sf wrote:
> On 12 Nov 2015 19:54:13 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-11-12, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> It's not just Muslims who observe that rule, Hindus do the same.
>>
>> So, it's not jes one religion that's really stupid.
>>
> Try living in primitive conditions and see how it changes your
> outlook.
>
>
An astute observation!

Animism becomes a major factor as well.

Sqwertz wrote:
> That's one way to save money on toilet paper.
>
> -sw

You're a bloated PIG!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>> > I figure you just leave foods out on the porch if you want it cold.
>>> > Hee
>>> > hee.
>>>
>>> Ya think?
>>>
>>
>> Probably not - I just like to imagine it that way. A great thing about
>> those places up North is they have ice water coming out of the taps.
>> Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>
> Can't say I've ever had any ice coming out of my taps either Maybe I've
> just been lucky)

Me either but I lived in one old, apartment with no insulation and I always
feared that my pipes might freeze. The water was so very cold when it came
out and I hated to use the toilet in the winter because the seat was so
cold. I used to let the water drip, hoping that would save me from frozen
pipes.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> A great thing
>>>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>>>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
>>>first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
>>>the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
>>>leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.
>>
>> Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?
>
> Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!

I don't know where Moe lives but they are rarely seen in this country. I've
never actually seen one.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>> sf wrote:
>>Gary wrote:
>>
>> IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
>>> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
>>>
>>>It's a waste of good floor space.
>
> Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.
>
> Pathetic!

They're really pretty much unknown here. I've never even seen one in a
store. You can get them online and they're not cheap.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/11/2015 6:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:14:02 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A great thing
>>>>>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
>>>>>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
>>>>> first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
>>>>> the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
>>>>> leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.
>>>>
>>>> Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?
>>>
>>> Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!
>>
>> They're fairly uncommon in the U.S.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> Bidets are definitely not a common feature in the US but it's not as if
> most people haven't heard of them.
>
> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived in
> Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for that
> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like everyone
> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.

I don't think I have ever heard of one in a house but certainly they are in
some public bathrooms. Seems a tad silly to me though.

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/11/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived
>> >> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for
>> >> that
>> >> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like
>> >> everyone
>> >> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.
>> >
>> > Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much easier
>> > to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet away
>> > from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
>> > (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
>> > rim and the floor.
>> >
>> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
>> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>
> I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
> bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
> bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
> never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
> won't happen in any bathroom I use.

Urinals can get really bad. We had them at the golf course. I hated having
to go in there to check and make sure that nobody was lurking in there at
closing time.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/11/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> > jmcquown wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we
>>> >> lived
>>> >> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for
>>> >> that
>>> >> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like
>>> >> everyone
>>> >> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.
>>> >
>>> > Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much easier
>>> > to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet away
>>> > from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
>>> > (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
>>> > rim and the floor.
>>> >
>>> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
>>> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>>
>> I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>> bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>> bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>> never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>> won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>
> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It
> is the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>
> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
> Don't tell me you don't wash???
>
> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!

I don't think anyone is sneering but seriously they are generally not used
here at all. I don't think they are common in Canada either. At least not
the parts where I've been. And no, we generally do not wash after. That's
what toilet paper is for. And if needed, flushable wet wipes.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>> >> apparently
>> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>> >>
>> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>
>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It
>> is
>> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>
>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>> Don't
>> tell me you don't wash???
>>
>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>
> Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.

I have a friend who lives in Malaysia and she does not have kind words to
say about those who have squat toilets and bidets in their homes. She says
they make quite the mess. Water all over.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>> >> apparently
>>> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>> >>
>>> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>>> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>>> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>>
>>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>>> It
>>> is
>>> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>>
>>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>> Don't
>>> tell me you don't wash???
>>>
>>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
>>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>
>> Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>
> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
> wiping
> myself with paper is clean enough.
>
> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!

You are that messy afterwards? *Probably does not really want to know the
answer*

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:51:08 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>> >> >> apparently
>> >> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>> >> >>
>> >> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>> >> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>> >> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>> >> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>> >> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>> >>
>> >> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>> >> It
>> >> is
>> >> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>> >>
>> >> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>> >> Don't
>> >> tell me you don't wash???
>> >>
>> >> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not
>> >> be
>> >> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>> >
>> > Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>
>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>> wiping
>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>
>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>
> Good grief.
>

Seriously. Reminds me of that SNL episode of the anal retentive chef.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> el pie de Onate wrote:
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>> > Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it off
>> > with toilet paper?
>> >
>> >
>> Ick!
>
> LOL! And this is a cooking ng? wth? heheh
>
> One thing that combines the two... I think it's the muslims that only
> use their left hands for wiping their butts so to use that hand for
> cooking is not good.
>
> Ever notice Mario Batalli when he's cooking? He does almost every
> thing with his right hand and keeps his left hand down. If you
> haven't noticed, watch the next time you see him cooking something.
> I'm just wondering if he is a muslim too.

