Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.

<sigh>

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800, The New Other Guy
> wrote:

>
>Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>
><sigh>
>
that was in response to the WTO threats.
My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
the US. I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
statement impossible.
Janet US

The New Other Guy > wrote:
>
>Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>
><sigh>

Repealing COOL still allows US beef and pork to be labeled as such,
just assume that beef and pork with no COOLabeling to be from other
[mystery] countries.... repeal of COOL is a gift to US beef and pork
producers and US consumers.

Sqwertz wrote:
> It's not as evil as it sounds.


You are even more evil than anyone imagines, woman-stalker!

You STALK women, you sick little dwarfy man!

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that the subhuman virus stalked poor Omelet right of the net!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> The facebook group is much more pleasant.

Only because you cower there in mortal fear of being booted by the admins.

You're _done_ here virus, I mean really done.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> The New Other Guy > wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>
>> <sigh>
>
> Repealing COOL still allows US beef and pork to be labeled as such,
> just assume that beef and pork with no COOLabeling to be from other
> [mystery] countries.... repeal of COOL is a gift to US beef and pork
> producers and US consumers.
>

You must be INSANE!

http://www.rfdtv.com/story/30800601/cool-repeal

Woodall says voluntary programs already in place provide a better
solution to answer consumer questions about where their food comes from:
“We’ve always felt that voluntary industry led programs have been the
way to go, and we have programs in place right now that have been very
successful. That's where we want to spend our time...


Mubwhahahahaha!!!!!

You ****ing bet they want to spend less there!

On 12/29/2015 12:27 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Critics of the repeal said
Let's review what YOU like to do to women, Mr. Steve Wertz of Austin, Texas:

You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 2015-12-29, Janet B > wrote:

> that was in response to the WTO threats.
> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
> the US.

.....and all fed GMO foods while being raised in CAFOs.

> I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
> background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
> statement impossible.

Not to worry. Shyster pols and lobbyists will make sure laws are
passed to keep Monsanto dominate in the game.

nb

On 12/29/2015 9:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> retail customers
> <cough>.
>
> -sw
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 29/12/2015 9:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:27:04 -0700, Janet B wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800, The New Other Guy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>>
>>> <sigh>
>>>
>> that was in response to the WTO threats.
>> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
>> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
>> the US. I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
>> background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
>> statement impossible.
>
> The meat processors will no longer be required to keep records on the
> provenance of the animals which they considered a huge burden. Which
> means they'll now be able to pass those savings onto retail customers
> <cough>.
>
> -sw
>
It was that burden that hindered the trade in Canadian cattle and beef
and was clearly against all the treaties that the US had signed but
chose to ignore.

graham wrote:
> On 29/12/2015 9:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:27:04 -0700, Janet B wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>>>
>>>> <sigh>
>>>>
>>> that was in response to the WTO threats.
>>> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
>>> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
>>> the US. I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
>>> background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
>>> statement impossible.
>>
>> The meat processors will no longer be required to keep records on the
>> provenance of the animals which they considered a huge burden. Which
>> means they'll now be able to pass those savings onto retail customers
>> <cough>.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> It was that burden that hindered the trade in Canadian cattle and beef

Nah, that was your ****ing mad cow disease outbreak, spongehead!

On 29/12/2015 10:17 AM, la llorona wrote:
> graham wrote:
>> On 29/12/2015 9:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:27:04 -0700, Janet B wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>>>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>>>>
>>>>> <sigh>
>>>>>
>>>> that was in response to the WTO threats.
>>>> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
>>>> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
>>>> the US. I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
>>>> background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
>>>> statement impossible.
>>>
>>> The meat processors will no longer be required to keep records on the
>>> provenance of the animals which they considered a huge burden. Which
>>> means they'll now be able to pass those savings onto retail customers
>>> <cough>.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> It was that burden that hindered the trade in Canadian cattle and beef
>
> Nah, that was your ****ing mad cow disease outbreak, spongehead!
>
Again, your ignorance knows no bounds!

