tert in Pyongyand aka DEAR LEADER wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:34:13 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
> >
> >> Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >>> reversing evolution. Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved
> >>> greatly since Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense
> >>
> >> I don't know about other stuff, but if you want to get scientific, the
> >> human digestive system clearly puts us in the frugivore category, just
> >> the same as most other primates
> >>
> >> there is a theory that our brains became larger as a result of cooking
> >> food and greater availability of glucose (less work chewing, more work
> >> thinking)
> >>
> >> but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards
> >
> > And you're wrong on both counts. Our digestive system, starting in
> > the mouth changed significantly once we started cooking food. We are
> > clearly not frugivores. You've been reading too many raw/vegetarian
> > kook sites.
> >
> > -sw
>
> I posted this before -- here's yer kook website

HERE's yer k00k website, tert:


"It is due right of the DPRK to cope with the moves of the U.S., chieftain of aggression, to start a nuclear war against the Korean nation.

High-handed and arbitrary practices can never work on the DPRK.

It is as foolish an act as wishing to see the sky fall to demand the DPRK scrap its nuclear program and halt its development, unless the U.S. rolls back its outrageous hostile policy toward the DPRK and imperialist aggression forces give up their infringement upon sovereignty by use of force in the international arena.

The DPRK is proud of having access to H-bomb of justice.

The world progressives are shouting hurrah while the hostile forces are making screams..."

--
Best
Greg

Sqwertz wrote:
> food became softer.
>
> -sw

You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
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fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:34:13 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> reversing evolution. Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved
>>>>> greatly since Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense
>>>>
>>>> I don't know about other stuff, but if you want to get scientific, the
>>>> human digestive system clearly puts us in the frugivore category, just
>>>> the same as most other primates
>>>>
>>>> there is a theory that our brains became larger as a result of cooking
>>>> food and greater availability of glucose (less work chewing, more work
>>>> thinking)
>>>>
>>>> but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards
>>>
>>> And you're wrong on both counts. Our digestive system, starting in
>>> the mouth changed significantly once we started cooking food. We are
>>> clearly not frugivores. You've been reading too many raw/vegetarian
>>> kook sites.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> I posted this before -- here's yer kook website
>>
>> "In other words, there is very little evidence that our guts are terribly
>> special and the job of a generalist primate gut is primarily to eat
>> pieces of plants."
>>
>> <http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/>
>>
>> He does come right out and say that our digestive system *did* evolve
>> with agriculture and processing (fermenting and cooking) of food, but
>> not anatomically -- which is what I meant by teeth and innards -- but
>> physiologically, with upregulation of amylase and persistence of lactase
>> into adulthood.
>
> The human digestive became *physically* shorter with the introduction
> of cooked meat and plants that were easier to digest. Our jaws and
> teeth became smaller and weaker because food became softer.
>
> -sw

you mean "humanoid" digestive ...tract?

clearly we don't frequent the same kook websites

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> tert in Pyongyand aka DEAR LEADER wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>> > On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:34:13 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sqwertz wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> reversing evolution. Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved
>> >>> greatly since Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense
>> >>
>> >> I don't know about other stuff, but if you want to get scientific, the
>> >> human digestive system clearly puts us in the frugivore category, just
>> >> the same as most other primates
>> >>
>> >> there is a theory that our brains became larger as a result of cooking
>> >> food and greater availability of glucose (less work chewing, more work
>> >> thinking)
>> >>
>> >> but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards
>> >
>> > And you're wrong on both counts. Our digestive system, starting in
>> > the mouth changed significantly once we started cooking food. We are
>> > clearly not frugivores. You've been reading too many raw/vegetarian
>> > kook sites.
>> >
>> > -sw
>>
>> I posted this before -- here's yer kook website
>
> HERE's yer k00k website, tert:
>
>
> "It is due right of the DPRK to cope with the moves of the U.S., chieftain of aggression, to start a nuclear war against the Korean nation.
>
> High-handed and arbitrary practices can never work on the DPRK.
>
> It is as foolish an act as wishing to see the sky fall to demand the DPRK scrap its nuclear program and halt its development, unless the U.S. rolls back its outrageous hostile policy toward the DPRK and imperialist aggression forces give up their infringement upon sovereignty by use of force in the international arena.
>
> The DPRK is proud of having access to H-bomb of justice.
>
> The world progressives are shouting hurrah while the hostile forces are making screams..."


