Janet wrote:
> In UK, the patient themself, while they are mentally competent, can
> lodge a legally binding medical directive refusing named end-of-life
> treatments

Yawn....

Hurry up and die.

Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> My previous dogs are sitting in boxes on my fireplace. If our wishes are
>> respected their ashes will be scattered with ours.
>
> That's very cool. I've told my daughter to have me creamated then
> scatter my ashes in the nice clearing in the woods were all my beloved
> ferrets are buried. I don't think you can legally do that but she
> could always do it "off the record."
>
> http://i43.tinypic.com/157iuyc.jpg
>

That's Jimmy Hoffa's burial mound.

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:08:11 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> My previous dogs are sitting in boxes on my fireplace. If our wishes are
>> respected their ashes will be scattered with ours.
>
>That's very cool. I've told my daughter to have me creamated then
>scatter my ashes in the nice clearing in the woods were all my beloved
>ferrets are buried. I don't think you can legally do that but she
>could always do it "off the record."
>
>http://i43.tinypic.com/157iuyc.jpg

I don't think you can 'legally' do it here either, but people do and
how is the law going to get after them? They should be thankful
someone doesn't want to take up space when dead

Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
:

> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
more
> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
> misses you so much".
>


My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
lonely.

--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

"KenK" > wrote in message
...
> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
> :
>
>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
> more
>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>> misses you so much".
>>
>
>
> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
> lonely.

Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals? You
could give another poor wee cat a loving home and yourself the pleasure of
the company? I haven't got over losing my last dog yet, but unusually, I
got another rescue fairly quickly. Although I am still feeling the loss of
Bonnie, my new girl Poppy is helping me. At least my previous dogs had
good lives with me which perhaps they wouldn't have had. Something to think
about? Good luck if you do and report back



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "KenK" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>> :
>>
>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>> more
>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>> misses you so much".
>>>
>>
>>
>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>> lonely.
>
> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals? You
> could give another poor wee cat a loving home and yourself the pleasure of
> the company? I haven't got over losing my last dog yet, but unusually, I
> got another rescue fairly quickly. Although I am still feeling the loss
> of Bonnie, my new girl Poppy is helping me. At least my previous dogs
> had good lives with me which perhaps they wouldn't have had. Something to
> think about? Good luck if you do and report back

True, our second rescue was 3 days from being put down when Animal Friends
Connection rescued her, every time I think about it, it hurts me to think
that she was that close since she is a wonderful dog and has a great life
going with us, as I'm sure Poppy does with you and himself. I always say no
more, but who knows.

Cheri

On 25 Jan 2016 16:49:49 GMT, KenK > wrote:

>Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
:
>
>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>more
>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>> misses you so much".
>>
>
>
>My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>lonely.

Do it! There are so many unfortunate cats that need homes - it's
unfortunate we last longer but no pain no gain.

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:44:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>> :
>>>
>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>> more
>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>> lonely.
>>
>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals? You
>> could give another poor wee cat a loving home and yourself the pleasure of
>> the company? I haven't got over losing my last dog yet, but unusually, I
>> got another rescue fairly quickly. Although I am still feeling the loss
>> of Bonnie, my new girl Poppy is helping me. At least my previous dogs
>> had good lives with me which perhaps they wouldn't have had. Something to
>> think about? Good luck if you do and report back
>
>True, our second rescue was 3 days from being put down when Animal Friends
>Connection rescued her, every time I think about it, it hurts me to think
>that she was that close since she is a wonderful dog and has a great life
>going with us, as I'm sure Poppy does with you and himself. I always say no
>more, but who knows.
>
>Cheri

A friend in this building took on a little dog that was destined to go
the next day, she would rather have had a younger dog as this one is
around 9 and heartbreak will come again sooner, but he is the
loveliest little thing. Part chihuahua and part wire haired terrier.
He looks like a chihauhua with stand up ears but covered in long grey
and white wire haired fur. Sort of a miniature wolf

On 25/01/2016 11:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "KenK" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>> :
>>
>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>> more
>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>> misses you so much".
>>>
>>
>>
>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>> lonely.
>
> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?

But NOT those muts and moggies from other countries!!!
Graham

--
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid
people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."
-John Stuart Mill

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:34:43 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 25/01/2016 11:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>> :
>>>
>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>> more
>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>> lonely.
>>
>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?
>
>But NOT those muts and moggies from other countries!!!
>Graham

So what freak adopted you, Graham?

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>> :
>>>
>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>> more
>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>> lonely.
>>
>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?
>> You could give another poor wee cat a loving home and yourself the
>> pleasure of the company? I haven't got over losing my last dog yet, but
>> unusually, I got another rescue fairly quickly. Although I am still
>> feeling the loss of Bonnie, my new girl Poppy is helping me. At least
>> my previous dogs had good lives with me which perhaps they wouldn't have
>> had. Something to think about? Good luck if you do and report back
>
> True, our second rescue was 3 days from being put down when Animal Friends
> Connection rescued her, every time I think about it, it hurts me to think
> that she was that close since she is a wonderful dog and has a great life
> going with us, as I'm sure Poppy does with you and himself. I always say
> no more, but who knows.

