> wrote in message
...

> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!

We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Mark Storkamp wrote:
>>
>> Pick a destination, drive 'till I'm tired, find a motel, go out to a
>> restaurant, sleep in a comfortable bed, shower in a real shower. That's
>> my kind of camping. Did the Boy Scout sleeping on rocks and twigs thing
>> when I was a kid. Motels are cheaper than motor homes. At least they are
>> before retirement.
>
> RV's and motels are fine if that's what you want. Just don't call that
> camping you bunch of spoiled babies. To call it camping is the
> silliest thing I've ever heard of.

OK, you get to be the official designator of what is and isn't camping, for
yourself, but...you're wrong. LOL

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
>
> We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
> roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.

+1
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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
> news:mstorkamp-77393E.08150421012016@88-
>
>> Pick a destination, drive 'till I'm tired, find a motel, go out to a
>> restaurant, sleep in a comfortable bed, shower in a real shower. That's
>> my kind of camping. Did the Boy Scout sleeping on rocks and twigs thing
>> when I was a kid. Motels are cheaper than motor homes. At least they are
>> before retirement.
>
> We did a lot of outdoor camping when I was a kid too, told myself when I
> grow up, no more.

+1


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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:17:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>
>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
>
>We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
>roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.
>
>Cheri


How judgemental, did I say we were drunk? AFAIK drunks stayed home,
went to bars and let their kids stay on their own.

On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:

> I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.

What nonsense.

I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
house w/o their cellphone.

nb

On 22 Jan 2016 12:20:00 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
>
>What nonsense.
>
>I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
>house w/o their cellphone.
>
>nb

I do quite often, other times it isn't charged anyway

On 22/01/2016 11:20 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
>
> What nonsense.
>
> I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
> house w/o their cellphone.
>
> nb
>

I often set foot out of my house sans cellphone. I regard my cellphone
as a convenience, not a necessity. It doesn't control my life.

My wife gets a tad ****ed off when I do that however as she can't reach
me. It irks her no end when she's trying to ring me and my phone rings
on the bench here and I'm nowhere to be found. ;-)

--

Xeno

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
>
> What nonsense.
>
> I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
> house w/o their cellphone.

You lose then, nb. When I go camping it's with no cellphone, not even
a battery radio. I drive to some National Park, then hike in at least
a few miles until I find a nice campsite near a stream. I set up a
campsite, make it nice, then stay for 3-4 days with absolutely no
electronics. Rather than hike long each day and set up a new
campsite, I prefer to find a nice place to stay for a few days and do
shorter day hikes.

And also when you leave, you completely eliminate the campsite area.
My Boy Scout days taught me all that.

wrote:
>
> On 22 Jan 2016 12:20:00 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
> >
> >> I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
> >
> >What nonsense.
> >
> >I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
> >house w/o their cellphone.
> >
> >nb
>
> I do quite often, other times it isn't charged anyway

My cell battery died 3 months ago but didn't get another battery for
it as the service provider, (N-Telos) was canceling their service in
my area code only a month later. I do kind of miss some of the
things...like the clock, the calculator...just simple things that I
could do while in the car. I've never really needed one for phone
calls. When I'm working or just out, I don't want to be bothered with
a phone call.

I have a land line with answering machine. If you want to talk to me,
leave a message and I'll get back to you when I feel like talking. I
will not be a slave to a phone. People really do seem totally
addicted to their phones these days. Not me.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>> > I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
>>
>> What nonsense.
>>
>> I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
>> house w/o their cellphone.
>
> You lose then, nb. When I go camping it's with no cellphone, not even
> a battery radio. I drive to some National Park, then hike in at least
> a few miles until I find a nice campsite near a stream. I set up a
> campsite, make it nice, then stay for 3-4 days with absolutely no
> electronics. Rather than hike long each day and set up a new
> campsite, I prefer to find a nice place to stay for a few days and do
> shorter day hikes.
>
> And also when you leave, you completely eliminate the campsite area.
> My Boy Scout days taught me all that.

I just hope that there is never a time when you are injured or ill.

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> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:17:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
>>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
>>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
>>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
>>
>>We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
>>roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.
>>
>>Cheri
>
>
> How judgemental, did I say we were drunk? AFAIK drunks stayed home,
> went to bars and let their kids stay on their own.

??? Where did she say YOU were drunk???



