So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??

Seriously?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html

The governor of Hawaii has declared a 'state of emergency' over the
growing homeless problem in the state in a bid to tackle the crisis.

Governor David Ige signed an emergency proclamation on Friday to tackle
homelessness in Hawaii to help turn around the lives of those living on
the streets. He also pledged $1.3 million.

He said: 'I will be issuing an emergency proclamation. Homelessness
remains a serious issue in every county throughout the state...The
biggest deficit in the system is shelter space for families.'
....

Officials in Hawaii said it has pledged over $1.3 million to fund
homeless services - including setting up permanent homes for families.

Ige added: 'We are making sure that we have options for those who are
homeless to move into an emergency shelter, and the biggest deficit in
the system is shelter space for families.

'So the emergency proclamation would allow us to stand up shelters for
families in an expeditious manner.'

The state has also recently cleared the Kakaako homeless encampment
leading to more than half of the estimated 300 residents of the
encampment, including 25 families, moving into shelters and permanent
housing.

'They definitely are off the streets and in a better situation where we
are in a position to provide them services that will help us move them
permanently out of the state of homelessness,' Ige said.

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>
> Seriously?
>

It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year, the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 - amazing!

I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes them feel like they're on a camping trip.

My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals. The hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients were "cured" during the Reagan administration.

>
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html
>
> The governor of Hawaii has declared a 'state of emergency' over the
> growing homeless problem in the state in a bid to tackle the crisis.
>
> Governor David Ige signed an emergency proclamation on Friday to tackle
> homelessness in Hawaii to help turn around the lives of those living on
> the streets. He also pledged $1.3 million.
>
> He said: 'I will be issuing an emergency proclamation. Homelessness
> remains a serious issue in every county throughout the state...The
> biggest deficit in the system is shelter space for families.'
> ...
>
> Officials in Hawaii said it has pledged over $1.3 million to fund
> homeless services - including setting up permanent homes for families.
>
> Ige added: 'We are making sure that we have options for those who are
> homeless to move into an emergency shelter, and the biggest deficit in
> the system is shelter space for families.
>
> 'So the emergency proclamation would allow us to stand up shelters for
> families in an expeditious manner.'
>
> The state has also recently cleared the Kakaako homeless encampment
> leading to more than half of the estimated 300 residents of the
> encampment, including 25 families, moving into shelters and permanent
> housing.
>
> 'They definitely are off the streets and in a better situation where we
> are in a position to provide them services that will help us move them
> permanently out of the state of homelessness,' Ige said.

On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:21:47 -0700, Embudo > wrote:

> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>
> Seriously?
>
>
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html

Napoleon Complex: Co-housing for the antisocial. It's funny, but not
a joke. http://www.fourlightshouses.com/page...poleon-complex


--

sf

dsi1 wrote:

> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
> > So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
> >
> > Seriously?
> >
>
> It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year, the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 - amazing!
>
> I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes them feel like they're on a camping trip.
>
> My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals. The hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients were "cured" during the Reagan administration.


Most all chronically homeless have behavioral health issues, especially bi - polar conditions. Many homeless are ex - offenders, who received paltry BH services while imprisoned...they get out and often then receive very little BH care. It's a vicious circle...

--
Best
Greg

On 11/9/2015 9:51 AM, Gregory Morrow wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
>>> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>>>
>>> Seriously?
>>>
>>
>> It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year, the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 - amazing!
>>
>> I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes them feel like they're on a camping trip.
>>
>> My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals. The hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients were "cured" during the Reagan administration.
>
>
> Most all chronically homeless have behavioral health issues, especially bi - polar conditions. Many homeless are ex - offenders, who received paltry BH services while imprisoned...they get out and often then receive very little BH care. It's a vicious circle...
>

My guess is that the state is going to house the homeless families first
and then work on the ones with mental illness. My wife told me that
there's a loose colony of vets living up in the hills of Honolulu. They
used to be Vietnam vets but I'm guessing their numbers have grown some
in recent years. As it goes, they no longer feel they are fit to live in
our society. That's tragic. I haven't the faintest of answers for any of
this.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
>> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>>
>> Seriously?
>>
>
> It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year, the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 - amazing!

