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On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 10:57:01 AM UTC-7, cibola de oro wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 20:42:00 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can't remember the brand name of the pasta....
> >>> Wish I could remember where I bought that pasta.
> >>
> >> You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
> >> written down the once you realized you liked it. Certainly the box
> >> was still available to examine. Once you know the brand name it would
> >> be fairly easy to find again.

> >
> > I didn't though. I was in a hurry and tossed the box.

>
>
> Julie!
>
> You're seeking ABUSE again from your stalker!
>
> Stop being such a masochist, it's VERY unhealthy for you!
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
> "OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
> Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
> entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
> baby carrots".
>
> -sw
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Its called "being a brute for punishment", and its quite common for those who are bullied
or have been bullied most of their lives...Its a learned behavior.
Roll with the punches.
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On 1/9/2016 10:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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>
> This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/26/news...***/index.html
>
> Plus it's a may contain eggs.


He has an opinion for advertising, he did not say he was against gays.
People from his generation are traditionalists about things like that.
I'm not going to put people in the Ames Iowa plant out of work for it,
they needs jobs too.
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Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 10:57:01 AM UTC-7, cibola de oro wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 20:42:00 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember the brand name of the pasta....
>>>>> Wish I could remember where I bought that pasta.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
>>>> written down the once you realized you liked it. Certainly the box
>>>> was still available to examine. Once you know the brand name it would
>>>> be fairly easy to find again.
>>>
>>> I didn't though. I was in a hurry and tossed the box.

>>
>>
>> Julie!
>>
>> You're seeking ABUSE again from your stalker!
>>
>> Stop being such a masochist, it's VERY unhealthy for you!
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
>> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>>
>> -sw
>>
>> "OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
>> Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
>> entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
>> baby carrots".
>>
>> -sw
>>
>> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>>
>> -sw
>>
>> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
>> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
>> off-topic subjects.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>
> Its called "being a brute for punishment", and its quite common for those who are bullied
> or have been bullied most of their lives...Its a learned behavior.
> Roll with the punches.
> ====
>



Your analysis is of course accurate, widespread in nature, and totally
depressing.

How sad to see her feed him to abuse her.

Ugh.

It makes this place so unclean.
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On 10/1/2016 14:39 Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:18:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > Barilla whole grain pasta used to be 51% whole grain but is 100% now
>>> > and
>>> > tastes about the same as before.
>>>
>>> I won't buy that brand, for many reasons.

>>
>> It's one of the best on the market.

>
> This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/26/news...***/index.html


I agree. For some troglodytes in this ng it's probably a reason to buy
the brand.

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On 10/1/2016 16:01 Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 1/9/2016 10:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>

>
>>
>> This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>>
>> http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/26/news...***/index.html
>>
>> Plus it's a may contain eggs.

>
> He has an opinion for advertising, he did not say he was against gays.
> People from his generation are traditionalists about things like that.


What if he had said "that he wouldn't feature mixed race couples in his
company's commercials because he prefers the "traditional" family"?

> I'm not going to put people in the Ames Iowa plant out of work for it,
> they needs jobs too.


Buy another brand and you'll keep other workers in work.

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On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 4:03:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

> I see the future of meats in America and it is rotisserie chicken and
> pork chops. Sorry to hear of your problems with Walmart. My
> understanding is that they sell guns and ammo at Walmarts on the
> mainland. That does not sound like a good idea!


Why? I shop at a Walmart-like chain, and it can be convenient
to pick up some .22 long while I'm getting my regular groceries?

Granted, my husband is too much of a gun snob to actually buy guns
there (or at Walmart).

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/1/2016 16:01 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 1/9/2016 10:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>

>>
>>>
>>> This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>>>
>>> http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/26/news...***/index.html
>>>
>>> Plus it's a may contain eggs.

>>
>> He has an opinion for advertising, he did not say he was against gays.
>> People from his generation are traditionalists about things like that.

>
> What if he had said "that he wouldn't feature mixed race couples in his
> company's commercials because he prefers the "traditional" family"?
>
>> I'm not going to put people in the Ames Iowa plant out of work for it,
>> they needs jobs too.

