I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
incredible.

Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
several varieties of lentils, but now navy beans.

Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 4:41:37 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
> and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
> have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
> son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
> incredible.
>
> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
> several varieties of lentils, but now navy beans.
>
> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.

They are better if you make them yourself. I do! Not mushy beans like the called crap! I like my beans to have a little "bite" to them! And when making from drid beans, you can do what you want! So I do! (No I don't have a "recipie" per se.)

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
> They are better if you make them yourself. I do! Not mushy beans like the called crap! I like my beans to have a little "bite" to them! And when making from drid beans, you can do what you want! So I do! (No I don't have a "recipie" per se.)
>
> John Kuthe...


Well here ya go anyway, just cuz I care, bro:

http://countyline.com/menus/sides_recipes.pdf

scroll to: salt pork pinto beans

la llorona wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
>>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
>> They are better if you make them yourself. I do! Not mushy beans like
>> the called crap! I like my beans to have a little "bite" to them! And
>> when making from drid beans, you can do what you want! So I do! (No I
>> don't have a "recipie" per se.)
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>
> Well here ya go anyway, just cuz I care, bro:
>
> http://countyline.com/menus/sides_recipes.pdf
>
> scroll to: salt pork pinto beans


Also my own cowboy beans:

1 pound dried Pinto or Anasazi beans
6 cups clear water
1/2 a cup of dark roast coffee, it just works
1/3 pound salt pork cubed
1 can Hatch red chile sauce
4 large cloves garlic, crushed
1 large onion, chopped
2 tablespoons ancho chili powder
1 teaspoon ground cumin
1/4 cup brown sugar
2 poblano peppers, seeded and chopped
1 bay leaf
1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
1 cup barbecue sauce (Stubbs or KC Masterpeice hickory)


Combine all in Dutch oven.

Bring to a boil, reduce heat to simmer.

Cook slow, covered, about 2 1/2 hours.

Stir beans, add water if looking dry.

Serve with fresh warmed (over a gas flame) flour tortillas on the side.

Sprinkle with rough shredded sharp cheddar.

Sprinkle chopped cilantro on top.

Enjoy.

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 5:10:29 PM UTC-6, la llorona wrote:
> la llorona wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
> >> They are better if you make them yourself. I do! Not mushy beans like
> >> the called crap! I like my beans to have a little "bite" to them! And
> >> when making from drid beans, you can do what you want! So I do! (No I
> >> don't have a "recipie" per se.)
> >>
> >> John Kuthe...
> >
> >
> > Well here ya go anyway, just cuz I care, bro:
> >
> > http://countyline.com/menus/sides_recipes.pdf
> >
> > scroll to: salt pork pinto beans
>
>
> Also my own cowboy beans:
>
> 1 pound dried Pinto or Anasazi beans
> 6 cups clear water
> 1/2 a cup of dark roast coffee, it just works
> 1/3 pound salt pork cubed
> 1 can Hatch red chile sauce
> 4 large cloves garlic, crushed
> 1 large onion, chopped
> 2 tablespoons ancho chili powder
> 1 teaspoon ground cumin
> 1/4 cup brown sugar
> 2 poblano peppers, seeded and chopped
> 1 bay leaf
> 1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
> 1 cup barbecue sauce (Stubbs or KC Masterpeice hickory)
>
>
> Combine all in Dutch oven.
>
> Bring to a boil, reduce heat to simmer.
>
> Cook slow, covered, about 2 1/2 hours.
>
> Stir beans, add water if looking dry.
>
> Serve with fresh warmed (over a gas flame) flour tortillas on the side.
>
> Sprinkle with rough shredded sharp cheddar.
>
> Sprinkle chopped cilantro on top.
>
> Enjoy.

I began making my own "baked beans" and adding chili type seasonings, and it came out tasting like chili!! I stopped putting those spices in.

John Kuthe...

On 30/12/2015 10:36 John Kuthe wrote:

> I began making my own "baked beans" and adding chili type seasonings, and it came out tasting like chili!! I stopped putting those spices in.

Everybody has to admit you follow a clear logic.

