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On 11/11/2015 7:51 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-11-11 6:52 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) >> >> That is funny. Most Americans' experience with fruitcake is this (or >> something similar): >> >> <http://www.amazon.com/Fruit-Cake-Boxed-Claxton-Fruitcake/dp/B000YGMK1W/ref=pd_bxgy_325_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=152DFBXMGF7VK BRBWZ6K> >> >> >> Those crummy things are often purchased as gifts for people one doesn't >> know very well, or as hostess gifts when visiting at the holidays. > > Those things explain why so many people dislike fruitcake. Even the best > ones aren't very good. They may look a bit like home made but they > don't taste like it. > 35+ years ago we had a neighbour who included jellybabies in the fruit mix. Graham -- "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence." George Orwell |
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On 11/11/2015 1:04 PM, graham wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 7:51 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >> Those things explain why so many people dislike fruitcake. Even the best >> ones aren't very good. They may look a bit like home made but they >> don't taste like it. >> > 35+ years ago we had a neighbour who included jellybabies in the fruit mix. > Ick. |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > > It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started making > fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to me, > 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I don't make them anymore. One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a slice of cheddar cheese. -- sf |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:50:44 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > It seems such a waste of effort and good food. You have to really, really, really want fruitcake to do it just for yourself... and I'm just about there this year. YOLO -- sf |
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On 11/11/2015 11:47 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 1:04 PM, graham wrote: >> On 11/11/2015 7:51 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>> Those things explain why so many people dislike fruitcake. Even the best >>> ones aren't very good. They may look a bit like home made but they >>> don't taste like it. >>> >> 35+ years ago we had a neighbour who included jellybabies in the fruit >> mix. >> > Ick. > She was a nurse and believing that fruits were good for the teeth, often sent her kids to bed with half of a banana!! Graham -- "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence." George Orwell |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: >> >> >> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started making >> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to >> me, >> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) > > In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with > doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than > fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde > style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family > that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I > don't make them anymore. > > One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a > slice of cheddar cheese. It is the only way I eat fruit cake. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:50:04 -0700, Janet B >
wrote: >On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:45:08 -0000, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > > >snip >> >>I don't make them any more because we don't eat them now, but I used to make >>Christmas cakes and Christmas puddings every three years. Full of alcohol >>they store really well and are much better for it:) Always better the second >>and third year <g> > >I used to make fruitcake and give them Then all the jokes about >fruitcake started going the rounds, so I stopped. Then I made stollen >and wasn't sure about their reception. I no longer make stollen. If >I were to bake for us, I would start springerle and lebkuchen now and >keep it all. I just don't bake sweets anymore (2009 was the last >year) as we don't need the sugar or calories. >Janet US I used to make a large dark fruit cake for Xmas and it lasted almost to Easter with David cutting himself a slab here and there! |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:00:56 -0700, graham > wrote:
>On 11/11/2015 8:13 AM, wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:32:23 -0500, Gary > wrote: >> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> When you get it home, pierce with a skewer or toothpick and sprinkle >>>> booze of your choice over it, wait a couple of days. >>> >>> Problem is: I have NO booze of choice. I never drink any hard liquor. >>> Would maybe an apple brandy work? That sounds doable. :) >> >> If you're a beer drinker, a nice stout would be excellent. >> >For fruit cakes, I soaked the fruit in sherry. For xmas puddings I used >Guiness. >Graham I used to soak the fruit for 24 hours but also added more to the mix then of course, fed the cakes from time to time in storage. |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:54:07 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" > >wrote: >> >> >> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started making >> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to me, >> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) > >In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with >doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than >fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde >style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family >that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I >don't make them anymore. > >One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a >slice of cheddar cheese. There is not any cheddar that can live up to a good, well made dark fruit cake. Might do with one of those 'light' fruit cakes you have in the USA but not with dark fruit. |