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:27:04 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800, The New Other Guy
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
> >repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
> >
> ><sigh>
> >
> that was in response to the WTO threats.
> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
> the US. I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
> background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
> statement impossible.
> Janet US

I'm hoping they beef up USDA inspections now.

--

sf

On 29 Dec 2015 16:47:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2015-12-29, Janet B > wrote:
>
> > that was in response to the WTO threats.
> > My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
> > lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
> > the US.
>
> ....and all fed GMO foods while being raised in CAFOs.

My understanding was that meat from Mexico was more likely to be free
of that stuff, because they were more likely to be grass fed up to
butchering. Now, who knows?
>
> > I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
> > background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
> > statement impossible.
>
> Not to worry. Shyster pols and lobbyists will make sure laws are
> passed to keep Monsanto dominate in the game.
>
I'm not as concerned about that in respect to meat as I am about the
continual gutting of watchdog agencies.


--

sf

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:11:10 -0700, la llorona > wrote:

> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > The New Other Guy > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
> >> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
> >>
> >> <sigh>
> >
> > Repealing COOL still allows US beef and pork to be labeled as such,
> > just assume that beef and pork with no COOLabeling to be from other
> > [mystery] countries.... repeal of COOL is a gift to US beef and pork
> > producers and US consumers.
> >
>
> You must be INSANE!
>
> http://www.rfdtv.com/story/30800601/cool-repeal
>
> Woodall says voluntary programs already in place provide a better
> solution to answer consumer questions about where their food comes from:
> “We’ve always felt that voluntary industry led programs have been the
> way to go, and we have programs in place right now that have been very
> successful. That's where we want to spend our time...
>
>
I don't think you two have a disagreement. Same thing, different
words.... aka: marketing.

--

sf

graham wrote:
> On 29/12/2015 10:17 AM, la llorona wrote:
>> graham wrote:
>>> On 29/12/2015 9:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:27:04 -0700, Janet B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <sigh>
>>>>>>
>>>>> that was in response to the WTO threats.
>>>>> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
>>>>> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
>>>>> the US. I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
>>>>> background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
>>>>> statement impossible.
>>>>
>>>> The meat processors will no longer be required to keep records on the
>>>> provenance of the animals which they considered a huge burden. Which
>>>> means they'll now be able to pass those savings onto retail customers
>>>> <cough>.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> It was that burden that hindered the trade in Canadian cattle and beef
>>
>> Nah, that was your ****ing mad cow disease outbreak, spongehead!
>>
> Again, your ignorance knows no bounds!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...0LH15P20150213
Fri Feb 13, 2015
Canada confirms new case of mad cow disease, cattle prices rise

Ooopsie eh, tantrum man...



Oh and that's not the first time, now is it?

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/re.../prb0301-e.htm

MAD COW DISEASE
AND CANADA'S CATTLE INDUSTRY

Prepared by:
Frédéric Forge, Science and Technology Division
Jean-Denis Fréchette, Principal, Economics Division
Revised 12 July 2005

BSE IN CANADA BEFORE 2003
A. The 1993 Case
B. BSE Monitoring
C. Measures to Prevent the Emergence of the Disease in Canada….

MAY 2003: A NEW CASE OF MAD COW DISEASE
A. Results of the Investigation
B. Suggested Additional Measures


Heck yeah, this be FUN!!!!

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:27:04 -0700, Janet B >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800, The New Other Guy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>>
>>> <sigh>
>>>
>> that was in response to the WTO threats.
>> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
>> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
>> the US. I wonder if they will be able to continue to do so or if the
>> background of the animals will become so muddied as to make that
>> statement impossible.
>> Janet US
>
> I'm hoping they beef up USDA inspections now.
>
In case of:


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...0LH15P20150213
Fri Feb 13, 2015
Canada confirms new case of mad cow disease, cattle prices rise