ok

tert in seattle wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:34:13 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> reversing evolution. Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved
>>>>>> greatly since Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about other stuff, but if you want to get scientific, the
>>>>> human digestive system clearly puts us in the frugivore category, just
>>>>> the same as most other primates
>>>>>
>>>>> there is a theory that our brains became larger as a result of cooking
>>>>> food and greater availability of glucose (less work chewing, more work
>>>>> thinking)
>>>>>
>>>>> but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards
>>>>
>>>> And you're wrong on both counts. Our digestive system, starting in
>>>> the mouth changed significantly once we started cooking food. We are
>>>> clearly not frugivores. You've been reading too many raw/vegetarian
>>>> kook sites.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> I posted this before -- here's yer kook website
>>>
>>> "In other words, there is very little evidence that our guts are terribly
>>> special and the job of a generalist primate gut is primarily to eat
>>> pieces of plants."
>>>
>>> <http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/>
>>>
>>> He does come right out and say that our digestive system *did* evolve
>>> with agriculture and processing (fermenting and cooking) of food, but
>>> not anatomically -- which is what I meant by teeth and innards -- but
>>> physiologically, with upregulation of amylase and persistence of lactase
>>> into adulthood.
>>
>> The human digestive became *physically* shorter with the introduction
>> of cooked meat and plants that were easier to digest. Our jaws and
>> teeth became smaller and weaker because food became softer.
>>
>> -sw
>
> you mean

Stop feeding the virus!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 09:00:55 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:

>>> Don Wiss wrote:
>>>> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.

>So if you agree, then why the statement on cooking doing nothing to
>enhance it?
>
>Flavor is always an enhancement, simply not a change of nutritive worth.

I was referring to enhancing nutrition, as that is what this branch of the
thread is about. Wrangham's theory is cooking enhanced the nutrition of
tubers.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Sqwertz wrote:
> You suck at this vegetarian thang.
>
> -sw
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

Sqwertz wrote:
> So now we're talking about tuber steaks?
>
> -sw
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/8/2016 12:01 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Our jaws and
> teeth became smaller and weaker because food became softer.
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/8/2016 4:05 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You suck at this vegetarian thang.
>
> -sw
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/8/2016 4:08 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> <boggle> So now we're talking about tuber steaks?
>
> -sw
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:15:49 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:34:13 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reversing evolution. Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved
>>>>>>> greatly since Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know about other stuff, but if you want to get scientific, the
>>>>>> human digestive system clearly puts us in the frugivore category, just
>>>>>> the same as most other primates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there is a theory that our brains became larger as a result of cooking
>>>>>> food and greater availability of glucose (less work chewing, more work
>>>>>> thinking)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards
>>>>>
>>>>> And you're wrong on both counts. Our digestive system, starting in
>>>>> the mouth changed significantly once we started cooking food. We are
>>>>> clearly not frugivores. You've been reading too many raw/vegetarian
>>>>> kook sites.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>> I posted this before -- here's yer kook website
>>>>
>>>> "In other words, there is very little evidence that our guts are terribly
>>>> special and the job of a generalist primate gut is primarily to eat
>>>> pieces of plants."
>>>>
>>>> <http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/>
>>>>
>>>> He does come right out and say that our digestive system *did* evolve
>>>> with agriculture and processing (fermenting and cooking) of food, but
>>>> not anatomically -- which is what I meant by teeth and innards -- but
>>>> physiologically, with upregulation of amylase and persistence of lactase
>>>> into adulthood.
>>>
>>> The human digestive became *physically* shorter with the introduction
>>> of cooked meat and plants that were easier to digest. Our jaws and
>>> teeth became smaller and weaker because food became softer.
>>
>> you mean "humanoid" digestive ...tract?
>
> The digestive SYSTEM of humans.

