dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 12:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>> > I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it cold.
>>>> Hee
>>>> > hee.
>>>>
>>>> Ya think?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Probably not - I just like to imagine it that way. A great thing about
>>> those places up North is they have ice water coming out of the taps.
>>> Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>
>> Can't say I've ever had any ice coming out of my taps either Maybe
>> I've
>> just been lucky)
>>
>>
>>
>
> The Hawaiians have an unholy obsession with iced beverages. The feeling
> I got in the UK was that the people don't give it much consideration.
> OTOH, you guys are crazy for warm/hot beverages. We are worlds apart on
> this matter.

Iced is nice!

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/11/2015 12:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>> > I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it cold.
>>>> Hee
>>>> > hee.
>>>>
>>>> Ya think?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Probably not - I just like to imagine it that way. A great thing about
>>> those places up North is they have ice water coming out of the taps.
>>> Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>
>> Can't say I've ever had any ice coming out of my taps either Maybe
>> I've
>> just been lucky)
>>
>>
>>
>
> The Hawaiians have an unholy obsession with iced beverages. The feeling I
> got in the UK was that the people don't give it much consideration. OTOH,
> you guys are crazy for warm/hot beverages. We are worlds apart on this
> matter.

It is understandable though. When I lived in India and in Europe in the
summer, all I wanted were cold drinks too)



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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
> >>
> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>
> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It is
> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>
> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards? Don't
> tell me you don't wash???
>
> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!

Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>> >> apparently
>> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>> >>
>> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>
>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It
>> is
>> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>
>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>> Don't
>> tell me you don't wash???
>>
>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>
> Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.

Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just wiping
myself with paper is clean enough.

I prefer to wash and be properly clean!


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On 11/11/2015 5:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:14:02 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A great thing
>>>>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>>>>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
>>>> first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
>>>> the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
>>>> leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.
>>>
>>> Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?
>>
>> Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!
>
> They're fairly uncommon in the U.S.
>

There are inexpensive (under $100) bidet attachments for toilets that
are becoming increasingly popular. Lots of models on Amazon, some cold
water line only, some with both hot and cold water. Amazon had a cold
water model on a lightning deal yesterday.

sf wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>
>> IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
>> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
>
>It's a waste of good floor space.

sf, your 300 pound back side is a waste of space barbaric or
otherwise.

"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/11/2015 5:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:14:02 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A great thing
>>>>>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>>>>>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
>>>>> first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
>>>>> the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
>>>>> leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.
>>>>
>>>> Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?
>>>
>>> Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!
>>
>> They're fairly uncommon in the U.S.
>>
>
> There are inexpensive (under $100) bidet attachments for toilets that are
> becoming increasingly popular. Lots of models on Amazon, some cold water
> line only, some with both hot and cold water. Amazon had a cold water
> model on a lightning deal yesterday.

Mine is fairly old now (it does have hot and cold water) but you can get
bidet/toilet combinations now. Not sure how they work though.

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> sf wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>
> IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
>> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
>>
>>It's a waste of good floor space.

Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.

Pathetic!


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On 11/10/2015 6:54 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Moe DeLoughan wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 11/10/2015 2:12 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:47:11 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival'
>>>> seeds. Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be
>>>> purchased in bulk for about one one-hundredth of the price from
>>>> actual seed companies.
>>>
>>> If I was saving seeds for the apocalypse, it would be heirloom
>>> varieties because I think they'd have the best chance at making it
>>> to harvest.
>>>
>>
>> There's no legal definition of "heirloom seeds", so I'm not sure what
>> you mean by that. Open pollinated seeds are not hybrids, so they will
>> breed true from seed kept from year to year. The two basic issues
>> with such varieties are yield quantity and quality. It generally
>> seems that if the quality is outstanding, the yield is poor. A lot of
>> the old-time varieties are very good and good yielders, too, but a
>> lot of others are not the quality of newer hybrids. People who've
>> never tasted Golden Bantam sweet corn (one of the original old time
>> sweet corn varieties) would be in for a shock. Newer varieties are
>> much sweeter, crisper, better-yielding, and convert their sugar into
>> starch much more slowly. In short, the sweet corn you are eating now
>> is nothing at all like your grandparent's sweet corn. - it's a hell
>> of a lot better.
>
> Depends on what you want. I like the older versions of corn that dont
> taste like they've been rolled in sugar. They actually taste like CORN.
>

One of the earlier extrasweet (versus supersweet) hybrids to hit the
market was 'Sweetie' a yellow extrasweet corn. It retained the real
corn flavor and traditional texture, it was just about a third
sweeter, and the sugar changed to starch much more slowly. It could be
stored, refrigerated for about a week without significantly impairing
its sweetness and texture*. Alas, the supersweets quickly overwhelmed
the extrasweets in popularity. Apparently the general public decided
it liked corn that was decidedly sweet (instead of just sweeter) and
crispier, too.

