alan > wrote in
:

> So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
> year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
> sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
> dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>
>
> HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans to
> use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/ arthritis
> kicks in.
>
> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
> alternatives

For the same reasons I bought my mother a set of Revereware stainless steel
pans. They have an aluminum disk on the bottom, but are nowhere near as
heavy as All Clad. She used them for 5-6 years before she passed away, and
they're still in great condition. I now have them as a second set.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

"alan" > wrote in message
...
> So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
> year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
> sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
> dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>
>
> HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans to
> use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/ arthritis
> kicks in.
>
> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
> alternatives

I don't know if it applies in this particular case, but a lot of the
manufacturers are addressing the weight issue by putting 'helper handles' on
the pans. A skillet, for instance, typically has one long handle. The new
pans have a grip handle on the opposite side of the long handle. This helps
for lifting, but doesn't do much for those times when you would lift and
pour or lift and scrape. I also think that older pots and pans were more
friendly towards the cook when maneuvering was necessary. The new handles
in many cases are very stylish but are too short to be braced against the
forearm, may be too slippery, narrow or curved for a good grip.
Janet

Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>alan > wrote in
:
>
>> So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
>> year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
>> sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
>> dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>>
>>
>> HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans to
>> use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/ arthritis
>> kicks in.
>>
>> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
>> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
>> alternatives
>
>For the same reasons I bought my mother a set of Revereware stainless steel
>pans. They have an aluminum disk on the bottom, but are nowhere near as
>heavy as All Clad. She used them for 5-6 years before she passed away, and
>they're still in great condition. I now have them as a second set.


I agree with the Revereware. The first set I used for about 40 years.
I replaced some of the pots with the ones with the disk. I do not
want anything too heavy if I have to lift it very often.

>alan wong writes:
>
>So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
>year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
>sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
>dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>
>
>HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans to
>use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/ arthritis
>kicks in.
>
>Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations

The new and improved Farberware Classic cookware with their High Impact bottoms
are very well made and highly functional, are reasonably priced and will last a
couple of life times.... I especialy like how they made the handles
substantially larger.