>
> Buy another brand and you'll keep other workers in work.


Quite true.

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On 10/1/2016 14:39 Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:18:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > Barilla whole grain pasta used to be 51% whole grain but is 100% now
>>>> > and
>>>> > tastes about the same as before.
>>>>
>>>> I won't buy that brand, for many reasons.
>>>
>>> It's one of the best on the market.

>>
>> This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>>
>> http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/26/news...***/index.html

>
> I agree. For some troglodytes in this ng it's probably a reason to buy
> the brand.


Seems that way.

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> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 19:41:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>>Over here they tend to put the Walmarts in the more impoverished parts of
>>towns and cities and those areas generally do have high crime rates.

>
> For heavens sake, Julie. That isn't true. What a generalization.
> Janet US


It most certainly is! "Over here" meaning the specific area where I live.
We have one in Lynnwood, the food center in Lynnwood and two in Everett.
All in high crime areas. But the Super store is in a particularly bad area.

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On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 5:31:56 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:17:56 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:24:45 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2016-01-08 12:13 PM, sf wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > A long time ago, people where talking here about using regular lasagna
> > >> > noodles as no boil and said they made their sauce more liquid to cook
> > >> > them. I do that for regular no boil (Barilla). Not soupy, just a
> > >> > little looser than I would otherwise and it turns out just fine.
> > >> > Julie would probably have better luck with the whole wheat if she
> > >> > increased the liquid and allowed it to cook a bit longer. Personally,
> > >> > the thought of whole wheat lasagna noodles doesn't appeal to me, so
> > >> > I'll never put theory into practice.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Catelli makes "Smart Pasta" that is made partially with whole wheat and
> > >> it is pretty good. I have been using it for about 5 years.
> > >
> > > Which is yet another brand I've never heard of and won't be buying via
> > > Amazon.

> >
> > The fact that you haven't heard of something means nothing. Time and again
> > you have proven that you think something isn't in your area when it is.

>
> If I think it's not, it's because I never buy the product and am not
> even interested.... particularly frozen foods - which you seem to be
> so fond of.


Yeah, here's what I don't get. She won't eat frozen homemade soup, but
she'll buy from Schwann's.

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On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:23:20 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 19:41:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> snip
> >
> >Over here they tend to put the Walmarts in the more impoverished parts of
> >towns and cities and those areas generally do have high crime rates.

>
> For heavens sake, Julie. That isn't true. What a generalization.
> Janet US


You said it. The newer Walmart here is outside town, roughly halfway
between affluent Ann Arbor and affluent Saline. The older one is
in a more downscale area, but still notably lacking in high crime
rates.

I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.

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On 1/10/2016 1:09 AM, Bruce wrote:

>>
>> He has an opinion for advertising, he did not say he was against gays.
>> People from his generation are traditionalists about things like that.

>
> What if he had said "that he wouldn't feature mixed race couples in his
> company's commercials because he prefers the "traditional" family"?
>


His opinion. Evidently is is shared with many other advertisers. How
many *** or mixed race couples do you see in advertisement?

Most business owners have enough sense to keep their mouth shut. I'm
sure you buy many products from companies that you have an opposite
opinion of the CEO but they don't tell you about it.

Kellogg started because his cereal was supposed to lessen the desire for
masturbation. Have you had your corn flakes?
http://mentalfloss.com/article/32042...bation-crusade

Be sure to read what he wanted to do to girls too. Its at the end.

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:23:20 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 19:41:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> snip
>> >
>> >Over here they tend to put the Walmarts in the more impoverished parts
>> >of
>> >towns and cities and those areas generally do have high crime rates.