Know where it's even pricier?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle17279408/

The million-dollar club isn’t so exclusive in Greater Vancouver, where
the average price for single-family detached houses sold has soared to a
record high of more than $1.36-million.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/03/v...ng-costs-2030/

According to a new study by Vancity, if housing prices continue to rise
without intervention, the average detached home will cost $2.1 million
by 2030. Because incomes will not be rising along with the price of
living, it will take more than 100 per cent of median household income
to put a roof over your head.


All that for rainy, cloudy, cold weather most of the year?

Yikes.


> I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes them feel like they're on a camping trip.

The problem is they WILL come if you build it.

But the article had one sound recommendation:

"Another strategy, approved by lawmakers sees the state offering the
radical solution of offering the homeless a one way ticket back to the
mainland. It is a voluntary program. One which, they believe will be a
way to cut down on the money paid out to the homeless and help families
reunite with loved ones on the mainland.

The strategy has been used by lawmakers in New York and San Francisco..."




> My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals.

Pretty true most anywhere.

> The hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients were "cured" during the Reagan administration.

Did give them amnesty too?

I think most went straight into Congress over here.


The obvious problem is you've got people moving there from arounf
Micronesia just for the benefits they can't get at home.

Hmmm...

Not unlike the mainland in that respect, now is it?

But I think the shipping container housing is a sound idea for your climate.


>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html
>>
>> The governor of Hawaii has declared a 'state of emergency' over the
>> growing homeless problem in the state in a bid to tackle the crisis.
>>
>> Governor David Ige signed an emergency proclamation on Friday to tackle
>> homelessness in Hawaii to help turn around the lives of those living on
>> the streets. He also pledged $1.3 million.
>>
>> He said: 'I will be issuing an emergency proclamation. Homelessness
>> remains a serious issue in every county throughout the state...The
>> biggest deficit in the system is shelter space for families.'
>> ...
>>
>> Officials in Hawaii said it has pledged over $1.3 million to fund
>> homeless services - including setting up permanent homes for families.
>>
>> Ige added: 'We are making sure that we have options for those who are
>> homeless to move into an emergency shelter, and the biggest deficit in
>> the system is shelter space for families.
>>
>> 'So the emergency proclamation would allow us to stand up shelters for
>> families in an expeditious manner.'
>>
>> The state has also recently cleared the Kakaako homeless encampment
>> leading to more than half of the estimated 300 residents of the
>> encampment, including 25 families, moving into shelters and permanent
>> housing.
>>
>> 'They definitely are off the streets and in a better situation where we
>> are in a position to provide them services that will help us move them
>> permanently out of the state of homelessness,' Ige said.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:21:47 -0700, Embudo > wrote:
>
>> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>>
>> Seriously?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html
>
> Napoleon Complex: Co-housing for the antisocial. It's funny, but not
> a joke. http://www.fourlightshouses.com/page...poleon-complex
>
>
LOL!

Odd, but kind of interesting regardless. This whole micro-house
phenomenon has trended lately.

Of course there are all kinds of such communities:

http://www.libertyvillage.com/

http://libertyvillages.org/

But I think you'll agree you have to be very careful when choosing your
future neighbors!

;-0

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
>>> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>>>
>>> Seriously?
>>>
>>
>> It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year, the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 - amazing!
>>
>> I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes them feel like they're on a camping trip.
>>
>> My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals. The hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients were "cured" during the Reagan administration.
>
>
> Most all chronically homeless have behavioral health issues, especially bi - polar conditions. Many homeless are ex - offenders, who received paltry BH services while imprisoned...they get out and often then receive very little BH care. It's a vicious circle...
>

But now they can move to beautiful Hawaii and have all their needs met
by a complicit nanny gubmint.

How cool is that!

dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/9/2015 9:51 AM, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
>>>> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>>>>
>>>> Seriously?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year,
>>> the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 -
>>> amazing!
>>>
>>> I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the
>>> homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can
>>> figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes
>>> them feel like they're on a camping trip.
>>>
>>> My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals. The
>>> hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's
>>> a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients
>>> were "cured" during the Reagan administration.
>>
>>
>> Most all chronically homeless have behavioral health issues,
>> especially bi - polar conditions. Many homeless are ex - offenders,
>> who received paltry BH services while imprisoned...they get out and
>> often then receive very little BH care. It's a vicious circle...
>>
>
> My guess is that the state is going to house the homeless families first
> and then work on the ones with mental illness. My wife told me that
> there's a loose colony of vets living up in the hills of Honolulu. They
> used to be Vietnam vets but I'm guessing their numbers have grown some
> in recent years. As it goes, they no longer feel they are fit to live in
> our society. That's tragic. I haven't the faintest of answers for any of
> this.


