"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On 26/1/2016 21:33 Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 26/1/2016 19:41 Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:23:01 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>> On 25/1/2016 08:54 Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On 25/1/2016 08:28 Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you really want to? Heck if she is making good bread ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're right, but I'd want it as a backup plan. Now, the backup
>>>>>>>>> plan
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> supermarket bread in the freezer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Well she could either make extra for the freezer ... or
>>>>>>>> ... gosh you could have an ABM to make those <g>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lol, yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do I take it you love machines which is why your wife gives you 'that'
>>>>>>look
>>>>>>when you want yet another ...???
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not that bad, although we do have an ice cream maker that we
>>>>> rarely use. Oh, and a dehydrator to make tempeh, that I should use
>>>>> more often
>>>>
>>>> Ahh I know what you mean. I haven't used my ice cream machine for so
>>>> long
>>>> ... My dehydrator? Spasmodic! But I do like to know I have them
>>>
>>> Yes, the moment(s) will come!
>>
>> I must admit the dehydrator moment comes more often than the ice cream
>> machine, but the latter is stashed very nicely and the dehydrator is
>> instantly available
>
> The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
> really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
> if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
> pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
> must have a use

I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather use
my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut. He
likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.

As I said, I don't use it too often (not as often as I should) but it
depends on the time of year.





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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Bruce" wrote:
> > The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
> > really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
> > if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
> > pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
> > must have a use
>
> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather use
> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut. He
> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.

I still have an old gas stove with pilot lights. My oven pilot keeps
it the perfect temperature to dehydrate vegetables and also to make
yogurt.

My only normal use (for dehydrating) is when I want to add fresh
tomato slices to a pizza. Fresh sliced get the pizza a bit watery so I
"slightly" dehydrate them before using.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Bruce" wrote:
>> > The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
>> > really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
>> > if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
>> > pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
>> > must have a use
>>
>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather
>> use
>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut.
>> He
>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>
> I still have an old gas stove with pilot lights. My oven pilot keeps
> it the perfect temperature to dehydrate vegetables and also to make
> yogurt.
>
> My only normal use (for dehydrating) is when I want to add fresh
> tomato slices to a pizza. Fresh sliced get the pizza a bit watery so I
> "slightly" dehydrate them before using.

Ahh yes! Yogurt too! Gosh it's a long time since I did that!



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On 26/1/2016 22:35 Ophelia wrote:

> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...

>> On 26/1/2016 21:33 Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> I must admit the dehydrator moment comes more often than the ice cream
>>> machine, but the latter is stashed very nicely and the dehydrator is
>>> instantly available
>>
>> The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
>> really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
>> if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
>> pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
>> must have a use
>
> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather use
> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut. He
> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>
> As I said, I don't use it too often (not as often as I should) but it
> depends on the time of year.

Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
for crumbed fish.

--
Bruce

On 27/1/2016 02:17 Gary wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Bruce" wrote:
>> > The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
>> > really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
>> > if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
>> > pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
>> > must have a use
>>
>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather use
>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut. He
>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>
> I still have an old gas stove with pilot lights. My oven pilot keeps
> it the perfect temperature to dehydrate vegetables and also to make
> yogurt.
>
> My only normal use (for dehydrating) is when I want to add fresh
> tomato slices to a pizza. Fresh sliced get the pizza a bit watery so I
> "slightly" dehydrate them before using.

That's an idea too.

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Bruce

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On 26/1/2016 22:35 Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>> On 26/1/2016 21:33 Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> I must admit the dehydrator moment comes more often than the ice cream
>>>> machine, but the latter is stashed very nicely and the dehydrator is
>>>> instantly available
>>>
>>> The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
>>> really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
>>> if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
>>> pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
>>> must have a use
>>
>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather
>> use
>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut.
>> He
>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>>
>> As I said, I don't use it too often (not as often as I should) but it
>> depends on the time of year.
>
> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
> for crumbed fish.

