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On 1/22/2016 8:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/22/2016 7:00 PM, Je�us wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:14 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>> > wrote:
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>>> why do people unplug toasters??
>>>
>>> they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
>>>
>>> just toasters

>>
>> They do? News to me.
>>
>>>
>>> I don't get it

>
> I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
> first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
> leaving the house too.


You know my mom? lol My mom unplugs everything. Well more exact, she
uses power strips to plug a bunch of things into then the power strips
are turned off when she's not using the devices. Same with her laptop,
she'll run it on battery all the time and most of the time forgets to
let it charge. And of course she needs to leave the power strip on for
that to happen. I told her the battery is only for when she is mobile
with it (never) or the power is out. Otherwise she should leave it
running on electricity. I don't know where she got it into her head to
run on battery all the time.

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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 1/22/2016 7:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:14 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> why do people unplug toasters??
>>>
>>> they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
>>>
>>> just toasters

>>
>> They do? News to me.
>>
>>>
>>> I don't get it

>
> I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
> first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
> leaving the house too.


That just lets the electricity leak out.


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> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>> On 1/22/2016 7:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:14 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> why do people unplug toasters??
>>>>
>>>> they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
>>>>
>>>> just toasters
>>>
>>> They do? News to me.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't get it

>>
>> I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
>> first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
>> leaving the house too.

>
> That just lets the electricity leak out.


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On 1/23/2016 2:38 PM, taxed and spent wrote:

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>> I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
>> first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
>> leaving the house too.

>
> That just lets the electricity leak out.
>
>


OMG, don't tell her that. She'll put tape over the holes after
pulling the plug.


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On 1/23/2016 3:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/23/2016 2:38 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
>>> I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
>>> first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
>>> leaving the house too.

>> That just lets the electricity leak out.

> OMG, don't tell her that. She'll put tape over the holes after
> pulling the plug.


She needs these -
<http://www.amazon.com/Electrical-Outlet-Covers-Child-Safety/dp/B001K4592Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1453580693&sr=8-2&keywords=child-proof+outlet+cover>
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>coltwvu wrote:
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>> I drink french press coffee so no cord there but I keep the washer and dryer unplugged.

>
>Do you turn off the water to the washer? Broken hoses cause a lot of
>problems.


I do, I have those ball valves, just flip the handle 90º, has those
braided stainless steel hoses too. But I don't unplug electric cords,
I see no reason, electric ain't gonna leak out. I've never had an
electrical problem with a toaster other than eventually they die, they
burn out like a light bulb.
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 09:44:41 -0600, barbie gee >
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>
>On Fri, 22 Jan 2016, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 1/22/2016 7:00 PM, Je???us wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:14 +0000 (UTC),
>>> tert in seattle
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> why do people unplug toasters??
>>>>
>>>> they don't unplug microwaves, electric
>>>> ovens, even toaster ovens
>>>>
>>>> just toasters
>>>
>>> They do? News to me.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't get it

>>
>> I know a lady that unplugs the toaster,
>> coffee maker, microwave, TV, and first
>> thing in the morning even the LED
>> nightlight. Has a ritual before leaving
>> the house too.
>>

>
>People are funny.
>
>Have we had the discussion about "leaving the clothes dryer or washer
>running, when you leave the house", yet? This toaster thing feels similar.


Leaving a clothes dryer running is very different from leaving an
appliance plugged in, leaving a dryer running is dangerous, can have a
deadly lint fire. Leaving a dryer plugged in presents no danger, but
do NOT leave it running. I don't leave my kitchen while my toaster is
toasting... bread can get stuck and prevent the toaster from popping
and shutting off, then can over heat and cause a fire. I also don't
trust plastic toasters, I don't think they should be allowed to be
made, they certainly shouldn't wear a UL label, toasters should have a
steel housing. I have an Oster toaster with a SS housing, it sits on
the counter in a heavy aluminum sheet pan with a piece of aluminum
roof flashing tacked to the underside of the cabinet above. I don't
think it wise to cover a toaster with any kind of flammable cover,
just in case it's accidently activated. I think it smarter to leave
toasters and toaster ovens nakid. Never use an extention cord with
counter top applainces, they are purposely made with short cords to
prevent them being snagged by someone passing or some toddler yanking
the cord, and to prevent over heating from having a longer cord...
before using an extention cord have a licensed electrician survey your
circutry and make necessary repairs.
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 20:33:20 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/22/2016 7:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:14 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> why do people unplug toasters??
>>>
>>> they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
>>>
>>> just toasters

>>
>> They do? News to me.
>>
>>>
>>> I don't get it

>
>I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
>first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
>leaving the house too.


OCD... I had a girlfriend who had to check the stove at least once
before leaving the house.
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 15:26:48 -0500, S Viemeister
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>On 1/23/2016 3:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/23/2016 2:38 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
>>>> I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
>>>> first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
>>>> leaving the house too.
>>> That just lets the electricity leak out.

>> OMG, don't tell her that. She'll put tape over the holes after
>> pulling the plug.

