks like I will continue to plan meals around the garden for a
>while yet. Pico de Gallo, Tortilla Chicken soup, Stuffed peppers,
>Sicilian pizza, hmmm, what else?
>Thanks for listening
>Janet US


We pulled one tomato bed because the deer were after it, and even
though it was still producing, I said, what the hell. I have take one
of the kids' abandoned bedrooms and hung a plant light. I am gonna try
growing a tomato up there.

The deer ate the fibrous begonias last night, too. I am really not
bothered often by deer, but something must be up.

I have a lot of delicate tropicals that have to come in to overwinter.
I am going to try to save a bougainvillea. Wish me a ton of luck on
that.

I will bring in several pots of herbs and keep them in a sunny
location to get me through. I love the fresh stuff, I confess.

We're expecting close to frost this weekend...maybe I can get some
horseradish to sweeten up.

OH, did I tell you I have two fruits on the kefir lime?

On 14/10/2015 4:35 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:36:34 -0600, Janet B >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got the soaker hose running along the herbs so that when we dig
>> horseradish later this week we will be able to get it out of the
>> ground without it breaking off.
>> I'm still picking tomatoes. I've got probably a 1/2 bushel sitting on
>> the dining room table waiting for some kind of action. I have the
>> sage and oregano dried and put away in jars. I hosed off the thyme
>> today so that I can cut and hang it for drying tomorrow. I got the
>> last of the beets today and close to the last of the cucumbers.
>> My husband is out in front poking holes in the front lawn with a
>> manual aerator prior to putting down gypsum and fertilizer. I still
>> have to pot up some Hens and Chicks and some Bleeding Heart for
>> planting next spring. I'll just heel the pots in for the winter. A
>> fibrous begonia recently had babies and I will pot those up to bring
>> into the house. The flowers will be welcome for the winter. Now that
>> we are having much cooler nights, the Christmas Cactus is beginning to
>> bud up. I'll bring it in just before frost lest it begin to bloom
>> right away.
>> It looks like I will continue to plan meals around the garden for a
>> while yet. Pico de Gallo, Tortilla Chicken soup, Stuffed peppers,
>> Sicilian pizza, hmmm, what else?
>> Thanks for listening
>> Janet US
>
>
> We pulled one tomato bed because the deer were after it, and even
> though it was still producing, I said, what the hell. I have take one
> of the kids' abandoned bedrooms and hung a plant light. I am gonna try
> growing a tomato up there.
>
> The deer ate the fibrous begonias last night, too. I am really not
> bothered often by deer, but something must be up.
>
> I have a lot of delicate tropicals that have to come in to overwinter.
> I am going to try to save a bougainvillea. Wish me a ton of luck on
> that.
>
> I will bring in several pots of herbs and keep them in a sunny
> location to get me through. I love the fresh stuff, I confess.
>
> We're expecting close to frost this weekend...maybe I can get some
> horseradish to sweeten up.
>
> OH, did I tell you I have two fruits on the kefir lime?
>
I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
I've also tried thyme, oregano and basil indoors but aphids appear from
nowhere in the middle of our sometimes vicious winter.
Graham

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:

>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.

I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
essential in my roast chicken!

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:07:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
>
>I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
>that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
>essential in my roast chicken!
>
I grow my own mint in summer but have never found an effective way to
keep it, with flavour, through the winter. I like it for mint sauce
and even if I make it into mint sauce, it loses that nice mint flavour
after a few weeks.

I wondered, it's nearly time to cut it now, if perhaps I froze it as
soon as it is made in an ice cube tray, whether it would taste fresher
when unfrozen as needed.

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:11:25 -0300, wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:07:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>>>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>>>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>>>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
>>
>>I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
>>that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
>>essential in my roast chicken!
>>
>I grow my own mint in summer but have never found an effective way to
>keep it, with flavour, through the winter. I like it for mint sauce
>and even if I make it into mint sauce, it loses that nice mint flavour
>after a few weeks.
>
>I wondered, it's nearly time to cut it now, if perhaps I froze it as
>soon as it is made in an ice cube tray, whether it would taste fresher
>when unfrozen as needed.