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On 2015-11-11 11:35 AM, William wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:43:53 -0500, Dave Smith > > wrote: > >> It's that time of year. It is a really crappy fall day here. That makes >> it a good day to spend in the kitchen. It is also the time that we have >> to start working on Christmas fruitcakes. We picked up the ingredients >> for ours on the weekend. I made two batches today. I started one this >> morning and it was done in time for me to get out to the gym for a >> while. I came home, mixed up the second batch and got it into the oven. >> It should be cooked soon. That gives it about 6 weeks to set up in time >> for the holidays. > > Has anybody tried one of these: > http://allrecipes.com/recipe/9319/white-fruit-cake/ > > > I tried some one time and it was much better than ordinary fruit > cakes. > That is close to the one I make. > |
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On 2015-11-11 11:50 AM, Janet B wrote:
> I used to make fruitcake and give them Then all the jokes about > fruitcake started going the rounds, so I stopped. That is why I give mine only to those who I know really like fruitcake. > Then I made stollen > and wasn't sure about their reception. I no longer make stollen. If > I were to bake for us, I would start springerle and lebkuchen now and > keep it all. I just don't bake sweets anymore (2009 was the last > year) as we don't need the sugar or calories. I have never had a home made Stollen. I like it, but I could see a lot of people not liking it. It may or may not be an acquired taste. My best friend was German and I had lots of it when I was a kid. |
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On 2015-11-11 12:41 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> I've made excellent fruit cake using only dried figs. I also really > love a good date nut loaf. My mom used to bake them in saved coffee > cans... cut bottom lid and push out, round slices with cream cheese, > can't stop eating. > We had lots of date nut loaf when I was a kid. It's probably 30-40 years since the last time I had any. I used to like it. |
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On 2015-11-11 12:45 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> I plan to experiment soon with finding a good honey/bourbon bbq sauce. >> I may or may not want to eliminate the alcohol content. I bought a >> pint of the bourbon about a month ago but still haven't started the >> experiments. > > They sell rum flavoring... a few drops in apple juice works. > Rum flavouring is disgusting, and it doesn't even taste like rum. |
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> wrote in message ... > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:54:07 -0800, sf > wrote: > >>On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>wrote: >>> >>> >>> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started >>> making >>> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to >>> me, >>> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) >> >>In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with >>doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than >>fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde >>style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family >>that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I >>don't make them anymore. >> >>One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a >>slice of cheddar cheese. > > There is not any cheddar that can live up to a good, well made dark > fruit cake. Might do with one of those 'light' fruit cakes you have > in the USA but not with dark fruit. Oh I have cheese with any fruit cake. I never iced or marzipanned the cakes, just almonds for decoration. Dundee cake! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:50:04 -0700, Janet B >
wrote: > Then I made stollen > and wasn't sure about their reception. I no longer make stollen. Oh, I like stollen! Although fruitcake takes longer to make, I thought it was fussier when I made it many moons ago. Maybe I'll have a different attitude now what I'm comfortable with yeast dough. -- sf |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 10:35:44 AM UTC-6, BigC300 wrote:
> > Has anybody tried one of these: > http://allrecipes.com/recipe/9319/white-fruit-cake/ > > > I tried some one time and it was much better than ordinary fruit > cakes. > > William > > That's pretty much the recipe I use with the exception of the orange juice. I do use orange extract though. |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:32:23 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> wrote: > > > > When you get it home, pierce with a skewer or toothpick and sprinkle > > booze of your choice over it, wait a couple of days. > > Problem is: I have NO booze of choice. I never drink any hard liquor. > Would maybe an apple brandy work? That sounds doable. :) Applejack is fine, Calvados is better. -- sf |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:00:56 -0700, graham > wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 8:13 AM, wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:32:23 -0500, Gary > wrote: > > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> When you get it home, pierce with a skewer or toothpick and sprinkle > >>> booze of your choice over it, wait a couple of days. > >> > >> Problem is: I have NO booze of choice. I never drink any hard liquor. > >> Would maybe an apple brandy work? That sounds doable. :) > > > > If you're a beer drinker, a nice stout would be excellent. > > > For fruit cakes, I soaked the fruit in sherry. For xmas puddings I used > Guiness. > Graham My personal choice for fruitcake is rum. -- sf |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:38 -0500, William > wrote:
> Has anybody tried one of these: > http://allrecipes.com/recipe/9319/white-fruit-cake/ > > > I tried some one time and it was much better than ordinary fruit > cakes. That's the type I prefer and if I made this recipe I'd use even less fruit/nuts than shown. -- sf |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 11:59:45 AM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> > When I used to make xmas cakes (too calorific these days) I used these > to inject Grand Marnier or Cognac into them: > http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...at=1,110,42967 > Graham > > I've got a metal baster that came with a large 'hypodermic' needle; rhat would work, I'd think. I originally bought it to use for rum cakes but the sugary syrup just wouldn't co-operate when I used that syringe. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: >> >> >> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started making >> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to >> me, >> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) > > In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with > doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than > fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde > style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family > that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I > don't make them anymore. > > One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a > slice of cheddar cheese. > > -- > > sf I usually make a couple of my deceased mother in laws recipe at Christmas. They are white fruit cakes, with no citron and I like them a lot. This is the recipe she used: 2 pounds butter at room temperature 4 cups sugar 12 eggs separated (save whites for later in recipe) 2 oz pure lemon extract 8 cups flour 2 pounds golden raisins 1 pound candied cherries (a combination of green and red looks pretty) 1 pound candied pineapple 2 lbs of walnuts or combination of nuts of choice In large bowl cream butter and sugar until light, add beaten egg yolks a little at a time. Add flour one cup at a time until blended, then add lemon extract. Rough chop fruit and nuts, lightly dust them with flour, and stir into mixture. Don't use a mixer for this step or your mixture will turn color from the cherries. Beat egg whites until medium soft peak stage and carefully fold into mixture. Line loaf pans with double sheets of cut up brown grocery bag paper and grease paper, this keeps the loaves from developing a crust and keeps them light. Bake at 275 for 1 to 1 1/2 hours depending on loaf size, or until a toothpick comes out fairly clean when inserted in the middle. Don't overcook. Makes 6 loaves and recipe can easily be halved for smaller amount. |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:07:26 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2015-11-11 12:45 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: > >>> I plan to experiment soon with finding a good honey/bourbon bbq sauce. >>> I may or may not want to eliminate the alcohol content. I bought a >>> pint of the bourbon about a month ago but still haven't started the >>> experiments. >> >> They sell rum flavoring... a few drops in apple juice works. >> > > >Rum flavouring is disgusting, and it doesn't even taste like rum. I second that. |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:10:32 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > > wrote in message .. . >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:54:07 -0800, sf > wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started >>>> making >>>> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to >>>> me, >>>> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) >>> >>>In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with >>>doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than >>>fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde >>>style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family >>>that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I >>>don't make them anymore. >>> >>>One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a >>>slice of cheddar cheese. >> >> There is not any cheddar that can live up to a good, well made dark >> fruit cake. Might do with one of those 'light' fruit cakes you have >> in the USA but not with dark fruit. > >Oh I have cheese with any fruit cake. I never iced or marzipanned the >cakes, just almonds for decoration. Dundee cake! Dundee is fine for me, David liked the full deal with marzipan and royal icing but cheese, nada, fruit cake in its own right. |
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> wrote in message ... > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:10:32 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> > wrote in message . .. >>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:54:07 -0800, sf > wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started >>>>> making >>>>> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to >>>>> me, >>>>> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) >>>> >>>>In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with >>>>doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than >>>>fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde >>>>style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family >>>>that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I >>>>don't make them anymore. >>>> >>>>One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a >>>>slice of cheddar cheese. >>> >>> There is not any cheddar that can live up to a good, well made dark >>> fruit cake. Might do with one of those 'light' fruit cakes you have >>> in the USA but not with dark fruit. >> >>Oh I have cheese with any fruit cake. I never iced or marzipanned the >>cakes, just almonds for decoration. Dundee cake! > > Dundee is fine for me, David liked the full deal with marzipan and > royal icing but cheese, nada, fruit cake in its own right. :)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 11/11/2015 1:38 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 11:59:45 AM UTC-6, graham wrote: >> >> When I used to make xmas cakes (too calorific these days) I used these >> to inject Grand Marnier or Cognac into them: >> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...at=1,110,42967 >> Graham >> >> > I've got a metal baster that came with a large 'hypodermic' > needle; rhat would work, I'd think. I originally bought it > to use for rum cakes but the sugary syrup just wouldn't > co-operate when I used that syringe. > The trick is to start depressing the plunger/squeezing the bulb as you penetrate the cake. Otherwise the needle gets plugged up. Graham -- "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence." George Orwell |
