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Cheri wrote:

> Have a great day tomorrow.
>
> Cheri


The merriest of Christmases to you!
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> Gary and others, Sears used to be the most egregious employer who used
> only part time workers except for just a few managers. Our area had a
> "B" size store, and they had a couple hundred part timers,
> and only two full time who received benefits.
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> N.
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Let's hear it for Monkey Wards!
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On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 2:19:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
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> > "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > These spots are pretty easy to find if the room is empty and you're
> > > looking for it. My office is pretty much gutted.

> >
> > Why? Did I miss you talking about it?

>
> He never mentioned it that I know of. Sounds like he burned his office
> down or something.


I didn't do nothing, nobody saw nothing, you can't prove anything.
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On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 1:58:35 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
>
> > These spots are pretty easy to find if the room is empty and you're
> > looking for it. My office is pretty much gutted.

>
> Why? Did I miss you talking about it?
>
>
> I suspect that the insurance money for the furnishings will not be showing
> up in the near future. I'm gonna have to use plan "B" - just as soon as I
> can figure out what that is!
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Last Friday the 13th, the office got flooded. The free standing walls, flooring, and furniture was dumped. All the shared drywall was removed up to 18 inches or so was dumped. I guess I never mentioned that. I'm not too worried about it - I can't say why.
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> I hope you called your homeowner's insurance. You can (at least I
> could) claim the contents of your freezer/refrigerator.


Homeowner's insurance has a rather low cap on how much they'll pay for
spoiled food, like $50, plus just about every policy has a deductible
that needs to be met before they'll pay a dime. Before insurance will
pay for spoiled food you'd need a commercial policy like what food
stores have, and those are very expensive. When Hurricane Gloria hit
Long Island on September 27, 1985 we were without power for 11 days,
no one's homeowner's insurance paid for spoiled food. We all made
giant bbqs, even fed everyone's pets. I remember the date and the
surrounding circumstances well because it was my daughter's 16th
birthday, her party was cancelled.


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On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 12:34:18 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Janet B wrote:
>>
>> I hope you called your homeowner's insurance. You can (at least I
>> could) claim the contents of your freezer/refrigerator.

>
>Homeowner's insurance has a rather low cap on how much they'll pay for
>spoiled food, like $50, plus just about every policy has a deductible
>that needs to be met before they'll pay a dime. Before insurance will
>pay for spoiled food you'd need a commercial policy like what food
>stores have, and those are very expensive. When Hurricane Gloria hit
>Long Island on September 27, 1985 we were without power for 11 days,
>no one's homeowner's insurance paid for spoiled food. We all made
>giant bbqs, even fed everyone's pets. I remember the date and the
>surrounding circumstances well because it was my daughter's 16th
>birthday, her party was cancelled.


I was told to just add up what was in my refrigerator and freezer and
let them know. They included the items that I caught fishing and the
items that I froze from my garden. I went to the grocery store and
used prices on fish, herbs and vegetables there to come up with a
number for the items that I had prepared. I gave them the number
over the phone and they sent me a check for over $500. I never lie
here or discombobulate, so what I am telling is the truth. I suggest
you get better insurance.
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"Janet B" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 12:34:18 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>>Janet B wrote:
>>>
>>> I hope you called your homeowner's insurance. You can (at least I
>>> could) claim the contents of your freezer/refrigerator.

>>
>>Homeowner's insurance has a rather low cap on how much they'll pay for
>>spoiled food, like $50, plus just about every policy has a deductible
>>that needs to be met before they'll pay a dime. Before insurance will
>>pay for spoiled food you'd need a commercial policy like what food
>>stores have, and those are very expensive. When Hurricane Gloria hit
>>Long Island on September 27, 1985 we were without power for 11 days,
>>no one's homeowner's insurance paid for spoiled food. We all made
>>giant bbqs, even fed everyone's pets. I remember the date and the
>>surrounding circumstances well because it was my daughter's 16th
>>birthday, her party was cancelled.

>
> I was told to just add up what was in my refrigerator and freezer and
> let them know. They included the items that I caught fishing and the
> items that I froze from my garden. I went to the grocery store and
> used prices on fish, herbs and vegetables there to come up with a
> number for the items that I had prepared. I gave them the number
> over the phone and they sent me a check for over $500. I never lie
> here or discombobulate, so what I am telling is the truth. I suggest
> you get better insurance.
> Janet US


When I got my last fridge I bought insurance for it for five years, which
covers up to 500.00 worth of spoilage. It didn't cost much as I recall and
the last time was a good lesson.

Cheri

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On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 06:15:27 -0700, Janet B >
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> I hope you called your homeowner's insurance. You can (at least I
> could) claim the contents of your freezer/refrigerator.
> Janet US


That probably depends on the deductible... ours is a high one.

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 12:08:17 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:14:23 PM UTC-5, Abiquiu wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> I pay my housecleaner about $40 per hour.
> >>
> >> Whoa...talk about DISPOSABLE income....

> >
> > Yep. It's mine to dispose of as I please.

>
> Well yeah, of course.
>
> > I might have been the only student at my university with a maid.

>
> I can believe that.
>
> > When I returned to school part-time after I married and we bought a house
> > my husband said, "Let's get someone to clean the house, since you're
> > working full-time as well as going to school."
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

>
> Sounds like Koch Brothers grade class-ism to me...
>
> Is the red Ferrari sporting a wreath?


I call it being practical. They clearly value living in a clean home
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 10:09:27 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:41:21 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:28:36 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> sf wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:09:11 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> sf wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:47:10 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Didn't the US always have strong labor unions? Why do they allow Walmart
> >>>>>>>> to pay employees too little to live off?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Walmart thrives in "Right to Work" states, which is code for "union
> >>>>>>> busting" states, but their citizens are too ignorant to understand
> >>>>>>> that nuance.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> More work, less jobs to china.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> More people on welfare in spite of having a job.
> >>>>>
> >>>> More people with ANY work at all.
> >>>
> >>> Woop tee do.
> >>>
> >> Beats sitting at home with a SNAP card and daytime TV, by a lot!

> >
> > Part time work at best, hours varying weekly, lucky to have a TV....
> > and still on SNAP.
> >

>
> Oh no, almost EVERYONE has TV, in fact the number of welfare recipients
> with a cell phone, cable, even a gaming console is astounding.


How many poor people do you know?