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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 08:18:21 -0500, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> On 22 Jan 2016 12:20:00 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
>> >
>> >What nonsense.
>> >
>> >I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
>> >house w/o their cellphone.
>> >
>> >nb
>>
>> I do quite often, other times it isn't charged anyway
>
>My cell battery died 3 months ago but didn't get another battery for
>it as the service provider, (N-Telos) was canceling their service in
>my area code only a month later. I do kind of miss some of the
>things...like the clock, the calculator...just simple things that I
>could do while in the car. I've never really needed one for phone
>calls. When I'm working or just out, I don't want to be bothered with
>a phone call.
>
>I have a land line with answering machine. If you want to talk to me,
>leave a message and I'll get back to you when I feel like talking. I
>will not be a slave to a phone. People really do seem totally
>addicted to their phones these days. Not me.

I use mine for phone calls and texts - occasionally - can be very
useful, but otherwise it's the landline. If the cell phone were in
this room and I was in the kitchen I wouldn't hear it - concrete
building, whereas with the landline I have four sets on it. One in
kitchen, one in here, one in bedroom and one in bathroom ( the most
dangerous room in the house)

On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:20:58 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:17:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
>>>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
>>>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
>>>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
>>>
>>>We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
>>>roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>>
>> How judgemental, did I say we were drunk? AFAIK drunks stayed home,
>> went to bars and let their kids stay on their own.
>
>??? Where did she say YOU were drunk???

Look at her response to my post, sure looks like she figured because
we enjoyed the social side of camping with the kids somehow enjoying a
drink became drunks and kids having a great time with kids they had
never met before, that became 'roaming' kids.

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 4:22:17 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On 21/1/2016 09:16 jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 1/20/2016 1:23 PM, sf wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:06:40 -0500, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 1/20/2016 11:56 AM, Je?us wrote:
>
> >>>> It can involve fires of course, did I use the wrong term?
> >>>>
> >>>> My friends 'camp' down the coast from here about six months of each
> >>>> year. They are certainly *not* roughing it though. A full size caravan
> >>>> (or trailer) with annexe which has a decent kitchen, solar
> >>>> power/generator, even growing some vegetables on site. Internet
> >>>> access, not one but two boats, a trailer for firewood and water, two
> >>>> 4x4's too I have my camper trailer set up down there next to their
> >>>> setup and come and go when I can.
> >>>>
> >>> (snippage)
> >>>
> >>> Yes, that's the difference in terms. You were in a caravan/trailer.
> >>> With all those bells and whistles. Not pitching a tent in the
> >>> wilderness and gathering wood for a fire. Okey doke.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> RVs (recreational vehicles) are just rolling motels with kitchenettes.
> >>
> > Pretty much! It's not my idea of "camping".
>
> I can imagine driving around in my RV and suddenly I have this
> realization: "Wait a minute! Is this Jill's idea of camping???"
>
It's a semantics thing. It seems silly to use the word, "camping," for
sleeping in a trailer.
>
> Bruce

--Bryan

On 1/22/2016 7:20 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
>
> What nonsense.
>
> I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
> house w/o their cellphone.
>
> nb
>
I would; I don't have a cell phone.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 1/22/2016 7:20 AM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
> >
> >> I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
> >
> > What nonsense.
> >
> > I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
> > house w/o their cellphone.
> >
> > nb
> >
> I would; I don't have a cell phone.

As I said, I haven't had one in 3 months now either. I would like to
buy some cheap smartphone and experiment with it though. Maybe get
some very low monthly plan or just a minutes card. Someone (Steve, I
think) mentioned that you can buy a phone, not set up a calling plan
yet, but still be able to use the internet part in some places that
support wifi. Is this true? Did you say that, Steve?

Regardless, a cheap phone without paying for service (at first) would
at least give me the onphone things like calculator and other little
stupid things?

Anyone know what I should look for for a "starter" phone just to play
with a bit before going to a subscription or time card thing?

On 2016-01-22 9:18 AM, Gary wrote:

>>> I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
>>> house w/o their cellphone.
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> I would; I don't have a cell phone.
>
> As I said, I haven't had one in 3 months now either. I would like to
> buy some cheap smartphone and experiment with it though. Maybe get
> some very low monthly plan or just a minutes card. Someone (Steve, I
> think) mentioned that you can buy a phone, not set up a calling plan
> yet, but still be able to use the internet part in some places that
> support wifi. Is this true? Did you say that, Steve?