--
Bruce

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 5:10:29 PM UTC-6, la llorona wrote:
>> la llorona wrote:
>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
>>>> They are better if you make them yourself. I do! Not mushy beans like
>>>> the called crap! I like my beans to have a little "bite" to them! And
>>>> when making from drid beans, you can do what you want! So I do! (No I
>>>> don't have a "recipie" per se.)
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>>
>>> Well here ya go anyway, just cuz I care, bro:
>>>
>>> http://countyline.com/menus/sides_recipes.pdf
>>>
>>> scroll to: salt pork pinto beans
>>
>>
>> Also my own cowboy beans:
>>
>> 1 pound dried Pinto or Anasazi beans
>> 6 cups clear water
>> 1/2 a cup of dark roast coffee, it just works
>> 1/3 pound salt pork cubed
>> 1 can Hatch red chile sauce
>> 4 large cloves garlic, crushed
>> 1 large onion, chopped
>> 2 tablespoons ancho chili powder
>> 1 teaspoon ground cumin
>> 1/4 cup brown sugar
>> 2 poblano peppers, seeded and chopped
>> 1 bay leaf
>> 1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
>> 1 cup barbecue sauce (Stubbs or KC Masterpeice hickory)
>>
>>
>> Combine all in Dutch oven.
>>
>> Bring to a boil, reduce heat to simmer.
>>
>> Cook slow, covered, about 2 1/2 hours.
>>
>> Stir beans, add water if looking dry.
>>
>> Serve with fresh warmed (over a gas flame) flour tortillas on the side.
>>
>> Sprinkle with rough shredded sharp cheddar.
>>
>> Sprinkle chopped cilantro on top.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>
> I began making my own "baked beans" and adding chili type seasonings, and it came out tasting like chili!! I stopped putting those spices in.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Hint - the coffee makes this...

I just add some bbq sauce to pork and beans. I add chili powder to pintos and red kidney beans.

wrote:
> I just add some bbq sauce to pork and beans. I add chili powder to pintos and red kidney beans.

Yer a regular hillbilly Sandra Lee!

I bet it eats good.

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:41:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
>and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
>have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
>son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
>incredible.
>
>Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>several varieties of lentils, but no navy beans.

They must've had Great Northerns, or Small Whites... look for the Goya
display, usually it's separate, even in a different aisle.

On 2015-12-29 20:58, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>> several varieties of lentils, but no navy beans.
>
> They must've had Great Northerns, or Small Whites... look for the Goya
> display, usually it's separate, even in a different aisle.
>
They were several varieties of legumes from Goya, but no navy beans and
no Great Northern. I know that I have seen them lots of times when I was
looking for split peas and lentils, but the one time in decades that I
wanted to buy them... they did not have them.

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:41:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
>and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
>have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
>son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
>incredible.
>
>Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>several varieties of lentils, but now navy beans.
>
>Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.

This doesn't use navy beans. You might like it.
Tip: When making a recipe like this, go shopping for Bacon Ends and
Pieces. They are cheaper, thicker cut, meatier, and often smokier.

COWBOY BACON BEANS - PIONEER WOMAN
Ingredients
" 4 cups dry pinto beans
" 1 pound thick-cut bacon, cut into pieces
" 2 whole green bell peppers, diced
" 1 whole onion, diced
" 1 cup brown sugar
" 1/4 cup ketchup
" 2 tablespoons mustard
" 1 tablespoon chili powder, optional
" 2 teaspoons salt, more to taste
" 2 teaspoons black pepper, more to taste
" 4 cloves garlic, minced
Directions
Rinse the beans under cold water, sorting out any rocks/particles. Set
aside.
In a heavy pot (cast iron), saute the bacon pieces until halfway
cooked and the fat is rendered. Add the green peppers and onions to
the pot and cook until starting to get brown, about 3 minutes. Add the
beans and cover with water by 1 inch. Bring to a boil, and then add
the brown sugar, ketchup, mustard, chili powder, salt, pepper and
garlic. Reduce the heat to a simmer, place on the lid and cook until
the beans are tender and the liquid is thick 3 to 4 hours.