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 10:10:31 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:42:48 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:29:49 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> sf wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:11:29 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> sf wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Try Trader Joe's Olive Oil potato chips sometime. Only $2 a bag.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Those worry me some, what is the taste like?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not a potato chip lover by any measure, but I know what they taste
> >>>>> like because hubby buys them and I think they taste terrific. They
> >>>>> are not oily like other potato chips and very potatoey tasting (if
> >>>>> potatoey is a word). It will be well worth the $2 to experiment.
> >>>>>
> >>>> If they taste potatoey (word is ok by me) then I'm in.
> >>>>
> >>>> Definitely worth a try, tnx!
> >>>
> >>> Opinions vary by person, but please let me know what you think - even
> >>> if it's a negative.
> >>
> >> Will do.
> >>
> >> It may be a while, Trader Joe's this time of year is a madhouse.
> >>

> > Interestingly, I was there today. Maybe it was a bit more crowded
> > than the usual mid-afternoon, but not by much and I was 3rd in line at
> > the checkout. One person at the cash register, one more and me.

>
> Wow, NoCal apathy?
>

Apathy? How did you come up with that?

> Down here it's not quite the only game in town.


Seriously?

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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 12:08:17 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:14:23 PM UTC-5, Abiquiu wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> I pay my housecleaner about $40 per hour.
>>>>
>>>> Whoa...talk about DISPOSABLE income....
>>>
>>> Yep. It's mine to dispose of as I please.

>>
>> Well yeah, of course.
>>
>>> I might have been the only student at my university with a maid.

>>
>> I can believe that.
>>
>>> When I returned to school part-time after I married and we bought a house
>>> my husband said, "Let's get someone to clean the house, since you're
>>> working full-time as well as going to school."
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton

>>
>> Sounds like Koch Brothers grade class-ism to me...
>>
>> Is the red Ferrari sporting a wreath?

>
> I call it being practical.


Iff'n one can afford that as a luxury expenditure.

> They clearly value living in a clean home
> environment.


If not making it so hands on...

> Your priorities might be different.


Nope.

But my budget could well be...

The days of swept mud and linseed oiled floors are long since gone
'round here...

Merry X-Mas, sf!

...tossin' another stick of pecan in the old horno for the pork roast...


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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 10:09:27 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:41:21 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:28:36 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:09:11 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:47:10 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Didn't the US always have strong labor unions? Why do they allow Walmart
>>>>>>>>>> to pay employees too little to live off?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Walmart thrives in "Right to Work" states, which is code for "union
>>>>>>>>> busting" states, but their citizens are too ignorant to understand
>>>>>>>>> that nuance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More work, less jobs to china.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More people on welfare in spite of having a job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> More people with ANY work at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Woop tee do.
>>>>>
>>>> Beats sitting at home with a SNAP card and daytime TV, by a lot!
>>>
>>> Part time work at best, hours varying weekly, lucky to have a TV....
>>> and still on SNAP.
>>>

>>
>> Oh no, almost EVERYONE has TV, in fact the number of welfare recipients
>> with a cell phone, cable, even a gaming console is astounding.

>
> How many poor people do you know?
>

A measure more than I'd think is healthy in a modern world.

They mostly swap for stuff I'd call older but still is pretty modern.
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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 10:10:31 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:42:48 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:29:49 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:11:29 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try Trader Joe's Olive Oil potato chips sometime. Only $2 a bag.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those worry me some, what is the taste like?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not a potato chip lover by any measure, but I know what they taste
>>>>>>> like because hubby buys them and I think they taste terrific. They
>>>>>>> are not oily like other potato chips and very potatoey tasting (if
>>>>>>> potatoey is a word). It will be well worth the $2 to experiment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they taste potatoey (word is ok by me) then I'm in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definitely worth a try, tnx!
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions vary by person, but please let me know what you think - even
>>>>> if it's a negative.
>>>>
>>>> Will do.
>>>>
>>>> It may be a while, Trader Joe's this time of year is a madhouse.
>>>>
>>> Interestingly, I was there today. Maybe it was a bit more crowded
>>> than the usual mid-afternoon, but not by much and I was 3rd in line at
>>> the checkout. One person at the cash register, one more and me.

>>
>> Wow, NoCal apathy?
>>

> Apathy? How did you come up with that?


I figure it was due to spread up from La La land just like it did to
Redwood City.

>> Down here it's not quite the only game in town.

>
> Seriously?


Almost.

https://www.naturalgrocers.com/

And of course there's whole foods.

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On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 15:08:55 -0700, el dia del Cristo >
wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 12:08:17 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:14:23 PM UTC-5, Abiquiu wrote:
> >>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>> I pay my housecleaner about $40 per hour.
> >>>>
> >>>> Whoa...talk about DISPOSABLE income....
> >>>
> >>> Yep. It's mine to dispose of as I please.
> >>
> >> Well yeah, of course.
> >>
> >>> I might have been the only student at my university with a maid.
> >>
> >> I can believe that.
> >>
> >>> When I returned to school part-time after I married and we bought a house
> >>> my husband said, "Let's get someone to clean the house, since you're
> >>> working full-time as well as going to school."
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> Sounds like Koch Brothers grade class-ism to me...
> >>
> >> Is the red Ferrari sporting a wreath?

> >
> > I call it being practical.

>
> Iff'n one can afford that as a luxury expenditure.
>
> > They clearly value living in a clean home
> > environment.

>
> If not making it so hands on...
>
> > Your priorities might be different.

>
> Nope.
>
> But my budget could well be...
>
> The days of swept mud and linseed oiled floors are long since gone
> 'round here...
>
> Merry X-Mas, sf!
>
> ..tossin' another stick of pecan in the old horno for the pork roast...
>


Merry Christmas to you too. We had our big xmas dinner last night.
This morning was a low key xmas breakfast, followed by more present
opening. Son-I-L took the kids outside for an hour or so and now
we're just hanging out - everyone is watching basketball and you know
what I'm doing. Think I'll make a pot of caldo verde in a bit for the
gang before they head home.

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sf wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 15:08:55 -0700, el dia del Cristo >
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 12:08:17 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:14:23 PM UTC-5, Abiquiu wrote:
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> I pay my housecleaner about $40 per hour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoa...talk about DISPOSABLE income....
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. It's mine to dispose of as I please.
>>>>
>>>> Well yeah, of course.
>>>>
>>>>> I might have been the only student at my university with a maid.
>>>>
>>>> I can believe that.
>>>>
>>>>> When I returned to school part-time after I married and we bought a house
>>>>> my husband said, "Let's get someone to clean the house, since you're
>>>>> working full-time as well as going to school."
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like Koch Brothers grade class-ism to me...
>>>>
>>>> Is the red Ferrari sporting a wreath?
>>>
>>> I call it being practical.