There are some backwoods enclaves like this here on the mainland.

Vets band up and move to old ghost towns or decaying trailer parks.

I don't begrudge them their own company.

2 thumbs up:

http://www.documentarywire.com/off-t...e-on-the-mesa/

Twenty-Five miles from town, a million miles from mainstream society, a
loose-knit community of eco-pioneers, teenage runaways, war veterans and
drop-outs, live on the fringe and off the grid, struggling to survive
with little food, less water and no electricity, as they cling to their
unique vision of the American dream.

On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:51:50 -0800 (PST), Gregory Morrow
> wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
>> > So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>> >
>> > Seriously?
>> >
>>
>> It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year, the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 - amazing!
>>
>> I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes them feel like they're on a camping trip.
>>
>> My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals. The hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients were "cured" during the Reagan administration.
>
>
>Most all chronically homeless have behavioral health issues, especially bi - polar conditions.

I wouldn't say most, I'd say many. Most are in fact homeless because
they are scum sucking lazy louts, users/losers who are allergic to
w-o-r-k. If Lazy & Irresponsible are behavioral health issues then so
be it... but it's an excellent reason for their parents to
(hopefully) extract them from their home and put them out on their ass
with best wishes for a Happy Tough Love Life. I have absolutely no
sympathy for the lazy irresponsible homeless, they absolutely choose
to be homeless. Way too many who stand on street corners with their
hand out are pretending to be homeless but live very well on the Grand
a day dumb schmucks toss in their cups. But nevertheless everyone
gets an equal opportunity to support themself, homelessness is mostly
a choice. Now someone who is legitimately disabled I have sympathy
for, but not some douchebag who'd rather be a pothead and then move on
to harder substance abuse. In life everyone makes choices, it's that
simple.

On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 15:45:10 -0700, Embudo > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:21:47 -0700, Embudo > wrote:
> >
> >> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
> >>
> >> Seriously?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html
> >
> > Napoleon Complex: Co-housing for the antisocial. It's funny, but not
> > a joke. http://www.fourlightshouses.com/page...poleon-complex
> >
> >
> LOL!
>
> Odd, but kind of interesting regardless. This whole micro-house
> phenomenon has trended lately.
>
> Of course there are all kinds of such communities:
>
> http://www.libertyvillage.com/
>
> http://libertyvillages.org/
>
> But I think you'll agree you have to be very careful when choosing your
> future neighbors!
>
The good part about the concept seems to be that they are renting the
space although they own the home) and there are rules to abide with.
Can't do it, move out.


--

sf

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 15:45:10 -0700, Embudo > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:21:47 -0700, Embudo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>>>>
>>>> Seriously?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html
>>>
>>> Napoleon Complex: Co-housing for the antisocial. It's funny, but not
>>> a joke. http://www.fourlightshouses.com/page...poleon-complex
>>>
>>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Odd, but kind of interesting regardless. This whole micro-house
>> phenomenon has trended lately.
>>
>> Of course there are all kinds of such communities:
>>
>> http://www.libertyvillage.com/
>>
>> http://libertyvillages.org/
>>
>> But I think you'll agree you have to be very careful when choosing your
>> future neighbors!
>>
> The good part about the concept seems to be that they are renting the
> space although they own the home) and there are rules to abide with.
> Can't do it, move out.
>
>
I find it deliciously ironic to have a laid back Cali mini home park
contrasted in the same breath with a gun-toting uber-right survivalist
encampment.

Life presents such strikingly similar misfires.

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 2:28:12 PM UTC-8, Embudo wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
> >> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
> >>
> >> Seriously?
> >>
> >
> > It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year, the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 - amazing!
>
> Know where it's even pricier?
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle17279408/
>
> The million-dollar club isn't so exclusive in Greater Vancouver, where
> the average price for single-family detached houses sold has soared to a
> record high of more than $1.36-million.
>
> http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/03/v...ng-costs-2030/
>
> According to a new study by Vancity, if housing prices continue to rise
> without intervention, the average detached home will cost $2.1 million
> by 2030. Because incomes will not be rising along with the price of
> living, it will take more than 100 per cent of median household income
> to put a roof over your head.
>
>
> All that for rainy, cloudy, cold weather most of the year?
>
> Yikes.ada

Everything is relative. Eastern Canada's "Sun Parlour" is across
Lake Erie from Sandusky, Ohio (not related to the Penn State pervert).
Vancouver is the most temperate part of Canada. A great place to retire,
if you are used to winters in Edmonton or Winnipeg.