Experiment a bit. I did that a lot when I first got it but that was a long
time ago. I have dried onions and mushrooms in my store and tried mashed
potato once. It wasn't too bad Hmm I might start to experiment again)


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On 27/1/2016 05:04 Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 26/1/2016 22:35 Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>
>>>> On 26/1/2016 21:33 Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I must admit the dehydrator moment comes more often than the ice cream
>>>>> machine, but the latter is stashed very nicely and the dehydrator is
>>>>> instantly available
>>>>
>>>> The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
>>>> really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
>>>> if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
>>>> pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
>>>> must have a use
>>>
>>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather
>>> use
>>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut.
>>> He
>>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>>>
>>> As I said, I don't use it too often (not as often as I should) but it
>>> depends on the time of year.
>>
>> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
>> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
>> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
>> for crumbed fish.
>
> Experiment a bit. I did that a lot when I first got it but that was a long
> time ago. I have dried onions and mushrooms in my store and tried mashed
> potato once. It wasn't too bad Hmm I might start to experiment again)

Yes, I'll try a few things. I'll start with onions.

--
Bruce

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On 27/1/2016 05:04 Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 26/1/2016 22:35 Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>> On 26/1/2016 21:33 Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I must admit the dehydrator moment comes more often than the ice
>>>>>> cream
>>>>>> machine, but the latter is stashed very nicely and the dehydrator is
>>>>>> instantly available
>>>>>
>>>>> The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
>>>>> if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
>>>>> pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine.
>>>>> It
>>>>> must have a use
>>>>
>>>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>>>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather
>>>> use
>>>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a
>>>> glut.
>>>> He
>>>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I don't use it too often (not as often as I should) but it
>>>> depends on the time of year.
>>>
>>> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
>>> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
>>> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
>>> for crumbed fish.
>>
>> Experiment a bit. I did that a lot when I first got it but that was a
>> long
>> time ago. I have dried onions and mushrooms in my store and tried mashed
>> potato once. It wasn't too bad Hmm I might start to experiment
>> again)
>
> Yes, I'll try a few things. I'll start with onions.

I had chopped mine fairly small and they are great for adding flavour to
stews etc.

If you do try it out, do report back? We might be able to share ideas.


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On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:17:17 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Bruce" wrote:
>> > The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
>> > really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
>> > if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
>> > pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
>> > must have a use
>>
>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather use
>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut. He
>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>
>I still have an old gas stove with pilot lights. My oven pilot keeps
>it the perfect temperature to dehydrate vegetables and also to make
>yogurt.
>
>My only normal use (for dehydrating) is when I want to add fresh
>tomato slices to a pizza. Fresh sliced get the pizza a bit watery so I
>"slightly" dehydrate them before using.

If you're renting and the landlord is supplying a gas stove with pilot
lights that's illegal (every state in the US). Gas stoves with pilot
lights are extremely dangerous.

Sqwertz wrote:
> ObFood:


No one cares!

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:17:17 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> >I still have an old gas stove with pilot lights. My oven pilot keeps
> >it the perfect temperature to dehydrate vegetables and also to make
> >yogurt.
> >
> >My only normal use (for dehydrating) is when I want to add fresh
> >tomato slices to a pizza. Fresh sliced get the pizza a bit watery so I
> >"slightly" dehydrate them before using.
>
> If you're renting and the landlord is supplying a gas stove with pilot
> lights that's illegal (every state in the US). Gas stoves with pilot
> lights are extremely dangerous.

Please support your assertion with links to appropriate ordinances
in every state in the U.S.

I'd settle for one link that covers the jurisdiction where Gary lives.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > If you're renting and the landlord is supplying a gas stove with pilot
> > lights that's illegal (every state in the US). Gas stoves with pilot
> > lights are extremely dangerous.
>
> Please support your assertion with links to appropriate ordinances
> in every state in the U.S.
>
> I'd settle for one link that covers the jurisdiction where Gary lives.