>>
>> Iff'n one can afford that as a luxury expenditure.
>>
>>> They clearly value living in a clean home
>>> environment.

>>
>> If not making it so hands on...
>>
>>> Your priorities might be different.

>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> But my budget could well be...
>>
>> The days of swept mud and linseed oiled floors are long since gone
>> 'round here...
>>
>> Merry X-Mas, sf!
>>
>> ..tossin' another stick of pecan in the old horno for the pork roast...
>>

>
> Merry Christmas to you too. We had our big xmas dinner last night.
> This morning was a low key xmas breakfast, followed by more present
> opening. Son-I-L took the kids outside for an hour or so and now
> we're just hanging out - everyone is watching basketball and you know
> what I'm doing. Think I'll make a pot of caldo verde in a bit for the
> gang before they head home.
>


AHHHH...that sounds like perfection defined!

A chill day this is and the crackle of wood and smell of the smoke is
like a spell that wafts in the back door and mixes with the mulled cider
and remaining bizcochitos.

I managed not to chomp on a clove this year and that makes it all good.



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On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 15:16:01 -0700, el dia del Cristo >
wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 10:10:31 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:42:48 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> sf wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:29:49 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It may be a while, Trader Joe's this time of year is a madhouse.
> >>>>
> >>> Interestingly, I was there today. Maybe it was a bit more crowded
> >>> than the usual mid-afternoon, but not by much and I was 3rd in line at
> >>> the checkout. One person at the cash register, one more and me.
> >>
> >> Wow, NoCal apathy?
> >>

> > Apathy? How did you come up with that?

>
> I figure it was due to spread up from La La land just like it did to
> Redwood City.
>

Life is different when you're living in the middle of tech. The best,
brightest and most driven from all over the country and all over the
world choose to live and work here. It's all about getting ahead and
it's hard to live here if you're not top dog. Home prices are driven
by how the neighborhood public school is rated and the pressure to be
better than the next guy has filtered down to the school level. Sure
everyone remembers one or two people who committed suicide in HS - but
there's a teen suicide epidemic in Palo Alto that has gotten national
attention.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...icides/413140/

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 1:58:35 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > These spots are pretty easy to find if the room is empty and you're
>> > looking for it. My office is pretty much gutted.

>>
>> Why? Did I miss you talking about it?
>>
>>
>> I suspect that the insurance money for the furnishings will not be
>> showing
>> up in the near future. I'm gonna have to use plan "B" - just as soon as I
>> can figure out what that is!
>>

>
> Last Friday the 13th, the office got flooded. The free standing walls,
> flooring, and furniture was dumped. All the shared drywall was removed up
> to 18 inches or so was dumped. I guess I never mentioned that. I'm not too
> worried about it - I can't say why.


That is awful. We have a lot of flooding in GB atm. Some places have been
flooded 3 times in the past month. It is heartbreaking. They just get
cleaned up from one lot and they have to start again

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35178381

What happened to your office?

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On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 15:44:18 -0700, el dia del Cristo >
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> AHHHH...that sounds like perfection defined!


It was. We always have a fire in the fireplace for Christmas, so it
was a cozy scene worthy of Norman Rockwell.
>
> A chill day this is and the crackle of wood and smell of the smoke is
> like a spell that wafts in the back door and mixes with the mulled cider
> and remaining bizcochitos.
>
> I managed not to chomp on a clove this year and that makes it all good.


I made mulled cider too. I bought a giant sized "tea ball" this year
and all my spices except the cinnamon stick went in that. I suppose I
could have broken it up, but I didn't think it would be hard to avoid.


DIL made rugulah and oh, my - they went well with the cider. Santa
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Cheri wrote:
>Janet B wrote:
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>Janet B wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I hope you called your homeowner's insurance. You can (at least I
>>>> could) claim the contents of your freezer/refrigerator.
>>>
>>>Homeowner's insurance has a rather low cap on how much they'll pay for
>>>spoiled food, like $50, plus just about every policy has a deductible
>>>that needs to be met before they'll pay a dime. Before insurance will
>>>pay for spoiled food you'd need a commercial policy like what food
>>>stores have, and those are very expensive. When Hurricane Gloria hit
>>>Long Island on September 27, 1985 we were without power for 11 days,
>>>no one's homeowner's insurance paid for spoiled food. We all made
>>>giant bbqs, even fed everyone's pets. I remember the date and the
>>>surrounding circumstances well because it was my daughter's 16th
>>>birthday, her party was cancelled.

>>
>> I was told to just add up what was in my refrigerator and freezer and
>> let them know. They included the items that I caught fishing and the
>> items that I froze from my garden. I went to the grocery store and
>> used prices on fish, herbs and vegetables there to come up with a
>> number for the items that I had prepared. I gave them the number
>> over the phone and they sent me a check for over $500. I never lie
>> here or discombobulate, so what I am telling is the truth. I suggest
>> you get better insurance.
>> Janet US

>
>When I got my last fridge I bought insurance for it for five years, which
>covers up to 500.00 worth of spoilage. It didn't cost much as I recall and
>the last time was a good lesson.
>
>Cheri


Yes, one can buy extra insurance riders for a homeowner's policy.