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Sheldon
````````````

Wayne wrote:
> alan wrote

> >> So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
>> year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
>> sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
>> dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>>
>>
>> HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans to
>> use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/ arthritis
>> kicks in.
>>
>> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
>> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
>> alternatives
>
> For the same reasons I bought my mother a set of Revereware stainless
> steel
> pans. They have an aluminum disk on the bottom, but are nowhere near as
> heavy as All Clad. She used them for 5-6 years before she passed away,
> and
> they're still in great condition. I now have them as a second set.
>
> Wayne in Phoenix

I really like my Revereware. I have had it for close to 20 years and it
still looks like new. I bought open stock, so that I could buy the pieces I
wanted, and the prices were right. Weight is the reason why I only have
one Le Creuset dutch oven, since I find their pots very heavy to handle and
tip.

Dora

Wayne wrote:
> alan wrote

> >> So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
>> year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
>> sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
>> dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>>
>>
>> HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans to
>> use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/ arthritis
>> kicks in.
>>
>> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
>> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
>> alternatives
>
> For the same reasons I bought my mother a set of Revereware stainless
> steel
> pans. They have an aluminum disk on the bottom, but are nowhere near as
> heavy as All Clad. She used them for 5-6 years before she passed away,
> and
> they're still in great condition. I now have them as a second set.
>
> Wayne in Phoenix

I really like my Revereware. I have had it for close to 20 years and it
still looks like new. I bought open stock, so that I could buy the pieces I
wanted, and the prices were right. Weight is the reason why I only have
one Le Creuset dutch oven, since I find their pots very heavy to handle and
tip.

Dora

limey wrote:

> I really like my Revereware. I have had it for close to 20 years and it
> still looks like new. I bought open stock, so that I could buy the pieces I
> wanted, and the prices were right. Weight is the reason why I only have
> one Le Creuset dutch oven, since I find their pots very heavy to handle and
> tip.

I have some old Reverware too. I used to hate my
mother's Reverware because she never polished the
copper on the bottom.. ah. Youth. Mine now looks
just as used and dark as hers did and I don't give
a damn. I have other saucepans that I prefer for
other reasons but those old Revereware pots were
my first so I'm a bit sentimental about them.
My large cornflower blue Le Creuset dutch oven is
beautiful and sits on my stove top (just because
I'm short of space for one more large pot). It
cheers me just looking at it and I love using it.
Goomba

limey wrote:

> I really like my Revereware. I have had it for close to 20 years and it
> still looks like new. I bought open stock, so that I could buy the pieces I
> wanted, and the prices were right. Weight is the reason why I only have
> one Le Creuset dutch oven, since I find their pots very heavy to handle and
> tip.

I have some old Reverware too. I used to hate my
mother's Reverware because she never polished the
copper on the bottom.. ah. Youth. Mine now looks
just as used and dark as hers did and I don't give
a damn. I have other saucepans that I prefer for
other reasons but those old Revereware pots were
my first so I'm a bit sentimental about them.
My large cornflower blue Le Creuset dutch oven is
beautiful and sits on my stove top (just because
I'm short of space for one more large pot). It
cheers me just looking at it and I love using it.
Goomba

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> alan > wrote in
> :
>
>> So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
>> year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
>> sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
>> dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>>
>>
>> HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans
>> to use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/
>> arthritis kicks in.
>>
>> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
>> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
>> alternatives
>
> For the same reasons I bought my mother a set of Revereware stainless
> steel pans. They have an aluminum disk on the bottom, but are
> nowhere near as heavy as All Clad. She used them for 5-6 years
> before she passed away, and they're still in great condition. I now
> have them as a second set.

My mom has been married 54 years; she is still using the Revereware
stainless she bought when she got married. I bought a set of Revereware
back in 1978 and have since added to the set. I love it. I have arthritis
and while I love my cast iron pots and pans, it is also damned near
impossible for me to lift the biggest of them without using two hands.
Revereware is great. The only problem is it doesn't go into the oven. For
that I still use my cast iron.

