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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>>
>> Televangelists like Jim Bakker are basically scam artists who feed on
>> implanting people with fear and profiting off that fear.

>
> Are any religions different...


Yes.

> they're ALL fear mongers...


Nah.

http://www.patheos.com/Library/Confucianism

Thus even without deities and a vision of salvation, Confucianism plays
much the same role as religion does in other cultural contexts.

Confucius said heaven and the afterlife were beyond human capacity to
understand, and one should therefore concentrate instead on doing the
right thing in this life. The earliest records from his students
indicate that he did not provide many moral precepts; rather he taught
an attitude toward one's fellow humans of respect, particularly respect
for one's parents, teachers, and elders. He also encouraged his students
to learn from everyone they encountered and to honor others' cultural
norms.


(Sadly however...)


Later, his teachings would be translated by authoritarian political
philosophers into strict guidelines, and for much of Chinese history
Confucianism would be associated with an immutable hierarchy of
authority and unquestioning obedience.


> yoose think
> mooslim girls ain't ascared of having to choose between having their
> clit nipped off with a pair of rusty dikes or being stoned to death...


Profoundly so!

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On 11/9/2015 2:06 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:27:03 -0600, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 18:21:59 -0500, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/

>>
>> You have to add water before you eat it.

>
> That's a brilliant observation, John!
>
> I want you on my team when the World begins to End.
>
> -sw
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LOL! Sometimes I don't mind seeing what I miss and this is one of those
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On 11/9/2015 11:26 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
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> The food€”which basically only requires the addition of hot water to
> cook€”ends up being like beige slop and red vomit and liquid sludge.
> Lauro described the taste as "paper mache" and "a bathroom at a bar at
> the end of the night in a college town" and "one of the worst thing Ive
> ever eaten in my life" to describe the taste and smell of the food.


Oh yuck. My appetite just went away!

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Sqwertz wrote:
> an Athiest manufacturer



A woman STALKER:

Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

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Cheryl wrote:
> On 11/9/2015 2:06 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:27:03 -0600, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 18:21:59 -0500, Cheryl >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/
>>>
>>> You have to add water before you eat it.

>>
>> That's a brilliant observation, John!
>>
>> I want you on my team when the World begins to End.
>>
>> -sw
>>

> LOL! Sometimes I don't mind seeing what I miss and this is one of those
> times.
>

Why are you conversing with this woman stalker?

Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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On 11/9/2015 8:51 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 11/9/2015 11:26 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>>
>> The food€”which basically only requires the addition of hot water to
>> cook€”ends up being like beige slop and red vomit and liquid sludge.
>> Lauro described the taste as "paper mache" and "a bathroom at a bar at
>> the end of the night in a college town" and "one of the worst thing Ive
>> ever eaten in my life" to describe the taste and smell of the food.

>
> Oh yuck. My appetite just went away!
>

Perhaps it's the start of the latest "diet" food trend.

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On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597

>
> That page doesn't exist.
>

Fixed:
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
> >> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597

> >
> > That page doesn't exist.
> >

> Fixed:
> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077


Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.

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Sqwertz wrote:
> You'll die from lack of water before you die of hunger.



Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
>>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
>>>
>>> That page doesn't exist.
>>>

>> Fixed:
>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077

>
> Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
>


It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up your
own seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too, or
make it on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or
potatoes in a cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery. There's
no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and some
powdered tomato/herb packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices and
some powdered milk/cheese sauce packets.

Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.


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"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
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> On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
>>>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
>>>>
>>>> That page doesn't exist.
>>>>
>>> Fixed:
>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077

>>
>> Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
>>

>
> It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
> stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
> powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up your own
> seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too, or make it
> on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or potatoes in a
> cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery. There's no reason to pay
> hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and some powdered tomato/herb
> packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices and some powdered milk/cheese
> sauce packets.
>
> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds. Just
> plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for about
> one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.


I agree with all that!

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On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:47:16 AM UTC-10, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
> >>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
> >>>
> >>> That page doesn't exist.
> >>>
> >> Fixed:
> >> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077

> >
> > Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
> >

>
> It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
> stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
> powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up your
> own seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too, or
> make it on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or
> potatoes in a cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery. There's
> no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and some
> powdered tomato/herb packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices and
> some powdered milk/cheese sauce packets.
>
> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.


What we need is home irradiation units - one that uses no radioactive materials. We could can our own foods in seconds without pressure cookers. That would be cool.
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"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:47:16 AM UTC-10, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>> On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
>> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
>> >>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
>> >>>
>> >>> That page doesn't exist.
>> >>>
>> >> Fixed:
>> >> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077
>> >
>> > Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
>> >

>>
>> It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
>> stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
>> powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up your
>> own seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too, or
>> make it on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or
>> potatoes in a cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery. There's
>> no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and some
>> powdered tomato/herb packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices and
>> some powdered milk/cheese sauce packets.
>>
>> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
>> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
>> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.