Now that I have a smart phone I carry it with me most of the time.
Before that I had a flip phone that I carried for emergency use. I often
forgot to take it with me and it was usually not turned on unless I
wanted to make a call.
>
> Regardless, a cheap phone without paying for service (at first) would
> at least give me the onphone things like calculator and other little
> stupid things?
>
> Anyone know what I should look for for a "starter" phone just to play
> with a bit before going to a subscription or time card thing?
>


You can try for a smart phone without a data plan. Instead of using
data transfer you can hook up to local wifi sources, which are in most
malls, libraries and many other facilities. My plan has minimal data
transfer and I have it disabled. When I am at the gym I hook into the
Y's wifi. When I was first interested in getting a smart phone my son
tried to discourage me, pointing out how little I use my cell phone. I
probably use this smart phone more in a week than I used the old cell
phone(s) over the previous 15 years.

On 1/22/2016 9:19 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>> Okay, Airstream. I'm certainly no expert, I just think those old ones
>> look very cool.
>
> Not only looking cool, an old one in good shape is pretty valuable now
> in the antique sense.
>
I saw two of them on St. Helena, they were leaving the campground area.
I saw something on television about how there is a club of sorts for
owners of those old silver trailers. Apparently they go on road trips
in groups. The ones I saw appeared to be in pristine condition, at
least on the exterior. No doubt they're worth a pretty penny.

Jill

"MisterDiddyWahDiddy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 4:22:17 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On 21/1/2016 09:16 jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> > On 1/20/2016 1:23 PM, sf wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:06:40 -0500, jmcquown >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 1/20/2016 11:56 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>> >>>> It can involve fires of course, did I use the wrong term?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My friends 'camp' down the coast from here about six months of each
>> >>>> year. They are certainly *not* roughing it though. A full size
>> >>>> caravan
>> >>>> (or trailer) with annexe which has a decent kitchen, solar
>> >>>> power/generator, even growing some vegetables on site. Internet
>> >>>> access, not one but two boats, a trailer for firewood and water, two
>> >>>> 4x4's too I have my camper trailer set up down there next to
>> >>>> their
>> >>>> setup and come and go when I can.
>> >>>>
>> >>> (snippage)
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, that's the difference in terms. You were in a caravan/trailer.
>> >>> With all those bells and whistles. Not pitching a tent in the
>> >>> wilderness and gathering wood for a fire. Okey doke.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jill
>> >>
>> >> RVs (recreational vehicles) are just rolling motels with kitchenettes.
>> >>
>> > Pretty much! It's not my idea of "camping".
>>
>> I can imagine driving around in my RV and suddenly I have this
>> realization: "Wait a minute! Is this Jill's idea of camping???"
>>
> It's a semantics thing. It seems silly to use the word, "camping," for
> sleeping in a trailer.
>>

To be honest I think this is all stupid! Why do the *rough* campers take
so much exception to others who prefer to do it in comfort???

Are they having to pay for it? Does it stop them doing things the way THEY
prefer??? NO! So why the hell should we have to put up with nasty remarks
because we prefer to do things they way WE prefer!!!

I don't give a rat's arse what anyone's 'idea of camping' is. Freeze your
ass off for all I care, we will continue to be warm and comfortable and yes,
I will continue to call it CAMPING)


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> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:20:58 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:17:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
> wrote in message
m...
>>>>
>>>>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
>>>>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
>>>>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
>>>>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
>>>>
>>>>We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
>>>>roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>> How judgemental, did I say we were drunk? AFAIK drunks stayed home,
>>> went to bars and let their kids stay on their own.
>>
>>??? Where did she say YOU were drunk???
>
> Look at her response to my post, sure looks like she figured because
> we enjoyed the social side of camping with the kids somehow enjoying a
> drink became drunks and kids having a great time with kids they had
> never met before, that became 'roaming' kids.

Then we must beg to differ.


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In article >,
says...
>
> On 2016-01-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > I agree. If there is electricity it isn't camping.
>
> What nonsense.
>
> I'll bet not a single person in this group would set 3 ft outta their
> house w/o their cellphone.

You lost the bet and owe me $100

Janet UK

On 1/22/2016 7:04 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:17:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
>>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
>>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
>>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
>>
>> We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
>> roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>
> How judgemental, did I say we were drunk? AFAIK drunks stayed home,
> went to bars and let their kids stay on their own.
>
lucretia, you're the one who wrote "parents drinking, kids roaming
round". Cheri was responding to that. She did not say *you* were drunk.

Jill

On 2016-01-21 9:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> You're still out in nature, surrounded by lethal animals, with no
>> sanitary facilities and exposed to the elements.
>>
> The most lethal animal I encountered was a raccoon sniffing around the
> tent in the middle of the night.


I had a couple close encounters on a canoe trip. I had our food in a
pack and tied to a rope strung over a branch so critters could not get
at it. A racoon had managed to reach the bag and pull open the zipper
and some of the food fell out for him. One morning I stepped out of
the tent just after sunrise and there was a big steaming pile of moose
crap.