well, the digestive system of humans doesn't have a length, really, but
the tract does

and the digestive tract of humans (homo sapiens sapiens) hasn't changed
at all

>> clearly we don't frequent the same kook websites
>
> Here it is, short and sweet for you from the Smithsonian Institute of
> Natural History.
>
> http://humanorigins.si.edu/human-characteristics/bodies
>
> Reason: Meat and cooked foods. You suck at this vegetarian thang.
>
> -sw

relax, Steve - I am not doing a vegetarian thang - you are just paranoid

It helps to see that the Smithsonian is comfortable referring to species
from 6 million years ago as "human". If you want to stick with the 4th
grade version of science, I'm not going to argue. You're right -- there
has been a lot of evolution in "humans" during that time.

Sqwertz wrote:
> So now we're talking about tuber steaks?
>
> -sw
**** off and die, woman-stalker.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sqwertz wrote:
> You suck at this vegetarian thang.
>
> -sw
**** off and die, woman-stalker.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sqwertz wrote:
> smaller and weaker because
**** off and die, woman-stalker.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

tert in seattle wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:15:49 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:34:13 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reversing evolution. Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved
>>>>>>>> greatly since Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know about other stuff, but if you want to get scientific, the
>>>>>>> human digestive system clearly puts us in the frugivore category, just
>>>>>>> the same as most other primates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there is a theory that our brains became larger as a result of cooking
>>>>>>> food and greater availability of glucose (less work chewing, more work
>>>>>>> thinking)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you're wrong on both counts. Our digestive system, starting in
>>>>>> the mouth changed significantly once we started cooking food. We are
>>>>>> clearly not frugivores. You've been reading too many raw/vegetarian
>>>>>> kook sites.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> I posted this before -- here's yer kook website
>>>>>
>>>>> "In other words, there is very little evidence that our guts are terribly
>>>>> special and the job of a generalist primate gut is primarily to eat
>>>>> pieces of plants."
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/>
>>>>>
>>>>> He does come right out and say that our digestive system *did* evolve
>>>>> with agriculture and processing (fermenting and cooking) of food, but
>>>>> not anatomically -- which is what I meant by teeth and innards -- but
>>>>> physiologically, with upregulation of amylase and persistence of lactase
>>>>> into adulthood.
>>>>
>>>> The human digestive became *physically* shorter with the introduction
>>>> of cooked meat and plants that were easier to digest. Our jaws and
>>>> teeth became smaller and weaker because food became softer.
>>>
>>> you mean "humanoid" digestive ...tract?
>>
>> The digestive SYSTEM of humans.
>
> well, the digestive system of humans doesn't have a length, really, but
> the tract does
>
> and the digestive tract of humans (homo sapiens sapiens) hasn't changed
> at all
>
>>> clearly we don't frequent the same kook websites
>>
>> Here it is, short and sweet for you from the Smithsonian Institute of
>> Natural History.
>>
>> http://humanorigins.si.edu/human-characteristics/bodies
>>
>> Reason: Meat and cooked foods. You suck at this vegetarian thang.
>>
>> -sw
>
> relax, Steve - I am not doing a vegetarian thang - you are just paranoid
>

NO...he's a craven woman stalker:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>
> >Don Wiss wrote:
> >> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
> >
> >Flavor man, flavor.
>
> Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty. That is why
> people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless.

I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.

>
> When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
> harder to know when the second side is done.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
>
> Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.

Sqwertz wrote:
> I guess all this attempted nitpicking means you have no other logical
> arguments.
**** off and DIE.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:44:57 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> >
> > >Don Wiss wrote:
> > >> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
> > >
> > >Flavor man, flavor.
> >
> > Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty. That is why
> > people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless..
>
> I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.

I always cook rib roast at 200, but I don't worry about gravy. Perfect
medium-rare meat doesn't need a sauce.

> >
> > When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
> > harder to know when the second side is done.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
> >
> > Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
>
> I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.

What should we call it?