I've never had $500 worth of perishable food in my freezer, maybe $200
tops... much of what people freeze won't spoil from thawing, like ice
cubes aren't covered, not baked goods, not vegetables, not cured meats
(bacon, ham, etc), plus the home owner is responsible to mitigate
damage, ie. obtain dry ice. The most expensive items in my freezer is
my large collection of bulk spices, but they wouldn't be covered as
they don't spoil from thawing. Right now there's probably about $125
worth of real perishables in my freezer, if that much... in my fridge
the only thing that would spoil is part of a half gallon of milk,
maybe one quart, and maybe a half a quart of mayo.... condiments and
canned goods won't spoil, neither fresh produce, eggs, butter, breads,
jars of jams, not even a half bottle of Italian salad dressing... oh,
I have a piece of cured ham in the fridge I've been picking at, maybe
worth $4... I'm tiring of eating it, I'll either freze it to make bean
soup or hack it up and toss it in the yard for the wild critters... I
already have enough home made soups.
I don't care what people claim they were paid for spoiled food,
insurance companies are not naive, they don't cover much under basic
policies, nor do they reward people for being food horders... if one
is foolish enough to buy extra insurance because they are so foolish
as to horde food as though they were a supermarket they still won't
receive full coverage, plus if making a claim their premiums will go
up. There are many things people think are covered under a homeowners
policy but are not... for example if a huge tree falls and one of its
branches hits your house the damage to your house is covered, like
$300 for a bundle of roofing shingles, a 10' length of gutter, and
labor, but it won't pay the $1,200 to remove the tree or the $500 to
grind the stump and repair landscaping.
So again, insurance companies are neither naive or stupid, yoose ain't
gettin' over on them... even if they will cover a portion of your food
loss they are not going to take your word for what you claim to have
lost... they will never believe you had a freezer filled with shrimp
and lobster tails nor will they cover ones food hording obsession.
Unless you're a food market they are not going to cover your claim for
$500 worth of steaks and lamb chops... they'll cover $50 for ground
mystery meat, two frozen pizzas, and a few TV Dinners... there is
really no way to prove what one had in a home freezer, they don't care
about register receipts, anyone can pick all they want from market
trash.
I have two refrigerator freezers, 90% of what they contain won't spoil
if the power is out for a week, cans of beer and soda won't spoil,
loaves of frozen bread won't spoil, cans of coffee, tuna, and all
kinds of jars of condiments won't spoil. My basement unit contains no
meats, only items that can spoil are about 30 quarts of frozen
homemade soups, but how can I place a believeable value, I can't, it's
only valuable to me for my time and effort, so what I'd do if I knew
it's a major outage that may not return power for a week or more I'd
put them all in pots on my gas stove and do the old timey soup pot
thingy where they can be kept on a low simmer for months, I'd have
extra work but I'd save the soups I labored over, it's called
mitigating my damages.
I've owned many properties and have dealt with homeowners insurance
issues of all types, with many rental units too, no way do I believe
anyone was given $500 for loss of food due to a power outage, no way,
no how, not unless they PAID EXTRA for a rider to cover food spoilage,
and then the premiums would be more than the value of the lost food.
Once again, insurance companies are neither naive or stupid.
I can believe a $140 per year rider to cover an $8,000 diamond
engagement ring, but not some moron who'd pay extra premiums to cover
spoiled ground mystery meat... to date I've seen no food here worth an
insurance rider, 95% of the posters here dine like they eat at
Salvation Army soup kitchens, at least from what they've
demonstrated... they talk high end but talk is cheap... show me. I
don't eat expensively, never claimed to, but I know my feral cats eat
better than all the big talkers here who have shown zero. I probably
spend more on bird seed than all yoose I-cook-everything-from-scratch
fakers... yoose eat so high end but can't even afford a friggin' $89
digicam. During the twenty odd years I've posted to this group there
have been fewer than twenty posters who have shown their cooking, and
it's been those who've claimed the loudest that they cook everything
from scratch who have shown nothing.
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> During the twenty odd years I've posted to this group there
> have been fewer than twenty posters who have shown their cooking, and
> it's been those who've claimed the loudest that they cook everything
> from scratch who have shown nothing.



----------------yawn---------------------

Maybe they're all sick of posting their dishes and having YOU make snide
remarks about them.

I suppose 20 years of that would be time enough for a bunch of old dogs
to learn not to get tricked.

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> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 15:44:18 -0700, el dia del Cristo >
> wrote:
>
>> AHHHH...that sounds like perfection defined!

>
> It was. We always have a fire in the fireplace for Christmas, so it
> was a cozy scene worthy of Norman Rockwell.
>>
>> A chill day this is and the crackle of wood and smell of the smoke is
>> like a spell that wafts in the back door and mixes with the mulled cider
>> and remaining bizcochitos.
>>
>> I managed not to chomp on a clove this year and that makes it all good.

>
> I made mulled cider too. I bought a giant sized "tea ball" this year
> and all my spices except the cinnamon stick went in that. I suppose I
> could have broken it up, but I didn't think it would be hard to avoid.
>
>
> DIL made rugulah and oh, my - they went well with the cider. Santa
> got the last two.
>


Heh, sounds homey for sure.

Those canela sticks we get here are fun to suck on a bit too when the
cider's gone.
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el Cristo Dumb Schmuck wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> During the twenty odd years I've posted to this group there
>> have been fewer than twenty posters who have shown their cooking, and
>> it's been those who've claimed the loudest that they cook everything
>> from scratch who have shown nothing.

>
>Maybe they're all sick of posting their dishes and having YOU make snide
>remarks about them.
>
>I suppose 20 years of that would be time enough for a bunch of old dogs
>to learn not to get tricked.


I don't think I'd have that power, were they proud of their creations
they'd post them regardless... Dumb Schmuck! FAGGOT!
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On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 1:02:46 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 1:58:35 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > These spots are pretty easy to find if the room is empty and you're
> >> > looking for it. My office is pretty much gutted.
> >>
> >> Why? Did I miss you talking about it?
> >>
> >>
> >> I suspect that the insurance money for the furnishings will not be
> >> showing
> >> up in the near future. I'm gonna have to use plan "B" - just as soon as I
> >> can figure out what that is!
> >>

> >
> > Last Friday the 13th, the office got flooded. The free standing walls,
> > flooring, and furniture was dumped. All the shared drywall was removed up
> > to 18 inches or so was dumped. I guess I never mentioned that. I'm not too
> > worried about it - I can't say why.

>
> That is awful. We have a lot of flooding in GB atm. Some places have been
> flooded 3 times in the past month. It is heartbreaking. They just get
> cleaned up from one lot and they have to start again
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35178381


I get frequent flash flood warnings on my phone. Most times it's not raining that hard but mostly it's water coming down from the mountain streams that we don't really see much.

http://images.thezooom.com/uploads/2...ahu-Hawaii.jpg

When the winds are blowing right, the water doesn't fall, it rises. It's an upside down waterfall!

>
> What happened to your office?


The dentist's office sprung a leak in it's water filtration system. The waterline on my computer indicates that it was three inches deep in my office. The building manager had 2 days warning from me about this disaster but did nothing. I believe the manager is a son-in-law of the owners. He seems to be a rookie. That's the breaks.

>
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> el Cristo Dumb Schmuck wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> During the twenty odd years I've posted to this group there
>>> have been fewer than twenty posters who have shown their cooking, and
>>> it's been those who've claimed the loudest that they cook everything
>>> from scratch who have shown nothing.