You can still find Sweetie seed for sale at some of the bulk seed
merchants. I got my brother growing it when it was first introduced in
the 1980s and he won't grow anything else.

*I recall a very warm autumn where a farmer friend harvested the very
last of his Sweetie at the end of October. We kept in our coolers
until Thanksgiving, and served corn on the cob as part of our dinner.
It was still very good, though not at its best, but - locally grown
corn on the cob in Minnesota in November was quite the remarkable thing.

Moe DeLoughan wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 11/10/2015 6:54 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Moe DeLoughan wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On 11/10/2015 2:12 PM, sf wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:47:11 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival'
> > > > > seeds. Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be
> > > > > purchased in bulk for about one one-hundredth of the price
> > > > > from actual seed companies.
> > > >
> > > > If I was saving seeds for the apocalypse, it would be heirloom
> > > > varieties because I think they'd have the best chance at making
> > > > it to harvest.
> > > >
> > >
> > > There's no legal definition of "heirloom seeds", so I'm not sure
> > > what you mean by that. Open pollinated seeds are not hybrids, so
> > > they will breed true from seed kept from year to year. The two
> > > basic issues with such varieties are yield quantity and quality.
> > > It generally seems that if the quality is outstanding, the yield
> > > is poor. A lot of the old-time varieties are very good and good
> > > yielders, too, but a lot of others are not the quality of newer
> > > hybrids. People who've never tasted Golden Bantam sweet corn (one
> > > of the original old time sweet corn varieties) would be in for a
> > > shock. Newer varieties are much sweeter, crisper,
> > > better-yielding, and convert their sugar into starch much more
> > > slowly. In short, the sweet corn you are eating now is nothing at
> > > all like your grandparent's sweet corn. - it's a hell of a lot
> > > better.
> >
> > Depends on what you want. I like the older versions of corn that
> > dont taste like they've been rolled in sugar. They actually taste
> > like CORN.
> >
>
> One of the earlier extrasweet (versus supersweet) hybrids to hit the
> market was 'Sweetie' a yellow extrasweet corn. It retained the real
> corn flavor and traditional texture, it was just about a third
> sweeter, and the sugar changed to starch much more slowly. It could
> be stored, refrigerated for about a week without significantly
> impairing its sweetness and texture*. Alas, the supersweets quickly
> overwhelmed the extrasweets in popularity. Apparently the general
> public decided it liked corn that was decidedly sweet (instead of
> just sweeter) and crispier, too.
>
> You can still find Sweetie seed for sale at some of the bulk seed
> merchants. I got my brother growing it when it was first introduced
> in the 1980s and he won't grow anything else.
>
> *I recall a very warm autumn where a farmer friend harvested the very
> last of his Sweetie at the end of October. We kept in our coolers
> until Thanksgiving, and served corn on the cob as part of our dinner.
> It was still very good, though not at its best, but - locally grown
> corn on the cob in Minnesota in November was quite the remarkable
> thing.

Works for me! I don't want corn that tastes like it was dipped in
sugar.

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:51:08 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
> >> >> apparently
> >> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
> >> >>
> >> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
> >> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
> >> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
> >> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
> >> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
> >>
> >> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It
> >> is
> >> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
> >>
> >> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
> >> Don't
> >> tell me you don't wash???
> >>
> >> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
> >> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
> >
> > Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>
> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just wiping
> myself with paper is clean enough.
>
> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!

Good grief.

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sf

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:25:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
> > sf wrote:
> >Gary wrote:
> >
> > IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
> >> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
> >>
> >>It's a waste of good floor space.
>
> Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.
>
> Pathetic!

I've been in hotel rooms with them in the bathroom. Teeny tiny
showers, but there's a bidet to wash their asses.