>
> What we need is home irradiation units - one that uses no radioactive
> materials. We could can our own foods in seconds without pressure cookers.
> That would be cool.


You were just born too soon ;-)


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On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:47:11 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
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> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.


If I was saving seeds for the apocalypse, it would be heirloom
varieties because I think they'd have the best chance at making it to
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sf wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:47:11 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
>> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
>> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.

>
> If I was saving seeds for the apocalypse, it would be heirloom
> varieties because I think they'd have the best chance at making it to
> harvest.
>

You're going to need a heckuva big pyramid to store them in ;-)


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On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:07:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:47:16 AM UTC-10, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> >> On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
> >> >>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That page doesn't exist.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Fixed:
> >> >> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077
> >> >
> >> > Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
> >> stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
> >> powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up your
> >> own seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too, or
> >> make it on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or
> >> potatoes in a cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery. There's
> >> no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and some
> >> powdered tomato/herb packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices and
> >> some powdered milk/cheese sauce packets.
> >>
> >> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
> >> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
> >> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.

> >
> > What we need is home irradiation units - one that uses no radioactive
> > materials. We could can our own foods in seconds without pressure cookers.
> > That would be cool.

>
> You were just born too soon ;-)
>
>
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I cannot say if I was born too soon. I probably woke up too early though.

One could make a lead-lined, air-tight, food storage box that would be very power efficient. You put food in it and when you close the door, it blasts the food with X-rays and shuts off. It won't need any power until you open it up again. Who needs a stinkin' refrigerator?
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"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:07:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:47:16 AM UTC-10, Moe DeLoughan
>> > wrote:
>> >> On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
>> >> >>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
>> >> >>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> That page doesn't exist.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> Fixed:
>> >> >> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
>> >> stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
>> >> powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up your
>> >> own seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too, or
>> >> make it on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or
>> >> potatoes in a cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery. There's
>> >> no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and some
>> >> powdered tomato/herb packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices and
>> >> some powdered milk/cheese sauce packets.
>> >>
>> >> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
>> >> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
>> >> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.
>> >
>> > What we need is home irradiation units - one that uses no radioactive
>> > materials. We could can our own foods in seconds without pressure
>> > cookers.
>> > That would be cool.

>>
>> You were just born too soon ;-)
>>

> I cannot say if I was born too soon. I probably woke up too early though.
>
>
> One could make a lead-lined, air-tight, food storage box that would be
> very power efficient. You put food in it and when you close the door, it
> blasts the food with X-rays and shuts off. It won't need any power until
> you open it up again. Who needs a stinkin' refrigerator?


Me? <g>



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On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:43:18 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:07:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:47:16 AM UTC-10, Moe DeLoughan
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
> >> >> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
> >> >> >>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
> >> >> >>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> That page doesn't exist.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> Fixed:
> >> >> >> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
> >> >> stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
> >> >> powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up your
> >> >> own seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too, or
> >> >> make it on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or
> >> >> potatoes in a cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery. There's
> >> >> no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and some
> >> >> powdered tomato/herb packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices and
> >> >> some powdered milk/cheese sauce packets.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
> >> >> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
> >> >> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.
> >> >
> >> > What we need is home irradiation units - one that uses no radioactive
> >> > materials. We could can our own foods in seconds without pressure
> >> > cookers.
> >> > That would be cool.
> >>
> >> You were just born too soon ;-)
> >>

> > I cannot say if I was born too soon. I probably woke up too early though.
> >
> >
> > One could make a lead-lined, air-tight, food storage box that would be
> > very power efficient. You put food in it and when you close the door, it
> > blasts the food with X-rays and shuts off. It won't need any power until
> > you open it up again. Who needs a stinkin' refrigerator?

>
> Me? <g>
>
>
>
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I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it cold. Hee hee.
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> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:43:18 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:07:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:47:16 AM UTC-10, Moe DeLoughan
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> >> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
>> >> >> >>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
>> >> >> >>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> That page doesn't exist.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> Fixed:
>> >> >> >> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
>> >> >> stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
>> >> >> powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> own seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too,
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> make it on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or
>> >> >> potatoes in a cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery.
>> >> >> There's
>> >> >> no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and
>> >> >> some
>> >> >> powdered tomato/herb packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> some powdered milk/cheese sauce packets.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival'
>> >> >> seeds.
>> >> >> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.
>> >> >
>> >> > What we need is home irradiation units - one that uses no
>> >> > radioactive
>> >> > materials. We could can our own foods in seconds without pressure
>> >> > cookers.
>> >> > That would be cool.
>> >>
>> >> You were just born too soon ;-)
>> >>
>> > I cannot say if I was born too soon. I probably woke up too early
>> > though.
>> >
>> >
>> > One could make a lead-lined, air-tight, food storage box that would be
>> > very power efficient. You put food in it and when you close the door,
>> > it
>> > blasts the food with X-rays and shuts off. It won't need any power
>> > until
>> > you open it up again. Who needs a stinkin' refrigerator?