If I asked for a new one (and it's been offered), the new ones have
the electronic ignition and not pilot lights. Grandfather clause
applies though. Can't install new ones with pilot lights but old ones
are still allowed and I like my warm oven feature for....dehydrating
and yogurt.

They are NOT extremely dangerous as Sheldon claims. Only danger is if
they go out and house fills with gas. The natural gas has a "perfume"
added so you always know if a pilot goes out. Bottom line though,
pilots don't go out except for very rare occasions.

Sheldon claims "extremely dangerous." Since 1974, I've lived in 4
different places and all had gas stoves with pilot lights. That's 42
years with stoves with pilot lights. I'm not worried about mine.

A barn full of feral cats is probably more dangerous. hahahaha

On 28/01/2016 2:03 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> If you're renting and the landlord is supplying a gas stove with pilot
>>> lights that's illegal (every state in the US). Gas stoves with pilot
>>> lights are extremely dangerous.
>>
>> Please support your assertion with links to appropriate ordinances
>> in every state in the U.S.
>>
>> I'd settle for one link that covers the jurisdiction where Gary lives.
>
> If I asked for a new one (and it's been offered), the new ones have
> the electronic ignition and not pilot lights. Grandfather clause
> applies though. Can't install new ones with pilot lights but old ones
> are still allowed and I like my warm oven feature for....dehydrating
> and yogurt.
>
> They are NOT extremely dangerous as Sheldon claims. Only danger is if
> they go out and house fills with gas. The natural gas has a "perfume"
> added so you always know if a pilot goes out. Bottom line though,
> pilots don't go out except for very rare occasions.
>
> Sheldon claims "extremely dangerous." Since 1974, I've lived in 4
> different places and all had gas stoves with pilot lights. That's 42
> years with stoves with pilot lights. I'm not worried about mine.

Sheldon appears not to have a clue about pilot lights. The pilot light
has a special gas valve that requires heat to maintain it in an 'open'
status. If the pilot goes out, that valve will shut cutting off gas flow
to the pilot. You know you have one of these if you have a pilot
lighting sequence that requires you to hold the igniter for a time after
the pilot is first lit. That's because the thermocouple needs to be
heated enough by the pilot to maintain gas flow.

Here's a sample pilot lighting sequence;

Relight Sequence:
1. Make sure that all appliance controls are in the “OFF” position
or lowest setting.
2. Locate and open the access door to the pilot if there is one.
3. Make sure the valve is in the “OFF” position.
4. Sniff around the appliance and at floor level to make sure there
is no gas in the area. If you smell gas, do not attempt to light.
5. Turn the manual valve knob to the “PILOT” position (not all the
way to the “ON” position). This allows the gas to flow to the
pilot only (when the knob is pressed down). Do not depress the
manual valve yet. Hold a flame source to the pilot. If the pilot
can be lit without depressing the manual valve, then your valve
may not be working properly.
6. While the knob is in the “PILOT” position, press down on it to
initiate the gas flow to the pilot and immediately light the pilot
using a flame source or the igniter provided as part of the
appliance. Do not release the knob.
7. While the knob is still in the “PILOT” position, keep holding the
knob down for at least 60 seconds. This will allow the
thermocouple to heat up.
8. Remove the external flame source and make sure the pilot remains
lit (flame still present). If the flame is extinguished once the
external flame source is removed, please go back to step 4.
9. Close the access door if there is one.
10. Keep hands and face away from burner area. Turn the manual valve to
the “ON” position.
11. The appliance is now ready to be used

Note item 4. The smell of gas indicates that the pilot light safety
feature is not working and the appliance should not be used.

