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Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 11/13/2015 7:10 PM, cshenk wrote: > > > > I could see a toilet with a built in bidet. But no way am I > > > going to hobble from one seat over to another with my pants down, > > > only to get a wet behind. > > > > Grin, what an image! > > > > Still, I suspect part of the difference is bathroom size as in > > footprint to add that extra unit. In my case, there is no room to > > do it. Seriously, none. I'd have to take out the sink! > > > > Carol > > > > About 25 years ago the makers of plumbing fixtures tried to introduce > them here with little success. Most homes I've visited in Europe > have them but I've never seen one in the US or Canada. > > They made more sense years ago when toilet paper and sanitary napkins > were not so readily available. Bathing/showering was less frequent > also. Maybe we give more room to the bathing and sink areas? -- |
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On 11/13/2015 9:52 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:02:14 -0700, el pie de Onate > > wrote: > >> Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> I don't give a damn who has one or not, but I refuse to be put on trial >>> so you and everyone else who feels like bitching about it can sod off. >> >> Well then!!!! >> >> Bidet power. > > I'm the only one who is bitching. > I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster > than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can > stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes for > it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. > > It was ok in summer though. I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. Cindy Hamilton |
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![]() "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: > >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes for >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >> >> It was ok in summer though. > > I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. You need a combi boiler young lady!! Sheila has shown you where to get one <g> -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:21:09 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message > ... > > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: > > > >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster > >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can > >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes for > >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. > >> > >> It was ok in summer though. > > > > I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I > > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and > > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the > > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water > > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. > > You need a combi boiler young lady!! Sheila has shown you where to get one > <g> Thanks for the tip, but my house already has ductwork for forced-air heating and air-conditioning. Not going to add radiators. I am considering an on-demand water heater next time, but that won't help the lag from the cold water in the pipes. Cindy Hamilton |
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![]() "Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > > > "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message > ... >> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >> >>> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >>> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >>> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes for >>> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >>> >>> It was ok in summer though. >> >> I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I >> entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >> then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >> tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water >> to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. > > You need a combi boiler young lady!! Sheila has shown you where to get > one <g> In order to have one of those, you would have to have that sort of heat to begin with. And we don't have that here. |
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![]() "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... > On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:21:09 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote: >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >> > >> >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >> >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >> >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes >> >> for >> >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >> >> >> >> It was ok in summer though. >> > >> > I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I >> > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >> > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >> > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water >> > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. >> >> You need a combi boiler young lady!! Sheila has shown you where to get >> one >> <g> > > Thanks for the tip, but my house already has ductwork for forced-air > heating > and air-conditioning. Not going to add radiators. Understood. There is warm air ductwork in this house (not air-conditioning) when I bought it but it was so poor I changed it to radiators. If yours is working well there is not a lot of point in changing it. > I am considering an on-demand water heater next time, but that won't > help the lag from the cold water in the pipes. Will give you 'on demand' hot water? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 11/14/2015 7:35 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > I am considering an on-demand water heater next time, but that won't > help the lag from the cold water in the pipes. > > Cindy Hamilton > You could with a point of use heater, but you may need two or three in the house. |
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On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 10:08:30 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message > ... > > On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:21:09 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote: > >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message > >> ... > >> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: > >> > > >> >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster > >> >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can > >> >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes > >> >> for > >> >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. > >> >> > >> >> It was ok in summer though. > >> > > >> > I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I > >> > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and > >> > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the > >> > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water > >> > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. > >> > >> You need a combi boiler young lady!! Sheila has shown you where to get > >> one > >> <g> > > > > Thanks for the tip, but my house already has ductwork for forced-air > > heating > > and air-conditioning. Not going to add radiators. > > Understood. There is warm air ductwork in this house (not air-conditioning) > when I bought it but it was so poor I changed it to radiators. If yours is > working well there is > not a lot of point in changing it. > > > I am considering an on-demand water heater next time, but that won't > > help the lag from the cold water in the pipes. > > Will give you 'on demand' hot water? A water heater that fires only when hot water is called for, rather than the heated tank that I now have, which maintains 50 or 60 gallons of hot water at all times. However, I'll still have to wait while the hot water pushes all of the cold water out of its way. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 10:12:01 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/14/2015 7:35 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > I am considering an on-demand water heater next time, but that won't > > help the lag from the cold water in the pipes. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > > You could with a point of use heater, but you may need two or three in > the house. At least two, I would imagine, perhaps three. The kitchen and laundry are back-to-back, but that's a lot of demand that I often want to satisfy simultaneously. Do they come in gas? I'm fed up with paying our electricity rates and don't want to go back to resistive heat for hot water. My husband wants underfloor heat when we remodel the bathroom. *sigh*. Well, he's a great guy and I like giving him what he wants. Even if he is a wimp about the temperature in the bathroom. Cindy Hamilton |
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![]() "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... > On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 10:08:30 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote: >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:21:09 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote: >> >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message >> >> ... >> >> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up >> >> >> faster >> >> >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >> >> >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes >> >> >> for >> >> >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit >> >> >> down. >> >> >> >> >> >> It was ok in summer though. >> >> > >> >> > I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when >> >> > I >> >> > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >> >> > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >> >> > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the >> >> > water >> >> > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor >> >> > bathroom. >> >> >> >> You need a combi boiler young lady!! Sheila has shown you where to >> >> get >> >> one >> >> <g> >> > >> > Thanks for the tip, but my house already has ductwork for forced-air >> > heating >> > and air-conditioning. Not going to add radiators. >> >> Understood. There is warm air ductwork in this house (not >> air-conditioning) >> when I bought it but it was so poor I changed it to radiators. If yours >> is >> working well there is >> not a lot of point in changing it. >> >> > I am considering an on-demand water heater next time, but that won't >> > help the lag from the cold water in the pipes. >> >> Will give you 'on demand' hot water? > > A water heater that fires only when hot water is called for, rather > than the heated tank that I now have, which maintains 50 or 60 gallons > of hot water at all times. > > However, I'll still have to wait while the hot water pushes all of the > cold > water out of its way. Oh ![]() tank to heat ![]() And now I will shut up about combis -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 11/13/2015 7:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > The main bathroom in my parent's house was so small that when my dad > began having difficulties and we had to install rails for the toilet, we > had a hard time putting them in. When you sat on the toilet, you had > the sink immediately to your right and the tub to your left. If you > were sitting on the toilet and someone tried to open the door, you'd get > whacked in the knees. They finally had to get a pocket door installed. > > I had one bathroom that was smaller than that still. While sitting on > the toilet, your knees were under the sink. I did actually have one > person get stuck on the toilet. You needed to be fairly agile to get on > and off of it because you had to angle your body just right. No way > would a bidet fit in those bathrooms. I really think the two accounts of bathroom sizes you've given are not the norm. Hell, most bathrooms have enough room for a litterbox if you need to put one in there. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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![]() "Cheryl" > wrote in message b.com... > On 11/13/2015 7:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> The main bathroom in my parent's house was so small that when my dad >> began having difficulties and we had to install rails for the toilet, we >> had a hard time putting them in. When you sat on the toilet, you had >> the sink immediately to your right and the tub to your left. If you >> were sitting on the toilet and someone tried to open the door, you'd get >> whacked in the knees. They finally had to get a pocket door installed. >> >> I had one bathroom that was smaller than that still. While sitting on >> the toilet, your knees were under the sink. I did actually have one >> person get stuck on the toilet. You needed to be fairly agile to get on >> and off of it because you had to angle your body just right. No way >> would a bidet fit in those bathrooms. > > I really think the two accounts of bathroom sizes you've given are not the > norm. Hell, most bathrooms have enough room for a litterbox if you need > to put one in there. Maybe not where you are but where I am, houses built in the 50's and 60's had really small bathrooms. The apartment was older than that and it was in every way an exception as it was over a business. Our house in Wichita had what everyone referred to as a postage stamp bathroom. Meaning that it was very small. And then we moved here. And couldn't believe that the bathroom was smaller. I have only had three bathrooms where I could put a litter box. This house, a half bath in military housing and an apartment bathroom. In the other two military houses, there was no room whatever for it in the bathroom. I had to put it downstairs in one case. Thankfully Maui was younger then but I still felt bad for making her go down there. Had to put it in the bedroom in the other place. My bathroom here is large enough for the litter box but my husband's bathroom which is the original one, is not. |
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On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said:
> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: > >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes for >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >> >> It was ok in summer though. > > I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent a lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. So regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or whatever, the water used in the spray is warmed. |
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On 11/13/2015 9:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/12/2015 11:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> > > >> >> Urinals can get really bad. We had them at the golf course. I hated >> having to go in there to check and make sure that nobody was lurking in >> there at closing time. > > If you think the urinal is nasty, imagine those guys ****ing in the toilet. But Ed, were those guys ****ing or lurking? Or both? ![]() Jill |
