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dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, wrote: >>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: >>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>> >>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>> >>>>> Janet US >>>> >>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar playing. >>> >>> I've always believed that the best players are people that nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey.  >> >> A sound appraisal. >> >> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. > > The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a performing monkey did not appeal to him either. > >> >> Under many radars: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >> >> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. > > I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with the electric guitar for the last 60 years. Yeppers. > It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic Telecaster. > > I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. I had a feeling you might. Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? |
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On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: > >> dsi1 wrote: > >>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, wrote: > >>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: > >>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices > >>>>> > >>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. > >>>>> > >>>>> Janet US > >>>> > >>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar playing. > >>> > >>> I've always believed that the best players are people that nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. > >> > >> A sound appraisal. > >> > >> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. > > > > The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a performing monkey did not appeal to him either.. > > > >> > >> Under many radars: > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM > >> > >> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. > > > > I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with the electric guitar for the last 60 years. > > Yeppers. > > > It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic Telecaster. > > > > I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. > > I had a feeling you might. > > Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long as he's a very diligent monkey. |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: >>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>> >>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar playing. >>>>> >>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>> >>>> A sound appraisal. >>>> >>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. >>> >>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>> >>>> >>>> Under many radars: >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>> >>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>> >>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >> >> Yeppers. >> >>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic Telecaster. >>> >>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. >> >> I had a feeling you might. >> >> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? > > Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long as he's a very diligent monkey. > I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... ;-) |
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On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 3:42:14 PM UTC-5, el mismo de siempre wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 12:42:40 PM UTC-5, wrote: > >> John barleycvorn sounds too much like folk music. > > > > You say that like it's a bad thing. > > It's grating to those of us who survived the Kingston Trio without a > lobotomy. > > > And yes, John Barleycorn is a folk song that Traffic recorded. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > Englie folk music should be speeded up and electrified mo > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0k7YZLD2iI De gustibus I like lots of different kinds of music, but my least favorites always have been the kinds played on electric guitars. This is more to my taste: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPYAZUcohmw> The guy had a beautiful, warm voice. Or, since that was a capella, perhaps something more like this: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfoHF-jYUy4> Although the stuff on that album is not English folk music. Cindy Hamilton Cindy Hamilton |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 11:03:21 AM UTC-5, el mismo de siempre wrote: > > Gary wrote: > > > sf wrote: > > >> > > >> Janet B wrote: > > >>> I have a recipe that wants fresh chopped onion, tomato, garlic, salt, > > >>> olive oil) oregano, black olives and parmesan. No sauce. No > > >>> directions for thick crust. It always smells and tastes divine. > > >>> I always took it to be a busy woman making bread, taking a bit of > > >>> dough and things from her garden to make a tasty dinner. > > >>> Janet US > > >> > > >> There's probably a little olive oil on the dough. Just make your > > >> regular crust. > > > > > > Definitely olive oil sprinkled generously on top. AKA 'white pizza' in > > > my world...any one made without a sauce of any kind. I make them > > > fairly often and love them. I also add some fresh saueed broccoli on > > > most of mine. It's delicious but only if you like broccoli. Heavy on > > > the garlic too. > > > > > > > How could anyone like broccoli enough to do THAT to a pizza??? > > I like a little chopped broccoli on a pizza, although I put it > raw on top and let the ripping hot oven brown it up a bit. I cook some garlic in oil then do a quick stir fry with the broccoli...only about 10 seconds. I don't cook the broccoli, I just like to coat it with that flavored oil before adding to the pizza. Cooking the pizza is what cooks the broccoli a bit...and browns it. |
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On 1/6/2016 7:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On 7/1/2016 11:48 MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: > >> On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:02:28 PM UTC-6, wrote: >>> They both use a wa wa pedal for Clapton. >> >> I like Clapton best when he keeps his mouth shut and plays an electric guitar >> with a wah wah pedal. It's also interesting that both of those songs have >> lyrics written by a non-band member. Actually, I don't have a problem with >> Clapton's vocals, but after Cream ended he started writing...like the three >> songs that Jared mentioned. > > This single is all I ever owned by Clapton: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRTvQd-CHbg > > He didn't write it, but I like his version. > If you like Clapton you might like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSbqm7ZK_9s IIRC he wrote it after his infant son, Connor, fell from a 23rd storey balcony. It's heartrending. Jill |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 3:42:14 PM UTC-5, el mismo de siempre wrote: >> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 12:42:40 PM UTC-5, wrote: >>>> John barleycvorn sounds too much like folk music. >>> >>> You say that like it's a bad thing. >> >> It's grating to those of us who survived the Kingston Trio without a >> lobotomy. >> >>> And yes, John Barleycorn is a folk song that Traffic recorded. >>> >>> Cindy Hamilton >> >> Englie folk music should be speeded up and electrified mo >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0k7YZLD2iI > > De gustibus > > I like lots of different kinds of music, but my least favorites > always have been the kinds played on electric guitars. Pity that, they're the pride of southern Englie-land. > This is more to my taste: > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPYAZUcohmw> > > The guy had a beautiful, warm voice. He does, and that is _very_ traditional! > Or, since that was a capella, perhaps something more like this: > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfoHF-jYUy4> > > Although the stuff on that album is not English folk music. Now that one I think is a really outstanding song! Thanks for sharing. > Cindy Hamilton I'm not a folkie per se, but that man has talent. Perhaps you might also relate to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3m7ckGhnsc |
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On 1/4/2016 8:22 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> People tend to exaggerate You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man! Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the net against her will, including her: * home address * age * cell phone number * husband's name etc. YOU did that, you evil *******! And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600 MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4 She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop. So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group. -sw ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin favorite, right off the Usenet! In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this: "The facebook group is much more pleasant." But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear of being booted by the FB admins. You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done. I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here. And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry. Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******! |
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On 9/1/2016 02:48 jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/6/2016 7:51 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On 7/1/2016 11:48 MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:02:28 PM UTC-6, wrote: >>>> They both use a wa wa pedal for Clapton. >>> >>> I like Clapton best when he keeps his mouth shut and plays an electric guitar >>> with a wah wah pedal. It's also interesting that both of those songs have >>> lyrics written by a non-band member. Actually, I don't have a problem with >>> Clapton's vocals, but after Cream ended he started writing...like the three >>> songs that Jared mentioned. >> >> This single is all I ever owned by Clapton: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRTvQd-CHbg >> >> He didn't write it, but I like his version. >> > If you like Clapton you might like this one: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSbqm7ZK_9s > > IIRC he wrote it after his infant son, Connor, fell from a 23rd storey > balcony. It's heartrending. Yes, it's kind of hard to listen to when you know what it's about. -- Bruce |