Janet US

Janet B wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:41:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
>> and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
>> have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
>> son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
>> incredible.
>>
>> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>> several varieties of lentils, but now navy beans.
>>
>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
>
> This doesn't use navy beans. You might like it.
> Tip: When making a recipe like this, go shopping for Bacon Ends and
> Pieces. They are cheaper, thicker cut, meatier, and often smokier.
>
> COWBOY BACON BEANS - PIONEER WOMAN
> Ingredients
> " 4 cups dry pinto beans
> " 1 pound thick-cut bacon, cut into pieces
> " 2 whole green bell peppers, diced
> " 1 whole onion, diced
> " 1 cup brown sugar
> " 1/4 cup ketchup
> " 2 tablespoons mustard
> " 1 tablespoon chili powder, optional
> " 2 teaspoons salt, more to taste
> " 2 teaspoons black pepper, more to taste
> " 4 cloves garlic, minced
> Directions
> Rinse the beans under cold water, sorting out any rocks/particles. Set
> aside.
> In a heavy pot (cast iron), saute the bacon pieces until halfway
> cooked and the fat is rendered. Add the green peppers and onions to
> the pot and cook until starting to get brown, about 3 minutes. Add the
> beans and cover with water by 1 inch. Bring to a boil, and then add
> the brown sugar, ketchup, mustard, chili powder, salt, pepper and
> garlic. Reduce the heat to a simmer, place on the lid and cook until
> the beans are tender and the liquid is thick 3 to 4 hours.
>
> Janet US
>

I like mine better, chile and coffee rock.

On 12/29/2015 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On 30/12/2015 10:36 John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> I began making my own "baked beans" and adding chili type seasonings, and it came out tasting like chili!! I stopped putting those spices in.
>
> Everybody has to admit you follow a clear logic.
>
Oh... well it sounded to me like he's wondering why chili tastes like chili.

Jill

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:41:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
> and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
> have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
> son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
> incredible.
>
> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
> several varieties of lentils, but now navy beans.
>
> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.

What??? How does that happen?

--

sf

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned and
>I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I have had
>home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my son took me
>to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were incredible.
>
> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a pound
> of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a pot luck
> family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some beans. I
> was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had pinto beans,
> kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas, several varieties
> of lentils, but now navy beans.
>
> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.

Dried navy beans are hard to find here. If I can not find them, I will use
the smallest white bean I can find. Or I will start with canned beans. I
have used Great Northern or even pea beans. No difference in the end
results.

That being said, someone on another newsgroup told me years ago the secret
to really good baked beans and that is to use a ton of caramelized onions.
I find when I do that, I can cut back on the other sweeteners and the end
result is out of this world!

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 5:10:29 PM UTC-6, la llorona wrote:
>> la llorona wrote:
>> > John Kuthe wrote:
>> >>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
>> >> They are better if you make them yourself. I do! Not mushy beans like
>> >> the called crap! I like my beans to have a little "bite" to them! And
>> >> when making from drid beans, you can do what you want! So I do! (No I
>> >> don't have a "recipie" per se.)
>> >>
>> >> John Kuthe...
>> >
>> >
>> > Well here ya go anyway, just cuz I care, bro:
>> >
>> > http://countyline.com/menus/sides_recipes.pdf
>> >
>> > scroll to: salt pork pinto beans
>>
>>
>> Also my own cowboy beans:
>>
>> 1 pound dried Pinto or Anasazi beans
>> 6 cups clear water
>> 1/2 a cup of dark roast coffee, it just works
>> 1/3 pound salt pork cubed
>> 1 can Hatch red chile sauce
>> 4 large cloves garlic, crushed
>> 1 large onion, chopped
>> 2 tablespoons ancho chili powder
>> 1 teaspoon ground cumin
>> 1/4 cup brown sugar
>> 2 poblano peppers, seeded and chopped
>> 1 bay leaf
>> 1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
>> 1 cup barbecue sauce (Stubbs or KC Masterpeice hickory)
>>
>>
>> Combine all in Dutch oven.
>>
>> Bring to a boil, reduce heat to simmer.
>>
>> Cook slow, covered, about 2 1/2 hours.
>>
>> Stir beans, add water if looking dry.
>>
>> Serve with fresh warmed (over a gas flame) flour tortillas on the side.
>>
>> Sprinkle with rough shredded sharp cheddar.
>>
>> Sprinkle chopped cilantro on top.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>
> I began making my own "baked beans" and adding chili type seasonings, and
> it came out tasting like chili!! I stopped putting those spices in.
>
> John Kuthe...