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:11:10 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> The New Other Guy > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>>>
>>>> <sigh>
>>>
>>> Repealing COOL still allows US beef and pork to be labeled as such,
>>> just assume that beef and pork with no COOLabeling to be from other
>>> [mystery] countries.... repeal of COOL is a gift to US beef and pork
>>> producers and US consumers.
>>>
>>
>> You must be INSANE!
>>
>> http://www.rfdtv.com/story/30800601/cool-repeal
>>
>> Woodall says voluntary programs already in place provide a better
>> solution to answer consumer questions about where their food comes from:
>> “We’ve always felt that voluntary industry led programs have been the
>> way to go, and we have programs in place right now that have been very
>> successful. That's where we want to spend our time...
>>
>>
> I don't think you two have a disagreement. Same thing, different
> words.... aka: marketing.
>
Or basic food safety:


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...0LH15P20150213
Fri Feb 13, 2015
Canada confirms new case of mad cow disease, cattle prices rise


Cal me cynical but...voluntary hasn't saved Chipotle from Norovirus and
a few other diseases yet...

On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 11:03:57 PM UTC-7, The New Other Guy wrote:
> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>
> <sigh>

And that is a good thing.

Roy wrote:
> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 11:03:57 PM UTC-7, The New Other Guy wrote:
>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>
>> <sigh>
>
> And that is a good thing.
>
Due to?


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...0LH15P20150213
Fri Feb 13, 2015
Canada confirms new case of mad cow disease, cattle prices rise

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:40:30 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>
>
> Cal me cynical but...voluntary hasn't saved Chipotle from Norovirus and
> a few other diseases yet...

Don't you think it's rather odd that out of all the reported cases, no
employee (they get one free meal per day from Chipotle) tested
positive for the virus? I smell a rat.

--

sf

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:43:17 AM UTC-7, la llorona wrote:
> Roy wrote:
> > On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 11:03:57 PM UTC-7, The New Other Guy wrote:
> >> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
> >> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
> >>
> >> <sigh>
> >
> > And that is a good thing.
> >
> Due to?
>
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...0LH15P20150213
> Fri Feb 13, 2015
> Canada confirms new case of mad cow disease, cattle prices rise

COOL discriminated against our beef and pork which are some of the best in the world.
You wouldn't understand as you are demented and retarded.
====

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:40:30 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Cal me cynical but...voluntary hasn't saved Chipotle from Norovirus and
>> a few other diseases yet...
>
> Don't you think it's rather odd that out of all the reported cases, no
> employee (they get one free meal per day from Chipotle) tested
> positive for the virus? I smell a rat.
>

Sadly there is starting to be one inescapable dualistic commonality.

Labor and training.

With at least 2 different diseases and multiple fresh suppliers the only
thing one can look at is the staff and how they're trained.

What else could it be?

Roy wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:43:17 AM UTC-7, la llorona wrote:
>> Roy wrote:
>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 11:03:57 PM UTC-7, The New Other Guy wrote:
>>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>>>
>>>> <sigh>
>>>
>>> And that is a good thing.
>>>
>> Due to?
>>
>>
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...0LH15P20150213
>> Fri Feb 13, 2015
>> Canada confirms new case of mad cow disease, cattle prices rise
>
> COOL discriminated against our beef and pork which are some of the best in the world.

Hey there brudda, when I want holes drilled in my head it's either
Canuck beef or that Brit BSE stuff!


> You wouldn't understand as you are demented and retarded.
> ====

And your Parliament?


http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/re.../prb0301-e.htm

MAD COW DISEASE
AND CANADA'S CATTLE INDUSTRY

Prepared by:
Frédéric Forge, Science and Technology Division
Jean-Denis Fréchette, Principal, Economics Division
Revised 12 July 2005

BSE IN CANADA BEFORE 2003
A. The 1993 Case
B. BSE Monitoring
C. Measures to Prevent the Emergence of the Disease in Canada….

MAY 2003: A NEW CASE OF MAD COW DISEASE
A. Results of the Investigation
B. Suggested Additional Measures


Heck yeah, this be FUN!!!!

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:41:58 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 11:03:57 PM UTC-7, The New Other Guy wrote:
>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>
>> <sigh>
>
>And that is a good thing.

Isn't less information for the buyer always a bad thing?