I never noticed. Does he have a show on now? Can't say that I ever cared
to watch him.

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:55:05 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> Ever notice Mario Batalli when he's cooking? He does almost every
>> thing with his right hand and keeps his left hand down. If you
>> haven't noticed, watch the next time you see him cooking something.
>> I'm just wondering if he is a muslim too.
>
> I think he does it because that's the hand that gabs the jars and
> anything else he wants to stay clean. If you've ever watched chefs
> demonstrate how to coat chicken with that flour, egg, flour method -
> they recommend using the non-dominate hand for the dirty and the
> dominate hand for the clean part. It's just good kitchen sense.

I just try not to use my hands for touching stuff like meat. Was displeased
tonight when I discovered that not only had I bought ground beef patties but
that they'd wrapped them up in paper that I could only take off with my
hands. The fork just shredded it.

Ming Tsai is the one who gets me. I've seen him touch raw chicken, not wash
his hands then grab the pepper ball. Ick!

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>> >> off
>> >> with
>> >> toilet paper?
>> >
>> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>>
>> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>
> You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>

Does seem that way. She kind of took a pot shot at Americans because we
don't use bidets.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>>> >> off
>>> >> with
>>> >> toilet paper?
>>> >
>>> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>>>
>>> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>>
>> You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>
> Why because you didn't like the fact that I had a bidet???
> LOL

I'm sure nobody cares that you have one. But you're kind of putting the
rest of us down who don't. And that would be most people in the US.

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:57:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
> >> >> off
> >> >> with
> >> >> toilet paper?
> >> >
> >> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
> >>
> >> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
> >
> > You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
> >
>
> Does seem that way. She kind of took a pot shot at Americans because we
> don't use bidets.

Thank you.

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
>>>> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
>>>>
>>>>It's a waste of good floor space.
>>
>> Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.
>>
>> Pathetic!
>
> They're really pretty much unknown here. I've never even seen one in a
> store. You can get them online and they're not cheap.

That isn't my fault!! I simply asked why Moe was being teased about having
one and I said I had one too!!!


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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/11/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> > jmcquown wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we
>>>> >> lived
>>>> >> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like
>>>> >> everyone
>>>> >> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.
>>>> >
>>>> > Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much
>>>> > easier
>>>> > to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet
>>>> > away
>>>> > from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
>>>> > (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
>>>> > rim and the floor.
>>>> >
>>>> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
>>>> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>>>
>>> I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>> bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>>> bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>> never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>>> won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>
>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It
>> is the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>
>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>> Don't tell me you don't wash???
>>
>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>
> I don't think anyone is sneering but seriously they are generally not used
> here at all. I don't think they are common in Canada either. At least
> not the parts where I've been. And no, we generally do not wash after.
> That's what toilet paper is for. And if needed, flushable wet wipes.

You need reading lessons. I simply stated that I had a bidet the same as
Moe and then sf's bitching started.

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>>> >> apparently
>>>> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>>> >>
>>>> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>>> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>>>> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>>> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>>>> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>>>
>>>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>>>> It
>>>> is
>>>> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>>>
>>>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>>> Don't
>>>> tell me you don't wash???
>>>>
>>>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
>>>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>>
>>> Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>
>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>> wiping
>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>
>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>
> You are that messy afterwards? *Probably does not really want to know the
> answer*

No I damned well am not messy. I do not consider wiping faeces from my anus
with toilet paper leaves it clean. You tell me how you do it! As I asked
sf before being attacked, if you got it on your hands, would you wipe it off
with paper?? No, you would damned well wash them, or I hope you would, but
if you don't, it is no skin off my nose. I don't care!!!

Now, I didn't attack anyone, or say anyone must have a bidet, I simply made
a comment when Moe was questioned about having a bidet that I had one too.
Of course sf took that as a personal slight and did her usual stunts. Was
it jealousy or her Superiority Complex cutting in again? I don't give a
damn but I am sick of it!!!