I await the answer to the mint issue. I have often contemplated
freezing it as I do parsley. (chop it, put it on a tray in the
freezer, package it up when frozen)
Janet US

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:35:48 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:36:34 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I've got the soaker hose running along the herbs so that when we dig
>>horseradish later this week we will be able to get it out of the
>>ground without it breaking off.
>>I'm still picking tomatoes. I've got probably a 1/2 bushel sitting on
>>the dining room table waiting for some kind of action. I have the
>>sage and oregano dried and put away in jars. I hosed off the thyme
>>today so that I can cut and hang it for drying tomorrow. I got the
>>last of the beets today and close to the last of the cucumbers.
>>My husband is out in front poking holes in the front lawn with a
>>manual aerator prior to putting down gypsum and fertilizer. I still
>>have to pot up some Hens and Chicks and some Bleeding Heart for
>>planting next spring. I'll just heel the pots in for the winter. A
>>fibrous begonia recently had babies and I will pot those up to bring
>>into the house. The flowers will be welcome for the winter. Now that
>>we are having much cooler nights, the Christmas Cactus is beginning to
>>bud up. I'll bring it in just before frost lest it begin to bloom
>>right away.
>>It looks like I will continue to plan meals around the garden for a
>>while yet. Pico de Gallo, Tortilla Chicken soup, Stuffed peppers,
>>Sicilian pizza, hmmm, what else?
>>Thanks for listening
>>Janet US
>
>
>We pulled one tomato bed because the deer were after it, and even
>though it was still producing, I said, what the hell. I have take one
>of the kids' abandoned bedrooms and hung a plant light. I am gonna try
>growing a tomato up there.
>
>The deer ate the fibrous begonias last night, too. I am really not
>bothered often by deer, but something must be up.
>
>I have a lot of delicate tropicals that have to come in to overwinter.
>I am going to try to save a bougainvillea. Wish me a ton of luck on
>that.
>
>I will bring in several pots of herbs and keep them in a sunny
>location to get me through. I love the fresh stuff, I confess.
>
>We're expecting close to frost this weekend...maybe I can get some
>horseradish to sweeten up.
>
>OH, did I tell you I have two fruits on the kefir lime?

Let me know how the bougainvillea goes. Sometimes you get lucky and
are never able to produce the same conditions again
My fibrous begonia babies came up under the shelter of the potted
curly parsley so it is safe. I dare not wait until frost for the
horseradish because it could be a hard frost that makes the ground
like rock. Too bad about the tomatoes. My deer is still nibbling
tender foliage of the most fragrant rose. There isn't any way that I
can protect it. I will try chicken wire for this winter and hope that
works.
Janet US

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:32:38 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:11:25 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:07:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>>>>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>>>>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>>>>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
>>>
>>>I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
>>>that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
>>>essential in my roast chicken!
>>>
>>I grow my own mint in summer but have never found an effective way to
>>keep it, with flavour, through the winter. I like it for mint sauce
>>and even if I make it into mint sauce, it loses that nice mint flavour
>>after a few weeks.
>>
>>I wondered, it's nearly time to cut it now, if perhaps I froze it as
>>soon as it is made in an ice cube tray, whether it would taste fresher
>>when unfrozen as needed.
>
>I await the answer to the mint issue. I have often contemplated
>freezing it as I do parsley. (chop it, put it on a tray in the
>freezer, package it up when frozen)
>Janet US

I have tried freezing it unprepared and it loses it's mintyness. I
think I will try actually making the mint sauce, then freezing - I
feel it ought to work because it's holding it suspended in time, but
only one way to find out I guess