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On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: >> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: >>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better >>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar >>>>>>> playing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that >>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you >>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the >>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>>> >>>>> A sound appraisal. >>>>> >>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. >>>> >>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you >>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar >>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and >>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a >>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Under many radars: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>>> >>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>>> >>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar >>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with >>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >>> >>> Yeppers. >>> >>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've >>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic >>>> Telecaster. >>>> >>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. >>> >>> I had a feeling you might. >>> >>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? >> >> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long >> as he's a very diligent monkey. >> > I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... > > ;-) Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! |
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On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:03:15 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 1/6/2016 7:51 PM, Bruce wrote: > > On 7/1/2016 11:48 MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: > > > >> On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:02:28 PM UTC-6, wrote: > >>> They both use a wa wa pedal for Clapton. > >> > >> I like Clapton best when he keeps his mouth shut and plays an electric guitar > >> with a wah wah pedal. It's also interesting that both of those songs have > >> lyrics written by a non-band member. Actually, I don't have a problem with > >> Clapton's vocals, but after Cream ended he started writing...like the three > >> songs that Jared mentioned. > > > > This single is all I ever owned by Clapton: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRTvQd-CHbg > > > > He didn't write it, but I like his version. > > > If you like Clapton you might like this one: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSbqm7ZK_9s > > IIRC he wrote it after his infant son, Connor, fell from a 23rd storey > balcony. It's heartrending. > By all reports, Eric Clapton was a nice guy, and I'm sorry this happened to him, but that doesn't make the song less agonizingly boring. > > Jill --Bryan |
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MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:03:15 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote: >> On 1/6/2016 7:51 PM, Bruce wrote: >>> On 7/1/2016 11:48 MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: >>> >>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:02:28 PM UTC-6, wrote: >>>>> They both use a wa wa pedal for Clapton. >>>> >>>> I like Clapton best when he keeps his mouth shut and plays an electric guitar >>>> with a wah wah pedal. It's also interesting that both of those songs have >>>> lyrics written by a non-band member. Actually, I don't have a problem with >>>> Clapton's vocals, but after Cream ended he started writing...like the three >>>> songs that Jared mentioned. >>> >>> This single is all I ever owned by Clapton: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRTvQd-CHbg >>> >>> He didn't write it, but I like his version. >>> >> If you like Clapton you might like this one: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSbqm7ZK_9s >> >> IIRC he wrote it after his infant son, Connor, fell from a 23rd storey >> balcony. It's heartrending. >> > By all reports, Eric Clapton was a nice guy, and I'm sorry this happened to > him, but that doesn't make the song less agonizingly boring. Someone force you to listen to it? I could pass kidney stones hearing "Hey Jude" again. |
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On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > >> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: > >>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: > >>>>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: > >>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Janet US > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better > >>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar > >>>>>>> playing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that > >>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you > >>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the > >>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. > >>>>> > >>>>> A sound appraisal. > >>>>> > >>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. > >>>> > >>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you > >>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar > >>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and > >>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a > >>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Under many radars: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM > >>>>> > >>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. > >>>> > >>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar > >>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with > >>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. > >>> > >>> Yeppers. > >>> > >>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've > >>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic > >>>> Telecaster. > >>>> > >>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. > >>> > >>> I had a feeling you might. > >>> > >>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? > >> > >> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long > >> as he's a very diligent monkey. > >> > > I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... > > > > ;-) > > Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have > small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, > which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a > tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster > plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful with the cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge (most folks don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little extra work changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the bridge cover is so, so pretty. http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure that real guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song hack like me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and in 1st position the neck feels really nice. http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it would make the guitar even prettier. Like this one. http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg --Bryan |
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MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: >> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better >>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar >>>>>>>>> playing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that >>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you >>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the >>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A sound appraisal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. >>>>>> >>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you >>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar >>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and >>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a >>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Under many radars: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar >>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with >>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >>>>> >>>>> Yeppers. >>>>> >>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've >>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic >>>>>> Telecaster. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> I had a feeling you might. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? >>>> >>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long >>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. >>>> >>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... >>> >>> ;-) >> >> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have >> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, >> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a >> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster >> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! > > The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful with the > cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge (most folks > don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), Never heard of chicken picking? Charlatan. > and adds a little extra work > changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the bridge cover > is so, so pretty. > > http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg It's a nice shiny ashtray, not much more. > Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure that real > guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song hack like > me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and in 1st > position the neck feels really nice. > > http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 Digging the soapbar humbuckers and thinline body. > If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it would make > the guitar even prettier. Like this one. > http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg Meh, but for rhythmn only, useful. > Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. > http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg > > --Bryan > Ashtrays. |