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sf

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:51:08 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>> >> >> apparently
>> >> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>> >> >>
>> >> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>> >> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>> >> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>> >> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>> >> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>> >>
>> >> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>> >> It
>> >> is
>> >> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>> >>
>> >> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>> >> Don't
>> >> tell me you don't wash???
>> >>
>> >> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not
>> >> be
>> >> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>> >
>> > Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>
>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>> wiping
>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>
>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>
> Good grief.

Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off with
toilet paper?


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:25:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > sf wrote:
>> >Gary wrote:
>> >
>> > IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
>> >> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
>> >>
>> >>It's a waste of good floor space.
>>
>> Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.
>>
>> Pathetic!
>
> I've been in hotel rooms with them in the bathroom. Teeny tiny
> showers, but there's a bidet to wash their asses.

*smile*
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In article >,
says...
>
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 07:54:13 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
> > should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
>
> It's a waste of good floor space.

So, hang it on the wall.


Janet UK

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 10:38:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 11/11/2015 12:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "dsi1" <ds> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >>>> > I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it cold.
> >>>> Hee
> >>>> > hee.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ya think?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Probably not - I just like to imagine it that way. A great thing about
> >>> those places up North is they have ice water coming out of the taps.
> >>> Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
> >>
> >> Can't say I've ever had any ice coming out of my taps either Maybe
> >> I've
> >> just been lucky)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > The Hawaiians have an unholy obsession with iced beverages. The feeling I
> > got in the UK was that the people don't give it much consideration. OTOH,
> > you guys are crazy for warm/hot beverages. We are worlds apart on this
> > matter.
>
> It is understandable though. When I lived in India and in Europe in the
> summer, all I wanted were cold drinks too)
>

What you say makes a lot of sense. Today was quite a sensible one.

>
>
> --
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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 10:38:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 11/11/2015 12:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "dsi1" <ds> wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >>>> > I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it
>> >>>> > cold.
>> >>>> Hee
>> >>>> > hee.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ya think?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Probably not - I just like to imagine it that way. A great thing
>> >>> about
>> >>> those places up North is they have ice water coming out of the taps.
>> >>> Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>> >>
>> >> Can't say I've ever had any ice coming out of my taps either Maybe
>> >> I've
>> >> just been lucky)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > The Hawaiians have an unholy obsession with iced beverages. The feeling
>> > I
>> > got in the UK was that the people don't give it much consideration.
>> > OTOH,
>> > you guys are crazy for warm/hot beverages. We are worlds apart on this
>> > matter.
>>
>> It is understandable though. When I lived in India and in Europe in the
>> summer, all I wanted were cold drinks too)
>>
>
> What you say makes a lot of sense. Today was quite a sensible one.

You flatter me Sir ;p

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On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 4:26:05 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > sf wrote:
> >Gary wrote:
> >
> > IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
> >> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
> >>
> >>It's a waste of good floor space.
>
> Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.

Well, I don't know about a waste of floor space, but my 5x10 bathroom
is completely occupied by the bath tub, toilet, and sink (which is
set into a vanity that provides much-needed storage).

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 4:26:05 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>> > sf wrote:
>> >Gary wrote:
>> >
>> > IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
>> >> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
>> >>
>> >>It's a waste of good floor space.
>>
>> Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.
>
> Well, I don't know about a waste of floor space, but my 5x10 bathroom
> is completely occupied by the bath tub, toilet, and sink (which is
> set into a vanity that provides much-needed storage).

I had my bath removed many years ago when I had a new bathroom suite
installed. I have a shower, basin, bidet and toilet. I never liked baths

Bidets are not common here either, but I lived for many years in countries
which did use them and I have been using them since my mid 20s

It's what you get used to I suppose, but I don't denigrate anyone for NOT
having one! That is just puerile!


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Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:51:08 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown
>>> >
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>> >> >> apparently
>>> >> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>> >> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and
>>> hers
>>> >> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>> >> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal.
>>> Otherwise, it
>>> >> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>> >>
>>> >> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a
>>> bidet! >> It
>>> >> is
>>> >> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>> >>
>>> >> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>> >> Don't
>>> >> tell me you don't wash???
>>> >>
>>> >> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will
>>> not >> be
>>> >> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>> >
>>> > Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>>
>>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>>> wiping
>>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>>
>>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>>
>> Good grief.
>
> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
> with toilet paper?
>
>
Ick!