>
>
> > I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes them feel like they're on a camping trip.
>
> The problem is they WILL come if you build it.
>
> But the article had one sound recommendation:
>
> "Another strategy, approved by lawmakers sees the state offering the
> radical solution of offering the homeless a one way ticket back to the
> mainland. It is a voluntary program. One which, they believe will be a
> way to cut down on the money paid out to the homeless and help families
> reunite with loved ones on the mainland.
>
> The strategy has been used by lawmakers in New York and San Francisco..."

This is BS, at least regarding San Francisco. There, homeless are a
protected species, even though they grow more numerous all the time.
As with other cities, supportive housing is being built for the fragile
homeless, while the more rambunctious are allowed to camp on unused
property.


>
> > My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals.
>
> Pretty true most anywhere.
>
> > The hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients were "cured" during the Reagan administration.
>

Asylums for the retarded and the insane were closed down during Reagan's
time as Governor of California. They were largely hellholes -- think
Cuckoo's Nest.

But community care for the mentally ill has not worked. Even if they
have a job and a place to live, people who take pills to stay sane
dislike the pills and stop taking them. Then they start acting out
on the job and lose both job and housing.

OTOH, a network of centers for the "developmentally disabled"
was set up in counties throughout California, to provide services
to help parents take care of their children at home. The skyrocketing
number of autism diagnoses has kept them extra busy. These centers
seem to be a success.

The remaining residential centers for the retarded have a hard
time keeping child abusers off the staff.

> Did give them amnesty too?
>
> I think most went straight into Congress over here.
>
>
> The obvious problem is you've got people moving there from arounf
> Micronesia just for the benefits they can't get at home.
>
> Hmmm...
>
> Not unlike the mainland in that respect, now is it?
>
> But I think the shipping container housing is a sound idea for your climate.
>
>
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html
> >>
> >> The governor of Hawaii has declared a 'state of emergency' over the
> >> growing homeless problem in the state in a bid to tackle the crisis.
> >>
> >> Governor David Ige signed an emergency proclamation on Friday to tackle
> >> homelessness in Hawaii to help turn around the lives of those living on
> >> the streets. He also pledged $1.3 million.
> >>
> >> He said: 'I will be issuing an emergency proclamation. Homelessness
> >> remains a serious issue in every county throughout the state...The
> >> biggest deficit in the system is shelter space for families.'
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Officials in Hawaii said it has pledged over $1.3 million to fund
> >> homeless services - including setting up permanent homes for families.
> >>
> >> Ige added: 'We are making sure that we have options for those who are
> >> homeless to move into an emergency shelter, and the biggest deficit in
> >> the system is shelter space for families.
> >>
> >> 'So the emergency proclamation would allow us to stand up shelters for
> >> families in an expeditious manner.'
> >>
> >> The state has also recently cleared the Kakaako homeless encampment
> >> leading to more than half of the estimated 300 residents of the
> >> encampment, including 25 families, moving into shelters and permanent
> >> housing.
> >>
> >> 'They definitely are off the streets and in a better situation where we
> >> are in a position to provide them services that will help us move them
> >> permanently out of the state of homelessness,' Ige said.

wrote:
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 2:28:12 PM UTC-8, Embudo wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-10, Embudo wrote:
>>>> So the solution is - if you build it they'll stop coming?!??
>>>>
>>>> Seriously?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's certainly a hard knock life - round here. Sometime this year, the average cost of a single family home will probably hit $700,000 - amazing!
>>
>> Know where it's even pricier?
>>
>> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle17279408/
>>
>> The million-dollar club isn't so exclusive in Greater Vancouver, where
>> the average price for single-family detached houses sold has soared to a
>> record high of more than $1.36-million.
>>
>> http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/03/v...ng-costs-2030/
>>
>> According to a new study by Vancity, if housing prices continue to rise
>> without intervention, the average detached home will cost $2.1 million
>> by 2030. Because incomes will not be rising along with the price of
>> living, it will take more than 100 per cent of median household income
>> to put a roof over your head.
>>
>>
>> All that for rainy, cloudy, cold weather most of the year?
>>
>> Yikes.ada
>
> Everything is relative. Eastern Canada's "Sun Parlour" is across
> Lake Erie from Sandusky, Ohio (not related to the Penn State pervert).
> Vancouver is the most temperate part of Canada. A great place to retire,
> if you are used to winters in Edmonton or Winnipeg.

