Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.

Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
leftover for lunch and another dinner.

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>
>Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>leftover for lunch and another dinner.

Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!
Janet US

On 1/14/2016 3:05 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>> dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>> ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>> them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>>
>> Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>> degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>> plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>> leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>
> Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
> couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
> imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!
> Janet US
>

At Thanksgiving the smallest Turkey I could find was over 14 pounds. I
was surprised at the size of these birds, but since they were hatched,
if they don't sell they get bigger. My guess is there may have been a
slowdown in sales of the birds.

On 15/1/2016 07:05 Janet B wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>>dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>>ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>>them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>>
>>Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>>degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>>plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>>leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>
> Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
> couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
> imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!

Yes and from a farm too!

--
Bruce

On 14/01/2016 1:05 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>> dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>> ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>> them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>>
>> Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>> degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>> plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>> leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>
> Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
> couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
> imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!
> Janet US
>
When I was a child, my parents kept chickens and raised capons for the
pot. Their dressed weight at xmas often approached 14 pounds.
Graham

--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag
and carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis.

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:05:36 PM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
> >dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
> >ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
> >them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
> >
> >Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
> >degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
> >plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
> >leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>
> Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
> couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
> imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!
> Janet US

Chickens on STEROIDS!!!

Or just bred into being so huge they can not even support their own weight to walk!! Most likely!!

John Kuthe...

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
> dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger ones
> so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put them on
> sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>
> Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
> degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
> plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
> leftover for lunch and another dinner.


Ooof! I don't think I've ever had one that big!!

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On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:07:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:05:36 PM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> >Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>> >dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>> >ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>> >them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>> >
>> >Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>> >degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>> >plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>> >leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>>
>> Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
>> couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
>> imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!
>> Janet US
>
>Chickens on STEROIDS!!!
>
>Or just bred into being so huge they can not even support their own weight to walk!! Most likely!!

No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
88c/lb.

On 15/1/2016 09:12 Jeßus wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:07:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:05:36 PM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>> >Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>>> >dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>>> >ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>>> >them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>>> >
>>> >Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>>> >degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>>> >plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>>> >leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>>>
>>> Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
>>> couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
>>> imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Chickens on STEROIDS!!!
>>
>>Or just bred into being so huge they can not even support their own weight to walk!! Most likely!!
>
> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
> 88c/lb.

Thank you.

--
Bruce

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 22:28:04 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
wrote:

>On 15/1/2016 09:12 Jeßus wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:07:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:05:36 PM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>>>> >dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>>>> >ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>>>> >them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>>>> >
>>>> >Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>>>> >degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>>>> >plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>>>> >leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>>>>
>>>> Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
>>>> couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
>>>> imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>Chickens on STEROIDS!!!
>>>
>>>Or just bred into being so huge they can not even support their own weight to walk!! Most likely!!
>>
>> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>> 88c/lb.
>
>Thank you.

No problem

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:46:49 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:12:04 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>> 88c/lb.
>
>There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
>pounds.

That is true, however I'm not aware of any commercial breeds that are
of that size under 'natural' conditions. All the large breeds 8lb or
bigger that I know of are uneconomic commercially due to their slow
growth. But I'm not in the U.S and maybe you have a breed there that
I'm unaware of, please correct me if I'm wrong.

On 15/1/2016 09:46 Sqwertz wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:12:04 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>> 88c/lb.
>
> There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
> pounds.

"Most chickens who end up on peopleÿs dinner plates today grow so huge,
so fast, that they can barely stand up. Many collapse under their own
weight and spend much of their lives lying in their own waste, with
open sores and wounds."
http://truthaboutchicken.org/

Don't click. It's an inconvenient truth.

--
Bruce

On 2016-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:

> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
> 88c/lb.

Zyklon-B?

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>
>Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>leftover for lunch and another dinner.

I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.

On 14 Jan 2016 23:04:45 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>> 88c/lb.
>
>Zyklon-B?

Not sure that would be kosher

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 22:59:57 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
wrote:

>On 15/1/2016 09:46 Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:12:04 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
>>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>>> 88c/lb.
>>
>> There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
>> pounds.
>
>"Most chickens who end up on people´s dinner plates today grow so huge,
>so fast, that they can barely stand up. Many collapse under their own
>weight and spend much of their lives lying in their own waste, with
>open sores and wounds."
>http://truthaboutchicken.org/
>
>Don't click. It's an inconvenient truth.