Jill

"Goomba38" wrote in message
> limey wrote:
>
>> I really like my Revereware. I have had it for close to 20 years and it
>> still looks like new. I bought open stock, so that I could buy the
>> pieces I wanted, and the prices were right. Weight is the reason why I
>> only have one Le Creuset dutch oven, since I find their pots very heavy
>> to handle and tip.
>
> I have some old Reverware too. I used to hate my mother's Reverware
> because she never polished the copper on the bottom.. ah. Youth. Mine now
> looks just as used and dark as hers did and I don't give a damn. I have
> other saucepans that I prefer for other reasons but those old Revereware
> pots were my first so I'm a bit sentimental about them.
> My large cornflower blue Le Creuset dutch oven is beautiful and sits on my
> stove top (just because I'm short of space for one more large pot). It
> cheers me just looking at it and I love using it.
> Goomba

I bought the Revereware with the aluminum disc on the bottom. Relief - no
copper to worry about, plus the pans are completely flat and work well on my
smoothtop.

I have the blue Cuisinart Dutch oven too (at least, mine's called a "doufeu
or something") and love it, since it keeps a steady low heat for braising.
The weight of it, however, is hard for me to handle when removing the
contents.
"Life ain't fair", is it.

Dora

"Goomba38" wrote in message
> limey wrote:
>
>> I really like my Revereware. I have had it for close to 20 years and it
>> still looks like new. I bought open stock, so that I could buy the
>> pieces I wanted, and the prices were right. Weight is the reason why I
>> only have one Le Creuset dutch oven, since I find their pots very heavy
>> to handle and tip.
>
> I have some old Reverware too. I used to hate my mother's Reverware
> because she never polished the copper on the bottom.. ah. Youth. Mine now
> looks just as used and dark as hers did and I don't give a damn. I have
> other saucepans that I prefer for other reasons but those old Revereware
> pots were my first so I'm a bit sentimental about them.
> My large cornflower blue Le Creuset dutch oven is beautiful and sits on my
> stove top (just because I'm short of space for one more large pot). It
> cheers me just looking at it and I love using it.
> Goomba

I bought the Revereware with the aluminum disc on the bottom. Relief - no
copper to worry about, plus the pans are completely flat and work well on my
smoothtop.

I have the blue Cuisinart Dutch oven too (at least, mine's called a "doufeu
or something") and love it, since it keeps a steady low heat for braising.
The weight of it, however, is hard for me to handle when removing the
contents.
"Life ain't fair", is it.

Dora

In article >, alan
> wrote:

> So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
> year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
> sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
> dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>
>
> HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans to
> use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/ arthritis
> kicks in.
>
> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
> alternatives

I think lightweight high quality stainless steel is oxymoronic, Alan.
:-( Unless they have thin sides and triple clad bottoms, I'm
thinking stuff will burn in a trice.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 10-22-04; Popovers!.
"Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power."
-Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn.

In article >, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

> I don't know if it applies in this particular case, but a lot of the
> manufacturers are addressing the weight issue by putting 'helper
> handles' on the pans. A skillet, for instance, typically has one
> long handle. The new pans have a grip handle on the opposite side of
> the long handle.

I love the pans with the helper handles -- my pressure cooker has one,
my DeMeyere Big Mongo Kettle, the All-Clad 3-quart sauté pan. Good plan
on their part. And the DeMeyere also has a bail handle -- the pan is a
10-quart, I think.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 10-22-04; Popovers!.
"Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power."
-Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn.

In article >, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

> I don't know if it applies in this particular case, but a lot of the
> manufacturers are addressing the weight issue by putting 'helper
> handles' on the pans. A skillet, for instance, typically has one
> long handle. The new pans have a grip handle on the opposite side of
> the long handle.

I love the pans with the helper handles -- my pressure cooker has one,
my DeMeyere Big Mongo Kettle, the All-Clad 3-quart sauté pan. Good plan
on their part. And the DeMeyere also has a bail handle -- the pan is a
10-quart, I think.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 10-22-04; Popovers!.
"Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power."
-Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I don't know if it applies in this particular case, but a lot of the
>>manufacturers are addressing the weight issue by putting 'helper
>>handles' on the pans. A skillet, for instance, typically has one
>>long handle. The new pans have a grip handle on the opposite side of
>>the long handle.
>
>
> I love the pans with the helper handles -- my pressure cooker has one,