Why are you so concerned anyway about whether I have a bidet? Are you
jealous too or do you just feel like joining in the bitching at me with sf?

I don't give a damn who has one or not, but I refuse to be put on trial so
you and everyone else who feels like bitching about it can sod off.



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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:51:08 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>> >> >> apparently
>>> >> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>> >> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and
>>> >> > hers
>>> >> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>> >> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise,
>>> >> > it
>>> >> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>> >>
>>> >> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>>> >> It
>>> >> is
>>> >> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>> >>
>>> >> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>> >> Don't
>>> >> tell me you don't wash???
>>> >>
>>> >> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not
>>> >> be
>>> >> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>> >
>>> > Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>>
>>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>>> wiping
>>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>>
>>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>>
>> Good grief.
>>
>
> Seriously. Reminds me of that SNL episode of the anal retentive chef.

Thank you, Julie.


>

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>>> >> off
>>> >> with
>>> >> toilet paper?
>>> >
>>> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>>>
>>> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>>
>> You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>>
>
> Does seem that way. She kind of took a pot shot at Americans because we
> don't use bidets.

Did 'she' now? Learn to read!


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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>>>> >> off
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> toilet paper?
>>>> >
>>>> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>>>>
>>>> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>>>
>>> You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>>
>> Why because you didn't like the fact that I had a bidet???
>> LOL
>
> I'm sure nobody cares that you have one. But you're kind of putting the
> rest of us down who don't. And that would be most people in the US.

I never had you down as stupid.



>

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"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:57:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >> > >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>> >> >> off
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> toilet paper?
>> >> >
>> >> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>> >>
>> >> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>> >
>> > You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>> >
>>
>> Does seem that way. She kind of took a pot shot at Americans because we
>> don't use bidets.
>
> Thank you.

LOL I thought you were supposed to have been a teacher???? You need to
learn to read!!!


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In article >, says...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:25:24 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 11/10/2015 4:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> A great thing
> >>>> about those places up North is they have ice water coming out of
> >>>> the taps. Amazing! That would never happen over here - too bad.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Take it from me - this is not so great when you're brushing your teeth
> >>>first thing in the morning. Same problem with a simple bidet - unless
> >>>the water first goes through a nearby on-demand heater, that wash will
> >>>leave your nether bits all tingly, and not in a pleasant way, either.
> >>
> >> Moe has first hand experience with a bidet?
> >
> > Whyever not? We have one in our bathroom!
>
> I don't know where Moe lives but they are rarely seen in this country. I've
> never actually seen one.

I can't understand it, given how hygiene-conscious Americans are.
(Also, without being rude, you have such a high number of people so
seriously obese they must struggle to reach their own backsides to wipe
the TP)

Over here, lots of baby-boomer older people I know are quietly
adapting their homes for their future personal care whenever they become
infirm. Downstairs bathroom refitted with bidet and walk-in, wheelchair-
access shower, is very popular.

Janet UK

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:22:24 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>>>> >> apparently
>>>>> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>>>> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>>>>> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>>>> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>>>>> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>>>>
>>>>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>>>>> It
>>>>> is
>>>>> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>>>>
>>>>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>>>> Don't
>>>>> tell me you don't wash???
>>>>>
>>>>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
>>>>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>>>
>>>> Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>>
>>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>>> wiping
>>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>>
>>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>>
>> You are that messy afterwards? *Probably does not really want to know the
>> answer*
>
>No I damned well am not messy. I do not consider wiping faeces from my anus
>with toilet paper leaves it clean. You tell me how you do it! As I asked
>sf before being attacked, if you got it on your hands, would you wipe it off
>with paper?? No, you would damned well wash them, or I hope you would, but
>if you don't, it is no skin off my nose. I don't care!!!
>
>Now, I didn't attack anyone, or say anyone must have a bidet, I simply made
>a comment when Moe was questioned about having a bidet that I had one too.
>Of course sf took that as a personal slight and did her usual stunts. Was
>it jealousy or her Superiority Complex cutting in again? I don't give a
>damn but I am sick of it!!!
>
>Why are you so concerned anyway about whether I have a bidet? Are you
>jealous too or do you just feel like joining in the bitching at me with sf?
>
>I don't give a damn who has one or not, but I refuse to be put on trial so
>you and everyone else who feels like bitching about it can sod off.


Well said and I see Julie referred to 'flushable wipes' - there is no
such thing.

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/scien...on-f6C10843060

It has been determined that the usual cause of these are ceramic type
sewage pipes, pre plastic, and wipes which hang up on irregularities.