>>
>> Me? <g>
>>

>
> I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it cold. Hee
> hee.


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On 11/10/2015 2:12 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:47:11 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival' seeds.
>> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk for
>> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.

>
> If I was saving seeds for the apocalypse, it would be heirloom
> varieties because I think they'd have the best chance at making it to
> harvest.
>


There's no legal definition of "heirloom seeds", so I'm not sure what
you mean by that. Open pollinated seeds are not hybrids, so they will
breed true from seed kept from year to year. The two basic issues with
such varieties are yield quantity and quality. It generally seems that
if the quality is outstanding, the yield is poor. A lot of the
old-time varieties are very good and good yielders, too, but a lot of
others are not the quality of newer hybrids. People who've never
tasted Golden Bantam sweet corn (one of the original old time sweet
corn varieties) would be in for a shock. Newer varieties are much
sweeter, crisper, better-yielding, and convert their sugar into starch
much more slowly. In short, the sweet corn you are eating now is
nothing at all like your grandparent's sweet corn. - it's a hell of a
lot better.


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> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:43:18 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:07:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:47:16 AM UTC-10, Moe DeLoughan
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> On 11/10/2015 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:45:52 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On 11/9/2015 2:07 PM, sf wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:26:27 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> (Link below for those who want to view the video)
> >> >> >> >>>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...ocalyp-1740597
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> That page doesn't exist.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> Fixed:
> >> >> >> >> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-its-l...lyp-1740597077
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks. I guess it's called "survival" food.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It's also nothing that a person couldn't trick up themselves with
> >> >> >> stockpiled dried vegetables, pasta, potatoes, rice, tomato powder,
> >> >> >> powdered milk and cheese products, and so forth. You could mix up
> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> own seasoning or dried sauce mix ahead of time and store that, too,
> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> make it on an as-needed basis. Honestly, pasta in tomato sauce or
> >> >> >> potatoes in a cheese or sour cream sauce is no brain surgery.
> >> >> >> There's
> >> >> >> no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a bucket of macaroni and
> >> >> >> some
> >> >> >> powdered tomato/herb packets, or a bucket of dried potato slices
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> some powdered milk/cheese sauce packets.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival'
> >> >> >> seeds.
> >> >> >> Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be purchased in bulk
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> about one one-hundredth of the price from actual seed companies.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What we need is home irradiation units - one that uses no
> >> >> > radioactive
> >> >> > materials. We could can our own foods in seconds without pressure
> >> >> > cookers.
> >> >> > That would be cool.
> >> >>
> >> >> You were just born too soon ;-)
> >> >>
> >> > I cannot say if I was born too soon. I probably woke up too early
> >> > though.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > One could make a lead-lined, air-tight, food storage box that would be
> >> > very power efficient. You put food in it and when you close the door,
> >> > it
> >> > blasts the food with X-rays and shuts off. It won't need any power
> >> > until
> >> > you open it up again. Who needs a stinkin' refrigerator?
> >>
> >> Me? <g>
> >>

> >
> > I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it cold. Hee
> > hee.

>
> Ya think?
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Probably not - I just like to imagine it that way. A great thing about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
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> A great thing
> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>


Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.


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On 11/10/2015 12:25 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> A great thing
>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>

>
> Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
> first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
> the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
> leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.
>
>


These are most excellent points. I guess every silver cloud has a black
lining - although, if the lining is sable, that could be rather nice.
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> On 11/10/2015 2:12 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:47:11 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival'
> > > seeds. Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be
> > > purchased in bulk for about one one-hundredth of the price from
> > > actual seed companies.

> >
> > If I was saving seeds for the apocalypse, it would be heirloom
> > varieties because I think they'd have the best chance at making it
> > to harvest.
> >

>
> There's no legal definition of "heirloom seeds", so I'm not sure what
> you mean by that. Open pollinated seeds are not hybrids, so they will
> breed true from seed kept from year to year. The two basic issues
> with such varieties are yield quantity and quality. It generally
> seems that if the quality is outstanding, the yield is poor. A lot of
> the old-time varieties are very good and good yielders, too, but a
> lot of others are not the quality of newer hybrids. People who've
> never tasted Golden Bantam sweet corn (one of the original old time
> sweet corn varieties) would be in for a shock. Newer varieties are
> much sweeter, crisper, better-yielding, and convert their sugar into
> starch much more slowly. In short, the sweet corn you are eating now
> is nothing at all like your grandparent's sweet corn. - it's a hell
> of a lot better.