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On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: >> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better >>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar >>>>>>>>> playing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that >>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you >>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the >>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A sound appraisal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. >>>>>> >>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you >>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar >>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and >>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a >>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Under many radars: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar >>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with >>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >>>>> >>>>> Yeppers. >>>>> >>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've >>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic >>>>>> Telecaster. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> I had a feeling you might. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? >>>> >>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long >>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. >>>> >>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... >>> >>> ;-) >> >> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have >> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, >> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a >> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster >> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! > > The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful with the > cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge (most folks > don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little extra work > changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the bridge cover > is so, so pretty. > > http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg > > Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure that real > guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song hack like > me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and in 1st > position the neck feels really nice. > > http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 > > If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it would make > the guitar even prettier. Like this one. > http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg > > Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. > http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg > > --Bryan > The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a lot of sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area of an other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup. This was a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be noisy from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the lap steel player's picking hand. The cover proved to be impractical for guitar pickers and most of them were pulled off right quick. I wouldn't want to play a Tele with the cover on because that would pretty much mean I couldn't use most dampening technique. OTOH, if I was buying a vintage Telecaster, the original cover included would be a very good thing. |
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On 09/01/2016 2:13 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 1/7/16 9:27 AM, wrote: > >> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better than >> guys like Clatpton [sic] or Page that will never make a dollar playing. > > Every time I hear someone say that, the players turn out to be fine > mechanically with no tonal or interpretative abilities. I call them > guitar plumbers. > > -- Larry > > Same thing goes for classical pianists. For example, Lang Lang is a brilliant pianist but a lousy musician. Graham |
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> On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: >> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: >>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better >>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar >>>>>>>>>> playing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that >>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you >>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the >>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A sound appraisal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you >>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar >>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and >>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a >>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Under many radars: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar >>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with >>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeppers. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've >>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic >>>>>>> Telecaster. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a feeling you might. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? >>>>> >>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long >>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. >>>>> >>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... >>>> >>>> ;-) >>> >>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have >>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, >>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a >>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster >>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! >> >> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful with >> the >> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge (most >> folks >> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little extra >> work >> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the bridge >> cover >> is so, so pretty. >> >> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg >> >> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure that real >> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song hack >> like >> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and >> in 1st >> position the neck feels really nice. >> >> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 >> >> >> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it >> would make >> the guitar even prettier. Like this one. >> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg >> >> >> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. >> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg >> >> >> --Bryan >> > > The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a lot of > sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area of an > other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup. This was > a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some > electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be noisy > from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the lap > steel player's picking hand. But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after market now? Well.... http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/ > The cover proved to be impractical for guitar pickers and most of them > were pulled off right quick. I wouldn't want to play a Tele with the > cover on because that would pretty much mean I couldn't use most > dampening technique. OTOH, if I was buying a vintage Telecaster, the > original cover included would be a very good thing. Yep. |
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On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:39:41 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: > >> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: > >>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: > >>>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Janet US > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better > >>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar > >>>>>>>>>> playing. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that > >>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you > >>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the > >>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> A sound appraisal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you > >>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar > >>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and > >>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a > >>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Under many radars: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar > >>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with > >>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yeppers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've > >>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic > >>>>>>> Telecaster. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I had a feeling you might. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? > >>>>> > >>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long > >>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. > >>>>> > >>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... > >>>> > >>>> ;-) > >>> > >>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have > >>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, > >>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a > >>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster > >>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! > >> > >> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful with > >> the > >> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge (most > >> folks > >> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little extra > >> work > >> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the bridge > >> cover > >> is so, so pretty. > >> > >> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg > >> > >> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure that real > >> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song hack > >> like > >> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and > >> in 1st > >> position the neck feels really nice. > >> > >> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 > >> > >> > >> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it > >> would make > >> the guitar even prettier. Like this one. > >> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg > >> > >> > >> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. > >> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg > >> > >> > >> --Bryan > >> > > > > The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a lot of > > sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area of an > > other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup. This was > > a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some > > electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be noisy > > from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the lap > > steel player's picking hand. > > But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after > market now? A lot of the Telecasters sold these days still have pickups with a design Fender developed in the 40's. The pickups introduced by Gibson in 1957 were quieter, more fuller sounding, and stronger. The Gibson humbucker defined the sound of late 60's and 70's rock but I wanted a guitar to sound more like the Beatles and less like the Stones. > > Well.... > > http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/ Those sound pretty good. Less tweet and more balls. They would be a good choice on a Tele - I think. > > > The cover proved to be impractical for guitar pickers and most of them > > were pulled off right quick. I wouldn't want to play a Tele with the > > cover on because that would pretty much mean I couldn't use most > > dampening technique. OTOH, if I was buying a vintage Telecaster, the > > original cover included would be a very good thing. > > Yep. |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:39:41 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: >>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better >>>>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar >>>>>>>>>>>> playing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that >>>>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you >>>>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the >>>>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A sound appraisal. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you >>>>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar >>>>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and >>>>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a >>>>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Under many radars: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar >>>>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with >>>>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeppers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've >>>>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic >>>>>>>>> Telecaster. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had a feeling you might. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long >>>>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... >>>>>> >>>>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have >>>>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, >>>>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a >>>>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster >>>>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! >>>> >>>> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful with >>>> the >>>> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge (most >>>> folks >>>> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little extra >>>> work >>>> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the bridge >>>> cover >>>> is so, so pretty. >>>> >>>> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg >>>> >>>> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure that real >>>> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song hack >>>> like >>>> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and >>>> in 1st >>>> position the neck feels really nice. >>>> >>>> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 >>>> >>>> >>>> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it >>>> would make >>>> the guitar even prettier. Like this one. >>>> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg >>>> >>>> >>>> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. >>>> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg >>>> >>>> >>>> --Bryan >>>> >>> >>> The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a lot of >>> sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area of an >>> other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup. This was >>> a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some >>> electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be noisy >>> from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the lap >>> steel player's picking hand. >> >> But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after >> market now? > > A lot of the Telecasters sold these days still have pickups with a design Fender developed in the 40's. True day - the reissue market is strong. > The pickups introduced by Gibson in 1957 were quieter, more fuller sounding, and stronger. Far more, yes. > The Gibson humbucker defined the sound of late 60's and 70's rock but I wanted a guitar to sound more like the Beatles and less like the Stones. > So you wanted a Rickenbacker! Who didn't? >> Well.... >> >> http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/ > > Those sound pretty good. Less tweet and more balls. They would be a good choice on a Tele - I think. I think so too, the spectrum of choices is so broad now! Consider: http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/...nd-tele-bridge or... http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/little-59-tele hmmm.... >> >>> The cover proved to be impractical for guitar pickers and most of them >>> were pulled off right quick. I wouldn't want to play a Tele with the >>> cover on because that would pretty much mean I couldn't use most >>> dampening technique. OTOH, if I was buying a vintage Telecaster, the >>> original cover included would be a very good thing. >> >> Yep. |
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On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 9:31:43 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:39:41 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: > >> dsi1 wrote: > >>> On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: > >>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: > >>>>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: > >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet US > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better > >>>>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar > >>>>>>>>>>>> playing. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that > >>>>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you > >>>>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the > >>>>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> A sound appraisal. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you > >>>>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar > >>>>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and > >>>>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a > >>>>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Under many radars: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar > >>>>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with > >>>>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yeppers. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've > >>>>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic > >>>>>>>>> Telecaster. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I had a feeling you might. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long > >>>>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ;-) > >>>>> > >>>>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have > >>>>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, > >>>>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a > >>>>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster > >>>>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! > >>>> > >>>> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful with > >>>> the > >>>> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge (most > >>>> folks > >>>> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little extra > >>>> work > >>>> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the bridge > >>>> cover > >>>> is so, so pretty. > >>>> > >>>> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg > >>>> > >>>> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure that real > >>>> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song hack > >>>> like > >>>> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and > >>>> in 1st > >>>> position the neck feels really nice. > >>>> > >>>> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it > >>>> would make > >>>> the guitar even prettier. Like this one. > >>>> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. > >>>> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --Bryan > >>>> > >>> > >>> The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a lot of > >>> sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area of an > >>> other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup. This was > >>> a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some > >>> electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be noisy > >>> from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the lap > >>> steel player's picking hand. > >> > >> But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after > >> market now? > > > > A lot of the Telecasters sold these days still have pickups with a design Fender developed in the 40's. > > True day - the reissue market is strong. > > > The pickups introduced by Gibson in 1957 were quieter, more fuller sounding, and stronger. > > Far more, yes. > > > The Gibson humbucker defined the sound of late 60's and 70's rock but I wanted a guitar to sound more like the Beatles and less like the Stones. > > > > So you wanted a Rickenbacker! > > Who didn't? > > >> Well.... > >> > >> http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/ > > > > Those sound pretty good. Less tweet and more balls. They would be a good choice on a Tele - I think. > > I think so too, the spectrum of choices is so broad now! > > Consider: > > http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/...nd-tele-bridge > > or... > > http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/little-59-tele > > hmmm.... The sky's the limit as to pickups for Teles. Alumitones might work, although I don't think they make those for a conventional bridge install. I have used them on an archtop guitar but that extended tonal range is not something that I want on an archtop - on a Tele, however... http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php > > >> > >>> The cover proved to be impractical for guitar pickers and most of them > >>> were pulled off right quick. I wouldn't want to play a Tele with the > >>> cover on because that would pretty much mean I couldn't use most > >>> dampening technique. OTOH, if I was buying a vintage Telecaster, the > >>> original cover included would be a very good thing. > >> > >> Yep. |