Item 7 states that a wait of 60 seconds is required, with pilot lit, to
allow the thermocouple to heat up. It's the thermocouple that is the
safety device and if the pilot light goes out, the thermocouple will
cool thereby shutting off the pilot light gas valve. It's a safety
feature that has been on gas appliances for as long as I can recall. I
recall a gas hot water appliance I had some 40 years ago on which the
pilot light would occasionally go out. I observed that the thermocouple
wasn't quite close enough to the pilot flame to remain hot. I noticed
that the pilot light jet had been bent so I bent it back towards the
thermocouple. After that, the thermocouple remained hot enough to keep
the pilot valve open unless manually turned off - problem solved.
>
> A barn full of feral cats is probably more dangerous. hahahaha
>
And they would stink the place up worse than a gas leak anyway! ;-)

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Xeno

On 27/01/2016 4:44 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On 26/1/2016 22:35 Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>> On 26/1/2016 21:33 Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> I must admit the dehydrator moment comes more often than the ice cream
>>>> machine, but the latter is stashed very nicely and the dehydrator is
>>>> instantly available
>>>
>>> The dehydrator isn't really suited for what I bought it for and I can't
>>> really think of any other good uses. Why dehydrate apricots
>>> if you can buy them fresh? Who wants to eat a dehydrated slice of
>>> pineapple? Maybe I'm missing something. It was an expensive machine. It
>>> must have a use
>>
>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather use
>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut. He
>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>>
>> As I said, I don't use it too often (not as often as I should) but it
>> depends on the time of year.
>
> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
> for crumbed fish.
>
Our snake beans are tapering off right now. The string beans are coming
along instead but I didn't plant too many of those this year.

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Xeno

On 28/1/2016 14:58 Xeno wrote:

> On 27/01/2016 4:44 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On 26/1/2016 22:35 Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather use
>>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut. He
>>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>>>
>>> As I said, I don't use it too often (not as often as I should) but it
>>> depends on the time of year.
>>
>> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
>> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
>> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
>> for crumbed fish.
>>
> Our snake beans are tapering off right now. The string beans are coming
> along instead but I didn't plant too many of those this year.

My snake beans have aphid and ant problems, but they still produce more
than we can eat. They're not slowing down yet. I have to try and pick
them 2 to 3 times a week or they'll get too old.

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Bruce

On 28/01/2016 5:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On 28/1/2016 14:58 Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 27/01/2016 4:44 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On 26/1/2016 22:35 Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> I make Jerky for his nibs, I dry bread for crumbs, home grown fruit
>>>> especially because I usually get far to much to eat and I would rather use
>>>> my freezer space for other things, oh and sometimes veg if I have a glut. He
>>>> likes dried fruits to add to breakfast cereal. Stuff like that.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I don't use it too often (not as often as I should) but it
>>>> depends on the time of year.
>>>
>>> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
>>> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
>>> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
>>> for crumbed fish.
>>>
>> Our snake beans are tapering off right now. The string beans are coming
>> along instead but I didn't plant too many of those this year.
>
> My snake beans have aphid and ant problems, but they still produce more
> than we can eat. They're not slowing down yet. I have to try and pick
> them 2 to 3 times a week or they'll get too old.
>
Yes, my wife has been doing the same. Let them go too long and they
don't taste as nice. We have let a few go to seed however.

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Xeno

On 28/1/2016 21:30 Xeno wrote:

> On 28/01/2016 5:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On 28/1/2016 14:58 Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/01/2016 4:44 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
>>>> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
>>>> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
>>>> for crumbed fish.
>>>>
>>> Our snake beans are tapering off right now. The string beans are coming
>>> along instead but I didn't plant too many of those this year.
>>
>> My snake beans have aphid and ant problems, but they still produce more
>> than we can eat. They're not slowing down yet. I have to try and pick
>> them 2 to 3 times a week or they'll get too old.
>>
> Yes, my wife has been doing the same. Let them go too long and they
> don't taste as nice. We have let a few go to seed however.

Keep a few seeds and you won't go hungry next summer Great vegetable.