>
> He later explained these friends have solar panels and an generator. If
> they were using a bread machine they likely had a toilet and a comfy
> bed, too.

I gave up on camping years ago. I don't like sleeping on that hard
ground anymore.

In article >, says...
>
> On 1/22/2016 7:04 AM, wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:17:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
> >>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
> >>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
> >>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
> >>
> >> We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
> >> roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> >
> > How judgemental, did I say we were drunk? AFAIK drunks stayed home,
> > went to bars and let their kids stay on their own.
> >
> lucretia, you're the one who wrote "parents drinking, kids roaming
> round". Cheri was responding to that. She did not say *you* were drunk.

Lucretia didn't say *anybody * was drunk.

Janet UK

On 1/22/2016 10:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-01-21 9:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> You're still out in nature, surrounded by lethal animals, with no
>>> sanitary facilities and exposed to the elements.
>>>
>> The most lethal animal I encountered was a raccoon sniffing around the
>> tent in the middle of the night.
>
>
> I had a couple close encounters on a canoe trip. I had our food in a
> pack and tied to a rope strung over a branch so critters could not get
> at it. A racoon had managed to reach the bag and pull open the zipper
> and some of the food fell out for him.

I was expecting you to tell a tale about bears!

Raccoons have opposable thumbs. They're quite adept at breaking into
things.

> One morning I stepped out of
> the tent just after sunrise and there was a big steaming pile of moose
> crap.
>
No moose where I've ever lived. No bears, either. Whew!

>> He later explained these friends have solar panels and an generator. If
>> they were using a bread machine they likely had a toilet and a comfy
>> bed, too.
>
> I gave up on camping years ago. I don't like sleeping on that hard
> ground anymore.
>
The last time I went camping was when I was in my 30's. I wouldn't do
it now. (We were having a very pleasant weekend until my friend's
boyfriend's redneck cousins showed up.)

Really, I don't care what anyone calls it. I've never been camping
camping where there was electricity. Cooking over an open fire is fun.
I guess that's why so many people own grills, huh? <G>

I don't care if someone uses a caravan/RV, a tent or sleeps on a flimsy
blanket on a boulder. Whatever makes you happy. It was merely the
mention of a bread machine on a camping trip that caused this thread drift.

Oh, and for Ophelia - I have yet to read anything "nasty" in these
posts. Her definition of nasty seems to be quite narrow.

Jill

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 11:21:19 AM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:12:00 -0700, Janet B >
> wrote:
....
> Yes, generators can be annoying... very annoying if used in the wrong
> places. In some places though they can be fine, for example on sites
> with plenty of bush which can mask the noise and fumes and you can run
> a long lead to your camper... mind you, modern generators are very
> quiet and not particularly fumey. Generators have their place, but not
> just in any old place.

Gasoline powered generators are always noisy, stinky and undesirable when camping.

John Kuthe...

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:05:16 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 11:21:19 AM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:12:00 -0700, Janet B >
> > wrote:
> ...
> > Yes, generators can be annoying... very annoying if used in the wrong
> > places. In some places though they can be fine, for example on sites
> > with plenty of bush which can mask the noise and fumes and you can run
> > a long lead to your camper... mind you, modern generators are very
> > quiet and not particularly fumey. Generators have their place, but not
> > just in any old place.
>
> Gasoline powered generators are always noisy, stinky and undesirable when camping.
>
> John Kuthe...

So are creepy old nude men.

On 1/22/2016 10:33 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 1/22/2016 7:04 AM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:17:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
>>>>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
>>>>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
>>>>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
>>>>
>>>> We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
>>>> roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>> How judgemental, did I say we were drunk? AFAIK drunks stayed home,
>>> went to bars and let their kids stay on their own.
>>>
>> lucretia, you're the one who wrote "parents drinking, kids roaming
>> round". Cheri was responding to that. She did not say *you* were drunk.
>
> Lucretia didn't say *anybody * was drunk.
>
> Janet UK
>
Okay, "parents drinking" was inferred.

Jill

On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:12:57 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/22/2016 7:04 AM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:17:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Not being stuck in an RV we met many interesting people and usually
>>>> after supper there would be quite a gathering of kids and parents.
>>>> Terrible of course, parents drinking, kids roaming round, OMG it's
>>>> amazing how strangers didn't grab them!
>>>
>>> We met many interesting people too, and not being stuck outside with the
>>> roaming kids and drunks was an added plus.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>>
>> How judgemental, did I say we were drunk? AFAIK drunks stayed home,
>> went to bars and let their kids stay on their own.
>>
>lucretia, you're the one who wrote "parents drinking, kids roaming
>round". Cheri was responding to that. She did not say *you* were drunk.
>
>Jill

Have you never had a drink socially without getting drunk? I do so
regularly, I enjoy a drink with friends, always have but we certainly
were not drunk. As I said, I enjoyed the side of camping that allowed
us to meet people/kids we would likely never otherwise have met. It
was a small part of the fun of camping. As was often lying under the
stars in a sleeping bag as opposed to going in the tent.