I think she lives in an older house, so she better be careful what she
is flushing

In article >, says...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>Gary wrote:
> >>
> >> IMO, this is one case where we USAins drift to the barbaric side. Or
> >>> should I say the barbaric back sides. heheheh
> >>>
> >>>It's a waste of good floor space.
> >
> > Note: if sf doesn't have one then it must be denigrated and sneered at.
> >
> > Pathetic!
>
> They're really pretty much unknown here. I've never even seen one in a
> store. You can get them online and they're not cheap.

Cost of a ceramic bidet here starts at around £70, or 106 US dollars.
Their footprint is small, they occupy less space than a laundry basket.

Bathrooms already have hot and cold plumbing and drain exits, so
plumbing and fitting a bidet is within the ability of competent DIY; or
not terribly expensive if you have to pay for labour.

Janet UK

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:26:57 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"sf" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:57:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
>>> >> >> off
>>> >> >> with
>>> >> >> toilet paper?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
>>> >
>>> > You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Does seem that way. She kind of took a pot shot at Americans because we
>>> don't use bidets.
>>
>> Thank you.
>
>LOL I thought you were supposed to have been a teacher???? You need to
>learn to read!!!

Don't you remember all those jokes that circulated immediately after
the war when US tourists started invading Europe and had all these
ideas that bidets were for brushing your teeth in, birth control,
soaking feet etc ?

Maybe she taught kindergarten ?

In article >, says...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/11/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> > jmcquown wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we lived
> >> >> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for
> >> >> that
> >> >> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like
> >> >> everyone
> >> >> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.
> >> >
> >> > Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much easier
> >> > to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet away
> >> > from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
> >> > (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
> >> > rim and the floor.
> >> >
> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
> >>
> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>
> Urinals can get really bad.

A bidet is nothing like a urinal (or, a toilet). Nobody pees in it.


Janet

In article >, says...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
> >> >> apparently
> >> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
> >> >>
> >> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
> >> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
> >> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
> >> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
> >> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
> >>
> >> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It
> >> is
> >> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
> >>
> >> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
> >> Don't
> >> tell me you don't wash???
> >>
> >> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
> >> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
> >
> > Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>
> I have a friend who lives in Malaysia and she does not have kind words to
> say about those who have squat toilets and bidets in their homes. She says
> they make quite the mess. Water all over.

You are probably confusing "bidet" with the
combination of a squat toilet with a small rinsing hose which is used
over the floor hole. That's pretty common in Indonesia and does result
in wet foot areas.

It's not a bidet.

Janet UK.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:26:57 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:57:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:04:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:43:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Tell me, sf! If you get shit on your hands, will you just wipe it
> >> >> >> off
> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> toilet paper?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Gosh, O. I didn't know you shoved food up your ass.
> >> >>
> >> >> Not only are you a filthy cow you have a mind to match.
> >> >
> >> > You're getting what you started thrown right back at you.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Does seem that way. She kind of took a pot shot at Americans because we
> >> don't use bidets.
> >
> > Thank you.
>
> LOL I thought you were supposed to have been a teacher???? You need to
> learn to read!!!

Right back at you O. Your reading comprehension is extremely lacking.

--

sf

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:11:11 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/11/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
> >>>> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we
> >>>> >> lived
> >>>> >> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for
> >>>> >> that
> >>>> >> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like
> >>>> >> everyone
> >>>> >> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much
> >>>> > easier
> >>>> > to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet
> >>>> > away
> >>>> > from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
> >>>> > (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
> >>>> > rim and the floor.
> >>>> >
> >>>> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was apparently
> >>>> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
> >>>>
> >>> I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
> >>> bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
> >>> bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
> >>> never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
> >>> won't happen in any bathroom I use.
> >>
> >> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet! It
> >> is the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
> >>
> >> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
> >> Don't tell me you don't wash???
> >>
> >> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
> >> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
> >
> > I don't think anyone is sneering but seriously they are generally not used
> > here at all. I don't think they are common in Canada either. At least
> > not the parts where I've been. And no, we generally do not wash after.
> > That's what toilet paper is for. And if needed, flushable wet wipes.
>
> You need reading lessons. I simply stated that I had a bidet the same as
> Moe and then sf's bitching started.


You have a mighty thin skin for someone who is flinging sh*t. I was
talking to Jill about urinals in a home bathroom and likened them to
bidets and toilets with the seats left up when your bitching started.