On 11/12/2015 5:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 4:26:05 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>>> > sf wrote:
>>> >Gary wrote:
>>> >
>>> > IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
>>> >> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
>>> >>
>>> >>It's a waste of good floor space.
>>>
>>> Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.
>>
>> Well, I don't know about a waste of floor space, but my 5x10 bathroom
>> is completely occupied by the bath tub, toilet, and sink (which is
>> set into a vanity that provides much-needed storage).
>
> I had my bath removed many years ago when I had a new bathroom suite
> installed. I have a shower, basin, bidet and toilet. I never liked baths
>
> Bidets are not common here either, but I lived for many years in
> countries which did use them and I have been using them since my mid 20s
>
> It's what you get used to I suppose, but I don't denigrate anyone for NOT
> having one! That is just puerile!
>
>
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On 11/11/2015 5:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Moe DeLoughan wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 11/10/2015 6:54 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Moe DeLoughan wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2015 2:12 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:47:11 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then again, the same can be said for the so-called 'survival'
>>>>>> seeds. Just plain old open-pollinated seeds that can be
>>>>>> purchased in bulk for about one one-hundredth of the price
>>>>>> from actual seed companies.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I was saving seeds for the apocalypse, it would be heirloom
>>>>> varieties because I think they'd have the best chance at making
>>>>> it to harvest.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's no legal definition of "heirloom seeds", so I'm not sure
>>>> what you mean by that. Open pollinated seeds are not hybrids, so
>>>> they will breed true from seed kept from year to year. The two
>>>> basic issues with such varieties are yield quantity and quality.
>>>> It generally seems that if the quality is outstanding, the yield
>>>> is poor. A lot of the old-time varieties are very good and good
>>>> yielders, too, but a lot of others are not the quality of newer
>>>> hybrids. People who've never tasted Golden Bantam sweet corn (one
>>>> of the original old time sweet corn varieties) would be in for a
>>>> shock. Newer varieties are much sweeter, crisper,
>>>> better-yielding, and convert their sugar into starch much more
>>>> slowly. In short, the sweet corn you are eating now is nothing at
>>>> all like your grandparent's sweet corn. - it's a hell of a lot
>>>> better.
>>>
>>> Depends on what you want. I like the older versions of corn that
>>> dont taste like they've been rolled in sugar. They actually taste
>>> like CORN.
>>>
>>
>> One of the earlier extrasweet (versus supersweet) hybrids to hit the
>> market was 'Sweetie' a yellow extrasweet corn. It retained the real
>> corn flavor and traditional texture, it was just about a third
>> sweeter, and the sugar changed to starch much more slowly. It could
>> be stored, refrigerated for about a week without significantly
>> impairing its sweetness and texture*. Alas, the supersweets quickly
>> overwhelmed the extrasweets in popularity. Apparently the general
>> public decided it liked corn that was decidedly sweet (instead of
>> just sweeter) and crispier, too.
>>
>> You can still find Sweetie seed for sale at some of the bulk seed
>> merchants. I got my brother growing it when it was first introduced
>> in the 1980s and he won't grow anything else.
>>
>> *I recall a very warm autumn where a farmer friend harvested the very
>> last of his Sweetie at the end of October. We kept in our coolers
>> until Thanksgiving, and served corn on the cob as part of our dinner.
>> It was still very good, though not at its best, but - locally grown
>> corn on the cob in Minnesota in November was quite the remarkable
>> thing.
>
> Works for me! I don't want corn that tastes like it was dipped in
> sugar.
>
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el pie de Onate wrote:
>
> Ophelia wrote:
> > Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
> > with toilet paper?
> >
> >
> Ick!

LOL! And this is a cooking ng? wth? heheh

One thing that combines the two... I think it's the muslims that only
use their left hands for wiping their butts so to use that hand for
cooking is not good.

Ever notice Mario Batalli when he's cooking? He does almost every
thing with his right hand and keeps his left hand down. If you
haven't noticed, watch the next time you see him cooking something.
I'm just wondering if he is a muslim too.

Gary wrote:
> el pie de Onate wrote:
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
>>> with toilet paper?
>>>
>>>
>> Ick!
>
> LOL! And this is a cooking ng? wth? heheh

So you find bathroom "humor" worthwhile?