>>
>> For heavens sake, Julie. That isn't true. What a generalization.
>> Janet US

>
> You said it. The newer Walmart here is outside town, roughly halfway
> between affluent Ann Arbor and affluent Saline. The older one is
> in a more downscale area, but still notably lacking in high crime
> rates.
>
> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Where I am, Super Walmart is in a brand new area, and the old Walmart is
very close by to that. Also the ones that are in Stockton are in nice areas,
and there are a lot of bad areas there.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:04:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 5:31:56 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:17:56 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "sf" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:24:45 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 2016-01-08 12:13 PM, sf wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > A long time ago, people where talking here about using regular lasagna
> > > >> > noodles as no boil and said they made their sauce more liquid to cook
> > > >> > them. I do that for regular no boil (Barilla). Not soupy, just a
> > > >> > little looser than I would otherwise and it turns out just fine.
> > > >> > Julie would probably have better luck with the whole wheat if she
> > > >> > increased the liquid and allowed it to cook a bit longer. Personally,
> > > >> > the thought of whole wheat lasagna noodles doesn't appeal to me, so
> > > >> > I'll never put theory into practice.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Catelli makes "Smart Pasta" that is made partially with whole wheat and
> > > >> it is pretty good. I have been using it for about 5 years.
> > > >
> > > > Which is yet another brand I've never heard of and won't be buying via
> > > > Amazon.
> > >
> > > The fact that you haven't heard of something means nothing. Time and again
> > > you have proven that you think something isn't in your area when it is.

> >
> > If I think it's not, it's because I never buy the product and am not
> > even interested.... particularly frozen foods - which you seem to be
> > so fond of.

>
> Yeah, here's what I don't get. She won't eat frozen homemade soup, but
> she'll buy from Schwann's.
>

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/10/2016 1:09 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>
>>> He has an opinion for advertising, he did not say he was against gays.
>>> People from his generation are traditionalists about things like that.

>>
>> What if he had said "that he wouldn't feature mixed race couples in his
>> company's commercials because he prefers the "traditional" family"?
>>

>
> His opinion. Evidently is is shared with many other advertisers. How
> many *** or mixed race couples do you see in advertisement?
>
> Most business owners have enough sense to keep their mouth shut. I'm
> sure you buy many products from companies that you have an opposite
> opinion of the CEO but they don't tell you about it.
>
> Kellogg started because his cereal was supposed to lessen the desire for
> masturbation. Have you had your corn flakes?
> http://mentalfloss.com/article/32042...bation-crusade
>
>
> Be sure to read what he wanted to do to girls too. Its at the end.
>

Lol, wither fruit loops...

;-)


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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 06:09:19 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
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> What if he had said "that he wouldn't feature mixed race couples in his
> company's commercials because he prefers the "traditional" family"?


I buy Barilla now in spite of his attitude about a "classic family".
If he could shape the American legal landscape, maybe I'd have a
different viewpoint, but he doesn't and I don't. He's obviously an
old fashioned Italian whose POV was shaped by the old style church
thinking. He's also a businessman. If reflecting customers in
advertising becomes a trend in his markets, his ads probably will too.
If they don't change, he'll be dead soon and whoever takes charge of
the company will have a more enlightened attitude.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.


They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.

>
> They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
> wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
> need their paltry paying jobs.
>

Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.

Thanks.

Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.

Just so you know...
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.

> >
> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
> > need their paltry paying jobs.
> >

> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>
> Thanks.


That's the idea around here.
>
> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>
> Just so you know...


Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>>> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>
>>> They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>>> wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
>>> need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>

>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> That's the idea around here.
>>
>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>
>> Just so you know...

>
> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
> here.
>


That's there", not "here".

You live in a spendy city!


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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>> >
>> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
>> > need their paltry paying jobs.
>> >

>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> That's the idea around here.
>>
>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>
>> Just so you know...

>
> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
> here.
>
> --
>
> sf


Probably should find a different *here* to live.

Cheri

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Cheri wrote:
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> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>> >
>>> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>>> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
>>> > need their paltry paying jobs.
>>> >
>>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>>
>>> Thanks.

>>
>> That's the idea around here.
>>>
>>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>>
>>> Just so you know...

>>
>> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>> here.
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf

>
> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>
> Cheri


Yabut...she lives in a mucho cool city.
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> Cheri wrote:
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>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>>> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>> >
>>>> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>>>> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
>>>> > need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>> >
>>>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> That's the idea around here.
>>>>
>>>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>>>
>>>> Just so you know...
>>>
>>> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>>> here.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf

>>
>> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> Yabut...she lives in a mucho cool city.


She can obviously afford it, if you can't you should move, and I disagree
about the city...I dislike San Francisco a whole lot and haven't gone back
for many years. To each their own.