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> >
> > >Don Wiss wrote:
> > >> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
> > >
> > >Flavor man, flavor.
> >
> > Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty. That is why
> > people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless..
>
> I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.
>
> >
> > When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
> > harder to know when the second side is done.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
> >
> > Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
>
> I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.

Roasting at 200 degrees F. .....never heard of such goin's on.
Might as well eat it raw. Where these goofy ideas come from is beyond my ken.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:49:28 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
> > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Don Wiss wrote:
> > > >> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
> > > >
> > > >Flavor man, flavor.
> > >
> > > Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty. That is why
> > > people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless.
> >
> > I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.
> >
> > >
> > > When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
> > > harder to know when the second side is done.
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
> > >
> > > Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
> >
> > I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.
>
> Roasting at 200 degrees F. .....never heard of such goin's on.
> Might as well eat it raw. Where these goofy ideas come from is beyond my ken.
>
> May the parasites and bacteria rule the (h)earth aided and abetted by the new cooks of the twenty first century.

For Pete's sake, Roy, you CAN eat beef raw. Are you bothered by the fact
that rare beef is only about 125 F, even if you cook the roast at 500 F?
At 200 F the outside gets plenty hot enough to kill bacteria. Parasites in
beef are almost unknown in the U.S.

Paranoid much?

What's your preferred steak doneness? Well-done?

Cindy Hamilton

On 1/9/2016 9:49 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don Wiss wrote:
>>>>> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
>>>>
>>>> Flavor man, flavor.
>>>
>>> Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty. That is why
>>> people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless.
>>
>> I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.
>>
>>>
>>> When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
>>> harder to know when the second side is done.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
>>>
>>> Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
>>
>> I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.
>
> Roasting at 200 degrees F. .....never heard of such goin's on.
> Might as well eat it raw. Where these goofy ideas come from is beyond my ken.

My guts tell me that it's gonna the latest trend. It's a goofy idea
alright but so is using a phone as a camera or watch.

>
> May the parasites and bacteria rule the (h)earth aided and abetted by the new cooks of the twenty first century.
> =====
>

In the end, the parasites will always win.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 17:36:23 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:15:49 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:34:13 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> reversing evolution. Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved
>>>>>>>>> greatly since Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know about other stuff, but if you want to get scientific, the
>>>>>>>> human digestive system clearly puts us in the frugivore category, just
>>>>>>>> the same as most other primates
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> there is a theory that our brains became larger as a result of cooking
>>>>>>>> food and greater availability of glucose (less work chewing, more work
>>>>>>>> thinking)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you're wrong on both counts. Our digestive system, starting in
>>>>>>> the mouth changed significantly once we started cooking food. We are
>>>>>>> clearly not frugivores. You've been reading too many raw/vegetarian
>>>>>>> kook sites.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I posted this before -- here's yer kook website
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "In other words, there is very little evidence that our guts are terribly
>>>>>> special and the job of a generalist primate gut is primarily to eat
>>>>>> pieces of plants."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He does come right out and say that our digestive system *did* evolve
>>>>>> with agriculture and processing (fermenting and cooking) of food, but
>>>>>> not anatomically -- which is what I meant by teeth and innards -- but
>>>>>> physiologically, with upregulation of amylase and persistence of lactase
>>>>>> into adulthood.
>>>>>
>>>>> The human digestive became *physically* shorter with the introduction
>>>>> of cooked meat and plants that were easier to digest. Our jaws and
>>>>> teeth became smaller and weaker because food became softer.
>>>>
>>>> you mean "humanoid" digestive ...tract?
>>>
>>> The digestive SYSTEM of humans.
>>
>> well, the digestive system of humans doesn't have a length, really, but
>> the tract does
>
> The tract is part of the digestive system. I said SYSTEM because it
> encompasses the teeth and jaw as well, as that was what we were also
> talking about.
>
>> and the digestive tract of humans (homo sapiens sapiens) hasn't changed
>> at all
>
> "Human" includes all the homos, including you and Gregory. We were
> NEVER referring just to Modern Humans.
>
> I guess all this attempted nitpicking means you have no other logical
> arguments.
>
>> It helps to see that the Smithsonian is comfortable referring to species
>> from 6 million years ago as "human". If you want to stick with the 4th
>> grade version of science, I'm not going to argue.
>
> Exactly how I've been using the word. So now that you've been proven
> wrong, you have to criticize them, too? What is the extent of your
> degree in anthropology, BTW?
>
> -sw