--

sf

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 12:35:35 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article >, says...
> >
> Downstairs bathroom refitted with bidet and walk-in, wheelchair-
> access shower, is very popular.
>
> Janet UK
>
Wheelchair accessible showers are very practical. Heck you don't need
to be incapacitated to like them. I've wanted a built in shower bench
since I was in my 20's, it's very handy for putting your foot on to
facilitate leg shaving. No one I know wants a bidet. Maybe you're
talking about naturalized Europeans, but no one else wants one and I
know plenty of old people who were brought up in other countries.

--

sf

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/11/2015 9:28 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>> > jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Also uncommon: urinals. We had a urinal in one bathroom when we
>>>>> >> lived
>>>>> >> in Bangkok. My mother refused to let Dad or my brothers use it for
>>>>> >> that
>>>>> >> purpose. She said, I'm not cleaning that. Use the toilet like
>>>>> >> everyone
>>>>> >> else." LOL She kept a vase of fresh flowers in the urinal.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Interesting. If she had thought more about it, a urinal is much
>>>>> > easier
>>>>> > to clean, vs men standing up and peeing in a toilet that's 2 feet
>>>>> > away
>>>>> > from the man part. Urinals keep all that pee right in there. Peeing
>>>>> > (while standing up) in a much lower toilet get residual drops on the
>>>>> > rim and the floor.
>>>>> >
>>>>> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>>>> apparently
>>>>> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>>> bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>>>> bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>>> never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>>>> won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>>
>>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>>> It is the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>>
>>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>> Don't tell me you don't wash???
>>>
>>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not be
>>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>
>> I don't think anyone is sneering but seriously they are generally not
>> used here at all. I don't think they are common in Canada either. At
>> least not the parts where I've been. And no, we generally do not wash
>> after. That's what toilet paper is for. And if needed, flushable wet
>> wipes.
>
> You need reading lessons. I simply stated that I had a bidet the same as
> Moe and then sf's bitching started.

I did not see her bitching. In fact I would tend to agree with her on this
issue.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>>>> >> apparently
>>>>> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>>>> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and hers
>>>>> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>>>> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise, it
>>>>> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>>>>
>>>>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>>>>> It
>>>>> is
>>>>> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>>>>
>>>>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>>>> Don't
>>>>> tell me you don't wash???
>>>>>
>>>>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not
>>>>> be
>>>>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>>>
>>>> Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>>
>>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>>> wiping
>>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>>
>>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>>
>> You are that messy afterwards? *Probably does not really want to know
>> the answer*
>
> No I damned well am not messy. I do not consider wiping faeces from my
> anus with toilet paper leaves it clean. You tell me how you do it! As I
> asked sf before being attacked, if you got it on your hands, would you
> wipe it off with paper?? No, you would damned well wash them, or I hope
> you would, but if you don't, it is no skin off my nose. I don't care!!!
>
> Now, I didn't attack anyone, or say anyone must have a bidet, I simply
> made a comment when Moe was questioned about having a bidet that I had one
> too. Of course sf took that as a personal slight and did her usual stunts.
> Was it jealousy or her Superiority Complex cutting in again? I don't give
> a damn but I am sick of it!!!
>
> Why are you so concerned anyway about whether I have a bidet? Are you
> jealous too or do you just feel like joining in the bitching at me with
> sf?
>
> I don't give a damn who has one or not, but I refuse to be put on trial so
> you and everyone else who feels like bitching about it can sod off.

I don't care if you have one or not! But you are making it sound like those
of us who don't have one, and that would be most all of us in the US, are
unclean!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:51:08 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> >> ...
>>>> >> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>>> >> >> apparently
>>>> >> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as
>>>> >> > a
>>>> >> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and
>>>> >> > hers
>>>> >> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>>> >> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise,
>>>> >> > it
>>>> >> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a
>>>> >> bidet! It
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>>> >> Don't
>>>> >> tell me you don't wash???
>>>> >>
>>>> >> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not
>>>> >> be
>>>> >> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>>> >
>>>> > Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>>>
>>>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>>>> wiping
>>>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>>>
>>>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>>>
>>> Good grief.
>>>
>>
>> Seriously. Reminds me of that SNL episode of the anal retentive chef.
>
> Thank you, Julie.

That's not a good thing.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I don't care if you have one or not! But you are making it sound like those
> of us who don't have one, and that would be most all of us in the US, are
> unclean!