Cheri

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On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 3:02:21 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
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> > On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 19:41:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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> > snip
> >>
> >>Over here they tend to put the Walmarts in the more impoverished parts of
> >>towns and cities and those areas generally do have high crime rates.

> >
> > For heavens sake, Julie. That isn't true. What a generalization.
> > Janet US

>
> It most certainly is! "Over here" meaning the specific area where I live..
> We have one in Lynnwood, the food center in Lynnwood and two in Everett.
> All in high crime areas. But the Super store is in a particularly bad area.


We used to live in Lynnwood. Sorry to hear it had degenerated to such a level. OTOH, I saw a couple of dumb-looking guys working in cahoots to rip off a circular saw from a hardware store. The cashier told one guy that his buddy tried to walk out with a saw and he said "waahh?" Then he told them to beat it. I guess the criminals have gotten a little better at their craft. Otherwise, it was a pretty peaceful scene - at the time.
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>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
> >> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
> >> >
> >> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
> >> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
> >> > need their paltry paying jobs.
> >> >
> >> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
> >>
> >> Thanks.

> >
> > That's the idea around here.
> >>
> >> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
> >>
> >> Just so you know...

> >
> > Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
> > here.
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf

>
> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>

They are. Poverty is being suburbanized.

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> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:31:30 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>> >
>> >> sf wrote:
>> >> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>> >> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>> >> >
>> >> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>> >> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent
>> >> > areas
>> >> > need their paltry paying jobs.
>> >> >
>> >> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >
>> > That's the idea around here.
>> >>
>> >> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>> >>
>> >> Just so you know...
>> >
>> > Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>> > here.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > sf

>>
>> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>>

> They are. Poverty is being suburbanized.
>
> --
>
> sf


That's what a person has to do unfortunately.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 12:33:05 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:

> Cheri wrote:
> >
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
> >>
> >>> sf wrote:
> >>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
> >>> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
> >>> >
> >>> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
> >>> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
> >>> > need their paltry paying jobs.
> >>> >
> >>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>
> >> That's the idea around here.
> >>>
> >>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
> >>>
> >>> Just so you know...
> >>
> >> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
> >> here.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> sf

> >
> > Probably should find a different *here* to live.
> >
> > Cheri

>
> Yabut...she lives in a mucho cool city.


Thanks. I'm not part of the working poor, but it doesn't mean I'm
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> To each their own.


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On 10/01/2016 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>>> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>
>>> They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>>> wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
>>> need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>

>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> That's the idea around here.
>>
>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>
>> Just so you know...

>
> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
> here.
>

F.W. Woolworth said that if there were the choice that you could screw
the rich or screw the poor, then screw the poor because there are more
of them.
That seems to be part of their philosophy.
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Cheri wrote:
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> "cibola de oro" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>>>> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>>>>> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent
>>>>> areas
>>>>> > need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>>> >
>>>>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> That's the idea around here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just so you know...
>>>>
>>>> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> sf
>>>
>>> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> Yabut...she lives in a mucho cool city.

>
> She can obviously afford it, if you can't you should move, and I
> disagree about the city...I dislike San Francisco a whole lot and
> haven't gone back for many years. To each their own.
>
> Cheri


My memories are still locked in the late 60s and late 70s when I last
visited.

I know it has changed A LOT since then.

And not for the better.


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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:31:30 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>>>>> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>>>
>>>>> They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>>>>> wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
>>>>> need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>>>
>>>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> That's the idea around here.
>>>>
>>>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>>>
>>>> Just so you know...
>>>
>>> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>>> here.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf

>>
>> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>>

> They are. Poverty is being suburbanized.
>


And re-funded by complicit politicians.
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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 12:33:05 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>>>>>> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>>>>>> wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
>>>>>> need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> That's the idea around here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just so you know...
>>>>
>>>> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> sf
>>>
>>> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> Yabut...she lives in a mucho cool city.

>
> Thanks. I'm not part of the working poor, but it doesn't mean I'm
> blind or unsympathetic.
>

Of course not, a problem doesn't go away from ignoring it.

Oh for that to be true...