Relative to the above, yes, that's an internal valuation.

But why not choose Hawaii?

It's a comparative value play.

>>
>>
>>> I don't have any problem with building shelters. Hopefully the homeless will want to live in these constructions. Near as I can figure, those guys like living next to the beaches. I guess it makes them feel like they're on a camping trip.
>>
>> The problem is they WILL come if you build it.
>>
>> But the article had one sound recommendation:
>>
>> "Another strategy, approved by lawmakers sees the state offering the
>> radical solution of offering the homeless a one way ticket back to the
>> mainland. It is a voluntary program. One which, they believe will be a
>> way to cut down on the money paid out to the homeless and help families
>> reunite with loved ones on the mainland.
>>
>> The strategy has been used by lawmakers in New York and San Francisco..."
>
> This is BS, at least regarding San Francisco.

They may have tried it briefly, hard to say.


> There, homeless are a
> protected species, even though they grow more numerous all the time.

True enough.

> As with other cities, supportive housing is being built for the fragile
> homeless, while the more rambunctious are allowed to camp on unused
> property.

Which is a mess.

>>
>>> My guess is that a lot of them should be in psych hospitals.
>>
>> Pretty true most anywhere.
>>
>>> The hospital nearby used to have thousands of patients. These days, it's a couple of hundred. My understanding is that most of the patients were "cured" during the Reagan administration.
>>
>
> Asylums for the retarded and the insane were closed down during Reagan's
> time as Governor of California. They were largely hellholes -- think
> Cuckoo's Nest.

So it was a humane act?

> But community care for the mentally ill has not worked. Even if they
> have a job and a place to live, people who take pills to stay sane
> dislike the pills and stop taking them. Then they start acting out
> on the job and lose both job and housing.

Sound analysis.

> OTOH, a network of centers for the "developmentally disabled"
> was set up in counties throughout California, to provide services
> to help parents take care of their children at home. The skyrocketing
> number of autism diagnoses has kept them extra busy. These centers
> seem to be a success.

Good for them.

> The remaining residential centers for the retarded have a hard
> time keeping child abusers off the staff.

That is depressing.

>
>> Did give them amnesty too?
>>
>> I think most went straight into Congress over here.
>>
>>
>> The obvious problem is you've got people moving there from arounf
>> Micronesia just for the benefits they can't get at home.
>>
>> Hmmm...
>>
>> Not unlike the mainland in that respect, now is it?
>>
>> But I think the shipping container housing is a sound idea for your climate.
>>
>>
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-crisis.html
>>>>
>>>> The governor of Hawaii has declared a 'state of emergency' over the
>>>> growing homeless problem in the state in a bid to tackle the crisis.
>>>>
>>>> Governor David Ige signed an emergency proclamation on Friday to tackle
>>>> homelessness in Hawaii to help turn around the lives of those living on
>>>> the streets. He also pledged $1.3 million.
>>>>
>>>> He said: 'I will be issuing an emergency proclamation. Homelessness
>>>> remains a serious issue in every county throughout the state...The
>>>> biggest deficit in the system is shelter space for families.'
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Officials in Hawaii said it has pledged over $1.3 million to fund
>>>> homeless services - including setting up permanent homes for families.
>>>>
>>>> Ige added: 'We are making sure that we have options for those who are
>>>> homeless to move into an emergency shelter, and the biggest deficit in
>>>> the system is shelter space for families.
>>>>
>>>> 'So the emergency proclamation would allow us to stand up shelters for
>>>> families in an expeditious manner.'
>>>>
>>>> The state has also recently cleared the Kakaako homeless encampment
>>>> leading to more than half of the estimated 300 residents of the
>>>> encampment, including 25 families, moving into shelters and permanent
>>>> housing.
>>>>
>>>> 'They definitely are off the streets and in a better situation where we
>>>> are in a position to provide them services that will help us move them
>>>> permanently out of the state of homelessness,' Ige said.
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