Yeah. Although I wouldn't dislike that, if I want baked, I start with a lot
of caramelized onions, a lot of bacon and then some molasses, ketchup,
mustard, tons of freshly ground black pepper and salt to taste. The amount
of ketchup and molasses I use would depend on how sweet the onions are.
Sometimes I just use tomato sauce instead of ketchup. I do not use a lot of
mustard. Just a touch.

> wrote in message
...
>I just add some bbq sauce to pork and beans. I add chili powder to pintos
>and red kidney beans.

Sorry, but, ugh.

I do actually like pork and beans although they are not my favorite form of
beans. And I grew up eating baked beans that are made with them. My mom
didn't cook a lot from scratch although she did make navy bean soup with
dried bean. Her baked beans were good but I knew no different back then.

Then I had baked beans at a potluck that were even better. The woman that
made them showed me how she did it. She actually started with B & M baked
beans and added more stuff to them. This is not how I like to cook! I
won't say that I never do things like this because sometimes we just need a
super quick meal and there isn't time to do more but... I would not do this
with baked beans because I already know that they need to bake for hours and
hours to be good.

Even though my mom and the other lady started with a finished product, they
still cooked their beans for many hours.

I knew there had to be something better.

When we moved to Cape Cod, I found dried beans called Buckeye. They looked
like a larger black eyed pea but without that mealy texture. I followed the
recipe for them that came on the package. Told me to cut through an onion
but leave it intact, then put it in the pot, I guess so you got the flavor
but not the actual onion in there. I did try it that way the first time but
then couldn't bring myself to discard the onion like it said so I cut it up
and mixed it in. The recipe also had an insane amount of sweet things in it
but I wasn't diabetic back then.

The end result was so delicious that I have been experimenting ever since.
I prefer to make my baked beans with dried beans but as in my reply to Dave,
I can't always find dried white beans when I need them so I may use canned
but just plain beans. I have actually ordered navy beans online. They are
just that hard to find, although I have a feeling that the new Winco will
have them in bulk and I should get some the next time I go there.

I have also made bean/corn chili. The original recipe calls for three
different kinds of canned beans, a can of corn and a jar of salsa, dumped
together and heated through. Although it is a tasty meal, it isn't to me
what chili should be. I do doctor it up by adding chili powder and some
other things. I also can't remember the last time that I made it. Husband
and I will both eat it but daughter prefers what I think of as a more
traditional chili with dark red kidney beans and ground beef. I realize
that Texans will disagree and so will sf who likes pintos in her chili. I
love pintos but unless I am making the quick recipe that I mentioned, I
don't think they belong in there.

Most of the time when we eat kidney beans, they are straight up from the
can. And when I say this, I do not mean that I eat straight from the can,
over the sink. I mean that I open the can, dish out and eat. I often put
some on tossed salad. Or in a pasta salad. I just love the taste of them
and they are probably my favorite bean.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-12-29 20:58, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>>> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>>> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>>> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>>> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>>> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>>> several varieties of lentils, but no navy beans.
>>
>> They must've had Great Northerns, or Small Whites... look for the Goya
>> display, usually it's separate, even in a different aisle.
>>
> They were several varieties of legumes from Goya, but no navy beans and no
> Great Northern. I know that I have seen them lots of times when I was
> looking for split peas and lentils, but the one time in decades that I
> wanted to buy them... they did not have them.

I don't know why they are so hard to find now but they sure are. I have to
plan in advance if I want to make baked beans now because I can go to two or
three different stores and come up empty. Then when I do find them, I can
never remember where it was that I found them.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:41:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
>> and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
>> have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
>> son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
>> incredible.
>>
>> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>> several varieties of lentils, but now navy beans.
>>
>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
>
> What??? How does that happen?

That is the case here too, sf. Winco does sell bulk beans but I am not sure
how many varieties. And Whole Foods has a good selection of bulk beans.
But I have learned not to buy bulk ones unless I know they have a really
good turnover. For years, I was given bulk beans and popcorn in my
Christmas stocking and finally I told the giver to just stop! I suspect
maybe the popcorn was the cause of my weevil infestation some years back.
The food was just old! The popcorn didn't pop well and the beans took hours
and hours to cook.