Goodbye meth!
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"cibola de oro" > wrote in message
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> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "cibola de oro" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>>>>> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent
>>>>>> > areas
>>>>>> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent
>>>>>> areas
>>>>>> > need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the idea around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just so you know...
>>>>>
>>>>> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> sf
>>>>
>>>> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Yabut...she lives in a mucho cool city.

>>
>> She can obviously afford it, if you can't you should move, and I
>> disagree about the city...I dislike San Francisco a whole lot and
>> haven't gone back for many years. To each their own.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> My memories are still locked in the late 60s and late 70s when I last
> visited.
>
> I know it has changed A LOT since then.
>
> And not for the better.


I loved SF in the 60's and 70's, but other things happened while there many
years ago and wouldn't go back again unless it was an absolute necessity.

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graham wrote:
> On 10/01/2016 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished parts
>>>>> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>>
>>>> They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent areas
>>>> wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent areas
>>>> need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>>
>>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>>
>>> Thanks.

>>
>> That's the idea around here.
>>>
>>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>>
>>> Just so you know...

>>
>> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>> here.
>>

> F.W. Woolworth said that if there were the choice that you could screw
> the rich or screw the poor, then screw the poor because there are more
> of them.


Yawn...

Have a citation for that LIE?

You florid asshole.

> That seems to be part of their philosophy.


Who is this "their" you raving left wing ****brain?

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=389x4518114

Frank Woolworth opened his first store, in Utica, New York State, in
1879 with the gimmick that everything was priced at five cents. It
failed because it was too far out of the town centre, but a second shop
in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, became a roaring success. He soon varied the
formula, selling some goods at 10 cents, and the famous 'five-and-dime'
store was born.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Winfield_Woolworth

He borrowed $300 and opened a five-cent store in Utica, New York, on
February 22, 1878. It failed within weeks. Woolworth opened his second
store in April 1879, in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where he expanded the
concept to include merchandise priced at ten cents.

In 1911, the F.W. Woolworth Company was incorporated with 586 stores. In
1913, Woolworth built the Woolworth Building in New York City at a cost
of $13.5 million in cash. At the time, it was the tallest building in
the world, measuring 792 feet, or 241.4 meters.[13]

Woolworth often made unannounced visits to his stores, where he would
shoplift items to test the staff's attentiveness. Managers or clerks who
caught him doing so were sometimes rewarded with promotions.[14]
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> "cibola de oro" > wrote in message
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>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "cibola de oro" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Cheri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:07:30 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:08:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> I could generalize that Walmart favors the less impoverished
>>>>>>> parts
>>>>>>> >> of towns and cities, where people have more disposable income.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > They go into the worst areas where I live. Nobody in affluent
>>>>>>> > areas
>>>>>>> > wants a nearby Walmart devaluing property and the less affluent
>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>> > need their paltry paying jobs.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Iow, they DO create jobs where they're needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the idea around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Btw - "paltry" was just raised by them to $10/hr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just so you know...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still just a drop in the bucket. $15 an hour doesn't go very far
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sf
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably should find a different *here* to live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> Yabut...she lives in a mucho cool city.
>>>
>>> She can obviously afford it, if you can't you should move, and I
>>> disagree about the city...I dislike San Francisco a whole lot and
>>> haven't gone back for many years. To each their own.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> My memories are still locked in the late 60s and late 70s when I last
>> visited.
>>
>> I know it has changed A LOT since then.
>>
>> And not for the better.

>
> I loved SF in the 60's and 70's, but other things happened while there
> many years ago and wouldn't go back again unless it was an absolute
> necessity.
>
> Cheri


I hear you, the videos I see now of what goes on their now ew horrific.

The drug culture of our youth left no Tern un-stoned, as the old pun goes...

And no, I'm not Gull-ible..

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>On 1/10/2016 1:09 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>
>>> He has an opinion for advertising, he did not say he was against gays.
>>> People from his generation are traditionalists about things like that.

>>
>> What if he had said "that he wouldn't feature mixed race couples in his
>> company's commercials because he prefers the "traditional" family"?
>>

>
>His opinion. Evidently is is shared with many other advertisers. How
>many *** or mixed race couples do you see in advertisement?