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:38:33 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:35:48 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:36:34 -0600, Janet B >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I've got the soaker hose running along the herbs so that when we dig
>>>horseradish later this week we will be able to get it out of the
>>>ground without it breaking off.
>>>I'm still picking tomatoes. I've got probably a 1/2 bushel sitting on
>>>the dining room table waiting for some kind of action. I have the
>>>sage and oregano dried and put away in jars. I hosed off the thyme
>>>today so that I can cut and hang it for drying tomorrow. I got the
>>>last of the beets today and close to the last of the cucumbers.
>>>My husband is out in front poking holes in the front lawn with a
>>>manual aerator prior to putting down gypsum and fertilizer. I still
>>>have to pot up some Hens and Chicks and some Bleeding Heart for
>>>planting next spring. I'll just heel the pots in for the winter. A
>>>fibrous begonia recently had babies and I will pot those up to bring
>>>into the house. The flowers will be welcome for the winter. Now that
>>>we are having much cooler nights, the Christmas Cactus is beginning to
>>>bud up. I'll bring it in just before frost lest it begin to bloom
>>>right away.
>>>It looks like I will continue to plan meals around the garden for a
>>>while yet. Pico de Gallo, Tortilla Chicken soup, Stuffed peppers,
>>>Sicilian pizza, hmmm, what else?
>>>Thanks for listening
>>>Janet US
>>
>>
>>We pulled one tomato bed because the deer were after it, and even
>>though it was still producing, I said, what the hell. I have take one
>>of the kids' abandoned bedrooms and hung a plant light. I am gonna try
>>growing a tomato up there.
>>
>>The deer ate the fibrous begonias last night, too. I am really not
>>bothered often by deer, but something must be up.
>>
>>I have a lot of delicate tropicals that have to come in to overwinter.
>>I am going to try to save a bougainvillea. Wish me a ton of luck on
>>that.
>>
>>I will bring in several pots of herbs and keep them in a sunny
>>location to get me through. I love the fresh stuff, I confess.
>>
>>We're expecting close to frost this weekend...maybe I can get some
>>horseradish to sweeten up.
>>
>>OH, did I tell you I have two fruits on the kefir lime?
>
>Let me know how the bougainvillea goes. Sometimes you get lucky and
>are never able to produce the same conditions again
>My fibrous begonia babies came up under the shelter of the potted
>curly parsley so it is safe. I dare not wait until frost for the
>horseradish because it could be a hard frost that makes the ground
>like rock. Too bad about the tomatoes. My deer is still nibbling
>tender foliage of the most fragrant rose. There isn't any way that I
>can protect it. I will try chicken wire for this winter and hope that
>works.
>Janet US

I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
doing.

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:


>> OH, did I tell you I have two fruits on the kefir lime?
>>
>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.

It is true, oh, so true.


>I've also tried thyme, oregano and basil indoors but aphids appear from
>nowhere in the middle of our sometimes vicious winter.
>Graham

I get aphids, too, and scale, at times. I put the offending plants
into the tub and hose them off, then use Safer insecticidal soap. Most
thing make it, though some look damn scraggly by the following April.

On 2015-10-14 7:57 PM, wrote:

> I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
> Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
> encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
> doing.
>



My wife is pressing me to buy and plant some tulip bulbs. I am thinking
that maybe we should get a cat to hunt the squirrels AKA tree rats that
dig up and eat bulbs.

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:57:03 -0300, wrote:

>>Let me know how the bougainvillea goes. Sometimes you get lucky and
>>are never able to produce the same conditions again
>>My fibrous begonia babies came up under the shelter of the potted
>>curly parsley so it is safe. I dare not wait until frost for the
>>horseradish because it could be a hard frost that makes the ground
>>like rock. Too bad about the tomatoes. My deer is still nibbling
>>tender foliage of the most fragrant rose. There isn't any way that I
>>can protect it. I will try chicken wire for this winter and hope that
>>works.
>>Janet US
>
>I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
>Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
>encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
>doing.

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:57:03 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:38:33 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>>My deer is still nibbling
>>tender foliage of the most fragrant rose. There isn't any way that I
>>can protect it. I will try chicken wire for this winter and hope that
>>works.
>>Janet US
>
>I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
>Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
>encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
>doing.


I plant tulips in the up front tomato bed. When they come up in the
spring. I put angle iron stakes in the corners and run what looks like
chicken wire, but is flexible black plastic. The deer cannot reach
down to the tulips to get them.

Once the tulips are done, I pull'em and give them away or chuck them
($10 for 90 is damn cheap). Then I put the tomatoes in.That same
fencing protects the tomatoes, too, until the plants get so large that
the herd can get to the tips.