Just to clarify, how they are raised commercially does vary country to
country. eg, a lot of U.S practices are illegal in Australia.

I haven't watched this as I don't have the bandwidth, but I think it
contains what I was looking for...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpbtBgLfl90

On 15/1/2016 10:32 Jeßus wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 22:59:57 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>>On 15/1/2016 09:46 Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:12:04 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>>> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
>>>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>>>> 88c/lb.
>>>
>>> There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
>>> pounds.
>>
>>"Most chickens who end up on people´s dinner plates today grow so huge,
>>so fast, that they can barely stand up. Many collapse under their own
>>weight and spend much of their lives lying in their own waste, with
>>open sores and wounds."
>>http://truthaboutchicken.org/
>>
>>Don't click. It's an inconvenient truth.
>
> Just to clarify, how they are raised commercially does vary country to
> country. eg, a lot of U.S practices are illegal in Australia.
>
> I haven't watched this as I don't have the bandwidth, but I think it
> contains what I was looking for...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpbtBgLfl90

Hard to watch, but that's how it goes. I believe that artificially
enlarged factory chickens are on the way out in Europe. May everybody
else follow.

--
Bruce

On 2016-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:

> On 14 Jan 2016 23:04:45 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>>On 2016-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:

>>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>>> 88c/lb.

>>Zyklon-B?

> Not sure that would be kosher

When have you ever been able to buy anything --let alone kosher-- fer
as little as 88¢/lb? I mean in this century.

nb

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:30:42 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:58:55 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:46:49 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:12:04 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>>> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
>>>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>>>> 88c/lb.
>>>
>>>There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
>>>pounds.
>>
>> That is true, however I'm not aware of any commercial breeds that are
>> of that size under 'natural' conditions. All the large breeds 8lb or
>> bigger that I know of are uneconomic commercially due to their slow
>> growth. But I'm not in the U.S and maybe you have a breed there that
>> I'm unaware of, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>Well, there is this link that says typical commercial meat chicken are
>a cross of Cornish Hens and Plymouth Rock, but I think it's suspect.
>
>http://chickenbreedslist.com/5-Large...en-Breeds.html
>
>From what I recall, the USDA (or FDA?) said something to effect that
>while Cornish hens were the classic meat chicken at one time, that
>today's chickens are of indeterminate progeny and finding a true
>Cornish and/or rock hen in production would be unheard of.
>
>This guy calls them Cornish giants:
>http://www.moyerschicks.com/breeds
>
>If the commercial breeds of chickens weren't overfed and got some
>exercise they could probably reach 8-10 pounds no problem. Growers
>rely on unhealthy feeds and conservation of calories to get birds big,
>and quickly (yes, inhumane). But you could get those same chickens
>just as big while still being (mostly) humane. It would just take
>longer.

I think therein lies the problem for commercial purposes - they take
too long to raise that way. Of course, if people were willing to /pay/
more, it wouldn't be an issue. But that isn't how things work,
unfortunately, cheaper is apparently always better.

>Whole chicken here is $.77/lb this week. I picked up a 5.5lber. Half
>of it will be eaten tonight as Vietnamese lemongrass/ginger/nuoc cam
>marinated and grilled chicken.

Damn that's so cheap. IME commercial chicken in Aus is a fair bit more
expensive, but still too cheap, IMO. I buy free range chickens which
cost around AUD $12 for a 3.5lb bird.

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:05:20 -0400, wrote:

>I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
>talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
>sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
>disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.

Quality of ready cooked chooks vary wildly from place to place in my
experience. I've had some really good ones... and some bloody awful
ones too.

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:48:45 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:05:20 -0400, wrote:
>
>>I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
>>talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
>>sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
>>disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.
>
>Quality of ready cooked chooks vary wildly from place to place in my
>experience. I've had some really good ones... and some bloody awful
>ones too.

This looked very nice but looks were all it had! Large supermarket
and they sell plenty, so maybe I am too picky.

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:05:53 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:48:45 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:05:20 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
>>>talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
>>>sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
>>>disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.
>>
>>Quality of ready cooked chooks vary wildly from place to place in my
>>experience. I've had some really good ones... and some bloody awful
>>ones too.
>
>This looked very nice but looks were all it had! Large supermarket
>and they sell plenty, so maybe I am too picky.