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![]() "gtr" > wrote in message news:2015111514144940080-xxx@yyyzzz... > On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: > >> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >> >>> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >>> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >>> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes for >>> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >>> >>> It was ok in summer though. >> >> I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I >> entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >> then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >> tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water >> to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. > > Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent a > lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last > year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: > > http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc > > Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's > with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not > dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. So > regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or whatever, the > water used in the spray is warmed. Very snazy ![]() problem getting hot water. Oh but I don't get a heated seat <g> Enjoy ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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![]() "Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > > > "gtr" > wrote in message > news:2015111514144940080-xxx@yyyzzz... >> On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: >> >>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >>> >>>> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >>>> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >>>> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes for >>>> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >>>> >>>> It was ok in summer though. >>> >>> I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I >>> entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >>> then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >>> tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water >>> to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. >> >> Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent a >> lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last >> year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc >> >> Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's >> with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not >> dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. So >> regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or whatever, the >> water used in the spray is warmed. > > Very snazy ![]() > problem getting hot water. Oh but I don't get a heated seat <g> > > Enjoy ![]() I ought too have said, I enjoyed the blurb but it is going to put a couple of noses seriously out of joint lol Oh yes and be prepared now to be told you are saying Americans are dirty ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:14:53 PM UTC-10, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: > > > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: > > > >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster > >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can > >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes for > >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. > >> > >> It was ok in summer though. > > > > I suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I > > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and > > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the > > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water > > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. > > Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent > a lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last > year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: > > http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc > > Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's > with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not > dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. > So regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or > whatever, the water used in the spray is warmed. Toto makes toilets. Toho makes Godzilla movies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QNoNh44pFI |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:14:53 PM UTC-10, gtr wrote: >> On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: >> >> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >> > >> >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >> >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >> >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes >> >> for >> >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >> >> >> >> It was ok in summer though. >> > >> > I > suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I >> > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >> > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >> > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water >> > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. >> >> Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent >> a lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last >> year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc >> >> Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's >> with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not >> dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. >> So regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or >> whatever, the water used in the spray is warmed. > > Toto makes toilets. Toho makes Godzilla movies. I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. Cheri |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote: snip > >I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. > >Cheri Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() Janet US |
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![]() "Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > > wrote: > snip >> >>I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >> >>Cheri > > Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() > Janet US Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black Lagoon comes to mind as well. ![]() Cheri |
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On 2015-11-16, Janet B > wrote:
> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() I make a distinction between scifi stop-action monsters and Japanese "rubber monsters", as my late buddy usta describe those Japanese Godzilla-like characters. I gave up on 'em when I saw Ghidra, the Three Headed Monster. It was like watching a 3 Stooges movie with the rubber monsters engaging in slapstick comedy scenes. Nothing at all like Ray Harryhausen monsters. ![]() nb |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:00:57 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote: > >"Janet B" > wrote in message .. . >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > >> wrote: >> snip >>> >>>I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>> >>>Cheri >> >> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() >> Janet US > >Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black Lagoon >comes to mind as well. ![]() > >Cheri Them. |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:09:01 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:00:57 -0800, "Cheri" > >wrote: > >> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> snip >>>> >>>>I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>>> >>>>Cheri >>> >>> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() >>> Janet US >> >>Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black Lagoon >>comes to mind as well. ![]() >> >>Cheri > >Them. that's my favorite of all. Janet US |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 14:35:51 -0700, Janet B >
wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:09:01 -0500, Brooklyn1 > wrote: > >>On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:00:57 -0800, "Cheri" > >>wrote: >> >>> >>>"Janet B" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > >>>> wrote: >>>> snip >>>>> >>>>>I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>>>> >>>>>Cheri >>>> >>>> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() >>>> Janet US >>> >>>Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black Lagoon >>>comes to mind as well. ![]() >>> >>>Cheri >> >>Them. > >that's my favorite of all. >Janet US Good music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4URRp39XOo Another great: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Jungle I've watched it several times, always very good. http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/...ungle/overview |
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On 11/16/2015 4:09 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 14:35:51 -0700, Janet B > > wrote: > >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:09:01 -0500, Brooklyn1 >> > wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:00:57 -0800, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Janet B" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> snip >>>>>> >>>>>> I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri >>>>> >>>>> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() >>>>> Janet US >>>> >>>> Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black Lagoon >>>> comes to mind as well. ![]() >>>> >>>> Cheri >>> >>> Them. >> >> that's my favorite of all. >> Janet US > > Good music: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4URRp39XOo > > Another great: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Jungle > I've watched it several times, always very good. > http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/...ungle/overview > I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On 11/16/2015 2:09 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:00:57 -0800, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> snip >>>> >>>> I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>> >>> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() >>> Janet US >> >> Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black Lagoon >> comes to mind as well. ![]() >> >> Cheri > > Them. > I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On 11/16/2015 12:00 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > "Janet B" > wrote in message > ... >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > >> wrote: >> snip >>> >>> I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>> >>> Cheri >> >> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() >> Janet US > > Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black > Lagoon comes to mind as well. ![]() > > Cheri I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 8:51:53 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message > ... > > On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:14:53 PM UTC-10, gtr wrote: > >> On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: > >> > >> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: > >> > > >> >> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster > >> >> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can > >> >> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes > >> >> for > >> >> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. > >> >> > >> >> It was ok in summer though. > >> > > >> > I > > suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I > >> > entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and > >> > then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the > >> > tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water > >> > to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. > >> > >> Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent > >> a lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last > >> year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc > >> > >> Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's > >> with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not > >> dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. > >> So regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or > >> whatever, the water used in the spray is warmed. > > > > Toto makes toilets. Toho makes Godzilla movies. > > I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. > > Cheri Toilets and Godzilla - thanks Japan! Hopefully, you have seen the Japan version of the original '54 Godzilla. The Americanized version is just plain goofy. "During Godzilla's rampage through downtown Tokyo, one of the buildings he destroys is the Toho Theater. In fact, some fans who were watching the film in that theater actually thought the theater was being attacked and tried to run out of the theater." |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 8:51:53 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message >> ... >>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:14:53 PM UTC-10, gtr wrote: >>>> On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: >>>> >>>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >>>>>> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >>>>>> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes >>>>>> for >>>>>> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >>>>>> >>>>>> It was ok in summer though. >>>>> >>>>> I >>> suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I >>>>> entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >>>>> then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >>>>> tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water >>>>> to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. >>>> >>>> Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent >>>> a lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last >>>> year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc >>>> >>>> Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's >>>> with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not >>>> dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. >>>> So regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or >>>> whatever, the water used in the spray is warmed. >>> >>> Toto makes toilets. Toho makes Godzilla movies. >> >> I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >> >> Cheri > > Toilets and Godzilla - thanks Japan! Hopefully, you have seen the Japan version of the original '54 Godzilla. The Americanized version is just plain goofy. > > "During Godzilla's rampage through downtown Tokyo, one of the buildings he destroys is the Toho Theater. In