>>
>> Maybe they're all sick of posting their dishes and having YOU make snide
>> remarks about them.
>>
>> I suppose 20 years of that would be time enough for a bunch of old dogs
>> to learn not to get tricked.

>
> I don't think I'd have that power,


Oh come now, revel in your crankinesss here!

> were they proud of their creations
> they'd post them regardless... Dumb Schmuck! FAGGOT!


Yeah, they got sick of you, and really...who wouldn't?



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On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0700, el dia del Cristo >
wrote:

> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > el Cristo Dumb Schmuck wrote:
> >> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>> During the twenty odd years I've posted to this group there
> >>> have been fewer than twenty posters who have shown their cooking, and
> >>> it's been those who've claimed the loudest that they cook everything
> >>> from scratch who have shown nothing.
> >>
> >> Maybe they're all sick of posting their dishes and having YOU make snide
> >> remarks about them.
> >>
> >> I suppose 20 years of that would be time enough for a bunch of old dogs
> >> to learn not to get tricked.

> >
> > I don't think I'd have that power,

>
> Oh come now, revel in your crankinesss here!
>
> > were they proud of their creations
> > they'd post them regardless... Dumb Schmuck! FAGGOT!

>
> Yeah, they got sick of you, and really...who wouldn't?


Seriously. And of his snide remark protégé too.

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sf wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0700, el dia del Cristo >
> wrote:
>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> el Cristo Dumb Schmuck wrote:
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> During the twenty odd years I've posted to this group there
>>>>> have been fewer than twenty posters who have shown their cooking, and
>>>>> it's been those who've claimed the loudest that they cook everything
>>>>> from scratch who have shown nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe they're all sick of posting their dishes and having YOU make snide
>>>> remarks about them.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose 20 years of that would be time enough for a bunch of old dogs
>>>> to learn not to get tricked.
>>>
>>> I don't think I'd have that power,

>>
>> Oh come now, revel in your crankinesss here!
>>
>>> were they proud of their creations
>>> they'd post them regardless... Dumb Schmuck! FAGGOT!

>>
>> Yeah, they got sick of you, and really...who wouldn't?

>
> Seriously. And of his snide remark protégé too.
>


I know.

It's amusing...to a point...

20 years in?

Battle fatigue.
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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

>> > Last Friday the 13th, the office got flooded. The free standing walls,
>> > flooring, and furniture was dumped. All the shared drywall was removed
>> > up
>> > to 18 inches or so was dumped. I guess I never mentioned that. I'm not
>> > too
>> > worried about it - I can't say why.

>>
>> That is awful. We have a lot of flooding in GB atm. Some places have
>> been
>> flooded 3 times in the past month. It is heartbreaking. They just get
>> cleaned up from one lot and they have to start again
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35178381

>
> I get frequent flash flood warnings on my phone. Most times it's not
> raining that hard but mostly it's water coming down from the mountain
> streams that we don't really see much.
>
> http://images.thezooom.com/uploads/2...ahu-Hawaii.jpg
>
> When the winds are blowing right, the water doesn't fall, it rises. It's
> an upside down waterfall!


That is pretty amazing!!!


>> What happened to your office?

>
> The dentist's office sprung a leak in it's water filtration system. The
> waterline on my computer indicates that it was three inches deep in my
> office. The building manager had 2 days warning from me about this
> disaster but did nothing. I believe the manager is a son-in-law of the
> owners. He seems to be a rookie. That's the breaks.
>


That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was clean
water?

The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One couple were
watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up through
the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with diesel(


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On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 11:20:24 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" <d> wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> > Last Friday the 13th, the office got flooded. The free standing walls,
> >> > flooring, and furniture was dumped. All the shared drywall was removed
> >> > up
> >> > to 18 inches or so was dumped. I guess I never mentioned that. I'm not
> >> > too
> >> > worried about it - I can't say why.
> >>
> >> That is awful. We have a lot of flooding in GB atm. Some places have
> >> been
> >> flooded 3 times in the past month. It is heartbreaking. They just get
> >> cleaned up from one lot and they have to start again
> >>
> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35178381

> >
> > I get frequent flash flood warnings on my phone. Most times it's not
> > raining that hard but mostly it's water coming down from the mountain
> > streams that we don't really see much.
> >
> > http://images.thezooom.com/uploads/2...ahu-Hawaii.jpg
> >
> > When the winds are blowing right, the water doesn't fall, it rises. It's
> > an upside down waterfall!

>
> That is pretty amazing!!!


It sure is goofy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXOkmcfefQc

>
>
> >> What happened to your office?

> >
> > The dentist's office sprung a leak in it's water filtration system. The
> > waterline on my computer indicates that it was three inches deep in my
> > office. The building manager had 2 days warning from me about this
> > disaster but did nothing. I believe the manager is a son-in-law of the
> > owners. He seems to be a rookie. That's the breaks.
> >

>
> That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was clean
> water?


It was clean water but the acoustic ceiling tiles just dissolves like toilet paper in water and makes a heck of a mess.

>
> The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One couple were
> watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up through
> the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with diesel(
>
>
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How odd! Storm system are bad, very bad.
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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

>> That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was
>> clean
>> water?

>
> It was clean water but the acoustic ceiling tiles just dissolves like
> toilet paper in water and makes a heck of a mess.


Oh dear The houses being flooded here are having to dig out mud. Imagine
having to do that 3 times in one month


>> The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One couple
>> were
>> watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up through
>> the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with
>> diesel(

>
> How odd! Storm system are bad, very bad.


I suspect money for flood defences have been cut back over the past few
years. They certainly are promising to put big money into it now!

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Sqwertz wrote:
> Wow.
>
> -sw


Die real soon.


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>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that the subhuman virus stalked poor Omelet right of the net!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
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readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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> The facebook group is much more pleasant.


Only because you cower there in mortal fear of being booted by the admins.

You're _done_ here virus, I mean really done.





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On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was
> >> clean
> >> water?

> >
> > It was clean water but the acoustic ceiling tiles just dissolves like
> > toilet paper in water and makes a heck of a mess.

>
> Oh dear The houses being flooded here are having to dig out mud. Imagine
> having to do that 3 times in one month
>
>
> >> The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One couple
> >> were
> >> watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up through
> >> the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with
> >> diesel(

> >
> > How odd! Storm system are bad, very bad.