Really???

> One thing that combines the two... I think it's the muslims that only
> use their left hands for wiping their butts so to use that hand for
> cooking is not good.

Or handshakes...

> Ever notice Mario Batalli when he's cooking? He does almost every
> thing with his right hand and keeps his left hand down. If you
> haven't noticed, watch the next time you see him cooking something.
> I'm just wondering if he is a muslim too.


I kinda doubt it.

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off with
> toilet paper?

Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:55:05 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> Ever notice Mario Batalli when he's cooking? He does almost every
> thing with his right hand and keeps his left hand down. If you
> haven't noticed, watch the next time you see him cooking something.
> I'm just wondering if he is a muslim too.

I think he does it because that's the hand that gabs the jars and
anything else he wants to stay clean. If you've ever watched chefs
demonstrate how to coat chicken with that flour, egg, flour method -
they recommend using the non-dominate hand for the dirty and the
dominate hand for the clean part. It's just good kitchen sense.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
>> with
>> toilet paper?
>
> Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.

Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.


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In article >, says...
>
> el pie de Onate wrote:
> >
> > Ophelia wrote:
> > > Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
> > > with toilet paper?
> > >
> > >
> > Ick!
>
> LOL! And this is a cooking ng? wth? heheh
>
> One thing that combines the two... I think it's the muslims that only
> use their left hands for wiping their butts so to use that hand for
> cooking is not good.
>
> Ever notice Mario Batalli when he's cooking? He does almost every
> thing with his right hand and keeps his left hand down. If you
> haven't noticed, watch the next time you see him cooking something.
> I'm just wondering if he is a muslim too.

In article >, says...
>
> el pie de Onate wrote:
> >
> > Ophelia wrote:
> > > Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
> > > with toilet paper?
> > >
> > >
> > Ick!
>
> LOL! And this is a cooking ng? wth? heheh
>
> One thing that combines the two... I think it's the muslims that only
> use their left hands for wiping their butts so to use that hand for
> cooking is not good.

Cooking (or any work) with the left hand is acceptable. It's eating
that really should be righthanded. It's not just Muslims who observe
that rule, Hindus do the same.

Janet UK

On 2015-11-12, Janet > wrote:

> It's not just Muslims who observe that rule, Hindus do the same.

So, it's not jes one religion that's really stupid.

nb

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
> >> with
> >> toilet paper?
> >
> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>
> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.

You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.

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sf

On 12 Nov 2015 19:54:13 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2015-11-12, Janet > wrote:
>
> > It's not just Muslims who observe that rule, Hindus do the same.
>
> So, it's not jes one religion that's really stupid.
>
Try living in primitive conditions and see how it changes your
outlook.


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sf wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off with
>> toilet paper?
>
>Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.

If anyone would know about shoving food up asses it'd be sf, need a
monster payloader to schtup sf's ass.
http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/uploads...1136_70748.jpg

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>> >> off
>> >> with
>> >> toilet paper?
>> >
>> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>>
>> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>
> You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.

Why because you didn't like the fact that I had a bidet???

LOL


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On 11/12/2015 11:52 AM, sf wrote:
> I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
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On 11/12/2015 2:53 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>>> >> off
>>> >> with
>>> >> toilet paper?
>>> >
>>> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>>>
>>> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>>
>> You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>
> Why because you didn't like the fact that I had a bidet???
> LOL
>
>
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:53:53 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
> >> >> off
> >> >> with
> >> >> toilet paper?
> >> >
> >> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
> >>
> >> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
> >
> > You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>
> Why because you didn't like the fact that I had a bidet???
>
> LOL

Get real. Your panties are in twist over something I wrote to Jill
and I am not apologizing to you for having an opinion.

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Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>>> off with
>>> toilet paper?
>>
>> Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>
> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>
>
MEOWWWWRRR!!!!

Hyacinth has her claws out.

notbob wrote:
> On 2015-11-12, Janet > wrote:
>
>> It's not just Muslims who observe that rule, Hindus do the same.
>
> So, it's not jes one religion that's really stupid.
>
> nb
>

Why all the hatred for religions?

Insecure much?

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
>>>> with
>>>> toilet paper?
>>>
>>> Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>>
>> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>
> You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>
<VBG>