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On 11/11/2015 1:55 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > "sf" > wrote in message > ... >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started >>> making >>> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said >>> to me, >>> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' :)) >> >> In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with >> doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than >> fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde >> style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family >> that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I >> don't make them anymore. >> >> One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a >> slice of cheddar cheese. >> >> -- >> >> sf > > I usually make a couple of my deceased mother in laws recipe at > Christmas. They are white fruit cakes, with no citron and I like them a > lot. > > This is the recipe she used: > > 2 pounds butter at room temperature > 4 cups sugar > 12 eggs separated (save whites for later in recipe) > 2 oz pure lemon extract > 8 cups flour > 2 pounds golden raisins > 1 pound candied cherries (a combination of green and red looks pretty) > 1 pound candied pineapple > 2 lbs of walnuts or combination of nuts of choice > > In large bowl cream butter and sugar until light, add beaten egg yolks a > little at a time. > > Add flour one cup at a time until blended, then add lemon extract. Rough > chop fruit and nuts, lightly dust them with flour, and stir into mixture. > Don't use a mixer for this step or your mixture will turn color from the > cherries. > > Beat egg whites until medium soft peak stage and carefully fold into > mixture. > That's an intriguing idea! Graham -- "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence." George Orwell |
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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 2015-11-11 12:41 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: > > > I've made excellent fruit cake using only dried figs. I also really > > love a good date nut loaf. My mom used to bake them in saved coffee > > cans... cut bottom lid and push out, round slices with cream cheese, > > can't stop eating. > > > > We had lots of date nut loaf when I was a kid. It's probably 30-40 > years since the last time I had any. I used to like it. Oh I loved those! Mom got them in a can and we'd open both ends, push it out and nibble slices with cream cheese. -- |
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I would use an orange or other fruit liqueur....but I don't like any
Alcohol in the plum pudding (not fruitcake) I make, and don't eat fruitcake because it usually has tree nuts, which I am allergic to. N. |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 4:00:18 PM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, > says... > > > > >I have 4 or 5 in the freezer and they should be soaked, > > >just not sure what to soak them in. I don't want a > > >strong alcohol taste. > > > > If they are dark fruit cake, they should not be in suspended animation > > in the freezer. They have to be at room temperature to 'mature'. > > + 99 > > Janet UK > > No, these are white fruitcakes. |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 7:17:40 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
> > I would use an orange or other fruit liqueur....but I don't like any > Alcohol in the plum pudding (not fruitcake) I make, and don't eat > fruitcake because it usually has tree nuts, which I am allergic to. > > N. > > How does triple sec sound?? It's an orange liqueur and should I dilute it?? |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:41:28 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote: snip > >I've made excellent fruit cake using only dried figs. I also really >love a good date nut loaf. My mom used to bake them in saved coffee >cans... cut bottom lid and push out, round slices with cream cheese, >can't stop eating. I make Boston Brown Bread in coffee cans. I have 3 1-pound Chock Full O Nuts cans. I haven't removed the bottom. A knife slipped between the can and bread will loosen the baked bread. Janet US |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:27:58 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:50:04 -0700, Janet B > >wrote: > >> Then I made stollen >> and wasn't sure about their reception. I no longer make stollen. > >Oh, I like stollen! Although fruitcake takes longer to make, I >thought it was fussier when I made it many moons ago. Maybe I'll have >a different attitude now what I'm comfortable with yeast dough. Although basically the same thing, there are several different ways to go about putting one together. You might want to check the Web to see which way you want to go. I like a stronger dough with a light texture/ I don't do a roll of marzipan in the length of the stollen. Janet US |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:17:37 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote: >I would use an orange or other fruit liqueur....but I don't like any >Alcohol in the plum pudding (not fruitcake) I make, and don't eat >fruitcake because it usually has tree nuts, which I am allergic to. > >N. The pud definitely needs alcohol, else how is it going to light properly for serving? |
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> wrote in message ... > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:17:37 -0800 (PST), Nancy2 > > wrote: > >>I would use an orange or other fruit liqueur....but I don't like any >>Alcohol in the plum pudding (not fruitcake) I make, and don't eat >>fruitcake because it usually has tree nuts, which I am allergic to. >> >>N. > > The pud definitely needs alcohol, else how is it going to light > properly for serving? Good point:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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