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> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 9:31:43 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:39:41 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: >>>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play better >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a dollar >>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that >>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough - you >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never had the >>>>>>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A sound appraisal. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great music. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people around you >>>>>>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar >>>>>>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and >>>>>>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a >>>>>>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Under many radars: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar >>>>>>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our history with >>>>>>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeppers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've >>>>>>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic >>>>>>>>>>> Telecaster. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I had a feeling you might. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - as long >>>>>>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. I have >>>>>>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 tubes, >>>>>>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a >>>>>>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a Telecaster >>>>>>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as all shit! >>>>>> >>>>>> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful with >>>>>> the >>>>>> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge (most >>>>>> folks >>>>>> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little extra >>>>>> work >>>>>> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the bridge >>>>>> cover >>>>>> is so, so pretty. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure that real >>>>>> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song hack >>>>>> like >>>>>> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and >>>>>> in 1st >>>>>> position the neck feels really nice. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it >>>>>> would make >>>>>> the guitar even prettier. Like this one. >>>>>> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. >>>>>> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --Bryan >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a lot of >>>>> sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area of an >>>>> other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup. This was >>>>> a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some >>>>> electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be noisy >>>>> from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the lap >>>>> steel player's picking hand. >>>> >>>> But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after >>>> market now? >>> >>> A lot of the Telecasters sold these days still have pickups with a design Fender developed in the 40's. >> >> True day - the reissue market is strong. >> >>> The pickups introduced by Gibson in 1957 were quieter, more fuller sounding, and stronger. >> >> Far more, yes. >> >>> The Gibson humbucker defined the sound of late 60's and 70's rock but I wanted a guitar to sound more like the Beatles and less like the Stones. >>> >> >> So you wanted a Rickenbacker! >> >> Who didn't? >> >>>> Well.... >>>> >>>> http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/ >>> >>> Those sound pretty good. Less tweet and more balls. They would be a good choice on a Tele - I think. >> >> I think so too, the spectrum of choices is so broad now! >> >> Consider: >> >> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/...nd-tele-bridge >> >> or... >> >> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/little-59-tele >> >> hmmm.... > > The sky's the limit as to pickups for Teles. Alumitones might work, although I don't think they make those for a conventional bridge install. I have used them on an archtop guitar but that extended tonal range is not something that I want on an archtop - on a Tele, however... Fair point, to much tonal range on an archtop will lead to unpleasant harmonics, iirc. I wonder of that's why Fender chose not to use single pole pickups on the f-hole Tele Thinlines? I think those preceded the single pole models, but maybe not... > http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php I'm going to bridge this reply to another one you may have missed, what are your thoughts on: Man, they can virtualize ANY thing these days! http://www.gizmag.com/virtual-jeff-e...mmy-bar/41249/ The Virtual Jeff is not a mechanical vibrato system, but an electronic one. Players use it like a traditional whammy bar, but digital pitch control is used to massage the output for pitch-perfect, error-free shimmers, dips, dives and squeals. It can be retrofitted to almost any guitar, including acoustics and basses. "As long as it has a pickup (or any kind of analog signal output), you're in business," say its creators. Players could even have several instruments "Jeff-ready" for quick swap-outs from one to another. Details on what makes the Virtual Jeff tick are a bit thin on the ground, but we can tell you that the device is cabled to a floor control box about the size of a stomp. Signals from pickups on a host guitar are registered, combined with data from the whammy bar unit, and everything is run through a digital processor and then the digitally whammified sound is output – all in real time. "Virtual Jeff is a 'high precision' pitch controller," Peter Walker of Fomofx told Gizmag. "This, at first, seems technically trivial, but a simple analysis of what 'high precision' means in this context shows that it's quite a challenge. |
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> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php > Forgot to include my comments on these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU Very clean but a definite jangley sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls Just super bright and even a tad trashy? A fascinating pickup. I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for certain songs. |
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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php > > > Forgot to include my comments on these: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU > > Very clean but a definite jangley sound. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls > > Just super bright and even a tad trashy? > > A fascinating pickup. > > I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for > certain songs. It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. |
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On 1/11/2016 6:47 AM, cibola de oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: >> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 9:31:43 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:39:41 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>> On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: >>>>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do >>>>>>>>>>>> oro >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never >>>>>>>>>>>>>> had the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A sound appraisal. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great >>>>>>>>>>>>> music. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people >>>>>>>>>>>> around you >>>>>>>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar >>>>>>>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and >>>>>>>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a >>>>>>>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Under many radars: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar >>>>>>>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our >>>>>>>>>>>> history with >>>>>>>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeppers. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've >>>>>>>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic >>>>>>>>>>>> Telecaster. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I had a feeling you might. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - >>>>>>>>>> as long >>>>>>>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. >>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 >>>>>>>> tubes, >>>>>>>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a >>>>>>>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a >>>>>>>> Telecaster >>>>>>>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as >>>>>>>> all shit! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge >>>>>>> (most >>>>>>> folks >>>>>>> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little >>>>>>> extra >>>>>>> work >>>>>>> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the >>>>>>> bridge >>>>>>> cover >>>>>>> is so, so pretty. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure >>>>>>> that real >>>>>>> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song >>>>>>> hack >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and >>>>>>> in 1st >>>>>>> position the neck feels really nice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it >>>>>>> would make >>>>>>> the guitar even prettier. Like this one. >>>>>>> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. >>>>>>> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --Bryan >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a >>>>>> lot of >>>>>> sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area >>>>>> of an >>>>>> other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup. >>>>>> This was >>>>>> a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some >>>>>> electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be >>>>>> noisy >>>>>> from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the >>>>>> lap >>>>>> steel player's picking hand. >>>>> >>>>> But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after >>>>> market now? >>>> >>>> A lot of the Telecasters sold these days still have pickups with a >>>> design Fender developed in the 40's. >>> >>> True day - the reissue market is strong. >>> >>>> The pickups introduced by Gibson in 1957 were quieter, more fuller >>>> sounding, and stronger. >>> >>> Far more, yes. >>> >>>> The Gibson humbucker defined the sound of late 60's and 70's rock >>>> but I wanted a guitar to sound more like the Beatles and less like >>>> the Stones. >>>> >>> >>> So you wanted a Rickenbacker! >>> >>> Who didn't? >>> >>>>> Well.... >>>>> >>>>> http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> Those