> my DeMeyere Big Mongo Kettle, the All-Clad 3-quart sauté pan. Good plan
> on their part. And the DeMeyere also has a bail handle -- the pan is a
> 10-quart, I think.

The pans with the helper handles are too large for my tiny kitchen
cabinets. I ordered a set of Calphalon (sp?) and had to return them
to Bloomingdale's.

I need a lightweight set with nonstick insides and short handles. Any
help would be appreciated. The people who need lightweight pots and
pans because of arthritis, cannot scrub the insides of the pots and
pans, either.

Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.

Margaret Suran writes:
>
>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>"Janet Bostwick" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I don't know if it applies in this particular case, but a lot of the
>>>manufacturers are addressing the weight issue by putting 'helper
>>>handles' on the pans. A skillet, for instance, typically has one
>>>long handle. The new pans have a grip handle on the opposite side of
>>>the long handle.
>>
>>
>> I love the pans with the helper handles -- my pressure cooker has one,
>> my DeMeyere Big Mongo Kettle, the All-Clad 3-quart sauté pan. Good plan
>> on their part. And the DeMeyere also has a bail handle -- the pan is a
>> 10-quart, I think.
>
>The pans with the helper handles are too large for my tiny kitchen
>cabinets. I ordered a set of Calphalon (sp?) and had to return them
>to Bloomingdale's.
>
>I need a lightweight set with nonstick insides and short handles. Any
>help would be appreciated. The people who need lightweight pots and
>pans because of arthritis, cannot scrub the insides of the pots and
>pans, either.
>
>Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.

Why not simply enlist the services of the nubile lad who unstopples and decants
your merlot. hehe

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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

Margaret Suran writes:
>
>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>"Janet Bostwick" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I don't know if it applies in this particular case, but a lot of the
>>>manufacturers are addressing the weight issue by putting 'helper
>>>handles' on the pans. A skillet, for instance, typically has one
>>>long handle. The new pans have a grip handle on the opposite side of
>>>the long handle.
>>
>>
>> I love the pans with the helper handles -- my pressure cooker has one,
>> my DeMeyere Big Mongo Kettle, the All-Clad 3-quart sauté pan. Good plan
>> on their part. And the DeMeyere also has a bail handle -- the pan is a
>> 10-quart, I think.
>
>The pans with the helper handles are too large for my tiny kitchen
>cabinets. I ordered a set of Calphalon (sp?) and had to return them
>to Bloomingdale's.
>
>I need a lightweight set with nonstick insides and short handles. Any
>help would be appreciated. The people who need lightweight pots and
>pans because of arthritis, cannot scrub the insides of the pots and
>pans, either.
>
>Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.

Why not simply enlist the services of the nubile lad who unstopples and decants
your merlot. hehe

---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't know if it applies in this particular case, but a lot of the
>> manufacturers are addressing the weight issue by putting 'helper
>> handles' on the pans. A skillet, for instance, typically has one
>> long handle. The new pans have a grip handle on the opposite side of
>> the long handle.
>
> I love the pans with the helper handles -- my pressure cooker has one,
> my DeMeyere Big Mongo Kettle, the All-Clad 3-quart sauté pan. Good plan
> on their part. And the DeMeyere also has a bail handle -- the pan is a
> 10-quart, I think.
> --
> -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 10-22-04; Popovers!.
> "Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power."
> -Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn.
>

Nice stuff!

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't know if it applies in this particular case, but a lot of the
>> manufacturers are addressing the weight issue by putting 'helper
>> handles' on the pans. A skillet, for instance, typically has one
>> long handle. The new pans have a grip handle on the opposite side of
>> the long handle.
>
> I love the pans with the helper handles -- my pressure cooker has one,
> my DeMeyere Big Mongo Kettle, the All-Clad 3-quart sauté pan. Good plan
> on their part. And the DeMeyere also has a bail handle -- the pan is a
> 10-quart, I think.
> --
> -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 10-22-04; Popovers!.
> "Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power."
> -Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn.
>

Nice stuff!

"Margaret Suran" > wrote in message
...
snip

> The pans with the helper handles are too large for my tiny kitchen
> cabinets. I ordered a set of Calphalon (sp?) and had to return them to
> Bloomingdale's.
>
> I need a lightweight set with nonstick insides and short handles. Any
> help would be appreciated. The people who need lightweight pots and pans
> because of arthritis, cannot scrub the insides of the pots and pans,
> either.
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.

You can do some arm-chair window shopping. . .take a look at the stuff that
QVC and HSN have online. Maybe there's something there that would suit.
Janet

"Margaret Suran" > wrote in message
...
snip

> The pans with the helper handles are too large for my tiny kitchen