>
>She needs these -
><http://www.amazon.com/Electrical-Outlet-Covers-Child-Safety/dp/B001K4592Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1453580693&sr=8-2&keywords=child-proof+outlet+cover>


How's the snow your way?


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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 20:33:20 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 1/22/2016 7:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:14 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> why do people unplug toasters??
> >>
> >> they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
> >>
> >> just toasters

> >
> > They do? News to me.
> >
> >>
> >> I don't get it

>
> I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
> first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
> leaving the house too.


I had friend who left the house vacuuming. Didn't want to see
footprints in the carpet.

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On 1/23/2016 9:12 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

> Knock wood, the wind has died down. I'm looking at the damage
> as far as snow accumulation, not too bad but we'll be busy tomorrow.
> shoveling.
>
> My town is in state of emergency, for what that's worth. I don't
> know what's going on where you live, but disaster area sounds bad.
> Good luck and I hope your power stays on.
>

I think the local authorities over-reacted, but perhaps conditions are
worse in other parts of town.
Hope your power stays on, too!

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On 24/1/2016 08:38 Je�us wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 20:33:20 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 1/22/2016 7:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:14 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> why do people unplug toasters??
>>>>
>>>> they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
>>>>
>>>> just toasters
>>>
>>> They do? News to me.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't get it

>>
>>I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
>>first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
>>leaving the house too.

>
> OCD... I had a girlfriend who had to check the stove at least once
> before leaving the house.


Sometimes I check the stove before leaving and it's on. Does that mean I
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I haven't checked my mail since Thur, it's at least 150 yrds out there and no cars have broken the snow.
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:54:30 -0000, "Ophelia" >
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>> On our news they were showing the flooding in New Jersey - horrible
>> combo, stay safe hope you are far from the flooding.

>
>It is heading for us now:
>
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...as-way-UK.html


I told you they were saying that a couple of days ago! It supposed to
'brush' us later on today but who knows, the sky looks pretty evil and
heavy so we shall see.


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It's sunny here but just 21 degrees. 46 tomorrow but cloudy.
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Ophelia wrote:
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> "Gary" wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >> It is heading for us now:
> >>
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...as-way-UK.html

> >
> > Good thing you're not camping right now.

>
> Apparently it will be the 'tail end' and certainly the winds predicted are
> not as fierce as those we've had in the past.


Here's an interesting thing. Talking to my daugher about 2 weeks ago,
she was planning to come visit me this weekend. I told her, "Great,
but don't come if the weather gets bad."

AND THEN....here comes this winter storm so she cancelled the trip.
WHEW!

So much good weather here lately and just the two days she was going
to travel, we get a winter storm. Mr.Murphy played a hand in this one.

She got lots of snow where she lives but here, I got lots of rain then
ending with snow. This morning I had to get off about 2" of snow and
ice off my windshield. Nothing horrible here but I was happy that
daughter decided to stay at home and safe. :-D
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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > Ophelia wrote:
>> >> It is heading for us now:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...as-way-UK.html
>> >
>> > Good thing you're not camping right now.

>>
>> Apparently it will be the 'tail end' and certainly the winds predicted
>> are
>> not as fierce as those we've had in the past.

>
> Here's an interesting thing. Talking to my daugher about 2 weeks ago,
> she was planning to come visit me this weekend. I told her, "Great,
> but don't come if the weather gets bad."
>
> AND THEN....here comes this winter storm so she cancelled the trip.
> WHEW!
>
> So much good weather here lately and just the two days she was going
> to travel, we get a winter storm. Mr.Murphy played a hand in this one.
>
> She got lots of snow where she lives but here, I got lots of rain then
> ending with snow. This morning I had to get off about 2" of snow and
> ice off my windshield. Nothing horrible here but I was happy that
> daughter decided to stay at home and safe. :-D


I don't know where you are. Are you in the Eastern Region affected?

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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> Of 30 documented emergency room visits sampled and reported by the
> National Electronic Injury Surveillance System in 2008, the following
> injuries were reportedly caused during the operation or use of a toaster:


> • one injury involved serious contusions from dropping of the unit on a hand


LOL! You have to admit, Ed...that one sounds pretty funny (and baby
complaint)...and they went to the emergency room for that? oh man. I
sure do hope they lost that law suit. I sounds to me like that was all
they were after.

Can you just imagine "Judge Judy" hearing this one? hahahaha
Jury Gary would be equally annoyed with such a friviouls lawsuit.
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On 2016-01-24 11:54 AM, Gary wrote:

>> Apparently it will be the 'tail end' and certainly the winds predicted are
>> not as fierce as those we've had in the past.

>
> Here's an interesting thing. Talking to my daugher about 2 weeks ago,
> she was planning to come visit me this weekend. I told her, "Great,
> but don't come if the weather gets bad."
>
> AND THEN....here comes this winter storm so she cancelled the trip.
> WHEW!
>
> So much good weather here lately and just the two days she was going
> to travel, we get a winter storm. Mr.Murphy played a hand in this one.


There were news reports about a storm that hit the east coast of Canada
last week and disrupted a wedding, The groom was hailed as some sort of
minor hero for leaving the reception to go and push the cars of guests
who got stuck in the parking lot. I suppose that is the very least he
could do for having arranged planned the wedding for the worst season of
the year in a region that is often hit with nasty snow storms.