On 10/14/2015 10:36 AM, Janet B wrote:
>
> I've got the soaker hose running along the herbs so that when we dig
> horseradish later this week we will be able to get it out of the
> ground without it breaking off.
> I'm still picking tomatoes. I've got probably a 1/2 bushel sitting on
> the dining room table waiting for some kind of action. I have the
> sage and oregano dried and put away in jars. I hosed off the thyme
> today so that I can cut and hang it for drying tomorrow. I got the
> last of the beets today and close to the last of the cucumbers.
> My husband is out in front poking holes in the front lawn with a
> manual aerator prior to putting down gypsum and fertilizer. I still
> have to pot up some Hens and Chicks and some Bleeding Heart for
> planting next spring. I'll just heel the pots in for the winter. A
> fibrous begonia recently had babies and I will pot those up to bring
> into the house. The flowers will be welcome for the winter. Now that
> we are having much cooler nights, the Christmas Cactus is beginning to
> bud up. I'll bring it in just before frost lest it begin to bloom
> right away.
> It looks like I will continue to plan meals around the garden for a
> while yet. Pico de Gallo, Tortilla Chicken soup, Stuffed peppers,
> Sicilian pizza, hmmm, what else?
> Thanks for listening
> Janet US
>

That's quite remarkable. "Busy" sounds like an understatement. Fall, to
me, is an abstract concept since we don't have seasons here. Mostly, we
just have yearly hot months.

It wouldn't matter if we did have a fall season here because plants and
I don't have a simpatico relationship. I don't care for plants cause
they keep dying on me and they don't like me for killing them.

Good luck with all the plants you nurture, although it seems to me that
luck doesn't have much to do with it.

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:38:33 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:35:48 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:36:34 -0600, Janet B >

>>I have a lot of delicate tropicals that have to come in to overwinter.
>>I am going to try to save a bougainvillea. Wish me a ton of luck on
>>that.

>
>Let me know how the bougainvillea goes. Sometimes you get lucky and
>are never able to produce the same conditions again

Yup. Ya never know. I have overwintered a gardenia shaped like a tree
for 3 winters. Maybe this will work, too.


>My fibrous begonia babies came up under the shelter of the potted
>curly parsley so it is safe. I dare not wait until frost for the
>horseradish because it could be a hard frost that makes the ground
>like rock. Too bad about the tomatoes. My deer is still nibbling
>tender foliage of the most fragrant rose. There isn't any way that I
>can protect it. I will try chicken wire for this winter and hope that
>works.
>Janet US

I keep the good roses in the back, which is fenced. If the deer want
the knock-out roses, they can have them.

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:57:03 -0300, wrote:

snip
>
>I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
>Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
>encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
>doing.

So thoughtful of you to keep their safety in mind
Janet US

> wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:07:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>>>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>>>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>>>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
>>
>>I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
>>that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
>>essential in my roast chicken!
>>
> I grow my own mint in summer but have never found an effective way to
> keep it, with flavour, through the winter. I like it for mint sauce
> and even if I make it into mint sauce, it loses that nice mint flavour
> after a few weeks.
>
> I wondered, it's nearly time to cut it now, if perhaps I froze it as
> soon as it is made in an ice cube tray, whether it would taste fresher
> when unfrozen as needed.

I chop it, pack it tight into an ice cube tray and put in a little water to
fill it. Seems to work ok.

--
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:09:56 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:57:03 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:38:33 -0600, Janet B >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>My deer is still nibbling
>>>tender foliage of the most fragrant rose. There isn't any way that I
>>>can protect it. I will try chicken wire for this winter and hope that
>>>works.
>>>Janet US
>>
>>I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
>>Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
>>encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
>>doing.
>
>
>I plant tulips in the up front tomato bed. When they come up in the
>spring. I put angle iron stakes in the corners and run what looks like
>chicken wire, but is flexible black plastic. The deer cannot reach
>down to the tulips to get them.
>
>Once the tulips are done, I pull'em and give them away or chuck them
>($10 for 90 is damn cheap). Then I put the tomatoes in.That same
>fencing protects the tomatoes, too, until the plants get so large that
>the herd can get to the tips.

They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
them!

He tried the old method of tying bags of hair around the garden, waste
of time, however going out at night and peeing in the garden did work,
I suppose an unfamiliar scent threw them. I had some nice hostas that
always had to recover from a good nibbling in the spring, a local man
told me 'We call them deer lettuce' -

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:32:58 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:57:03 -0300, wrote:
>
>snip
>>
>>I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
>>Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
>>encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
>>doing.
>
>So thoughtful of you to keep their safety in mind
>Janet US

I realise they can be pests but here they are coming off starvation
type winters, they just do what they have to in order to eat.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:56:44 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> wrote in message
>news
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:07:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>>>>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>>>>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>>>>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
>>>
>>>I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
>>>that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
>>>essential in my roast chicken!
>>>
>> I grow my own mint in summer but have never found an effective way to
>> keep it, with flavour, through the winter. I like it for mint sauce
>> and even if I make it into mint sauce, it loses that nice mint flavour
>> after a few weeks.
>>
>> I wondered, it's nearly time to cut it now, if perhaps I froze it as
>> soon as it is made in an ice cube tray, whether it would taste fresher
>> when unfrozen as needed.
>
>I chop it, pack it tight into an ice cube tray and put in a little water to
>fill it. Seems to work ok.