I haven't been proven wrong. You have shown that you like to "win"
arguments. Congratulations.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:59:08 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:49:28 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Don Wiss wrote:
> > > > > >> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Flavor man, flavor.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty. That is why
> > > > > people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless.
> > > >
> > > > I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
> > > > > harder to know when the second side is done.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
> > > > >
> > > > > Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
> > > >
> > > > I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.
> > >
> > > Roasting at 200 degrees F. .....never heard of such goin's on.
> > > Might as well eat it raw. Where these goofy ideas come from is beyond my ken.
> > >
> > > May the parasites and bacteria rule the (h)earth aided and abetted by the new cooks of the twenty first century.
> >
> > For Pete's sake, Roy, you CAN eat beef raw. Are you bothered by the fact
> > that rare beef is only about 125 F, even if you cook the roast at 500 F?
> > At 200 F the outside gets plenty hot enough to kill bacteria. Parasites in
> > beef are almost unknown in the U.S.
> >
> > Paranoid much?
> >
> > What's your preferred steak doneness? Well-done?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> I worked in a packing plant many years ago and I saw the worms, yes little hair-like worms that live inside of beef cattle.
>
> Of course one can eat raw beef but most bacteria will die if the oven temperature
> runs at least 212 degrees F. for 15 minutes or so.

Why is 212 F for 15 minutes magical, but 200 F for three hours isn't?

Cindy Hamilton

On 1/9/2016 11:10 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> So now that you've been proven
> wrong, you have to criticize them, too? W
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

tert in seattle wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 17:36:23 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:15:49 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:34:13 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> reversing evolution. Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved
>>>>>>>>>> greatly since Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know about other stuff, but if you want to get scientific, the
>>>>>>>>> human digestive system clearly puts us in the frugivore category, just
>>>>>>>>> the same as most other primates
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> there is a theory that our brains became larger as a result of cooking
>>>>>>>>> food and greater availability of glucose (less work chewing, more work
>>>>>>>>> thinking)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And you're wrong on both counts. Our digestive system, starting in
>>>>>>>> the mouth changed significantly once we started cooking food. We are
>>>>>>>> clearly not frugivores. You've been reading too many raw/vegetarian
>>>>>>>> kook sites.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I posted this before -- here's yer kook website
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "In other words, there is very little evidence that our guts are terribly
>>>>>>> special and the job of a generalist primate gut is primarily to eat
>>>>>>> pieces of plants."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He does come right out and say that our digestive system *did* evolve
>>>>>>> with agriculture and processing (fermenting and cooking) of food, but
>>>>>>> not anatomically -- which is what I meant by teeth and innards -- but
>>>>>>> physiologically, with upregulation of amylase and persistence of lactase
>>>>>>> into adulthood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The human digestive became *physically* shorter with the introduction
>>>>>> of cooked meat and plants that were easier to digest. Our jaws and
>>>>>> teeth became smaller and weaker because food became softer.
>>>>>
>>>>> you mean "humanoid" digestive ...tract?
>>>>
>>>> The digestive SYSTEM of humans.
>>>
>>> well, the digestive system of humans doesn't have a length, really, but
>>> the tract does
>>
>> The tract is part of the digestive system. I said SYSTEM because it
>> encompasses the teeth and jaw as well, as that was what we were also
>> talking about.
>>
>>> and the digestive tract of humans (homo sapiens sapiens) hasn't changed
>>> at all
>>
>> "Human" includes all the homos, including you and Gregory. We were
>> NEVER referring just to Modern Humans.
>>
>> I guess all this attempted nitpicking means you have no other logical
>> arguments.
>>
>>> It helps to see that the Smithsonian is comfortable referring to species
>>> from 6 million years ago as "human". If you want to stick with the 4th
>>> grade version of science, I'm not going to argue.
>>
>> Exactly how I've been using the word. So now that you've been proven
>> wrong, you have to criticize them, too? What is the extent of your
>> degree in anthropology, BTW?
>>
>> -sw
>
> I haven't been proven wrong. You have shown that you like to "win"
> arguments. Congratulations.
>

**** that woman stalker straight to everlasting HELL!

Tear it's ****ing lips off its bloody fat face!