The variation in quality and taste and size is tremendous. Mostly I
have had bad ones except for those from Costco.
Janet US

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:11:28 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:05:53 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:48:45 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:05:20 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>>I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
>>>>talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
>>>>sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
>>>>disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.
>>>
>>>Quality of ready cooked chooks vary wildly from place to place in my
>>>experience. I've had some really good ones... and some bloody awful
>>>ones too.
>>
>>This looked very nice but looks were all it had! Large supermarket
>>and they sell plenty, so maybe I am too picky.
>
>The variation in quality and taste and size is tremendous. Mostly I
>have had bad ones except for those from Costco.
>Janet US

I go to Costco occasionally with a friend, will try to remember to
pick one up there. Must say, the one I bought looked tempting but to
me had no 'chicken' flavour, nor BBQ, just rather blah. It was
slightly better as soup It was odd because I have never thought
to buy one previous to the discussion here lol

On 2016-01-14 20:01:28 +0000, Ed Pawlowski said:

> Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
> dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
> ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
> them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>
> Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
> degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
> plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
> leftover for lunch and another dinner.

Sounds good, Ed. I like chicken. Fixed it for supper tonight at Dom
Schallerovych -- thighs and drums shaken in a mix of Panko and Hidden
Valley Ranch dressing mix. Rob loved it. I boiled a sweet potato for
me and Tater Tot Crowns for him. Homemade pickles and a relish -- not
a bad meal considering I didn't know what was for dinner 90 minutes
before we ate. I knew it would be chicken but hadn't decided on the
prep.

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Barb
www.barbschaller.com, last update April 2013

On 2016-01-14 23:05:20 +0000, said:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>> dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>> ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>> them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>>
>> Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>> degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>> plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>> leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>
> I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
> talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
> sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
> disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.

What especially didn't you like? I think they're awfully salty.
--
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Barb
www.barbschaller.com, last update April 2013

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 4:59:15 PM UTC-8, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> On 2016-01-14 20:01:28 +0000, Ed Pawlowski said:
>
> > Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
> > dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
> > ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
> > them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
> >
> > Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
> > degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
> > plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
> > leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>
> Sounds good, Ed. I like chicken. Fixed it for supper tonight at Dom
> Schallerovych -- thighs and drums shaken in a mix of Panko and Hidden
> Valley Ranch dressing mix. Rob loved it. I boiled a sweet potato for
> me and Tater Tot Crowns for him. Homemade pickles and a relish -- not
> a bad meal considering I didn't know what was for dinner 90 minutes
> before we ate. I knew it would be chicken but hadn't decided on the
> prep.
>
> --
> --
> Barb
> www.barbschaller.com, last update April 2013

I had a haircut appointment this afternoon and on the way home I stopped a my favorite store and got an 8 piece fried chicken. They do a really nice job on their fried chicken. Just now having some for dinner. Yum.

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 10:05:36 AM UTC-10, Janet B wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
> >dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
> >ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
> >them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
> >
> >Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
> >degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
> >plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
> >leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>
> Wow! I haven't seen anything like a 9-pounder here. I did pick up a
> couple of 10-pound turkeys right after Christmas. It's hard to
> imagine a chicken about the same size as the turkeys. What a catch!
> Janet US

I'd sure like to see a 13lb chicken strutting through our parking lot. I'd have to walk around that monster! Mostly we got regular sized chickens around here. Some of them though, are quite beautiful - I'm guessing they were from stock bred as fighting chickens.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b002d5c078d3cb

On 1/14/2016 4:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I picked up a 5.5lber.
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

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>
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She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/14/2016 3:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> There are several breeds of chickens
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/14/2016 4:46 PM, Je�us wrote:
> Damn that's so cheap.
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/14/2016 3:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
> Don't click. It's an inconvenient truth.
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/14/2016 3:58 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:46:49 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:12:04 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
>>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>>> 88c/lb.
>>
>> There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
>> pounds.
>
> That is true, however


You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 5:02:45 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On 15/1/2016 09:46 Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:12:04 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
> >
> >> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
> >> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
> >> 88c/lb.
> >
> > There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
> > pounds.
>
> "Most chickens who end up on people's dinner plates today grow so huge,
> so fast, that they can barely stand up. Many collapse under their own
> weight and spend much of their lives lying in their own waste, with
> open sores and wounds."
> http://truthaboutchicken.org/
>
> Don't click. It's an inconvenient truth.
>
> --
> Bruce

Yep! Sick sad and TRUE! ;-)

John Kuthe...