sound pretty good. Less tweet and more balls. They would be a >>>> good choice on a Tele - I think. >>> >>> I think so too, the spectrum of choices is so broad now! >>> >>> Consider: >>> >>> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/...nd-tele-bridge >>> >>> or... >>> >>> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/little-59-tele >>> >>> hmmm.... >> >> The sky's the limit as to pickups for Teles. Alumitones might work, >> although I don't think they make those for a conventional bridge >> install. I have used them on an archtop guitar but that extended tonal >> range is not something that I want on an archtop - on a Tele, however... > > Fair point, to much tonal range on an archtop will lead to unpleasant > harmonics, iirc. > > I wonder of that's why Fender chose not to use single pole pickups on > the f-hole Tele Thinlines? > > I think those preceded the single pole models, but maybe not... > The way I remember it was the Fender wanted their guitars to sound more like Gibsons so in the 70's, they made Telecasters with humbucking pickups. It was a good way to increase the appeal of their guitars. I had a Gibson Firebird during the 70's. It was a big ugly green guitar with a harsh, unpleasant, voice. It didn't suit me but it would fit in well with a young bluesman with an aggressive attack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPBtZSnagsA >> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php > > > I'm going to bridge this reply to another one you may have missed, what > are your thoughts on: > > Man, they can virtualize ANY thing these days! > > http://www.gizmag.com/virtual-jeff-e...mmy-bar/41249/ > > The Virtual Jeff is not a mechanical vibrato system, but an electronic > one. Players use it like a traditional whammy bar, but digital pitch > control is used to massage the output for pitch-perfect, error-free > shimmers, dips, dives and squeals. It can be retrofitted to almost any > guitar, including acoustics and basses. "As long as it has a pickup (or > any kind of analog signal output), you're in business," say its > creators. Players could even have several instruments "Jeff-ready" for > quick swap-outs from one to another. > > Details on what makes the Virtual Jeff tick are a bit thin on the > ground, but we can tell you that the device is cabled to a floor control > box about the size of a stomp. Signals from pickups on a host guitar are > registered, combined with data from the whammy bar unit, and everything > is run through a digital processor and then the digitally whammified > sound is output – all in real time. > > "Virtual Jeff is a 'high precision' pitch controller," Peter Walker of > Fomofx told Gizmag. "This, at first, seems technically trivial, but a > simple analysis of what 'high precision' means in this context shows > that it's quite a challenge. > It sounds like a modulator wheels on synths. That's not a bad thing but they should hook up that a guitar manufacturer that will build in the unit and the digital/analog converters into their guitar. |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >> >>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php >>> >> Forgot to include my comments on these: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU >> >> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls >> >> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? >> >> A fascinating pickup. >> >> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for >> certain songs. > > It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. Yes, agreed. > The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. Pretty cool! > They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend to pick up archives, remnant sounds. > As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On 1/11/2016 6:47 AM, cibola de oro wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 9:31:43 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:39:41 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>> On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote: >>>>>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do >>>>>>>>>>> oro >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do >>>>>>>>>>>>> oro >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A sound appraisal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great >>>>>>>>>>>>>> music. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people >>>>>>>>>>>>> around you >>>>>>>>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my >>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar >>>>>>>>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and >>>>>>>>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a >>>>>>>>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under many radars: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar >>>>>>>>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our >>>>>>>>>>>>> history with >>>>>>>>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeppers. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've >>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic >>>>>>>>>>>>> Telecaster. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I had a feeling you might. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to - >>>>>>>>>>> as long >>>>>>>>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation. >>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7 >>>>>>>>> tubes, >>>>>>>>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around >>>>>>>>> $140 a >>>>>>>>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a >>>>>>>>> Telecaster >>>>>>>>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as >>>>>>>>> all shit! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge >>>>>>>> (most >>>>>>>> folks >>>>>>>> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little >>>>>>>> extra >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the >>>>>>>> bridge >>>>>>>> cover >>>>>>>> is so, so pretty. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure >>>>>>>> that real >>>>>>>> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song >>>>>>>> hack >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> in 1st >>>>>>>> position the neck feels really nice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it >>>>>>>> would make >>>>>>>> the guitar even prettier. Like this one. >>>>>>>> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters. >>>>>>>> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --Bryan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a >>>>>>> lot of >>>>>>> sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area >>>>>>> of an >>>>>>> other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup. >>>>>>> This was >>>>>>> a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some >>>>>>> electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be >>>>>>> noisy >>>>>>> from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the >>>>>>> lap >>>>>>> steel player's picking hand. >>>>>> >>>>>> But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after >>>>>> market now? >>>>> >>>>> A lot of the Telecasters sold these days still have pickups with a >>>>> design Fender developed in the 40's. >>>> >>>> True day - the reissue market is strong. >>>> >>>>> The pickups introduced by Gibson in 1957 were quieter, more fuller >>>>> sounding, and stronger. >>>> >>>> Far more, yes. >>>> >>>>> The Gibson humbucker defined the sound of late 60's and 70's rock >>>>> but I wanted a guitar to sound more like the Beatles and less like >>>>> the Stones. >>>>> >>>> >>>> So you wanted a Rickenbacker! >>>> >>>> Who didn't? >>>> >>>>>> Well.... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Those sound pretty good. Less tweet and more balls. They would be a >>>>> good choice on a Tele - I think. >>>> >>>> I think so too, the spectrum of choices is so broad now! >>>> >>>> Consider: >>>> >>>> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/...nd-tele-bridge >>>> >>>> or... >>>> >>>> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/little-59-tele >>>> >>>> hmmm.... >>> >>> The sky's the limit as to pickups for Teles. Alumitones might work, >>> although I don't think they make those for a conventional bridge >>> install. I have used them on an archtop guitar but that extended tonal >>> range is not something that I want on an archtop - on a Tele, however... >> >> Fair point, to much tonal range on an archtop will lead to unpleasant >> harmonics, iirc. >> >> I wonder of that's why Fender chose not to use single pole pickups on >> the f-hole Tele Thinlines? >> >> I think those preceded the single pole models, but maybe not... >> > > The way I remember it was the Fender wanted their guitars to sound more > like Gibsons so in the 70's, they made Telecasters with humbucking > pickups. It was a good way to increase the appeal of their guitars. Yes, a great many came from Japan, iirc. > I had a Gibson Firebird during the 70's. It was a big ugly green guitar > with a harsh, unpleasant, voice. It didn't suit me but it would fit in > well with a young bluesman with an aggressive attack. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPBtZSnagsA Like a Johnny winter style, true. This guy is familiar to me, have you shared a link with him before? Hilarious, but has chops too. >>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php >> >> >> I'm going to bridge this reply to another one you may have missed, what >> are your thoughts on: >> >> Man, they can virtualize ANY thing these days! >> >> http://www.gizmag.com/virtual-jeff-e...mmy-bar/41249/ >> >> The Virtual Jeff is not a mechanical vibrato system, but an electronic >> one. Players use it like a traditional whammy bar, but digital pitch >> control is used to massage the output for pitch-perfect, error-free >> shimmers, dips, dives and squeals. It can be retrofitted to almost any >> guitar, including acoustics and basses. "As long as it has a pickup (or >> any kind of analog signal output), you're in business," say its >> creators. Players could even have several instruments "Jeff-ready" for >> quick swap-outs from one to another. >> >> Details on what makes the Virtual Jeff tick are a bit thin on the >> ground, but we can tell you that the device is cabled to a floor control >> box about the size of a stomp. Signals from pickups on a host guitar are >> registered, combined with data from the whammy bar unit, and everything >> is run through a digital processor and then the digitally whammified >> sound is output – all in real time. >> >> "Virtual Jeff is a 'high precision' pitch controller," Peter Walker of >> Fomofx told Gizmag. "This, at first, seems technically trivial, but a >> simple analysis of what 'high precision' means in this context shows >> that it's quite a challenge. >> > > It sounds like a modulator wheels on synths. That's not a bad thing but > they should hook up that a guitar manufacturer that will build in the > unit and the digital/analog converters into their guitar. 