--
Bruce

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:24:55 -0700, la llorona > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:40:30 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Cal me cynical but...voluntary hasn't saved Chipotle from Norovirus and
> >> a few other diseases yet...
> >
> > Don't you think it's rather odd that out of all the reported cases, no
> > employee (they get one free meal per day from Chipotle) tested
> > positive for the virus? I smell a rat.
> >
>
> Sadly there is starting to be one inescapable dualistic commonality.
>
> Labor and training.
>
> With at least 2 different diseases and multiple fresh suppliers the only
> thing one can look at is the staff and how they're trained.
>
> What else could it be?

Other than someone planting the virus on purpose? The supplier.
Chipotle uses suppliers that are local to the store. Unfortunately,
it's difficult and costly to keep a close eye on so many - so they
might have to change a basic part of their business plan (buy local)
and go with central suppliers.

--

sf

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:24:55 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:40:30 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cal me cynical but...voluntary hasn't saved Chipotle from Norovirus and
>>>> a few other diseases yet...
>>>
>>> Don't you think it's rather odd that out of all the reported cases, no
>>> employee (they get one free meal per day from Chipotle) tested
>>> positive for the virus? I smell a rat.
>>>
>>
>> Sadly there is starting to be one inescapable dualistic commonality.
>>
>> Labor and training.
>>
>> With at least 2 different diseases and multiple fresh suppliers the only
>> thing one can look at is the staff and how they're trained.
>>
>> What else could it be?
>
> Other than someone planting the virus on purpose?

Yep.

> The supplier.

All across the nation?

> Chipotle uses suppliers that are local to the store.

True.

> Unfortunately,
> it's difficult and costly to keep a close eye on so many - so they
> might have to change a basic part of their business plan (buy local)
> and go with central suppliers.


Um, they do buy locally:

https://chipotle.com/transparency

http://ngfn.org/resources/ngfn-clust...o-and-chipotle

Q: What defines a mid-sized family farm? Acreage? Production?
Since some crops are more land and labor intensive than others, a
“mid-sized” farm is really on a case-by-case basis for Chipotle. We
prefer working with farms that are family owned and operated day-to-day
by family members. We like the idea of helping to sustain family farms,
and we appreciate their stewardship of the land and the environment.

Q: I'm sure there is a lot more time involved in setting up the
relationships and support for farmers. How have you been able to
justify this additional expense?
We already spend more for our food across the board – when compared to
other restaurants in our segment. For Chipotle, the quality, freshness
and sustainability of our food is a priority and well worth the
investment to develop relationships with local growers. And once we
have growers set up to meet our food safety and quality requirements, we
try to work with these same growers year after year. T

Q: Do you work with further processing facilities? For example, grated
cabbage and carrots that may have been seconds?
Chipotle’s primary local produce items are all _washed and prepped in
our restaurants._


{Ding! Ding! Ding!!!}


Q: Can you elaborate on 'training and investing in a grower to become
competitive'? Does this mean contract? Expectation that prices and/or
growing practices will change?

Chipotle works with local produce growers to make sure that they meet
our food safety and quality requirements (which include a 3rd party GAP
audit). For growers that do not meet the basic requirements, we
encourage them to work with various resources that are available for
food safety and GAP audit preparation. Once a grower is approved to
supply Chipotle, we work with each grower individually on price and
anticipated volume.

Q: What's the name of the company that helps with order management from
local producers?

Danaco Solutions helps us manage our fresh produce program

Q: Chipotle - what about sourcing local beef, pork, etc.?

We serve local pork, chicken and beef in some of our restaurants around
the U.S. and in Toronto. The primary challenge that we face is finding
local sources that are able to supply our restaurants year-round, and
that are slaughtering/processing in USDA-inspected facilities with
quality assurance and food safety programs that meet our standards. We
prohibit the use of antibiotics and added hormones we require
all-vegetarian feed, and we require that farmers meet our specific
animal welfare requirements.
We are always working to find more locally raised meat suppliers that
have the scale to supply a portion of our restaurants year-round.