The buyer was particularly fond of a large health food store that sells bulk
things, but I flat out quit shopping there because much of their food is
very old.

When I buy bagged dried beans, I am finding a very paltry selection in most
stores and have even had a hard time finding split peas at times. I guess
there just isn't much of a demand for these things any more.

On 12/29/2015 09:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
> I don't know why they [Navy Beans] are so hard to find now but they sure are. I have
> to plan in advance if I want to make baked beans now because I can go to
> two or three different stores and come up empty. Then when I do find
> them, I can never remember where it was that I found them.

I always find them at Winco, in the bulk food bins. PLU 1644, FWIW. I
agree they're scarce elsewhere.

"Whirled Peas" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/29/2015 09:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know why they [Navy Beans] are so hard to find now but they sure
>> are. I have
>> to plan in advance if I want to make baked beans now because I can go to
>> two or three different stores and come up empty. Then when I do find
>> them, I can never remember where it was that I found them.
>
> I always find them at Winco, in the bulk food bins. PLU 1644, FWIW. I
> agree they're scarce elsewhere.

I have only been to the new Winco a few times and only to the bulk section
once. Due to the layout of the store, the bulk section seems rather closed
off. At the Everett store there is plenty of room and you can easily get in
and out of that section. But at the new one, the aisles have been teeming
with people and if you do dare to go in there, you can't get out very
easily. Will try to look next time I am there.

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 9:37:58 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

> They were several varieties of legumes from Goya, but no navy beans and
> no Great Northern. I know that I have seen them lots of times when I was
> looking for split peas and lentils, but the one time in decades that I
> wanted to buy them... they did not have them.

My only experience with Goya is with canned beans. In a can, they
have what they called "small white beans". They might also have
them dried.

I can't figure out what difference it might make which bean one
uses, but then again I don't like beans very much. They all
taste the same to me. I'll sometimes take a forkful or two of
baked beans to be polite, but I try to swallow them ASAP without
tasting them. Luckily I'm not in that position very often.

When I do eat beans, I prefer them toothsome, although I'll put
a can of Great Northern into a vegetable soup, and red lentils
cooked to "pease porridge" consistency don't bother me.

Cindy Hamilton

Yellow eyed beans are good but are hard to find.

In article >, says...

> I don't know why they are so hard to find now but they sure are. I have to
> plan in advance if I want to make baked beans now because I can go to two or
> three different stores and come up empty. Then when I do find them, I can
> never remember where it was that I found them.

D'you know what, Julie, when I find a source of something hard-to-
find, I just write it down to remind myself next time. Ditto birthdays,
appointments, dates I might forget etc.

Janet UK

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:37:57 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-12-29 20:58, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>>> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>>> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>>> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>>> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>>> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>>> several varieties of lentils, but no navy beans.
>>
>> They must've had Great Northerns, or Small Whites... look for the Goya
>> display, usually it's separate, even in a different aisle.
>>
>They were several varieties of legumes from Goya, but no navy beans and
>no Great Northern. I know that I have seen them lots of times when I was
>looking for split peas and lentils, but the one time in decades that I
>wanted to buy them... they did not have them.

This is the time of year when there's a run on dried beans, winter in
the north is soup making season... I couldn't find navy beans either
but I did find great northerns, and the stock on the shelf was low.
Next I'm at BJ's I will stock up, they sell dried beans in five pound
bags. When I lived on Long Island I shopped at Compare Markets, they
are heavy into Hispanic foods, they sell all sorts of beans in hundred
pound sacks, rice too. I miss that store, their produce section was
amazing... they catered to the Asian and Indian population too, they
carried produce I didn't know what it was and had no idea how to
prepare.
http://comparesupermarkets.com/