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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: > >> dsi1 wrote: > >> > >>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php > >>> > >> Forgot to include my comments on these: > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU > >> > >> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls > >> > >> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? > >> > >> A fascinating pickup. > >> > >> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for > >> certain songs. > > > > It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. > > Yes, agreed. > > > The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. > > Pretty cool! > > > They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. > > I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend > to pick up archives, remnant sounds. > > > As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. > > What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? I have not played Lace Sensors but from what I have heard, it's an extended range pickup and a lot of players think it sounds "thin" and the output ain't that hot. The good part is that it's a quiet pickup. The truth is that I don't play much electric guitar these days - but I'd like to. If I built a Tele-style guitar, I'd just stick in a couple of Alumitones and monkey with the tone capacitor and volume control pot. It's not going to sound like my Strat but that would be a good thing. |
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dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: > > >> dsi1 wrote: > > >> > > >>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php > > >>> > > >> Forgot to include my comments on these: > > >> > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU > > >> > > >> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. > > >> > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls > > >> > > >> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? > > >> > > >> A fascinating pickup. > > >> > > >> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for > > >> certain songs. > > > > > > It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. > > > > Yes, agreed. > > > > > The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. > > > > Pretty cool! > > > > > They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. > > > > I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend > > to pick up archives, remnant sounds. > > > > > As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. > > > > What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? > > I have not played Lace Sensors but from what I have heard, it's an extended range pickup and a lot of players think it sounds "thin" and the output ain't that hot. The good part is that it's a quiet pickup. > > The truth is that I don't play much electric guitar these days - but I'd like to. If I built a Tele-style guitar, I'd just stick in a couple of Alumitones and monkey with the tone capacitor and volume control pot. It's not going to sound like my Strat but that would be a good thing. Bottom line with all this technical electric stuff....a good guitarist can make *any* guitar sound good. All this tech talk sounds like a bunch of bs from half-ass musicians to me. |
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On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 11:28:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: > > > >> dsi1 wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php > > > >>> > > > >> Forgot to include my comments on these: > > > >> > > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU > > > >> > > > >> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. > > > >> > > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls > > > >> > > > >> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? > > > >> > > > >> A fascinating pickup. > > > >> > > > >> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for > > > >> certain songs. > > > > > > > > It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. > > > > > > Yes, agreed. > > > > > > > The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output.. > > > > > > Pretty cool! > > > > > > > They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. > > > > > > I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend > > > to pick up archives, remnant sounds. > > > > > > > As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. > > > > > > What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? > > > > I have not played Lace Sensors but from what I have heard, it's an extended range pickup and a lot of players think it sounds "thin" and the output ain't that hot. The good part is that it's a quiet pickup. > > > > The truth is that I don't play much electric guitar these days - but I'd like to. If I built a Tele-style guitar, I'd just stick in a couple of Alumitones and monkey with the tone capacitor and volume control pot. It's not going to sound like my Strat but that would be a good thing. > > Bottom line with all this technical electric stuff....a good guitarist > can make *any* guitar sound good. All this tech talk sounds like a > bunch of bs from half-ass musicians to me. You idiot - where would musicians be without technicians? I never said I was a musician anyway. OTOH, I agree that a good guitarist can transcend the instrument. I don't listen to guitars, I always listen to the player. OTOH, I want my guitars to be the best that I can make it. |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php >>>>> >>>> Forgot to include my comments on these: >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU >>>> >>>> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls >>>> >>>> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? >>>> >>>> A fascinating pickup. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for >>>> certain songs. >>> >>> It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. >> >> Yes, agreed. >> >>> The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. >> >> Pretty cool! >> >>> They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. >> >> I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend >> to pick up archives, remnant sounds. >> >>> As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. >> >> What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? > > I have not played Lace Sensors but from what I have heard, it's an extended range pickup and a lot of players think it sounds "thin" and the output ain't that hot. The good part is that it's a quiet pickup. It certainly is the quietest I have seen, yes. Stacked to humbuck they offer a lot of tapping phase variance. http://www.guitarcenter.com/Lace/Sen...74115044202.gc The Lace Sensor Red-Red Dually is a humbucker pickup constructed from 2 Sensor Red single coil pickups for guitar tone without hum. Lace Red Sensor pickups have a unique radiant Field Barrier system that surrounds both the coil and magnets, reducing annoying 60-cycle hum. The patented Lace Micro Combs replace traditional bobbins, yielding a wider tonal range and better string balance than traditional pickups. Unlike ordinary pickups, it generates 36 separate magnetic "sensing" fields that, in the areas where they contact the string, "read" the strings' vibration. (Regular guitar pickups only generate anywhere from 4 to 12 fields). The Lace Sensor guitar pickup also has Radiant Field Barriers: metal slides that frame the inner core of the Sensors and perform two functions. The first is to shield the Sensor from the outside noise and 60-cycle hum. The second is to produce broader, yet more concentrated, umbrellas of sensing field than standard magnetic pickups. Less Noise, More Harmonics As compared to standard pickups, the Lace pickup reads a greater physical area of the string, while picking up less outside interference. This makes the signal-to-noise ratio nothing short of phenomenal for a single coil system. Also, a wider range of harmonic content is read by the Sensor, delivering a more complex tonal response. > The truth is that I don't play much electric guitar these days - but I'd like to. If I built a Tele-style guitar, I'd just stick in a couple of Alumitones and monkey with the tone capacitor and volume control pot. It's not going to sound like my Strat but that would be a good thing. I get you on the alumitones, but adding a lace humbucker could give it some real tonal flexibility. But maybe you'll use: http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_humbucker.php The Next generation in Humbucker Pickups for Electric Guitar... The first totally modern electric guitar pickup of this century. Huge top and bottom end. Huge passive design. Noise-free design |
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Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: >> >> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php >>>>>> >>>>> Forgot to include my comments on these: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU >>>>> >>>>> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls >>>>> >>>>> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? >>>>> >>>>> A fascinating pickup. >>>>> >>>>> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for >>>>> certain songs. >>>> >>>> It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. >>> >>> Yes, agreed. >>> >>>> The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. >>> >>> Pretty cool! >>> >>>> They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. >>> >>> I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend >>> to pick up archives, remnant sounds. >>> >>>> As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. >>> >>> What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? >> >> I have not played Lace Sensors but from what I have heard, it's an extended range pickup and a lot of players think it sounds "thin" and the output ain't that hot. The good part is that it's a quiet pickup. >> >> The truth is that I don't play much electric guitar these days - but I'd like to. If I built a Tele-style guitar, I'd just stick in a couple of Alumitones and monkey with the tone capacitor and volume control pot. It's not going to sound like my Strat but that would be a good thing. > > Bottom line with all this technical electric stuff....a good guitarist > can make *any* guitar sound good. All this tech talk sounds like a > bunch of bs from half-ass musicians to me. > You never watched the Brian May setup video, did you? |