--
Bruce

On 28/01/2016 9:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On 28/1/2016 21:30 Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 28/01/2016 5:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On 28/1/2016 14:58 Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/01/2016 4:44 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
>>>>> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
>>>>> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
>>>>> for crumbed fish.
>>>>>
>>>> Our snake beans are tapering off right now. The string beans are coming
>>>> along instead but I didn't plant too many of those this year.
>>>
>>> My snake beans have aphid and ant problems, but they still produce more
>>> than we can eat. They're not slowing down yet. I have to try and pick
>>> them 2 to 3 times a week or they'll get too old.
>>>
>> Yes, my wife has been doing the same. Let them go too long and they
>> don't taste as nice. We have let a few go to seed however.
>
> Keep a few seeds and you won't go hungry next summer Great vegetable.
>
My brother sent me over a heap of string bean seeds. We aren't going to
be running out of them any time soon either. In fact, we've been giving
a few handfuls out to friends to plant in their gardens.

As for the snake beans, we've still got a heap from our previous crop. I
wonder how long they will keep for?

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Xeno

On 1/26/2016 4:25 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> is
> total bullshit.
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

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And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

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ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On 28/1/2016 23:54 Xeno wrote:

> On 28/01/2016 9:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On 28/1/2016 21:30 Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/01/2016 5:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On 28/1/2016 14:58 Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/01/2016 4:44 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it might be handy for gluts. We have kilos of snake beans coming
>>>>>> out of the garden at the moment, but they go into the freezer. Maybe
>>>>>> I'll experiment a bit with fruit that's in season. Or a bag of crumbs
>>>>>> for crumbed fish.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Our snake beans are tapering off right now. The string beans are coming
>>>>> along instead but I didn't plant too many of those this year.
>>>>
>>>> My snake beans have aphid and ant problems, but they still produce more
>>>> than we can eat. They're not slowing down yet. I have to try and pick
>>>> them 2 to 3 times a week or they'll get too old.
>>>>
>>> Yes, my wife has been doing the same. Let them go too long and they
>>> don't taste as nice. We have let a few go to seed however.
>>
>> Keep a few seeds and you won't go hungry next summer Great vegetable.
>>
> My brother sent me over a heap of string bean seeds. We aren't going to
> be running out of them any time soon either. In fact, we've been giving
> a few handfuls out to friends to plant in their gardens.
>
> As for the snake beans, we've still got a heap from our previous crop. I
> wonder how long they will keep for?

I find 3 to 5 years on the internet, but I've never waited more than
from season to season.

--
Bruce

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:57:12 +1100, Xeno >
wrote:

>On 28/01/2016 2:03 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> If you're renting and the landlord is supplying a gas stove with pilot
>>>> lights that's illegal (every state in the US). Gas stoves with pilot
>>>> lights are extremely dangerous.
>>>
>>> Please support your assertion with links to appropriate ordinances
>>> in every state in the U.S.
>>>
>>> I'd settle for one link that covers the jurisdiction where Gary lives.
>>
>> If I asked for a new one (and it's been offered), the new ones have
>> the electronic ignition and not pilot lights. Grandfather clause
>> applies though. Can't install new ones with pilot lights but old ones
>> are still allowed and I like my warm oven feature for....dehydrating
>> and yogurt.
>>
>> They are NOT extremely dangerous as Sheldon claims. Only danger is if
>> they go out and house fills with gas. The natural gas has a "perfume"
>> added so you always know if a pilot goes out. Bottom line though,
>> pilots don't go out except for very rare occasions.
>>
>> Sheldon claims "extremely dangerous." Since 1974, I've lived in 4
>> different places and all had gas stoves with pilot lights. That's 42
>> years with stoves with pilot lights. I'm not worried about mine.
>
>Sheldon appears not to have a clue about pilot lights. The pilot light
>has a special gas valve that requires heat to maintain it in an 'open'
>status. If the pilot goes out, that valve will shut cutting off gas flow
>to the pilot. You know you have one of these if you have a pilot
>lighting sequence that requires you to hold the igniter for a time after
>the pilot is first lit. That's because the thermocouple needs to be
>heated enough by the pilot to maintain gas flow.
>
>Here's a sample pilot lighting sequence;
>
>Relight Sequence:
>1. Make sure that all appliance controls are in the “OFF” position
> or lowest setting.
>2. Locate and open the access door to the pilot if there is one.
>3. Make sure the valve is in the “OFF” position.
>4. Sniff around the appliance and at floor level to make sure there
> is no gas in the area. If you smell gas, do not attempt to light.
>5. Turn the manual valve knob to the “PILOT” position (not all the
> way to the “ON” position). This allows the gas to flow to the
> pilot only (when the knob is pressed down). Do not depress the
> manual valve yet. Hold a flame source to the pilot. If the pilot
> can be lit without depressing the manual valve, then your valve
> may not be working properly.
>6. While the knob is in the “PILOT” position, press down on it to
> initiate the gas flow to the pilot and immediately light the pilot
> using a flame source or the igniter provided as part of the
> appliance. Do not release the knob.
>7. While the knob is still in the “PILOT” position, keep holding the
> knob down for at least 60 seconds. This will allow the
> thermocouple to heat up.
>8. Remove the external flame source and make sure the pilot remains
> lit (flame still present). If the flame is extinguished once the
> external flame source is removed, please go back to step 4.
>9. Close the access door if there is one.
>10. Keep hands and face away from burner area. Turn the manual valve to
> the “ON” position.
>11. The appliance is now ready to be used
>
>Note item 4. The smell of gas indicates that the pilot light safety
>feature is not working and the appliance should not be used.
>
>Item 7 states that a wait of 60 seconds is required, with pilot lit, to
>allow the thermocouple to heat up. It's the thermocouple that is the
>safety device and if the pilot light goes out, the thermocouple will
>cool thereby shutting off the pilot light gas valve. It's a safety
>feature that has been on gas appliances for as long as I can recall. I
>recall a gas hot water appliance I had some 40 years ago on which the
>pilot light would occasionally go out. I observed that the thermocouple
>wasn't quite close enough to the pilot flame to remain hot. I noticed
>that the pilot light jet had been bent so I bent it back towards the
>thermocouple. After that, the thermocouple remained hot enough to keep
>the pilot valve open unless manually turned off - problem solved.
>>
>> A barn full of feral cats is probably more dangerous. hahahaha
>>
>And they would stink the place up worse than a gas leak anyway! ;-)

Gas space heaters have that sequence for lighting, I have such a
ventless gas heater in my basement... gas water heaters, gas home
heating boilers, and gas clothes dryers have that feature as well. But
pitifully few cook stoves operate that way, in fact I've never seen
one. I've had several gas stoves with pilot lights and the pilot
light can blow out easily by a draft from opening a window or door...
with all I've encountered the gas to pilot lights keeps flowing until
relit... the sequence is to close the main valve to let any gas clear,
then have a lit match ready while someone opens the valve... lighting
the oven pilot was safer as a two person operation... the top burner
pilots are a lot smaller and much better protected from drafts so
rarely blow out. The pilot light to the oven would go out most often
as it's close to the floor where it's likely to be more drafty, and
slamming the broiler door or oven door can blow out the flame. Many a
person has gotten badly burned from a flashback when lighting the oven
pilot light.

On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 3:09:23 PM UTC-8, Roy wrote:
> One of my neighbors makes bread everyday with his inexpensive bread-machine. The bread is so good that I have just ordered one for myself. Do many of you RFCers use these machines or has the interest in them waned? Just curious.
> ====

i use mine at least once a month, although i used to use it more...

love that fresh warm bread

throw in a little homemade sour dough, cooked potato, herbs, etc
[fun to experiment]

marc