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 5:48:36 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:59:08 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:49:28 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Don Wiss wrote:
> > > > > > >> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Flavor man, flavor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty. That is why
> > > > > > people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless.
> > > > >
> > > > > I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
> > > > > > harder to know when the second side is done.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.
> > > >
> > > > Roasting at 200 degrees F. .....never heard of such goin's on.
> > > > Might as well eat it raw. Where these goofy ideas come from is beyond my ken.
> > > >
> > > > May the parasites and bacteria rule the (h)earth aided and abetted by the new cooks of the twenty first century.
> > >
> > > For Pete's sake, Roy, you CAN eat beef raw. Are you bothered by the fact
> > > that rare beef is only about 125 F, even if you cook the roast at 500 F?
> > > At 200 F the outside gets plenty hot enough to kill bacteria. Parasites in
> > > beef are almost unknown in the U.S.
> > >
> > > Paranoid much?
> > >
> > > What's your preferred steak doneness? Well-done?
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > I worked in a packing plant many years ago and I saw the worms, yes little hair-like worms that live inside of beef cattle.
> >
> > Of course one can eat raw beef but most bacteria will die if the oven temperature
> > runs at least 212 degrees F. for 15 minutes or so.
>
> Why is 212 F for 15 minutes magical, but 200 F for three hours isn't?
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Google could be your best friend if you would let it be so.
Look up pasteurization and food borne diseases and especially about the dangers in eating raw or rare cuts of meat. Anyone who eats raw or rare ground beef or even roasts is gambling big time.
=====

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 1:24:10 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:

> Google could be your best friend if you would let it be so.
> Look up pasteurization and food borne diseases and especially about the dangers in eating raw or rare cuts of meat. Anyone who eats raw or rare ground beef or even roasts is gambling big time.

Life is filled with gambles. I had sushi for dinner on Friday.

Cindy Hamilton

Sqwertz wrote:
> Yes, you have been proven wrong.
>
> -sw
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:24:10 PM UTC-6, Roy wrote:
> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 5:48:36 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:59:08 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:49:28 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Don Wiss wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Flavor man, flavor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty. That is why
> > > > > > > people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
> > > > > > > harder to know when the second side is done.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roasting at 200 degrees F. .....never heard of such goin's on.
> > > > > Might as well eat it raw. Where these goofy ideas come from is beyond my ken.
> > > > >
> > > > > May the parasites and bacteria rule the (h)earth aided and abetted by the new cooks of the twenty first century.
> > > >
> > > > For Pete's sake, Roy, you CAN eat beef raw. Are you bothered by the fact
> > > > that rare beef is only about 125 F, even if you cook the roast at 500 F?
> > > > At 200 F the outside gets plenty hot enough to kill bacteria. Parasites in
> > > > beef are almost unknown in the U.S.
> > > >
> > > > Paranoid much?
> > > >
> > > > What's your preferred steak doneness? Well-done?
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > I worked in a packing plant many years ago and I saw the worms, yes little hair-like worms that live inside of beef cattle.
> > >
> > > Of course one can eat raw beef but most bacteria will die if the oven temperature
> > > runs at least 212 degrees F. for 15 minutes or so.
> >
> > Why is 212 F for 15 minutes magical, but 200 F for three hours isn't?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Google could be your best friend if you would let it be so.
> Look up pasteurization and food borne diseases and especially about the dangers in eating raw or rare cuts of meat. Anyone who eats raw or rare ground beef or even roasts is gambling big time.
> =====

I've been eating raw and nearly raw beef since I was a teenager, I'm sure
over a thousand times. What was supposed to have happened to me?