fact, some fans who were watching the film in that theater actually thought the theater was being attacked and tried to run out of the theater." > Really? That makes Vincent Price and "The Tingler" look tame. I mean we used real electricity to get our patrons moving! http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/from-...icks-978832591 Perhaps the crowning achievement of Castle’s gag-filled oeuvre was his 1959 film “The Tingler.” Posters for the film included a guarantee that the monster would break loose during your screening, but that you’d be given instructions on “how to guard yourself against attack.” Castle encouraged audiences to react by creating a climax that takes place in a darkened theater and using a single sequence of blood-curdling color for maximum effect. On top of all this, Castle also rigged certain theater seats with electric buzzers. “I don’t know how he talked these independent theaters into letting him shock the audience’s butts,” says Terry. “It was a fairly simple device, but he had to work hard to get the studio’s marketing department to buy off on it, and also to persuade the exhibitors to do the gimmick. I can’t imagine that working today.” |
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On 11/17/2015 3:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 8:51:53 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message >> ... >>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:14:53 PM UTC-10, gtr wrote: >>>> On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: >>>> >>>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >>>>>> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >>>>>> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes >>>>>> for >>>>>> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >>>>>> >>>>>> It was ok in summer though. >>>>> >>>>> I >>> suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I >>>>> entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >>>>> then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >>>>> tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water >>>>> to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. >>>> >>>> Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent >>>> a lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last >>>> year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc >>>> >>>> Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's >>>> with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not >>>> dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. >>>> So regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or >>>> whatever, the water used in the spray is warmed. >>> >>> Toto makes toilets. Toho makes Godzilla movies. >> >> I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >> >> Cheri > > Toilets and Godzilla - thanks Japan! Hopefully, you have seen the Japan version of the original '54 Godzilla. The Americanized version is just plain goofy. > > "During Godzilla's rampage through downtown Tokyo, one of the buildings he destroys is the Toho Theater. In fact, some fans who were watching the film in that theater actually thought the theater was being attacked and tried to run out of the theater." > I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today. In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took office. |
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On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 12:55:20 PM UTC-10, playas wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 8:51:53 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: > >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message > >> ... > >>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:14:53 PM UTC-10, gtr wrote: > >>>> On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: > >>>> > >>>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster > >>>>>> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can > >>>>>> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It was ok in summer though. > >>>>> > >>>>> I > >>> suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I > >>>>> entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and > >>>>> then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the > >>>>> tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water > >>>>> to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. > >>>> > >>>> Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent > >>>> a lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last > >>>> year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: > >>>> > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc > >>>> > >>>> Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's > >>>> with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not > >>>> dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them.. > >>>> So regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or > >>>> whatever, the water used in the spray is warmed. > >>> > >>> Toto makes toilets. Toho makes Godzilla movies. > >> > >> I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. > >> > >> Cheri > > > > Toilets and Godzilla - thanks Japan! Hopefully, you have seen the Japan version of the original '54 Godzilla. The Americanized version is just plain goofy. > > > > "During Godzilla's rampage through downtown Tokyo, one of the buildings he destroys is the Toho Theater. In fact, some fans who were watching the film in that theater actually thought the theater was being attacked and tried to run out of the theater." > > > > Really? > > That makes Vincent Price and "The Tingler" look tame. I mean we used > real electricity to get our patrons moving! > > http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/from-...icks-978832591 > > Perhaps the crowning achievement of Castle's gag-filled oeuvre was his > 1959 film "The Tingler." Posters for the film included a guarantee that > the monster would break loose during your screening, but that you'd be > given instructions on "how to guard yourself against attack." Castle > encouraged audiences to react by creating a climax that takes place in a > darkened theater and using a single sequence of blood-curdling color for > maximum effect. > > On top of all this, Castle also rigged certain theater seats with > electric buzzers. "I don't know how he talked these independent theaters > into letting him shock the audience's butts," says Terry. "It was a > fairly simple device, but he had to work hard to get the studio's > marketing department to buy off on it, and also to persuade the > exhibitors to do the gimmick. I can't imagine that working today." William Castle must have been the King of Schlockmeisters. Normally, this would not be a good thing but his audacious antics have raised him into the status of folk hero. I love that guy! Back in the 60's this island was filled with movie theaters. Toho studios had a nice one that screened their movies. There were several theaters here that screened movies from Japan but they're long gone. The Toho Theater was sold to Consolidated Theaters in the 70's and of course, they screened American movies. The last film we saw there was "Stop Making Sense." I remember seeing the silhouette of a rat move across the aisles - it made me laugh. I suppose that's a sure sign that the end was near. These days, the theater is a gym. ![]() |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 12:55:20 PM UTC-10, playas wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 8:51:53 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: >>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:14:53 PM UTC-10, gtr wrote: >>>>>> On 2015-11-14 11:37:22 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We had the swing out arm type in Japan. Nothing perks you up faster >>>>>>>> than a shot of cold water on your bitties at 4am! That or you can >>>>>>>> stand up, turn around and turn the nossle down and wait 3-4 minutes >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> it to get warm then turn it off, turn the head back up, and sit down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It was ok in summer though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I >>>>> suppose if we had a bidet, I'd turn on the water at the sink when I >>>>>>> entered the bathroom, let it run while I was doing my thing, and >>>>>>> then it might be warm enough. I'd probably have to resort to the >>>>>>> tank-top copy of the Farmer's Almanac while I was waiting for the water >>>>>>> to arrive from the basement hot water tank to the 1st floor bathroom. >>>>>> >>>>>> Coming in late (probably a good thing) on this discussion. We've spent >>>>>> a lot of time in Japan over the past 12 years, and six weeks there last >>>>>> year. Most of that time using these Toho Washlets: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/p7cgkxc >>>>>> >>>>>> Last November when we returned we replaced both the toilets with Toho's >>>>>> with a Washlett B100 on them. (The article shows the S350e, not >>>>>> dramatically different.) These units store heated water inside them. >>>>>> So regardless of the distance to the water heater or season or >>>>>> whatever, the water used in the spray is warmed. >>>>> >>>>> Toto makes toilets. Toho makes Godzilla movies. >>>> >>>> I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>> >>> Toilets and Godzilla - thanks Japan! Hopefully, you have seen the Japan version of the original '54 Godzilla. The Americanized version is just plain goofy. >>> >>> "During Godzilla's rampage through downtown Tokyo, one of the buildings he destroys is the Toho Theater. In fact, some fans who were watching the film in that theater actually thought the theater was being attacked and tried to run out of the theater." >>> >> >> Really? >> >> That makes Vincent Price and "The Tingler" look tame. I mean we used >> real electricity to get our patrons moving! >> >> http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/from-...icks-978832591 >> >> Perhaps the crowning achievement of Castle's gag-filled oeuvre was his >> 1959 film "The Tingler." Posters for the film included a guarantee that >> the monster would break loose during your screening, but that you'd be >> given instructions on "how to guard yourself against attack." Castle >> encouraged audiences to react by creating a climax that takes place in a >> darkened theater and using a single sequence of blood-curdling color for >> maximum effect. >> >> On top of all this, Castle also rigged certain theater seats with >> electric buzzers. "I don't know how he talked these independent theaters >> into letting him shock the audience's butts," says Terry. "It was a >> fairly simple device, but he had to work hard to get the studio's >> marketing department to buy off on it, and also to persuade the >> exhibitors to do the gimmick. I can't imagine that working today." > > William Castle must have been the King of Schlockmeisters. Normally, this would not be a good thing but his audacious antics have raised him into the status of folk hero. I love that guy! The John Goodman film on him is a treat. > Back in the 60's this island was filled with movie theaters. Toho studios had a nice one that screened their movies. There were several theaters here that screened movies from Japan but they're long gone. The Toho Theater was sold to Consolidated Theaters in the 70's and of course, they screened American movies. The last film we saw there was "Stop Making Sense." I remember seeing the silhouette of a rat move across the aisles - it made me laugh. I suppose that's a sure sign that the end was near. These days, the theater is a gym. ![]() I dig the Talking Heads - very cool! |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:00:57 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote: > >"Janet B" > wrote in message .. . >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > >> wrote: >> snip >>> >>>I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>> >>>Cheri >> >> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() >> Janet US > >Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black Lagoon >comes to mind as well. ![]() > >Cheri Where did I say that? -- Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127. |
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> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:00:57 -0800, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:51:02 -0800, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> snip >>>> >>>> I love Godzilla movies, also Rodan, Mothra, etc. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>> >>> Any of the sci-fi monster movies of that era are good for me. ![]() >>> Janet US >> >> Yes, they all bring back childhood memories...Creature From The Black Lagoon >> comes to mind as well. ![]() >> >> Cheri > > Where did I say that? > -- > Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127. > Although the US portrays itself as the land of equality, it unfairly targets Muslim gunmen as terrorists, even as studies show that white supremacist and radical anti-government groups pose the greatest domestic terror threat in the country. American media outlets have been reluctant to classify the Charleston, South Carolina church massacre as terrorism, despite how clearly it fits the definition of a terrorist act, defined as extreme violence intended to murder civilians and to create fear based on political and ideological beliefs. Dylann Roof, 21, the white gunman who shot nine black people dead at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston last month is an avowed white supremacist who wanted to start a race war in the US. Roof, however, has been described by mainstream media outlets and authorities as mentally ill and filled with the hatred of blacks, not a terrorist. Similarly, Craig Stephen Hicks, a white gunman who killed three Muslim American college students in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, in February had also been steered away from terrorism, although governments and leaders of several Muslim-majority countries deemed the shooting to be terrorism. Former Black Panther Party member and international defense lawyer John Floyd says there is no real distinction between terrorism and hate crimes, describing their differences as rhetorical. “It’s a distinction without a real difference,” Floyd told Press TV’s correspondent in Washington. “A lot of the elements that if you were trying to prove that it was a terrorist act, it’s there; if you want to prove that it’s a hate crime, it’s there,” he said. According to a recent study published last month, white and right-wing Americans present a far greater terror threat to the United States than individuals linked to the al-Qaeda or ISIL extremist groups. Most of the “terror” attacks carried out on US soil since the September 11, 2001 attacks have been committed by white supremacist and radical anti-government groups, according to the New America Foundation, a Washington-based think tank. |
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