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:26:38 AM UTC-7, la llorona wrote:
> Roy wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:43:17 AM UTC-7, la llorona wrote:
> >> Roy wrote:
> >>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 11:03:57 PM UTC-7, The New Other Guy wrote:
> >>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
> >>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public..
> >>>>
> >>>> <sigh>
> >>>
> >>> And that is a good thing.
> >>>
> >> Due to?
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...0LH15P20150213
> >> Fri Feb 13, 2015
> >> Canada confirms new case of mad cow disease, cattle prices rise
> >
> > COOL discriminated against our beef and pork which are some of the best in the world.
>
> Hey there brudda, when I want holes drilled in my head it's either
> Canuck beef or that Brit BSE stuff!
>
>
> > You wouldn't understand as you are demented and retarded.
> > ====
>
> And your Parliament?
>
>
> http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/re.../prb0301-e.htm
>
> MAD COW DISEASE
> AND CANADA'S CATTLE INDUSTRY
>
> Prepared by:
> Frédéric Forge, Science and Technology Division
> Jean-Denis Fréchette, Principal, Economics Division
> Revised 12 July 2005
>
> BSE IN CANADA BEFORE 2003
> A. The 1993 Case
> B. BSE Monitoring
> C. Measures to Prevent the Emergence of the Disease in Canada....
>
> MAY 2003: A NEW CASE OF MAD COW DISEASE
> A. Results of the Investigation
> B. Suggested Additional Measures
>
>
> Heck yeah, this be FUN!!!!

So good that you are getting edufumagated about BSE and how Canada has effectively dealt with it so as to protect our producers, our public and our export market.
=====

Roy wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:26:38 AM UTC-7, la llorona wrote:
>> Roy wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:43:17 AM UTC-7, la llorona wrote:
>>>> Roy wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 11:03:57 PM UTC-7, The New Other Guy wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, the US Congress has passed a law and the President has signed it,
>>>>>> repealing the Country of Origin Labeling for meat sold to the public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <sigh>
>>>>>
>>>>> And that is a good thing.
>>>>>
>>>> Due to?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...0LH15P20150213
>>>> Fri Feb 13, 2015
>>>> Canada confirms new case of mad cow disease, cattle prices rise
>>>
>>> COOL discriminated against our beef and pork which are some of the best in the world.
>>
>> Hey there brudda, when I want holes drilled in my head it's either
>> Canuck beef or that Brit BSE stuff!
>>
>>
>>> You wouldn't understand as you are demented and retarded.
>>> ====
>>
>> And your Parliament?
>>
>>
>> http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/re.../prb0301-e.htm
>>
>> MAD COW DISEASE
>> AND CANADA'S CATTLE INDUSTRY
>>
>> Prepared by:
>> Frédéric Forge, Science and Technology Division
>> Jean-Denis Fréchette, Principal, Economics Division
>> Revised 12 July 2005
>>
>> BSE IN CANADA BEFORE 2003
>> A. The 1993 Case
>> B. BSE Monitoring
>> C. Measures to Prevent the Emergence of the Disease in Canada....
>>
>> MAY 2003: A NEW CASE OF MAD COW DISEASE
>> A. Results of the Investigation
>> B. Suggested Additional Measures
>>
>>
>> Heck yeah, this be FUN!!!!
>
> So good that you are getting edufumagated about BSE and how Canada has effectively dealt with it so as to protect our producers, our public and our export market.
> =====
>

That was _all done after_ we protected yourselves against YOUR
sponge-drilling beef, you beefwit, lol...

Mooooooooooooooo.

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:53:47 -0700, la llorona > wrote:

> sf wrote:

> > Unfortunately,
> > it's difficult and costly to keep a close eye on so many - so they
> > might have to change a basic part of their business plan (buy local)
> > and go with central suppliers.
>
>
> Um, they do buy locally:
>

Read that again. I said their business plan is to buy local but it
might end up being changed to central suppliers.