> cabinets. I ordered a set of Calphalon (sp?) and had to return them to
> Bloomingdale's.
>
> I need a lightweight set with nonstick insides and short handles. Any
> help would be appreciated. The people who need lightweight pots and pans
> because of arthritis, cannot scrub the insides of the pots and pans,
> either.
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.

You can do some arm-chair window shopping. . .take a look at the stuff that
QVC and HSN have online. Maybe there's something there that would suit.
Janet

In article >, alan
> wrote:
> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
> alternatives

I'm going to backpedal a bit on my first response, Alan. My bad.

I have two Revereware saucepans that I am very happy with. They're
18/10 stainless and have a 1/8" thick heating disk (?) on their bottoms
- flat and good heat conductors. Four quart capacity and one quart
capacity. Bought at an outlet mall, one of the kitchen places typical
of them. I don't have a skillet, so I don't know how they are. My
experience with thin stainless skillets is that they'll warp and develop
hot spots.

That four quart pan is a gem. It's a handled saucepan (rather than
kettle) but large enough that I can cook most anything I want in it.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 10-22-04; Popovers!.
"Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power."
-Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn.

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "Margaret Suran" > wrote in message
> ...
> snip
>
>
>>The pans with the helper handles are too large for my tiny kitchen
>>cabinets. I ordered a set of Calphalon (sp?) and had to return them to
>>Bloomingdale's.
>>
>>I need a lightweight set with nonstick insides and short handles. Any
>>help would be appreciated. The people who need lightweight pots and pans
>>because of arthritis, cannot scrub the insides of the pots and pans,
>>either.
>>
>>Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> You can do some arm-chair window shopping. . .take a look at the stuff that
> QVC and HSN have online. Maybe there's something there that would suit.
> Janet
>
>
Thank you, but this does not work for me. I have to actually lift
each pot and pan, in order to tell whether I can use it. Even being
told what the weight is, does not always help. I will go to Macy's,
the next time there is a big household sale and look at what they have
to offer. They have the biggest selection.

Thank you, Margaret

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "Margaret Suran" > wrote in message
> ...
> snip
>
>
>>The pans with the helper handles are too large for my tiny kitchen
>>cabinets. I ordered a set of Calphalon (sp?) and had to return them to
>>Bloomingdale's.
>>
>>I need a lightweight set with nonstick insides and short handles. Any
>>help would be appreciated. The people who need lightweight pots and pans
>>because of arthritis, cannot scrub the insides of the pots and pans,
>>either.
>>
>>Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> You can do some arm-chair window shopping. . .take a look at the stuff that
> QVC and HSN have online. Maybe there's something there that would suit.
> Janet
>
>
Thank you, but this does not work for me. I have to actually lift
each pot and pan, in order to tell whether I can use it. Even being
told what the weight is, does not always help. I will go to Macy's,
the next time there is a big household sale and look at what they have
to offer. They have the biggest selection.

Thank you, Margaret

"alan" > wrote in message
...
> So I picked up a bunch of All Clad pots & pans for my mom as her 30
> year old Farberware set handles were pretty much toast....screws just
> sticking out (handles broke off years ago), etc which I felt was
> dangerous when lifting pots filled with soup, etc.
>
>
> HOWEVER, it turns out, while she loves the new All Clad pots & pans to
> use while cooking, they are too heavy for her as old age/ arthritis
> kicks in.
>
> Time to hit the stores again but I'd love to get some recommendations
> if you have any of good quality, preferably lighterweight pan
> alternatives
>
> It will mainly be picking up pieces rather than a set as I think
> pieces complement what she needs more appropiately. Preferebly SS
> inside & out.
Farberware or Reverewere- looks nice, not heavy, and is durable.Sis

You would not believe the abuse my Revereware has withstood over the course of
50+ years and two generations of cooks (well, Sheldon might *chuckles*).

One of my favorite Revereware pots is a 5 qt pot w/ a long handle (have not
seen that particular size/style Revere pot before or since) was salvaged from
a neighbor who burned the bottom of it beyond recognition. She was thowing it
away and I decided to try to save it. It was crusted with the hardest blackest
stuff I'd ever seen in my life. A few days soaking and scrubbing later and
the bottom was clean! That was over 20 years ago and I still use that pot
nearly everyday.

I've got a few pieces of the new fancy heavy SS designer cookware and find
myself using my old Revereware and cast iron skillets/dutch ovens in
preference. I do like the heavy SS non-stick Emerilware fry pan I received as a
gift but it won't last 10 years- the non-stick lining is already scratched up
from hubby.

I will say that the Revereware they sell today is not as sturdy as my mother's
Revereware. The handles in particular seem much less durable.

YMMV as they say

*cheerios*

Barb