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> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 11:28:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php >>>>>>> >>>>>> Forgot to include my comments on these: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU >>>>>> >>>>>> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls >>>>>> >>>>>> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? >>>>>> >>>>>> A fascinating pickup. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for >>>>>> certain songs. >>>>> >>>>> It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. >>>> >>>> Yes, agreed. >>>> >>>>> The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. >>>> >>>> Pretty cool! >>>> >>>>> They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. >>>> >>>> I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend >>>> to pick up archives, remnant sounds. >>>> >>>>> As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. >>>> >>>> What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? >>> >>> I have not played Lace Sensors but from what I have heard, it's an extended range pickup and a lot of players think it sounds "thin" and the output ain't that hot. The good part is that it's a quiet pickup. >>> >>> The truth is that I don't play much electric guitar these days - but I'd like to. If I built a Tele-style guitar, I'd just stick in a couple of Alumitones and monkey with the tone capacitor and volume control pot. It's not going to sound like my Strat but that would be a good thing. >> >> Bottom line with all this technical electric stuff....a good guitarist >> can make *any* guitar sound good. All this tech talk sounds like a >> bunch of bs from half-ass musicians to me. > > You idiot - where would musicians be without technicians? I never said I was a musician anyway. OTOH, I agree that a good guitarist can transcend the instrument. I don't listen to guitars, I always listen to the player. OTOH, I want my guitars to be the best that I can make it. > +1! |
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On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: > >> dsi1 wrote: > >>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: > >>>> dsi1 wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php > >>>>> > >>>> Forgot to include my comments on these: > >>>> > >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU > >>>> > >>>> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. > >>>> > >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls > >>>> > >>>> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? > >>>> > >>>> A fascinating pickup. > >>>> > >>>> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for > >>>> certain songs. > >>> > >>> It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. > >> > >> Yes, agreed. > >> > >>> The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. > >> > >> Pretty cool! > >> > >>> They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. > >> > >> I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend > >> to pick up archives, remnant sounds. > >> > >>> As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. > >> > >> What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? > > > > I have not played Lace Sensors but from what I have heard, it's an extended range pickup and a lot of players think it sounds "thin" and the output ain't that hot. The good part is that it's a quiet pickup. > > > It certainly is the quietest I have seen, yes. > > Stacked to humbuck they offer a lot of tapping phase variance. > > http://www.guitarcenter.com/Lace/Sen...74115044202.gc > > The Lace Sensor Red-Red Dually is a humbucker pickup constructed from 2 > Sensor Red single coil pickups for guitar tone without hum. > > Lace Red Sensor pickups have a unique radiant Field Barrier system that > surrounds both the coil and magnets, reducing annoying 60-cycle hum. The > patented Lace Micro Combs replace traditional bobbins, yielding a wider > tonal range and better string balance than traditional pickups. > > Unlike ordinary pickups, it generates 36 separate magnetic "sensing" > fields that, in the areas where they contact the string, "read" the > strings' vibration. (Regular guitar pickups only generate anywhere from > 4 to 12 fields). > > The Lace Sensor guitar pickup also has Radiant Field Barriers: metal > slides that frame the inner core of the Sensors and perform two > functions. The first is to shield the Sensor from the outside noise and > 60-cycle hum. The second is to produce broader, yet more concentrated, > umbrellas of sensing field than standard magnetic pickups. > > Less Noise, More Harmonics > As compared to standard pickups, the Lace pickup reads a greater > physical area of the string, while picking up less outside interference. > This makes the signal-to-noise ratio nothing short of phenomenal for a > single coil system. Also, a wider range of harmonic content is read by > the Sensor, delivering a more complex tonal response. > > > The truth is that I don't play much electric guitar these days - but I'd like to. If I built a Tele-style guitar, I'd just stick in a couple of Alumitones and monkey with the tone capacitor and volume control pot. It's not going to sound like my Strat but that would be a good thing. > > I get you on the alumitones, but adding a lace humbucker could give it > some real tonal flexibility. > > But maybe you'll use: > > http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_humbucker.php > > The Next generation in Humbucker Pickups for Electric Guitar... The > first totally modern electric guitar pickup of this century. > > Huge top and bottom end. > Huge passive design. > Noise-free design Now you got my head spinning - too many choices. When it comes down to the wire, I'll know what to do. Maybe I'll stick in a pair of these. They currently reside in a 80's Takamine GX-100 guitar but they would be mind-blowing in an old-school Tele. https://www.tfoa.eu/images/products/...g-pickup-3.jpg |
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> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:53:06 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote: >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php >>>>>>> >>>>>> Forgot to include my comments on these: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHE9sL1IfU >>>>>> >>>>>> Very clean but a definite jangley sound. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeBClnTls >>>>>> >>>>>> Just super bright and even a tad trashy? >>>>>> >>>>>> A fascinating pickup. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wouldn't do an entire axe, but I can see using one as a go to for >>>>>> certain songs. >>>>> >>>>> It didn't suit my archtop because an archtop guitar should have a particular sound to them. As it goes, I don't want a wide range of tones on an archtop. It's actually a bit of a muddy, dark, sound. >>>> >>>> Yes, agreed. >>>> >>>>> The Alumitones are the most radical design in magnetic electric guitar pickup in the history of magnetic electric guitar pickups. Theoretically, they are the holy grail of magnetic pickups - low impedance, high output. >>>> >>>> Pretty cool! >>>> >>>>> They do this by inducing current flow through a chunk of aluminum instead of coils of wire. They then use a small coil of wire as a secondary transformer winding for the output. This results in a very quiet, extended frequency range, pickup that is not going to get microphonic with age as pickups coils of wires can. >>>> >>>> I like that term. "microphonic" and you're right, as they age they tend >>>> to pick up archives, remnant sounds. >>>> >>>>> As it goes, most guitarists prefer their guitars to have pickups designed 50 - 60 years ago and the Alumitones are holy grails that was kind of a bomb in the marketplace. My guess is that it's going to take a little while longer before guitarists move into the modern age. >>>> >>>> What are your thoughts on the Fender lace sensors? >>> >>> I have not played Lace Sensors but from what I have heard, it's an extended range pickup and a lot of players think it sounds "thin" and the output ain't that hot. The good part is that it's a quiet pickup. >> >> >> It certainly is the quietest I have seen, yes. >> >> Stacked to humbuck they offer a lot of tapping phase variance. >> >> http://www.guitarcenter.com/Lace/Sen...74115044202.gc >> >> The Lace Sensor Red-Red Dually is a humbucker pickup constructed from 2 >> Sensor Red single coil pickups for guitar tone without hum. >> >> Lace Red Sensor pickups have a unique radiant Field Barrier system that >> surrounds both the coil and magnets, reducing annoying 60-cycle hum. The >> patented Lace Micro Combs replace traditional bobbins, yielding a wider >> tonal range and better string balance than traditional pickups. >> >> Unlike ordinary pickups, it generates 36 separate magnetic "sensing" >> fields that, in the areas where they contact the string, "read" the >> strings' vibration. (Regular guitar pickups only generate anywhere from >> 4 to 12 fields). >> >> The Lace Sensor guitar pickup also has Radiant Field Barriers: metal >> slides that frame the inner core of the Sensors and perform two >> functions. The first is to shield the Sensor from the outside noise and >> 60-cycle hum. The second is to produce broader, yet more concentrated, >> umbrellas of sensing field than standard magnetic pickups. >> >> Less Noise, More Harmonics >> As compared to standard pickups, the Lace pickup reads a greater >> physical area of the string, while picking up less outside interference. >> This makes the signal-to-noise ratio nothing short of phenomenal for a >> single coil system. Also, a wider range of harmonic content is read by >> the Sensor, delivering a more complex tonal response. >> >>> The truth is that I don't play much electric guitar these days - but I'd like to. If I built a Tele-style guitar, I'd just stick in a couple of Alumitones and monkey with the tone capacitor and volume control pot. It's not going to sound like my Strat but that would be a good thing. >> >> I get you on the alumitones, but adding a lace humbucker could give it >> some real tonal flexibility. >> >> But maybe you'll use: >> >> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_humbucker.php >> >> The Next generation in Humbucker Pickups for Electric Guitar... The >> first totally modern electric guitar pickup of this century. >> >> Huge top and bottom end. >> Huge passive design. >> Noise-free design > > Now you got my head spinning - too many choices. Sorry. > When it comes down to the wire, I'll know what to do. Maybe I'll stick in a pair of these. They currently reside in a 80's Takamine GX-100 guitar but they would be mind-blowing in an old-school Tele. > > https://www.tfoa.eu/images/products/...g-pickup-3.jpg > Oh wow, are those out of a Flying V? The Takamine is like the old Explorer! |
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