> https://chipotle.com/transparency
>
> http://ngfn.org/resources/ngfn-clust...o-and-chipotle
>
>
> Q: Do you work with further processing facilities? For example, grated
> cabbage and carrots that may have been seconds?
> Chipotle’s primary local produce items are all _washed and prepped in
> our restaurants._
>
>
> {Ding! Ding! Ding!!!}
>
Why hasn't an employee tested positive? I don't think it's an
employee problem. There is something going on, but I think it's
sabotage (by whom?) rather than carelessness.
>


--

sf

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:53:47 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>
>>> Unfortunately,
>>> it's difficult and costly to keep a close eye on so many - so they
>>> might have to change a basic part of their business plan (buy local)
>>> and go with central suppliers.
>>
>>
>> Um, they do buy locally:
>>
>
> Read that again. I said their business plan is to buy local but it
> might end up being changed to central suppliers.
>
>> https://chipotle.com/transparency
>>
>> http://ngfn.org/resources/ngfn-clust...o-and-chipotle
>>
>>
>> Q: Do you work with further processing facilities? For example, grated
>> cabbage and carrots that may have been seconds?
>> Chipotle’s primary local produce items are all _washed and prepped in
>> our restaurants._
>>
>>
>> {Ding! Ding! Ding!!!}
>>
> Why hasn't an employee tested positive?

Think about it.

If their own basic sanitation practices haven't nailed them yet, they're
not going to.

They eat there too, likely true, yes?

So they're immune.

> I don't think it's an
> employee problem.

So posit a plausible alternative.

> There is something going on, but I think it's
> sabotage (by whom?) rather than carelessness.

I'm all in for a good whodunit, so tell me...who done it?

And how?

I mean this really could be a major case of corporate espionage.

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 14:14:09 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:53:47 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>
>>> Unfortunately,
>>> it's difficult and costly to keep a close eye on so many - so they
>>> might have to change a basic part of their business plan (buy local)
>>> and go with central suppliers.
>>
>> Um, they do buy locally:
>>
>
> Read that again. I said their business plan is to buy local but it
> might end up being changed to central suppliers.
>
>> https://chipotle.com/transparency
>>
>> http://ngfn.org/resources/ngfn-clust...o-and-chipotle
>>
>> Q: Do you work with further processing facilities? For example, grated
>> cabbage and carrots that may have been seconds?
>> Chipotle’s primary local produce items are all _washed and prepped in
>> our restaurants._
>>
>> {Ding! Ding! Ding!!!}
>>
> Why hasn't an employee tested positive? I don't think it's an
> employee problem. There is something going on, but I think it's
> sabotage (by whom?) rather than carelessness.
>>

It sounds like a Muslim shakedown @ Chipotle is the next step. Detain
everyone in their vegetable supply line, examine their cell phone
communications, find out who the sleeper terrorists are at each store
who aren't eating meals, and in the meantime whip and kick them until
they talk.

Ve have vays to make them talk.

On 12/29/2015 9:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> <cough>.
>
> -sw

You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

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ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

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And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

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ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 12/29/2015 11:19 PM, Jerry Lundegaard wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 14:14:09 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:53:47 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>
>>>> Unfortunately,
>>>> it's difficult and costly to keep a close eye on so many - so they
>>>> might have to change a basic part of their business plan (buy local)
>>>> and go with central suppliers.
>>>
>>> Um, they do buy locally:
>>>
>>
>> Read that again. I said their business plan is to buy local but it
>> might end up being changed to central suppliers.
>>
>>> https://chipotle.com/transparency
>>>
>>> http://ngfn.org/resources/ngfn-clust...o-and-chipotle
>>>
>>> Q: Do you work with further processing facilities? For example, grated
>>> cabbage and carrots that may have been seconds?
>>> Chipotle’s primary local produce items are all _washed and prepped in
>>> our restaurants._
>>>
>>> {Ding! Ding! Ding!!!}
>>>
>> Why hasn't an employee tested positive? I don't think it's an
>> employee problem. There is something going on, but I think it's
>> sabotage (by whom?) rather than carelessness.
>>>
>
> It sounds like a Muslim shakedown @ Chipotle is the next step.


Must not be Halal...