Do you mean you just add water to it before freezing? Rather than
mixing with the vinegar etc.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:45:22 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:09:56 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>>
>>Once the tulips are done, I pull'em and give them away or chuck them
>>($10 for 90 is damn cheap). Then I put the tomatoes in.That same
>>fencing protects the tomatoes, too, until the plants get so large that
>>the herd can get to the tips.
>
>They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
>I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
>them!

I'd throttle her. The herds are way to big here and Lyme ticks are
always a threat.
>
>He tried the old method of tying bags of hair around the garden, waste
>of time, however going out at night and peeing in the garden did work,
>I suppose an unfamiliar scent threw them. I had some nice hostas that
>always had to recover from a good nibbling in the spring, a local man
>told me 'We call them deer lettuce' -

They LOVE hostas. Yews, too, for some reason.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:34:02 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:45:22 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:09:56 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Once the tulips are done, I pull'em and give them away or chuck them
>>>($10 for 90 is damn cheap). Then I put the tomatoes in.That same
>>>fencing protects the tomatoes, too, until the plants get so large that
>>>the herd can get to the tips.
>>
>>They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
>>I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
>>them!
>
>I'd throttle her. The herds are way to big here and Lyme ticks are
>always a threat.
>>
>>He tried the old method of tying bags of hair around the garden, waste
>>of time, however going out at night and peeing in the garden did work,
>>I suppose an unfamiliar scent threw them. I had some nice hostas that
>>always had to recover from a good nibbling in the spring, a local man
>>told me 'We call them deer lettuce' -
>
>They LOVE hostas. Yews, too, for some reason.

I am surprised they like Yews, would have thought the taste would be
strong. Lyme ticks weren't a problem then, now they are pretty much
endemic throughout the province.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:34:02 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>>They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
>>I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
>>them!

>I'd throttle her. The herds are way to big here and Lyme ticks are
>always a threat.

Personally I'dve started thinking about venison options a long time
ago.

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On 2015-10-15 7:56 AM, wrote:

>>> They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
>>> I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
>>> them!
>>
>> I'd throttle her. The herds are way to big here and Lyme ticks are
>> always a threat.
>>>
>>> He tried the old method of tying bags of hair around the garden, waste
>>> of time, however going out at night and peeing in the garden did work,
>>> I suppose an unfamiliar scent threw them. I had some nice hostas that
>>> always had to recover from a good nibbling in the spring, a local man
>>> told me 'We call them deer lettuce' -
>>
>> They LOVE hostas. Yews, too, for some reason.
>
> I am surprised they like Yews, would have thought the taste would be
> strong. Lyme ticks weren't a problem then, now they are pretty much
> endemic throughout the province.
>


I have never noticed a problem with Hostas. I Have lots of them in my
front yard. The deer often pass through our yard but don't see any signs
of damage from the dear.

I never saw a tick until about 12 years ago. Over the last few years we
have had to strip down and shake out clothing after being out in the
woods or walking the dog in the fields around our house. AFAIAK they
have all been wood ticks. Gruesome looking creatures.

"Opinicus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:34:02 -0400, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
>
>>>They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
>>>I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
>>>them!
>
>>I'd throttle her. The herds are way to big here and Lyme ticks are
>>always a threat.
>
> Personally I'dve started thinking about venison options a long time
> ago.

That would be my first thought. Are you allowed to shoot them. It does
sound as though they are in a residential area though.