In article >, Sqwertz
> wrote:

> There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
> pounds.

Ed's was dressed. I remember several grades of chicken during the late
fifties and sixties. There were roasters (medium big), capons (medium
big) and stewing hens (big, old and stringy for stew). You can still
get a big free range chicken by stopping at a U.S. ranch with chickens
in the yard and saying "I want that one".
Chicken plucking instructions upon request. There's a trick to it.

leo

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
> dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
> ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
> them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.

Are you sure it was labeled correctly? That's the size of a small
turkey!
>
> Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
> degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
> plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
> leftover for lunch and another dinner.

I hope there's enough for more than one meal, if you're only serving 2
people. Don't forget to save the carcass for stock.

--

sf

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:48:45 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:05:20 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
>>>talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
>>>sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
>>>disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.
>>
>>Quality of ready cooked chooks vary wildly from place to place in my
>>experience. I've had some really good ones... and some bloody awful
>>ones too.
>
> This looked very nice but looks were all it had! Large supermarket
> and they sell plenty, so maybe I am too picky.

I bought one once when we were travelling. It was ... ok, but the leftover
were awful.

I won't be bothering again.



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Ophelia wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> >>>I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
> >>>talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
> >>>sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
> >>>disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.
> > This looked very nice but looks were all it had! Large supermarket
> > and they sell plenty, so maybe I am too picky.
>
> I bought one once when we were travelling. It was ... ok, but the leftover
> were awful.
>
> I won't be bothering again.

I was going to respond to lucretia but saw your response so I'm
responding to you both.

Those "rotisserie chickens" definitely vary from store to store.

My main grocery store sells them. I bought one once and it was awful.

Then I tried one from my 1st alt-grocery store and theirs are
*fantastic* !

Just like real estate... it's all about "location, location, location"

:-D

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:03:05 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>On 2016-01-14 23:05:20 +0000, said:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:01:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> Stopped at the grocery store and thought I'd see what would be good for
>>> dinner. Chickens were on sale for 88¢ a pound. They were all larger
>>> ones so they must not have been selling from the farms well so they put
>>> them on sale to move them out. The one I chose was over 9 pounds.
>>>
>>> Seasoned it, set it high on a rack for good exposure, roasted it a 425
>>> degrees in a convection oven. It had a nice crispy skin, juicy meat,
>>> plenty of drippings for gravy. Made for a good meal with plenty of
>>> leftover for lunch and another dinner.
>>
>> I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
>> talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
>> sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
>> disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.
>
>What especially didn't you like? I think they're awfully salty.
>--
From things people said here in a recent discussion I thought it was
going to taste at least as good as a home cooked one, but it was
rather flavourless. Janet says she gets hers at Costco, maybe next
time I will try there.

It's attractive as a 'convenience' food somehow

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 06:44:23 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>I had never bought a ready-cooked chicken in my life until there was
>> >>>talk of them here - bought one recently, thought it would be nice, the
>> >>>sort turning on the spit in a box oven, but I found it very
>> >>>disappointing. Ate a leg then turned the rest into soup.
>> > This looked very nice but looks were all it had! Large supermarket
>> > and they sell plenty, so maybe I am too picky.
>>
>> I bought one once when we were travelling. It was ... ok, but the leftover
>> were awful.
>>
>> I won't be bothering again.
>
>I was going to respond to lucretia but saw your response so I'm
>responding to you both.
>
>Those "rotisserie chickens" definitely vary from store to store.
>
>My main grocery store sells them. I bought one once and it was awful.
>
>Then I tried one from my 1st alt-grocery store and theirs are
>*fantastic* !
>
>Just like real estate... it's all about "location, location, location"
>
> :-D

So Janet said, I will try one from Costco, not that I go there very
often.

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> Chicken plucking instructions upon request. There's a trick to it.

I'd like to hear your plan, Leo.
Not that I'll ever do this but I'd like to hear what you have to say.

From my brief hunting days, I've heard about dipping the bird in
melted parafin then pulling off feathers once it starts to harden.
Kind of like waxing the hair off your body.

From my mom lately, I learned that her dad would pluck the big
feathers off, then wrap the chicken in a few layers of newspaper, set
it on fire out in the yard, and it would burn off all the small
underfeathers and quills left.