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:27:26 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On 29 Dec 2015 16:47:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2015-12-29, Janet B > wrote:
> >
> > > that was in response to the WTO threats.
> > > My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
> > > lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
> > > the US.
> >
> > ....and all fed GMO foods while being raised in CAFOs.
>
> My understanding was that meat from Mexico was more likely to be free
> of that stuff, because they were more likely to be grass fed up to
> butchering. Now, who knows?
>
Mexican beef typically *is* grass fed. Consequently, it is tougher, less
flavorful and more healthful than feedlot beef.
>
> sf

--Bryan

MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:27:26 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>> On 29 Dec 2015 16:47:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-12-29, Janet B > wrote:
>>>
>>>> that was in response to the WTO threats.
>>>> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
>>>> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
>>>> the US.
>>>
>>> ....and all fed GMO foods while being raised in CAFOs.
>>
>> My understanding was that meat from Mexico was more likely to be free
>> of that stuff, because they were more likely to be grass fed up to
>> butchering. Now, who knows?
>>
> Mexican beef typically *is* grass fed.

And pumpkins in the fall, really.

> Consequently, it is tougher, less
> flavorful and more healthful than feedlot beef.

Yep.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:30:50 -0700, la llorona > wrote:

> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:27:26 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> >> On 29 Dec 2015 16:47:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2015-12-29, Janet B > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> that was in response to the WTO threats.
> >>>> My Winco currently posts signs on the meat cases that state all beef,
> >>>> lamb, goat, chicken and pork has been born, raised and butchered in
> >>>> the US.
> >>>
> >>> ....and all fed GMO foods while being raised in CAFOs.
> >>
> >> My understanding was that meat from Mexico was more likely to be free
> >> of that stuff, because they were more likely to be grass fed up to
> >> butchering. Now, who knows?
> >>
> > Mexican beef typically *is* grass fed.
>
> And pumpkins in the fall, really.
>
ALL beef is grass fed until they are impounded on a feedlot.

> > Consequently, it is tougher, less
> > flavorful and more healthful than feedlot beef.
>
> Yep.

Grass fed beef isn't inherently tougher. It's less marbled, but not
tougher. Toughness is due to other factors, like age. Flavor depends
on terroir, just like wine. Feedlots are what make the flavor of
American beef as predictable as a McDonald's burger.

--

sf

On 2015-12-30 19:18, sf wrote:
>>> Mexican beef typically *is* grass fed.
>>
>> And pumpkins in the fall, really.
>>
> ALL beef is grass fed until they are impounded on a feedlot.

It is? Cattle tend to be put out to pasture and will eat the grass out
there, but they are sometimes also fed hay and grain.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 22:12:14 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2015-12-30 19:18, sf wrote:
> >>> Mexican beef typically *is* grass fed.
> >>
> >> And pumpkins in the fall, really.
> >>
> > ALL beef is grass fed until they are impounded on a feedlot.
>
> It is? Cattle tend to be put out to pasture and will eat the grass out
> there, but they are sometimes also fed hay and grain.
>

To keep them alive during the dead of winter in Canada and parts of
the US. It's not the antibiotic and steroid laden crap they get on a
feedlot.


--

sf

On 2015-12-30 22:29, sf wrote:

>>> ALL beef is grass fed until they are impounded on a feedlot.
>>
>> It is? Cattle tend to be put out to pasture and will eat the grass out
>> there, but they are sometimes also fed hay and grain.
>>
>
> To keep them alive during the dead of winter in Canada and parts of
> the US. It's not the antibiotic and steroid laden crap they get on a
> feedlot.

There are lots of parts of Canada that lie south of cattle growing
regions of the US. Forage food is important for cattle to keep their
guts working properly. They also need grain, and ground corn is a an
especially great feed for fattening cattle.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-12-30 22:29, sf wrote:
>
>>>> ALL beef is grass fed until they are impounded on a feedlot.
>>>
>>> It is? Cattle tend to be put out to pasture and will eat the grass out
>>> there, but they are sometimes also fed hay and grain.
>>>
>>
>> To keep them alive during the dead of winter in Canada and parts of
>> the US. It's not the antibiotic and steroid laden crap they get on a
>> feedlot.
>
> There are lots of parts of Canada that lie south of cattle growing
> regions of the US. Forage food is important for cattle to keep their
> guts working properly. They also need grain, and ground corn is a an
> especially great feed for fattening cattle.

He got that one right.