Depends on what you want. I like the older versions of corn that dont
taste like they've been rolled in sugar. They actually taste like CORN.

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On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
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>On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> A great thing
>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>

>
>Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
>first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
>the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
>leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.


Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?


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>
>>
>> A great thing
>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>

>
> Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
> first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless the
> water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will leave
> your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.


LOL I've never had that happen
>
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>> > I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it cold. Hee
>> > hee.

>>
>> Ya think?
>>

>
> Probably not - I just like to imagine it that way. A great thing about
> those places up North is they have ice water coming out of the taps.
> Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.


Can't say I've ever had any ice coming out of my taps either Maybe I've
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>>On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A great thing
>>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>>

>>
>>Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
>>first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
>>the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
>>leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.

>
> Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?


Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!


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> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> A great thing
> >>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
> >>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
> >>first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
> >>the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
> >>leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.

> >
> > Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?

>
> Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!


They're fairly uncommon in the U.S.

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> Ophelia wrote:


> > "Brooklyn1" wrote:
> > > Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?

> >
> > Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!

>
> They're fairly uncommon in the U.S.


I agree. They seem to be popular in Europe but very rare here in the
USA. It's certainly a great idea. I work in many homes and over
40-some years, I rarely see one. Only in a handful of homes owned by
the wealthy here.

IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh


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> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:14:02 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A great thing
>>>>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>>>>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
>>>> first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
>>>> the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
>>>> leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.
>>>
>>> Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?

>>
>> Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!

>
> They're fairly uncommon in the U.S.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Bidets are definitely not a common feature in the US but it's not as if
most people haven't heard of them.

Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived
in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for that
purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like everyone
else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.

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> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:14:02 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> A great thing
>> >>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>> >>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
>> >>first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
>> >>the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
>> >>leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.
>> >
>> > Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?

>>
>> Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!

>
> They're fairly uncommon in the U.S.


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> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived
> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for that
> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like everyone
> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.


Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much easier
to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet away
from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
(while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
rim and the floor.
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>>
>> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived
>> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for that
>> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like everyone
>> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.

>
>Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much easier
>to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet away
>from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
>(while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
>rim and the floor.


Even with marksman aim there's splashing. For males the neatest
method is one of those plastic hand held hospital urinals... I keep
one in my car and another at my office phone because occasionally I'm
put on hold and that silly elevator music makes me need to pee and I
never know how long I'll be kept on hold and I refuse to put peeing on
hold for an indeterminate time. Don't you just hate when someone
phones and then needs to put you on hold while they look up your file,
WTF can't they have your file in front of them before they phone? duh
Happened just an hour ago when the mail order pharmacy called, I was
on hold a full ten minutes before she got back to me to say that their
computer was slow. But anyway those plastic urinals come in very
handy, especially when driving on the Interstate and the next rest
stop could be more than fifty miles. In some of those western states
it could be 100 miles between rest stops, even further when driving
across Canada, and sometimes the door is locked and there's a sign
"Out Of Order".
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> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh


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>>
>> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived
>> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for that
>> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like everyone
>> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.

>
> Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much easier
> to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet away
> from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
> (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
> rim and the floor.
>

Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.

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> On 11/11/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived
> >> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for that
> >> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like everyone
> >> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.

> >
> > Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much easier
> > to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet away
> > from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
> > (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
> > rim and the floor.
> >

> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>

I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
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>> On 11/11/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived
>> >> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for
>> >> that
>> >> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like
>> >> everyone
>> >> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.
>> >
>> > Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much easier
>> > to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet away
>> > from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
>> > (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
>> > rim and the floor.
>> >

>> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
>> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>

> I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
> bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
> bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
> never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
> won't happen in any bathroom I use.


A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It is
the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!

What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards? Don't
tell me you don't wash???

No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!


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>>> Ya think?
>>>

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>> Probably not - I just like to imagine it that way. A great thing about
>> those places up North is they have ice water coming out of the taps.
>> Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.

>
> Can't say I've ever had any ice coming out of my taps either Maybe I've
> just been lucky)
>
>
>


The Hawaiians have an unholy obsession with iced beverages. The feeling
I got in the UK was that the people don't give it much consideration.
OTOH, you guys are crazy for warm/hot beverages. We are worlds apart on
this matter.
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