>
> I suspect money for flood defences have been cut back over the past few
> years. They certainly are promising to put big money into it now!
>
> --
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The weather system is the world's biggest heat engine. Global warming is like turbocharging the engine. Well, that's my theory anyway. It's a good idea to direct resources to fortify our defenses against water and wind. Well that's my theory too.
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>> That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was
>>>> clean
>>>> water?
>>>
>>> It was clean water but the acoustic ceiling tiles just dissolves like
>>> toilet paper in water and makes a heck of a mess.

>>
>> Oh dear The houses being flooded here are having to dig out mud. Imagine
>> having to do that 3 times in one month
>>
>>
>>>> The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One couple
>>>> were
>>>> watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up through
>>>> the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with
>>>> diesel(
>>>
>>> How odd! Storm system are bad, very bad.

>>
>> I suspect money for flood defences have been cut back over the past few
>> years. They certainly are promising to put big money into it now!
>>
>> --
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

>
> The weather system is the world's biggest heat engine. Global warming is like turbocharging the engine. Well, that's my theory anyway. It's a good idea to direct resources to fortify our defenses against water and wind. Well that's my theory too.
>


People in Yurop better watch out for:

The Maunder minimum ushered in a period known as the Little Ice Age, the
article continues. Colder-than-average winters became more prevalent,
and the average temperature in Europe appeared to drop by between 1 and
2 degrees Celsius.

A possible little ice age, that's the real story here, not "the
calm before
the storm."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...04114.html?g=0



Low sunspot activity has historically been linked with colder periods in
human history such as the period known as the “Little Ice Age” during
the 1600s. Higher levels of sunspot activity have been linked to warmer
periods like the one from the 1970s to the late 1990s.

Solar activity is now falling faster than any other period in the last
10,000 years, and some researchers have suggested that the planet could
cool off in the coming decades.

“By looking back at certain isotopes in ice cores, [Professor Mike
Lockwood of Reading University] has been able to determine how active
the sun has been over thousands of years,” the BBC reports. “Following
analysis of the data, Professor Lockwood believes solar activity is now
falling more rapidly than at any time in the last 10,000 years.”

“When we have had periods where the sun has been quieter than usual we
tend to get these much harsher winters,” Sunderland University climate
scientist Dennis Wheeler told the Daily Express.

This is not necessarily a new discovery, as scientists have been
pointing to rapidly falling solar activity for some time now. Last year,
Russian scientists said that the world could soon plunge into another
Little Ice Age.

“After the maximum of solar cycle 24, from approximately 2014 we can
expect the start of deep cooling with a Little Ice Age in 2055,” wrote
Habibullo Abdussamatov of the Russian Academy of Science.

The U.K.’s Lockwood also told the BBC that falling sunspot activity
raises the risk of entering a new Little Ice Age “from less than 10
percent just a few years ago to 25-30 percent.”

“So the warming we saw, which lasted only from 1978 to 1998, is
something that is predictable and expectable,” said Don Easterbrook,
professor emeritus of geology at Western Washington University. “When
the ocean changed temperatures, global cooling is almost a slam dunk.
You can expect to find about 25 to 30 years yet ahead of us before it
starts to warm up again. It might even be more than that.”

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/13/mu...lobal-cooling/
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On 12/26/2015 9:41 AM, el dia del Cristo wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>> That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was
>>>>> clean
>>>>> water?
>>>>
>>>> It was clean water but the acoustic ceiling tiles just dissolves like
>>>> toilet paper in water and makes a heck of a mess.
>>>
>>> Oh dear The houses being flooded here are having to dig out mud.
>>> Imagine
>>> having to do that 3 times in one month
>>>
>>>
>>>>> The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One couple
>>>>> were
>>>>> watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up
>>>>> through
>>>>> the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with
>>>>> diesel(
>>>>
>>>> How odd! Storm system are bad, very bad.
>>>
>>> I suspect money for flood defences have been cut back over the past few
>>> years. They certainly are promising to put big money into it now!
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

>>
>> The weather system is the world's biggest heat engine. Global warming
>> is like turbocharging the engine. Well, that's my theory anyway. It's
>> a good idea to direct resources to fortify our defenses against water
>> and wind. Well that's my theory too.
>>

>
> People in Yurop better watch out for:
>
> The Maunder minimum ushered in a period known as the Little Ice Age, the
> article continues. Colder-than-average winters became more prevalent,
> and the average temperature in Europe appeared to drop by between 1 and
> 2 degrees Celsius.
>
> A possible little ice age, that's the real story here, not "the
> calm before
> the storm."
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...04114.html?g=0
>
>
>
>
> Low sunspot activity has historically been linked with colder periods in
> human history such as the period known as the “Little Ice Age” during
> the 1600s. Higher levels of sunspot activity have been linked to warmer
> periods like the one from the 1970s to the late 1990s.
>
> Solar activity is now falling faster than any other period in the last
> 10,000 years, and some researchers have suggested that the planet could
> cool off in the coming decades.
>
> “By looking back at certain isotopes in ice cores, [Professor Mike
> Lockwood of Reading University] has been able to determine how active
> the sun has been over thousands of years,” the BBC reports. “Following
> analysis of the data, Professor Lockwood believes solar activity is now
> falling more rapidly than at any time in the last 10,000 years.”
>
> “When we have had periods where the sun has been quieter than usual we
> tend to get these much harsher winters,” Sunderland University climate
> scientist Dennis Wheeler told the Daily Express.
>
> This is not necessarily a new discovery, as scientists have been
> pointing to rapidly falling solar activity for some time now. Last year,
> Russian scientists said that the world could soon plunge into another
> Little Ice Age.
>
> “After the maximum of solar cycle 24, from approximately 2014 we can
> expect the start of deep cooling with a Little Ice Age in 2055,” wrote
> Habibullo Abdussamatov of the Russian Academy of Science.
>
> The U.K.’s Lockwood also told the BBC that falling sunspot activity
> raises the risk of entering a new Little Ice Age “from less than 10
> percent just a few years ago to 25-30 percent.”
>
> “So the warming we saw, which lasted only from 1978 to 1998, is
> something that is predictable and expectable,” said Don Easterbrook,
> professor emeritus of geology at Western Washington University. “When
> the ocean changed temperatures, global cooling is almost a slam dunk.
> You can expect to find about 25 to 30 years yet ahead of us before it
> starts to warm up again. It might even be more than that.”
>
> http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/13/mu...lobal-cooling/
>