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> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:56:44 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:07:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>>>>>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>>>>>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>>>>>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
>>>>
>>>>I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
>>>>that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
>>>>essential in my roast chicken!
>>>>
>>> I grow my own mint in summer but have never found an effective way to
>>> keep it, with flavour, through the winter. I like it for mint sauce
>>> and even if I make it into mint sauce, it loses that nice mint flavour
>>> after a few weeks.
>>>
>>> I wondered, it's nearly time to cut it now, if perhaps I froze it as
>>> soon as it is made in an ice cube tray, whether it would taste fresher
>>> when unfrozen as needed.
>>
>>I chop it, pack it tight into an ice cube tray and put in a little water
>>to
>>fill it. Seems to work ok.
>
> Do you mean you just add water to it before freezing? Rather than
> mixing with the vinegar etc.

Yes. Remember there is very little water in there. I pack it down tight.
I haven't tried freezing with vinegar. If you do, report back?

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On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:26:27 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Opinicus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:34:02 -0400, Boron Elgar
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
>>>>I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
>>>>them!
>>
>>>I'd throttle her. The herds are way to big here and Lyme ticks are
>>>always a threat.
>>
>> Personally I'dve started thinking about venison options a long time
>> ago.
>
>That would be my first thought. Are you allowed to shoot them. It does
>sound as though they are in a residential area though.

Residential area says no - I remember a tragic case years ago, in
Maine if I remember correctly - where some children were killed in
their own garden because a hunter didn't truly know what the range of
his gun was, idiot.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:26:39 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:56:44 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
> wrote in message
>>>news >>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:07:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because it
>>>>>>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>>>>>>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>>>>>>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
>>>>>that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
>>>>>essential in my roast chicken!
>>>>>
>>>> I grow my own mint in summer but have never found an effective way to
>>>> keep it, with flavour, through the winter. I like it for mint sauce
>>>> and even if I make it into mint sauce, it loses that nice mint flavour
>>>> after a few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> I wondered, it's nearly time to cut it now, if perhaps I froze it as
>>>> soon as it is made in an ice cube tray, whether it would taste fresher
>>>> when unfrozen as needed.
>>>
>>>I chop it, pack it tight into an ice cube tray and put in a little water
>>>to
>>>fill it. Seems to work ok.
>>
>> Do you mean you just add water to it before freezing? Rather than
>> mixing with the vinegar etc.
>
>Yes. Remember there is very little water in there. I pack it down tight.
>I haven't tried freezing with vinegar. If you do, report back?

I'll do some both ways and see what happens.

> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:26:27 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Opinicus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:34:02 -0400, Boron Elgar
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
>>>>>I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
>>>>>them!
>>>
>>>>I'd throttle her. The herds are way to big here and Lyme ticks are
>>>>always a threat.
>>>
>>> Personally I'dve started thinking about venison options a long time
>>> ago.
>>
>>That would be my first thought. Are you allowed to shoot them. It does
>>sound as though they are in a residential area though.
>
> Residential area says no - I remember a tragic case years ago, in
> Maine if I remember correctly - where some children were killed in
> their own garden because a hunter didn't truly know what the range of
> his gun was, idiot.

Idiot indeed


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> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:26:39 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:56:44 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> wrote in message
>>>>news >>>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:07:39 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:46:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I once tried overwintering French tarragon. However, perhaps because
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>benefits from a seasonal die-back, it didn't thrive that well. It's a
>>>>>>>pity because during the summer when I have huge "bushes" of it, the
>>>>>>>weather is too warm to roast chickens stuffed with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've started freezing my herbs, especially tarragon. It might not have
>>>>>>that real fresh taste but it comes pretty close. Tarragon is an
>>>>>>essential in my roast chicken!
>>>>>>
>>>>> I grow my own mint in summer but have never found an effective way to
>>>>> keep it, with flavour, through the winter. I like it for mint sauce
>>>>> and even if I make it into mint sauce, it loses that nice mint flavour
>>>>> after a few weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wondered, it's nearly time to cut it now, if perhaps I froze it as
>>>>> soon as it is made in an ice cube tray, whether it would taste fresher
>>>>> when unfrozen as needed.
>>>>
>>>>I chop it, pack it tight into an ice cube tray and put in a little
>>>>water
>>>>to
>>>>fill it. Seems to work ok.
>>>
>>> Do you mean you just add water to it before freezing? Rather than
>>> mixing with the vinegar etc.
>>
>>Yes. Remember there is very little water in there. I pack it down tight.
>>I haven't tried freezing with vinegar. If you do, report back?
>
> I'll do some both ways and see what happens.