--Bryan

MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> What was supposed to have happened to me?
>
> --Bryan

Hell, but not just yet.

MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>
> I've been eating raw and nearly raw beef since I was a teenager, I'm sure
> over a thousand times. What was supposed to have happened to me?

From what google says, eating raw beef for 30+ years will turn you
against your life-long best friends, will turn you hateful and
vindictive to most all people. It can also make you very judgemental
about what other people eat. And in the worst cases, can make you buy
a *** pink motorscooter to drive vs a nice car. There's more but
that's enough for now. ;-D

HTH!

Gary wrote:
> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>
>> I've been eating raw and nearly raw beef since I was a teenager, I'm sure
>> over a thousand times. What was supposed to have happened to me?
>
> From what google says, eating raw beef for 30+ years will turn you
> against your life-long best friends, will turn you hateful and
> vindictive to most all people. It can also make you very judgemental
> about what other people eat. And in the worst cases, can make you buy
> a *** pink motorscooter to drive vs a nice car. There's more but
> that's enough for now. ;-D
>
> HTH!
>

Oh you incorrigible Tartare!

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:30:41 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> >
> > I've been eating raw and nearly raw beef since I was a teenager, I'm sure
> > over a thousand times. What was supposed to have happened to me?
>
> From what google says, eating raw beef for 30+ years will turn you
> against your life-long best friends,

John is a sick ****, and he is the one who picked the fight.

> will turn you hateful and vindictive to most all people.

I'm not hateful and vindictive to *most* people.

> It can also make you very judgemental about what other people eat.

This is a COOKING NG. I'm merely representing standards of decency.

> And in the worst cases, can make you buy
> a *** pink motorscooter to drive vs a nice car.

What is this "***" you are referring to?

> There's more but that's enough for now. ;-D

Oh, do tell.
>
> HTH!

--Bryan

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 9:16:04 AM UTC-7, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:24:10 PM UTC-6, Roy wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 5:48:36 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:59:08 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:49:28 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:27:31 AM UTC-10, Don Wiss wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:33:02 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Don Wiss wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> Meat is edible raw. Cooking does nothing to enhance it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Flavor man, flavor.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, if you get a good Maillard layer it certainly is tasty.. That is why
> > > > > > > > people treasure the pan drippings to make gravy. Gray meat is tasteless.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I roasted a rib roast at 200 degrees last week. It was pretty good but there was no drippings for gravy. I think cooking roasts in a cool oven is going to be a new trend but my recommendation is that you buy yourself some brown gravy mix before you do it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When I pan fry meat I use smell to know when to flip it. Though it is
> > > > > > > > harder to know when the second side is done.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't like that word "Ma****rd." Cooks must think they're chemists now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roasting at 200 degrees F. .....never heard of such goin's on.
> > > > > > Might as well eat it raw. Where these goofy ideas come from is beyond my ken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May the parasites and bacteria rule the (h)earth aided and abetted by the new cooks of the twenty first century.
> > > > >
> > > > > For Pete's sake, Roy, you CAN eat beef raw. Are you bothered by the fact
> > > > > that rare beef is only about 125 F, even if you cook the roast at 500 F?
> > > > > At 200 F the outside gets plenty hot enough to kill bacteria. Parasites in
> > > > > beef are almost unknown in the U.S.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paranoid much?
> > > > >
> > > > > What's your preferred steak doneness? Well-done?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > I worked in a packing plant many years ago and I saw the worms, yes little hair-like worms that live inside of beef cattle.
> > > >
> > > > Of course one can eat raw beef but most bacteria will die if the oven temperature
> > > > runs at least 212 degrees F. for 15 minutes or so.
> > >
> > > Why is 212 F for 15 minutes magical, but 200 F for three hours isn't?
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Google could be your best friend if you would let it be so.
> > Look up pasteurization and food borne diseases and especially about the dangers in eating raw or rare cuts of meat. Anyone who eats raw or rare ground beef or even roasts is gambling big time.
> > =====
>
> I've been eating raw and nearly raw beef since I was a teenager, I'm sure
> over a thousand times. What was supposed to have happened to me?
>
> --Bryan