It's tough to separate man's effect on the climate and Earth's periodic
changes. The good news is that Las Vegas won't be a hot desert but
instead, it'll be a green and verdant land. That would be just spiffy
for me but I'm not sure if I can hold out for 10,000 years.
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dsi1 wrote:
> On 12/26/2015 9:41 AM, el dia del Cristo wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>>> That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was
>>>>>> clean
>>>>>> water?
>>>>>
>>>>> It was clean water but the acoustic ceiling tiles just dissolves like
>>>>> toilet paper in water and makes a heck of a mess.
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear The houses being flooded here are having to dig out mud.
>>>> Imagine
>>>> having to do that 3 times in one month
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One
>>>>>> couple
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with
>>>>>> diesel(
>>>>>
>>>>> How odd! Storm system are bad, very bad.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect money for flood defences have been cut back over the past few
>>>> years. They certainly are promising to put big money into it now!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
>>>
>>> The weather system is the world's biggest heat engine. Global warming
>>> is like turbocharging the engine. Well, that's my theory anyway. It's
>>> a good idea to direct resources to fortify our defenses against water
>>> and wind. Well that's my theory too.
>>>

>>
>> People in Yurop better watch out for:
>>
>> The Maunder minimum ushered in a period known as the Little Ice Age, the
>> article continues. Colder-than-average winters became more prevalent,
>> and the average temperature in Europe appeared to drop by between 1 and
>> 2 degrees Celsius.
>>
>> A possible little ice age, that's the real story here, not "the
>> calm before
>> the storm."
>>
>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...04114.html?g=0
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Low sunspot activity has historically been linked with colder periods in
>> human history such as the period known as the “Little Ice Age” during
>> the 1600s. Higher levels of sunspot activity have been linked to warmer
>> periods like the one from the 1970s to the late 1990s.
>>
>> Solar activity is now falling faster than any other period in the last
>> 10,000 years, and some researchers have suggested that the planet could
>> cool off in the coming decades.
>>
>> “By looking back at certain isotopes in ice cores, [Professor Mike
>> Lockwood of Reading University] has been able to determine how active
>> the sun has been over thousands of years,” the BBC reports. “Following
>> analysis of the data, Professor Lockwood believes solar activity is now
>> falling more rapidly than at any time in the last 10,000 years.”
>>
>> “When we have had periods where the sun has been quieter than usual we
>> tend to get these much harsher winters,” Sunderland University climate
>> scientist Dennis Wheeler told the Daily Express.
>>
>> This is not necessarily a new discovery, as scientists have been
>> pointing to rapidly falling solar activity for some time now. Last year,
>> Russian scientists said that the world could soon plunge into another
>> Little Ice Age.
>>
>> “After the maximum of solar cycle 24, from approximately 2014 we can
>> expect the start of deep cooling with a Little Ice Age in 2055,” wrote
>> Habibullo Abdussamatov of the Russian Academy of Science.
>>
>> The U.K.’s Lockwood also told the BBC that falling sunspot activity
>> raises the risk of entering a new Little Ice Age “from less than 10
>> percent just a few years ago to 25-30 percent.”
>>
>> “So the warming we saw, which lasted only from 1978 to 1998, is
>> something that is predictable and expectable,” said Don Easterbrook,
>> professor emeritus of geology at Western Washington University. “When
>> the ocean changed temperatures, global cooling is almost a slam dunk.
>> You can expect to find about 25 to 30 years yet ahead of us before it
>> starts to warm up again. It might even be more than that.”
>>
>> http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/13/mu...lobal-cooling/
>>
>>

>
> It's tough to separate man's effect on the climate and Earth's periodic
> changes.


Not where sunspot cycles are concerned, those suckers are just
completely immutable by man.

> The good news is that Las Vegas won't be a hot desert but
> instead, it'll be a green and verdant land.


It sure could be!

> That would be just spiffy
> for me but I'm not sure if I can hold out for 10,000 years.


Would 15 work?


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On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 1:14:23 PM UTC-10, el dia del Cristo wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On 12/26/2015 9:41 AM, el dia del Cristo wrote:
> >> dsi1 wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>>>> That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was
> >>>>>> clean
> >>>>>> water?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It was clean water but the acoustic ceiling tiles just dissolves like
> >>>>> toilet paper in water and makes a heck of a mess.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh dear The houses being flooded here are having to dig out mud.
> >>>> Imagine
> >>>> having to do that 3 times in one month
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One
> >>>>>> couple
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>> watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up
> >>>>>> through
> >>>>>> the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with
> >>>>>> diesel(
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How odd! Storm system are bad, very bad.
> >>>>
> >>>> I suspect money for flood defences have been cut back over the past few
> >>>> years. They certainly are promising to put big money into it now!
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
> >>>
> >>> The weather system is the world's biggest heat engine. Global warming
> >>> is like turbocharging the engine. Well, that's my theory anyway. It's
> >>> a good idea to direct resources to fortify our defenses against water
> >>> and wind. Well that's my theory too.
> >>>
> >>
> >> People in Yurop better watch out for:
> >>
> >> The Maunder minimum ushered in a period known as the Little Ice Age, the
> >> article continues. Colder-than-average winters became more prevalent,
> >> and the average temperature in Europe appeared to drop by between 1 and
> >> 2 degrees Celsius.
> >>
> >> A possible little ice age, that's the real story here, not "the
> >> calm before
> >> the storm."
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...04114.html?g=0
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Low sunspot activity has historically been linked with colder periods in
> >> human history such as the period known as the "Little Ice Age" during
> >> the 1600s. Higher levels of sunspot activity have been linked to warmer
> >> periods like the one from the 1970s to the late 1990s.
> >>
> >> Solar activity is now falling faster than any other period in the last
> >> 10,000 years, and some researchers have suggested that the planet could
> >> cool off in the coming decades.
> >>
> >> "By looking back at certain isotopes in ice cores, [Professor Mike
> >> Lockwood of Reading University] has been able to determine how active
> >> the sun has been over thousands of years," the BBC reports. "Following
> >> analysis of the data, Professor Lockwood believes solar activity is now
> >> falling more rapidly than at any time in the last 10,000 years."
> >>
> >> "When we have had periods where the sun has been quieter than usual we
> >> tend to get these much harsher winters," Sunderland University climate
> >> scientist Dennis Wheeler told the Daily Express.
> >>
> >> This is not necessarily a new discovery, as scientists have been
> >> pointing to rapidly falling solar activity for some time now. Last year,
> >> Russian scientists said that the world could soon plunge into another
> >> Little Ice Age.
> >>
> >> "After the maximum of solar cycle 24, from approximately 2014 we can
> >> expect the start of deep cooling with a Little Ice Age in 2055," wrote
> >> Habibullo Abdussamatov of the Russian Academy of Science.
> >>
> >> The U.K.'s Lockwood also told the BBC that falling sunspot activity
> >> raises the risk of entering a new Little Ice Age "from less than 10
> >> percent just a few years ago to 25-30 percent."
> >>
> >> "So the warming we saw, which lasted only from 1978 to 1998, is
> >> something that is predictable and expectable," said Don Easterbrook,
> >> professor emeritus of geology at Western Washington University. "When
> >> the ocean changed temperatures, global cooling is almost a slam dunk.
> >> You can expect to find about 25 to 30 years yet ahead of us before it
> >> starts to warm up again. It might even be more than that."
> >>
> >> http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/13/mu...lobal-cooling/
> >>
> >>

> >
> > It's tough to separate man's effect on the climate and Earth's periodic
> > changes.