Goodoh



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On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:34:02 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:45:22 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:09:56 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Once the tulips are done, I pull'em and give them away or chuck them
>>>($10 for 90 is damn cheap). Then I put the tomatoes in.That same
>>>fencing protects the tomatoes, too, until the plants get so large that
>>>the herd can get to the tips.
>>
>>They are not too bad here though where I lived before my neighbour and
>>I were persecuted because a woman further up the road was feeding
>>them!
>
>I'd throttle her. The herds are way to big here and Lyme ticks are
>always a threat.
>>
>>He tried the old method of tying bags of hair around the garden, waste
>>of time, however going out at night and peeing in the garden did work,
>>I suppose an unfamiliar scent threw them. I had some nice hostas that
>>always had to recover from a good nibbling in the spring, a local man
>>told me 'We call them deer lettuce' -
>
>They LOVE hostas. Yews, too, for some reason.

they love arbor vitae as well. Around here, folks wrap the bottoms of
vulnerable shrubs in chicken wire.
Janet US

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:59:52 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:32:58 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:57:03 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>snip
>>>
>>>I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
>>>Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
>>>encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
>>>doing.
>>
>>So thoughtful of you to keep their safety in mind
>>Janet US
>
>I realise they can be pests but here they are coming off starvation
>type winters, they just do what they have to in order to eat.

In my area it has been too dry to provide forage up in the hills and
mountains. The animals come down to where there is water and food.
Then they become habituated. The deer in my neighborhood have taken
up residence along the creek. The one buck goes upstream past my
house everyday, crosses the court and enters the backyard of a
neighbor where he dozes all day. Generally he is a polite neighbor.
He's safe here. Once they leave this area of dead end streets they
become traffic casualties.
Janet US

On 2015-10-15 12:10 PM, Janet B wrote:

> In my area it has been too dry to provide forage up in the hills and
> mountains. The animals come down to where there is water and food.
> Then they become habituated. The deer in my neighborhood have taken
> up residence along the creek. The one buck goes upstream past my
> house everyday, crosses the court and enters the backyard of a
> neighbor where he dozes all day. Generally he is a polite neighbor.
> He's safe here. Once they leave this area of dead end streets they
> become traffic casualties.
>

When I was in Pacific Grove last month there were deer roaming through
the parking lot at hour hotel and they were in the parks and cemeteries.
When we were driving along the coast I saw a man walking a German
Shepherd. There were more than a dozen deer nearby and two of them kept
teasing the dog.

When we left there were stopped at the Elkhorn Slough and there were
signs up warning of mountain lion sightings and they suggested that
people not hike alone there.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:56:46 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:34:02 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:45:22 -0300, wrote:
>>

>>>He tried the old method of tying bags of hair around the garden, waste
>>>of time, however going out at night and peeing in the garden did work,
>>>I suppose an unfamiliar scent threw them. I had some nice hostas that
>>>always had to recover from a good nibbling in the spring, a local man
>>>told me 'We call them deer lettuce' -
>>
>>They LOVE hostas. Yews, too, for some reason.
>
>they love arbor vitae as well. Around here, folks wrap the bottoms of
>vulnerable shrubs in chicken wire.
>Janet US

Ha! They never touch arborvitae here! How odd.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-10-15 12:10 PM, Janet B wrote:
>
>> In my area it has been too dry to provide forage up in the hills and
>> mountains. The animals come down to where there is water and food.
>> Then they become habituated. The deer in my neighborhood have taken
>> up residence along the creek. The one buck goes upstream past my
>> house everyday, crosses the court and enters the backyard of a
>> neighbor where he dozes all day. Generally he is a polite neighbor.
>> He's safe here. Once they leave this area of dead end streets they
>> become traffic casualties.
>>
>
>When I was in Pacific Grove last month there were deer roaming through
>the parking lot at hour hotel and they were in the parks and cemeteries.
>When we were driving along the coast I saw a man walking a German
>Shepherd. There were more than a dozen deer nearby and two of them kept
>teasing the dog.
>
>When we left there were stopped at the Elkhorn Slough and there were
>signs up warning of mountain lion sightings and they suggested that
>people not hike alone there.
>
We get mountain lion sightings here in neighborhoods along the
foothills. Schools go into lock down for the day. Fortunately there
have been no confrontations. Just reports of bloody driveways and
pieces of deer lying about. That's a shocker on your way to work in
the morning.
Janet US