All the camp grounds had washrooms and showers, it was perfectly
sanitary, no hardships, but that was camping. Actually I didn't hear
the RVers refer to themselves as camping and certainly the one who
took the flash pic of the bear put all of us in danger from a bear
trying to get away from he knew not what and crashing through tents!

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 10:21:15 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:05:16 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 11:21:19 AM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:12:00 -0700, Janet B >
> > > wrote:
> > ...
> > > Yes, generators can be annoying... very annoying if used in the wrong
> > > places. In some places though they can be fine, for example on sites
> > > with plenty of bush which can mask the noise and fumes and you can run
> > > a long lead to your camper... mind you, modern generators are very
> > > quiet and not particularly fumey. Generators have their place, but not
> > > just in any old place.
> >
> > Gasoline powered generators are always noisy, stinky and undesirable when camping.
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> So are creepy old nude men.

What if the old nude men are rich Republicans in the sauna at the
country club?

--Bryan

On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:51:16 -0400, wrote:

snip
>
>Have you never had a drink socially without getting drunk? I do so
>regularly, I enjoy a drink with friends, always have but we certainly
>were not drunk. As I said, I enjoyed the side of camping that allowed
>us to meet people/kids we would likely never otherwise have met. It
>was a small part of the fun of camping. As was often lying under the
>stars in a sleeping bag as opposed to going in the tent.
>
snip
Good times. After dark we would rummage in the ice chest and pull out
some ice to dump in our dark-blue, white speckled tin cups and then
pour in a decent amount of whiskey called "Yellowstone" that we picked
up at the park store. Then we'd sit there and stare into the campfire
and drowsily talk now and then. The libation warded off the cold and
made the ground comfy. )
Janet US

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:51:16 -0400, wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>>Have you never had a drink socially without getting drunk? I do so
>>regularly, I enjoy a drink with friends, always have but we certainly
>>were not drunk. As I said, I enjoyed the side of camping that allowed
>>us to meet people/kids we would likely never otherwise have met. It
>>was a small part of the fun of camping. As was often lying under the
>>stars in a sleeping bag as opposed to going in the tent.
>>
> snip
> Good times. After dark we would rummage in the ice chest and pull out
> some ice to dump in our dark-blue, white speckled tin cups and then
> pour in a decent amount of whiskey called "Yellowstone" that we picked
> up at the park store. Then we'd sit there and stare into the campfire
> and drowsily talk now and then. The libation warded off the cold and
> made the ground comfy. )

Ahhh yes, in my youth ... but not now Do you both do that these days?

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 1/21/2016 11:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/21/2016 9:43 AM, Gary wrote:

>> RV's and motels are fine if that's what you want. Just don't call that
>> camping you bunch of spoiled babies. To call it camping is the
>> silliest thing I've ever heard of.
>>
> I don't actually care what they call it. It was merely the thought of
> using a bread machine while "camping" that caught my eye.

It's been a long time since I went camping, and that was a
miserable experience. Snow. Cold. If I didn't care for it
before, that was the end of that.

But we used to go camping on canoe trips. More camping fun, setting
up and breaking down camp every day. Yay. But one time there was
an RV next to our campsite. TVs, air conditioning. And the noise
that thing made all night. I don't know why it was permitted in the
same areas as people trying to sleep in tents.

It's RVing, a perfecting good word, and they should park with other
RVs. I don't blame them, I blame the campground.

Which I am sure some campers would take issue with, being that it
had bathrooms with showers. Not that I minded.

nancy

On 1/22/2016 8:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I had a couple close encounters
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/22/2016 7:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> You can try for a smart
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/21/2016 4:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> ne of our neighbours goes to one of them
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 1/19/2016 6:50 PM, cshenk wrote:
> I do it in dough
Yeah and **** off you worthless ****!

On 1/19/2016 5:48 PM, cshenk wrote:
> I don't use one
Yeah and **** off you worthless ****!

On 1/22/2016 9:51 AM, wrote:
> Have you never had a drink socially


David called, he's waiting for you in HELL and wonders why you're still
sucking air here and being anasty, flinty ****!