Other than turning into a "werewolf", I suppose you are symptom free
of anything remotely bad.
Just the luck of the draw...your time IS coming...redeem yourself, cook those burgers, heat them fries.
One never knows when you will be struck down in the prime of life. Have a nice day, IT COULD BE YOUR LAST.
=====

Roy wrote:
>> I've been eating raw and nearly raw beef since I was a teenager, I'm sure
>> >over a thousand times. What was supposed to have happened to me?
>> >
>> >--Bryan
> Other than turning into a "werewolf", I suppose you are symptom free
> of anything remotely bad.
> Just the luck of the draw...your time IS coming...redeem yourself, cook those burgers, heat them fries.
> One never knows when you will be struck down in the prime of life. Have a nice day, IT COULD BE YOUR LAST.
> =====


A prayer for the dying, Roy?

How droll, lol...

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:45:09 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> I haven't been proven wrong. You have shown that you like to "win"
>> arguments. Congratulations.
>
> "but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards".
>
> Yes, you have been proven wrong.
>
> -sw

it's not so simple....

<http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160111-what-is-it-that-makes-you-a-human-and-not-something-else>

On 1/10/2016 9:18 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Yes, you have been proven wrong.
>
> -sw

Your woman abuse is as grotesque, unprovoked, and ugly as anything
anyone in this medium has ever done.

You are a pathological woman-hater and a deeply disturbed and wounded
little man:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw


"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw


"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.

-sw

You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
written down the once you realized you liked it.

-sw

Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
spite.

-sw

Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.

[High Five]

-sw

Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.

-sw

You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.

-sw

You tell him Julie!

<snort>

-sw

That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
explain why the proposed solution won't work.

Same 'ol song and dance.

-sw

<snip rest unread>

-sw

So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
have been your direct experience with the New York public school
system in the early 2000's?

-sw

What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
world.

-sw


Again, only in YOUR house.

-sw

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:27:24 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:45:09 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't been proven wrong. You have shown that you like to "win"
>>>> arguments. Congratulations.
>>>
>>> "but our teeth haven't changed much and neither have our innards".
>>>
>>> Yes, you have been proven wrong.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> it's not so simple....
>>
>> <http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160111-what-is-it-that-makes-you-a-human-and-not-something-else>
>
> Listen, Terd(*). You're trying to redefine the word "human" now in
> attempt to backpeddle. When you jumped into this argument and made
> that statement above it was in response to what I said:
>
> "Our bodies (and digestive systems) have evolved greatly since
> Paleolithic times so it certainly doesn't make sense"
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> And that's when you claimed otherwise. Now you're trying to play the
> "Modern Human" card and that's all just a bunch of smoke and mirrors.
>
> (*) I haven't called you that in at least 5 years.
>
> -sw

Well that is an interesting account. I wonder who is smoking and hiding
behind mirrors -- the one who snipped it all and then summarized it to
his liking, or the one who didn't?

Well, I have nothing to hide. I am not trying to redefine the word "human",
I'm showing (like I said) that it's not as simple as your 4th-grade
science teacher would have described it.

Is this a human?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4111/4...fffd2ea1_z.jpg

Sqwertz wrote:
> I didn't snip shit,


Why are you still drawing breath?


Your woman abuse is as grotesque, unprovoked, and ugly as anything
anyone in this medium has ever done.

You are a pathological woman-hater and a deeply disturbed and wounded
little man

**** you and drop damned dead:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw


"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw


"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.

-sw

You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
written down the once you realized you liked it.

-sw

Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
spite.

-sw

Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.

[High Five]

-sw

Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.

-sw

You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.

-sw

You tell him Julie!

<snort>

-sw

That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
explain why the proposed solution won't work.

Same 'ol song and dance.

-sw

<snip rest unread>

-sw

So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
have been your direct experience with the New York public school
system in the early 2000's?

-sw

What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
world.

-sw


Again, only in YOUR house.

-sw

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