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:52:31 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2015-10-15 12:10 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>
>>> In my area it has been too dry to provide forage up in the hills and
>>> mountains. The animals come down to where there is water and food.
>>> Then they become habituated. The deer in my neighborhood have taken
>>> up residence along the creek. The one buck goes upstream past my
>>> house everyday, crosses the court and enters the backyard of a
>>> neighbor where he dozes all day. Generally he is a polite neighbor.
>>> He's safe here. Once they leave this area of dead end streets they
>>> become traffic casualties.
>>>
>>
>>When I was in Pacific Grove last month there were deer roaming through
>>the parking lot at hour hotel and they were in the parks and cemeteries.
>>When we were driving along the coast I saw a man walking a German
>>Shepherd. There were more than a dozen deer nearby and two of them kept
>>teasing the dog.
>>
>>When we left there were stopped at the Elkhorn Slough and there were
>>signs up warning of mountain lion sightings and they suggested that
>>people not hike alone there.
>>
>We get mountain lion sightings here in neighborhoods along the
>foothills. Schools go into lock down for the day. Fortunately there
>have been no confrontations. Just reports of bloody driveways and
>pieces of deer lying about. That's a shocker on your way to work in
>the morning.
>Janet US

We've had several bear problems the last few weeks. Hikers have been
chased by aggressive black bears. It must be a stressful time of year
for the bears. Very sad how some of this turned out..

http://www.northjersey.com/news/stat...orts-1.1432221

On 2015-10-15, Janet B > wrote:

> wrote:

>>When I was in Pacific Grove last month there were deer roaming through
>>the parking lot at hour hotel and they were in the parks and cemeteries.
>>When we were driving along the coast I saw a man walking a German
>>Shepherd. There were more than a dozen deer nearby and two of them kept
>>teasing the dog.

> We get mountain lion sightings here in neighborhoods along the
> foothills. Schools go into lock down for the day. Fortunately there
> have been no confrontations. Just reports of bloody driveways and
> pieces of deer lying about. That's a shocker on your way to work in
> the morning.
> Janet US

Mountain lions are jes following the food supply. Never seen 'em, but
have heard about their local presence. Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1wo6lRmmuQ

We've seen very few deer, this year, probably due to this year's wet
Spring/Summer. Did see a couple bighorn rams and their ewes, though.
That was a first.

nb

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2015-10-15 12:10 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>
>>> In my area it has been too dry to provide forage up in the hills and
>>> mountains. The animals come down to where there is water and food.
>>> Then they become habituated. The deer in my neighborhood have taken
>>> up residence along the creek. The one buck goes upstream past my
>>> house everyday, crosses the court and enters the backyard of a
>>> neighbor where he dozes all day. Generally he is a polite neighbor.
>>> He's safe here. Once they leave this area of dead end streets they
>>> become traffic casualties.
>>>
>>
>>When I was in Pacific Grove last month there were deer roaming through
>>the parking lot at hour hotel and they were in the parks and cemeteries.
>>When we were driving along the coast I saw a man walking a German
>>Shepherd. There were more than a dozen deer nearby and two of them kept
>>teasing the dog.
>>
>>When we left there were stopped at the Elkhorn Slough and there were
>>signs up warning of mountain lion sightings and they suggested that
>>people not hike alone there.
>>
> We get mountain lion sightings here in neighborhoods along the
> foothills. Schools go into lock down for the day. Fortunately there
> have been no confrontations. Just reports of bloody driveways and
> pieces of deer lying about. That's a shocker on your way to work in
> the morning.

That is very frightening!!! May I ask where this happens???

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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:05:09 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-10-14 7:57 PM, wrote:
>
>> I planted bulbs today but all in the daffodil/narcissus variety.
>> Learned years ago that deer love tulips and I have no desire to
>> encourage the deer to cross the road to get to the flower bed I am
>> doing.
>
>My wife is pressing me to buy and plant some tulip bulbs. I am thinking
>that maybe we should get a cat to hunt the squirrels AKA tree rats that
>dig up and eat bulbs.

Since I've encouraged the feral cats to reside here there are zero
squirrels... no moles/voles either. Finally after planting hundreds
of bulbs 12 years ago this year they flowered, the cats made sure
there were no critters chomping as soon as they budded.