That depends which country you're talking about.

>Most business owners have enough sense to keep their mouth shut. I'm
>sure you buy many products from companies that you have an opposite
>opinion of the CEO but they don't tell you about it.


Maybe I'll just stop buying anything. Just to be safe.

>Kellogg started because his cereal was supposed to lessen the desire for
>masturbation. Have you had your corn flakes?
>http://mentalfloss.com/article/32042...bation-crusade
>
>Be sure to read what he wanted to do to girls too. Its at the end.


Lol, what a nut.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:00:21 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 06:09:19 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
>wrote:
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>> What if he had said "that he wouldn't feature mixed race couples in his
>> company's commercials because he prefers the "traditional" family"?

>
>I buy Barilla now in spite of his attitude about a "classic family".
>If he could shape the American legal landscape, maybe I'd have a
>different viewpoint, but he doesn't and I don't. He's obviously an
>old fashioned Italian whose POV was shaped by the old style church
>thinking. He's also a businessman. If reflecting customers in
>advertising becomes a trend in his markets, his ads probably will too.
>If they don't change, he'll be dead soon and whoever takes charge of
>the company will have a more enlightened attitude.


Yes, some problems solve themselves. The homophobe will retire soon.
Of course the question is how he raised his children

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>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 06:09:19 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What if he had said "that he wouldn't feature mixed race couples in his
>>> company's commercials because he prefers the "traditional" family"?

>>
>> I buy Barilla now in spite of his attitude about a "classic family".
>> If he could shape the American legal landscape, maybe I'd have a
>> different viewpoint, but he doesn't and I don't. He's obviously an
>> old fashioned Italian whose POV was shaped by the old style church
>> thinking. He's also a businessman. If reflecting customers in
>> advertising becomes a trend in his markets, his ads probably will too.
>> If they don't change, he'll be dead soon and whoever takes charge of
>> the company will have a more enlightened attitude.

>
> Yes, some problems solve themselves. The homophobe will retire soon.


Cuz we all know it's so "normal" for gays to run more than 3% of the
market...

> Of course the question is how he raised his children


This from a mincing nancy boy like YOU?

It is to laugh.
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>
> The drug culture of our youth left no Tern un-stoned, as the old pun
> goes...
>
> And no, I'm not Gull-ible..
>
> %-)


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On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 3:02:21 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Janet B" > wrote in message
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> > > wrote:
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> > snip
> >>
> >>Over here they tend to put the Walmarts in the more impoverished parts
> >>of
> >>towns and cities and those areas generally do have high crime rates.

> >
> > For heavens sake, Julie. That isn't true. What a generalization.
> > Janet US

>
> It most certainly is! "Over here" meaning the specific area where I live.
> We have one in Lynnwood, the food center in Lynnwood and two in Everett.
> All in high crime areas. But the Super store is in a particularly bad
> area.


We used to live in Lynnwood. Sorry to hear it had degenerated to such a
level. OTOH, I saw a couple of dumb-looking guys working in cahoots to rip
off a circular saw from a hardware store. The cashier told one guy that his
buddy tried to walk out with a saw and he said "waahh?" Then he told them to
beat it. I guess the criminals have gotten a little better at their craft.
Otherwise, it was a pretty peaceful scene - at the time.

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We moved to this area when I was 7. Lynnwood was pretty much all woods at
that point in time. There were some businesses. Not a lot. The big thing
was the Lynn-O-Rama. Not sure they even have that any more. There was a
parade and a small carnival.

They put the mall in around the late 70's to early 80's. Not sure the exact
year. It has been booming ever since. Lots of apartment buildings. I
can't say that overall, the city is bad but it does have its parts.

I don't think it's as bad as Everett or Marysville. I am very glad that we
did not move to Everett! When we first moved back here, the real estate
agent noticed me turning up my nose when she mentioned it. At that point in
time I was thinking mainly of the school district. She then balked, told me
that it no longer had a stigma and that she lived there. The fact that she
said, "no longer", indicated to me that she knew that it did have a stigma.
And perhaps when we first moved back here, it wasn't too bad. But it sure
is now.

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