On 2015-12-29 10:51 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:41:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
>> and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
>> have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
>> son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
>> incredible.
>>
>> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>> several varieties of lentils, but now navy beans.
>>
>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
>
> This doesn't use navy beans. You might like it.
> Tip: When making a recipe like this, go shopping for Bacon Ends and
> Pieces. They are cheaper, thicker cut, meatier, and often smokier.
>
> COWBOY BACON BEANS - PIONEER WOMAN
> Ingredients
> " 4 cups dry pinto beans
> " 1 pound thick-cut bacon, cut into pieces
> " 2 whole green bell peppers, diced
> " 1 whole onion, diced
> " 1 cup brown sugar
> " 1/4 cup ketchup
> " 2 tablespoons mustard
> " 1 tablespoon chili powder, optional
> " 2 teaspoons salt, more to taste
> " 2 teaspoons black pepper, more to taste
> " 4 cloves garlic, minced
> Directions
> Rinse the beans under cold water, sorting out any rocks/particles. Set
> aside.
> In a heavy pot (cast iron), saute the bacon pieces until halfway
> cooked and the fat is rendered. Add the green peppers and onions to
> the pot and cook until starting to get brown, about 3 minutes. Add the
> beans and cover with water by 1 inch. Bring to a boil, and then add
> the brown sugar, ketchup, mustard, chili powder, salt, pepper and
> garlic. Reduce the heat to a simmer, place on the lid and cook until
> the beans are tender and the liquid is thick 3 to 4 hours.
>
> Janet US
>


Thanks... Can you send me some beans too ? ;-)

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 22:52:53 -0800, Whirled Peas >
wrote:

>On 12/29/2015 09:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know why they [Navy Beans] are so hard to find now but they sure are. I have
>> to plan in advance if I want to make baked beans now because I can go to
>> two or three different stores and come up empty. Then when I do find
>> them, I can never remember where it was that I found them.
>
>I always find them at Winco, in the bulk food bins. PLU 1644, FWIW. I
>agree they're scarce elsewhere.

Depends where one lives... if you live inland you probably won't find
anything nautical. lol

On 12/30/2015 8:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> <yawn>
>
> -sw

You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 12/30/2015 12:48 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> for 30% less.
>
> -sw

You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:55:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2015-12-29 20:58, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>>> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>>>> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>>>> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>>>> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>>>> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>>>> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>>>> several varieties of lentils, but no navy beans.
>>>
>>> They must've had Great Northerns, or Small Whites... look for the Goya
>>> display, usually it's separate, even in a different aisle.
>>>
>> They were several varieties of legumes from Goya, but no navy beans and no
>> Great Northern. I know that I have seen them lots of times when I was
>> looking for split peas and lentils, but the one time in decades that I
>> wanted to buy them... they did not have them.
>
>I don't know why they are so hard to find now but they sure are. I have to
>plan in advance if I want to make baked beans now because I can go to two or
>three different stores and come up empty. Then when I do find them, I can
>never remember where it was that I found them.

Reasonably priced:
http://shop.honeyville.com/small-whi...eans-25lb.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...r_1_32&sr=8-32
I paid $1.69/lb for store brand at my local market... but it cost me
at least $2 for gas... Amazon is free shipping, Honeyville is $5
shipping on any size order, plus they got me for $20 worth of
groceries I wouldn't have bought and really didn't need at the moment
had I not been there. Twenty five pounds of dried beans is like a
nothing if you're Hispanic... can always split it with a neighbor,
that's what I did with 50 lb sacks of steel cut oats from
Honeyville... I happen to have a neighbor who's a good Irish Catholic,
has six kids and a slew of grands, she took half of my bag and another
whole bag.

On 12/30/2015 8:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 22:52:53 -0800, Whirled Peas >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/29/2015 09:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why they [Navy Beans] are so hard to find now but they sure are. I have
>>> to plan in advance if I want to make baked beans now because I can go to
>>> two or three different stores and come up empty. Then when I do find
>>> them, I can never remember where it was that I found them.
>>
>> I always find them at Winco, in the bulk food bins. PLU 1644, FWIW. I
>> agree they're scarce elsewhere.
>
> Depends where one lives... if you live inland you probably won't find
> anything nautical. lol
>


How many islands have you lived on you provincial New Yawk oaf?

On 12/30/2015 5:43 AM, wrote:
> Yellow eyed beans are good but are hard to find.
>
Blood bank - word.

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>
>> I don't know why they are so hard to find now but they sure are. I have
>> to
>> plan in advance if I want to make baked beans now because I can go to two
>> or
>> three different stores and come up empty. Then when I do find them, I
>> can
>> never remember where it was that I found them.
>
> D'you know what, Julie, when I find a source of something hard-to-
> find, I just write it down to remind myself next time. Ditto birthdays,
> appointments, dates I might forget etc.