>
> Not where sunspot cycles are concerned, those suckers are just
> completely immutable by man.
>
> > The good news is that Las Vegas won't be a hot desert but
> > instead, it'll be a green and verdant land.

>
> It sure could be!
>
> > That would be just spiffy
> > for me but I'm not sure if I can hold out for 10,000 years.

>
> Would 15 work?


To paraphrase Steven Wright; I'm planning on living 15,000 years - so far, so good.
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 1:14:23 PM UTC-10, el dia del Cristo wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 12/26/2015 9:41 AM, el dia del Cristo wrote:
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That building manager ought to pay for the damage! At least it was
>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>> water?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was clean water but the acoustic ceiling tiles just dissolves like
>>>>>>> toilet paper in water and makes a heck of a mess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh dear The houses being flooded here are having to dig out mud.
>>>>>> Imagine
>>>>>> having to do that 3 times in one month
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The floods here come with mud and it destroys everything One
>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> watching tv and their carpet started to bubble. It was coming up
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> the floor. They got out fast. That water was contaminated with
>>>>>>>> diesel(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How odd! Storm system are bad, very bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect money for flood defences have been cut back over the past few
>>>>>> years. They certainly are promising to put big money into it now!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
>>>>>
>>>>> The weather system is the world's biggest heat engine. Global warming
>>>>> is like turbocharging the engine. Well, that's my theory anyway. It's
>>>>> a good idea to direct resources to fortify our defenses against water
>>>>> and wind. Well that's my theory too.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> People in Yurop better watch out for:
>>>>
>>>> The Maunder minimum ushered in a period known as the Little Ice Age, the
>>>> article continues. Colder-than-average winters became more prevalent,
>>>> and the average temperature in Europe appeared to drop by between 1 and
>>>> 2 degrees Celsius.
>>>>
>>>> A possible little ice age, that's the real story here, not "the
>>>> calm before
>>>> the storm."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...04114.html?g=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Low sunspot activity has historically been linked with colder periods in
>>>> human history such as the period known as the "Little Ice Age" during
>>>> the 1600s. Higher levels of sunspot activity have been linked to warmer
>>>> periods like the one from the 1970s to the late 1990s.
>>>>
>>>> Solar activity is now falling faster than any other period in the last
>>>> 10,000 years, and some researchers have suggested that the planet could
>>>> cool off in the coming decades.
>>>>
>>>> "By looking back at certain isotopes in ice cores, [Professor Mike
>>>> Lockwood of Reading University] has been able to determine how active
>>>> the sun has been over thousands of years," the BBC reports. "Following
>>>> analysis of the data, Professor Lockwood believes solar activity is now
>>>> falling more rapidly than at any time in the last 10,000 years."
>>>>
>>>> "When we have had periods where the sun has been quieter than usual we
>>>> tend to get these much harsher winters," Sunderland University climate
>>>> scientist Dennis Wheeler told the Daily Express.
>>>>
>>>> This is not necessarily a new discovery, as scientists have been
>>>> pointing to rapidly falling solar activity for some time now. Last year,
>>>> Russian scientists said that the world could soon plunge into another
>>>> Little Ice Age.
>>>>
>>>> "After the maximum of solar cycle 24, from approximately 2014 we can
>>>> expect the start of deep cooling with a Little Ice Age in 2055," wrote
>>>> Habibullo Abdussamatov of the Russian Academy of Science.
>>>>
>>>> The U.K.'s Lockwood also told the BBC that falling sunspot activity
>>>> raises the risk of entering a new Little Ice Age "from less than 10
>>>> percent just a few years ago to 25-30 percent."
>>>>
>>>> "So the warming we saw, which lasted only from 1978 to 1998, is
>>>> something that is predictable and expectable," said Don Easterbrook,
>>>> professor emeritus of geology at Western Washington University. "When
>>>> the ocean changed temperatures, global cooling is almost a slam dunk.
>>>> You can expect to find about 25 to 30 years yet ahead of us before it
>>>> starts to warm up again. It might even be more than that."
>>>>
>>>> http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/13/mu...lobal-cooling/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's tough to separate man's effect on the climate and Earth's periodic
>>> changes.

>>
>> Not where sunspot cycles are concerned, those suckers are just
>> completely immutable by man.
>>
>>> The good news is that Las Vegas won't be a hot desert but
>>> instead, it'll be a green and verdant land.

>>
>> It sure could be!
>>
>>> That would be just spiffy
>>> for me but I'm not sure if I can hold out for 10,000 years.

>>
>> Would 15 work?

>
> To paraphrase Steven Wright; I'm planning on living 15,000 years - so far, so good.
>


Kewl, you'll catch the next Little Ice Age too!
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Sqwertz wrote:
> Wow.
>
> -sw

Die real soon.


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ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that the subhuman virus stalked poor Omelet right of the net!

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ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> The facebook group is much more pleasant.


Only because you cower there in mortal fear of being booted by the admins.

You're _done_ here virus, I mean really done.





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On 12/25/2015 11:47 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Wow.
>
> -sw


You STALK women, you sick little dwarfy man!

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that the subhuman virus stalked poor Omelet right of the net!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> The facebook group is much more pleasant.


Only because you cower there in mortal fear of being booted by the admins.

You're _done_ here virus, I mean really done.


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On 12/24/2015 2:00 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Are you always trying to belittle Texas because I always pick on you?
>
> -sw


You STALK women, you sick little dwarfy man!

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that the subhuman virus stalked poor Omelet right of the net!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> The facebook group is much more pleasant.


Only because you cower there in mortal fear of being booted by the admins.

You're _done_ here virus, I mean really done.


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