Let's start then with Stinky butt sf and Julie.
Notice the correlation too... both use canned chicken broth. lol

Most of the USAins DO have unclean butts. Ophy gave the best analogy.
If you get poo on your hands, would you wash the hands well, or just
wipe them off with a paper towel? USAins just cover up the smelly
parts with underwear and pants. Even Sheldon would turn down those
two.

Without a bidet, best to at least moisten some tp and give the bum a
quick wash.

On 11/13/2015 10:36 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> I have a combi boiler which serves the whole house for hot water and
>> heating. The water for all that is as hot as you want it to be. You
>> set the temp yourself.
>>
>> There is no water tank to heat up, it heats the water on demand.
>
> I don't think we have anything of the sort in this country.

Here's a California company which handles combi boilers -

<http://wholehousecombi.com/>

There are a number of others.

> wrote in message
...

> Well said and I see Julie referred to 'flushable wipes' - there is no
> such thing.
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/science/scien...on-f6C10843060
>
> It has been determined that the usual cause of these are ceramic type
> sewage pipes, pre plastic, and wipes which hang up on irregularities.
>
> I think she lives in an older house, so she better be careful what she
> is flushing

Woe to anyone that really thinks those things are flushable.

Cheri

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:37:22 -0500, jmcquown
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> Actually she didn't have to clean it, we had a maid. It was
>>>>>> >> apparently
>>>>>> >> just the thought of a pee trough that bothered her.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> > I wouldn't want that in my bathroom either. It's as repugnant as a
>>>>>> > bidet or a toilet with the seat left up. If there were his and
>>>>>> > hers
>>>>>> > bathrooms and a maid to clean them, I'd say go for it because I'd
>>>>>> > never need to step foot inside the one with a urinal. Otherwise,
>>>>>> > it
>>>>>> > won't happen in any bathroom I use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A bidet??? I can see you need educated! One doesn't pee in a bidet!
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the place you wash yourself *after* you have peed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What? No bidet? So, tell me, how do you clean yourself afterwards?
>>>>>> Don't
>>>>>> tell me you don't wash???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No I am not having a go at anyone for not having one, but I will not
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> sneered at for having one and having it likened to a toilet!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently bidet owners have never heard of toilet paper.
>>>>
>>>> Oh I use toilet paper BEFORE I use the bidet. I don't consider just
>>>> wiping
>>>> myself with paper is clean enough.
>>>>
>>>> I prefer to wash and be properly clean!
>>>
>>> You are that messy afterwards? *Probably does not really want to know
>>> the answer*
>>
>> No I damned well am not messy. I do not consider wiping faeces from my
>> anus with toilet paper leaves it clean. You tell me how you do it! As I
>> asked sf before being attacked, if you got it on your hands, would you
>> wipe it off with paper?? No, you would damned well wash them, or I hope
>> you would, but if you don't, it is no skin off my nose. I don't care!!!
>>
>> Now, I didn't attack anyone, or say anyone must have a bidet, I simply
>> made a comment when Moe was questioned about having a bidet that I had
>> one too. Of course sf took that as a personal slight and did her usual
>> stunts. Was it jealousy or her Superiority Complex cutting in again? I
>> don't give a damn but I am sick of it!!!
>>
>> Why are you so concerned anyway about whether I have a bidet? Are you
>> jealous too or do you just feel like joining in the bitching at me with
>> sf?
>>
>> I don't give a damn who has one or not, but I refuse to be put on trial
>> so you and everyone else who feels like bitching about it can sod off.
>
> I don't care if you have one or not! But you are making it sound like
> those of us who don't have one, and that would be most all of us in the
> US, are unclean!

Well, fact of the matter is your ass isn't AS clean as one washed with a
bidet no matter how you spin it, but that doesn't make you "unclean" because
you don't have one, and I don't think it was ever presented in those words
or meant to be taken that way, but in typical RFC fashion everything is
turned into an attack of some sort.

Cheri

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:13:01 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>
>> Well said and I see Julie referred to 'flushable wipes' - there is no
>> such thing.
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/science/scien...on-f6C10843060
>>
>> It has been determined that the usual cause of these are ceramic type
>> sewage pipes, pre plastic, and wipes which hang up on irregularities.
>>
>> I think she lives in an older house, so she better be careful what she
>> is flushing
>
>Woe to anyone that really thinks those things are flushable.
>
>Cheri

They do flush I guess but it's what happens next that matters. I am
going to raise the point at our next condo meeting because I fear some
believe what they read