Birthdays stay the same. The stock that a store sells, changes frequently.
Especially if those stores are Safeway and Albertsons. A list wouldn't help
me there.

On 12/30/2015 12:23 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> My "Monk's breakfast" as Bryan said.
>
> John Kuthe...

He misses yer schlong.

On 12/30/2015 9:01 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Twenty five pounds of dried beans is like a
> nothing if you're Hispanic...

Stereotype much?

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:06:33 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-12-29 10:51 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:41:39 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I had a lot of baked beans when I was young but they were always canned
>>> and I never developed a great appreciation for them. A couple times I
>>> have had home made baked beans and they were much better. Last month my
>>> son took me to a BBQ joint in Buffalo and they had beans that were
>>> incredible.
>>>
>>> Realizing how good they can be, I looked up some recipes and was all set
>>> to give them a try. I was planning to use a recipe that called for a
>>> pound of bacon. Today I had to go to a store to get some things for a
>>> pot luck family thing tomorrow and planned to get some bacon and some
>>> beans. I was surprised to find they did not have navy beans. They had
>>> pinto beans, kidney beans, black eye peas, yellow peas, green peas,
>>> several varieties of lentils, but now navy beans.
>>>
>>> Dang. I was looking forward to some good beans.
>>
>> This doesn't use navy beans. You might like it.
>> Tip: When making a recipe like this, go shopping for Bacon Ends and
>> Pieces. They are cheaper, thicker cut, meatier, and often smokier.
>>
>> COWBOY BACON BEANS - PIONEER WOMAN
>> Ingredients
>> " 4 cups dry pinto beans
>> " 1 pound thick-cut bacon, cut into pieces
>> " 2 whole green bell peppers, diced
>> " 1 whole onion, diced
>> " 1 cup brown sugar
>> " 1/4 cup ketchup
>> " 2 tablespoons mustard
>> " 1 tablespoon chili powder, optional
>> " 2 teaspoons salt, more to taste
>> " 2 teaspoons black pepper, more to taste
>> " 4 cloves garlic, minced
>> Directions
>> Rinse the beans under cold water, sorting out any rocks/particles. Set
>> aside.
>> In a heavy pot (cast iron), saute the bacon pieces until halfway
>> cooked and the fat is rendered. Add the green peppers and onions to
>> the pot and cook until starting to get brown, about 3 minutes. Add the
>> beans and cover with water by 1 inch. Bring to a boil, and then add
>> the brown sugar, ketchup, mustard, chili powder, salt, pepper and
>> garlic. Reduce the heat to a simmer, place on the lid and cook until
>> the beans are tender and the liquid is thick 3 to 4 hours.
>>
>> Janet US
>>
>
>
>Thanks... Can you send me some beans too ? ;-)

As is often the case with reading this group, I get a craving for the
food being discussed. I see cowboy beans in the near future. I'm not
clear on what you want -- is it the pinto beans or the cowboy beans?
I'll send both, O.K.?
Janet US

Sqwertz wrote:
> Same 'ol song and dance.
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

Sqwertz wrote:
> What's PLU 1645?
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 12/30/2015 11:01 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
> Reasonably priced:
> http://shop.honeyville.com/small-whi...eans-25lb.html
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...r_1_32&sr=8-32
> I paid $1.69/lb for store brand at my local market... but it cost me
> at least $2 for gas... Amazon is free shipping, Honeyville is $5
> shipping on any size order,

Whatever.

> plus they got me for $20 worth of
> groceries I wouldn't have bought and really didn't need at the moment

Were you sitting there in front of the monitor, hungry? Thinking, "Oh,
that looks good. Yes, add that to my cart, too!"

> Twenty five pounds of dried beans is like a
> nothing if you're Hispanic...

Of course you know so many Hispanic people. LOL

> can always split it with a neighbor,
> that's what I did with 50 lb sacks of steel cut oats from
> Honeyville... I happen to have a neighbor who's a good Irish Catholic,
> has six kids and a slew of grands, she took half of my bag and another
> whole bag.
>
Sure. Did the Irish neighbor with all the children and grands tell you
they needed oats? I cannot think of any reason why you would buy 50 lb.
sacks of steel cut oats. Perhaps you're feeling a tad irregular...

Jill