> She got lots of snow where she lives but here, I got lots of rain then
> ending with snow. This morning I had to get off about 2" of snow and
> ice off my windshield. Nothing horrible here but I was happy that
> daughter decided to stay at home and safe. :-D


Thank goodness that storm stayed to the south of us. Two feet of snow
would have meant a lot of people being late for work.


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> Thank goodness that storm stayed to the south of us. Two feet of snow
> would have meant a lot of people being late for work.


LOL! Two feet of snow in my town would have meant no one goes to work
for about a week. heheh

You live somewhat near a good friend of mine, I think. He lives in
Oakville, Ontario. Is that near you?
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On 2016-01-24 12:33 PM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
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>> Thank goodness that storm stayed to the south of us. Two feet of snow
>> would have meant a lot of people being late for work.

>
> LOL! Two feet of snow in my town would have meant no one goes to work
> for about a week. heheh


We live in climate where we expect to see snow on the ground for most of
the winter. It snows frequently from November through to March,
sometimes even into April. We have highway maintenance yards every 15-20
miles in most areas and each has a number of plow trucks and sanders. As
soon as it starts to snow they send out the salt trucks and after couple
inches of snow they send out the plows, followed by sanders. The
regional and city works trucks are usually combination sander/ plows.

Quite seriously, if we had two feet of snow we would expect people to be
late for work, but most would be expected to try to get in.




> You live somewhat near a good friend of mine, I think. He lives in
> Oakville, Ontario. Is that near you?


I grew up about 5 miles east of there, but now I am on the other side of
the lake.


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On 25/1/2016 03:32 Gary wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
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>> > On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:51:44 -0500, S Viemeister
>> > > wrote:
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>> >>We're well-stocked with food and water, the phones and Kindles are
>> >>charged, as are the external batteries; we have lanterns and
>> >>flashlights; a gas cooker (and matches!), and a gas water heater.
>> >>Also loads of hot-water bottles and some thick down duvets.
>> >>If the power goes, we'll be okay for a while.
>> >>The last major outage we had lasted 5 days...
>> >
>> > On our news they were showing the flooding in New Jersey - horrible
>> > combo, stay safe hope you are far from the flooding.

>>
>> It is heading for us now:
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...as-way-UK.html

>
> Good thing you're not camping right now.


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On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 10:00:04 AM UTC-10, tert in seattle wrote:
> why do people unplug toasters??
>
> they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
>
> just toasters
>
> I don't get it


Many manuals recommend that the small appliance be unplugged when not in use. I've never felt the need but some people do. Mostly, they are of an older generation of appliance users. The reason small appliance manuals will state this is because appliance companies find it desirable to cover their asses every chance they get i.e., they ain't stupid.
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:56:15 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
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>On 24/1/2016 08:38 Je�us wrote:
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>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 20:33:20 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>>On 1/22/2016 7:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:14 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> why do people unplug toasters??
>>>>>
>>>>> they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
>>>>>
>>>>> just toasters
>>>>
>>>> They do? News to me.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get it
>>>
>>>I know a lady that unplugs the toaster, coffee maker, microwave, TV, and
>>>first thing in the morning even the LED nightlight. Has a ritual before
>>>leaving the house too.

>>
>> OCD... I had a girlfriend who had to check the stove at least once
>> before leaving the house.

>
>Sometimes I check the stove before leaving and it's on. Does that mean I
>don't have OCD?


Yes, probably a hangover or alzheimers.
Or somebody else is using it
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:38:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
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> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 10:00:04 AM UTC-10, tert in seattle wrote:
> > why do people unplug toasters??
> >
> > they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
> >
> > just toasters
> >
> > I don't get it

>
> Many manuals recommend that the small appliance be unplugged when not in use. I've never felt the need but some people do. Mostly, they are of an older generation of appliance users. The reason small appliance manuals will state this is because appliance companies find it desirable to cover their asses every chance they get i.e., they ain't stupid.


Classic CYA. Build a better toaster!

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On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 11:16:44 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:38:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <>
> wrote:
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> > On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 10:00:04 AM UTC-10, tert in seattle wrote:
> > > why do people unplug toasters??
> > >
> > > they don't unplug microwaves, electric ovens, even toaster ovens
> > >
> > > just toasters
> > >
> > > I don't get it

> >
> > Many manuals recommend that the small appliance be unplugged when not in use. I've never felt the need but some people do. Mostly, they are of an older generation of appliance users. The reason small appliance manuals will state this is because appliance companies find it desirable to cover their asses every chance they get i.e., they ain't stupid.

>
> Classic CYA. Build a better toaster!
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Understanding the cover your ass mentality of companies gives you a better understanding of their recommended usage of their products.
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Sf, my house was built in 1969, and I,chose one of those adjustable lights
for over the kitchen table, too, thinking it would be handy for the kids doing
homework at the table. But we seldom moved it down, so I had it affixed
permanently in an "up" position. When I remodeled the kitchen, I had can lights put in.
I think those pull-downs were a 60s-70s thing.

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