Your girl is very lucky you found her

We were very lucky with Blue. We got her when she was 10 yo and we had her
until she died at 17 yo. That was very hard and it took over year before I
could go back to the rescue centre. When our Bonnie died I was determined
not to let it go so long. It was hard but I forced myself to go to the
centre after a few weeks. It was too soon. Of course there were some
lovely dogs there but none was my Bonnie and I just cried. Instead of
going to the centre after than I just looked online on their website and saw
Poppy. She was in a bad state and I just had to go and get her. She is the
youngest we have had, around 6/7 yo so hopefully we will have her a lot
longer.

So no, never say no more I do hope Ken takes his courage in his hands and
finds another lost soul to love.


--
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"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 25/01/2016 11:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>> :
>>>
>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>> more
>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>> lonely.
>>
>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?
>
> But NOT those muts and moggies from other countries!!!

We have plenty lost souls here to take care of. We don't need to look
elsewhere. I do hope people in their own countries will look after those
poor souls.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:44:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>>> more
>>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times.
>>>> I've
>>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>>> lonely.
>>>
>>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?
>>> You
>>> could give another poor wee cat a loving home and yourself the pleasure
>>> of
>>> the company? I haven't got over losing my last dog yet, but unusually,
>>> I
>>> got another rescue fairly quickly. Although I am still feeling the loss
>>> of Bonnie, my new girl Poppy is helping me. At least my previous dogs
>>> had good lives with me which perhaps they wouldn't have had. Something
>>> to
>>> think about? Good luck if you do and report back
>>
>>True, our second rescue was 3 days from being put down when Animal Friends
>>Connection rescued her, every time I think about it, it hurts me to think
>>that she was that close since she is a wonderful dog and has a great life
>>going with us, as I'm sure Poppy does with you and himself. I always say
>>no
>>more, but who knows.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> A friend in this building took on a little dog that was destined to go
> the next day, she would rather have had a younger dog as this one is
> around 9 and heartbreak will come again sooner, but he is the
> loveliest little thing. Part chihuahua and part wire haired terrier.
> He looks like a chihauhua with stand up ears but covered in long grey
> and white wire haired fur. Sort of a miniature wolf

Yes, our is a rat terrier, no spring chicken, but a great little girl.

Cheri

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:57:56 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>>> more
>>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>>> lonely.
>>>
>>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?
>>> You could give another poor wee cat a loving home and yourself the
>>> pleasure of the company? I haven't got over losing my last dog yet, but
>>> unusually, I got another rescue fairly quickly. Although I am still
>>> feeling the loss of Bonnie, my new girl Poppy is helping me. At least
>>> my previous dogs had good lives with me which perhaps they wouldn't have
>>> had. Something to think about? Good luck if you do and report back
>>
>> True, our second rescue was 3 days from being put down when Animal Friends
>> Connection rescued her, every time I think about it, it hurts me to think
>> that she was that close since she is a wonderful dog and has a great life
>> going with us, as I'm sure Poppy does with you and himself. I always say
>> no more, but who knows.
>
>Your girl is very lucky you found her
>
>We were very lucky with Blue. We got her when she was 10 yo and we had her
>until she died at 17 yo. That was very hard and it took over year before I
>could go back to the rescue centre. When our Bonnie died I was determined
>not to let it go so long. It was hard but I forced myself to go to the
>centre after a few weeks. It was too soon. Of course there were some
>lovely dogs there but none was my Bonnie and I just cried. Instead of
>going to the centre after than I just looked online on their website and saw
>Poppy. She was in a bad state and I just had to go and get her. She is the
>youngest we have had, around 6/7 yo so hopefully we will have her a lot
>longer.
>
>So no, never say no more I do hope Ken takes his courage in his hands and
>finds another lost soul to love.

So do I !

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:59:31 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"graham" > wrote in message
...
>> On 25/01/2016 11:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>>> more
>>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>>> lonely.
>>>
>>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?
>>
>> But NOT those muts and moggies from other countries!!!
>
>We have plenty lost souls here to take care of. We don't need to look
>elsewhere. I do hope people in their own countries will look after those
>poor souls.

I know where Graham is coming from - some stupid woman imported 40
dogs from California!!!!! We have our own dogs looking for homes and
they should come first. She received plenty of criticism, if she does
do it again, doubt she'll be advertising it. I can just about see
rescue Greyhounds, but nothing more.

On 25/01/2016 4:01 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:59:31 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 25/01/2016 11:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
>>>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>>>> more
>>>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
>>>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
>>>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>>>> lonely.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?
>>>
>>> But NOT those muts and moggies from other countries!!!
>>
>> We have plenty lost souls here to take care of. We don't need to look
>> elsewhere. I do hope people in their own countries will look after those
>> poor souls.
>
> I know where Graham is coming from - some stupid woman imported 40
> dogs from California!!!!! We have our own dogs looking for homes and
> they should come first. She received plenty of criticism, if she does
> do it again, doubt she'll be advertising it. I can just about see
> rescue Greyhounds, but nothing more.
>

She was rescuing pitbulls from a shelter's "death row" and bringing them
back to Canada!!!!!!!
My physio has a rescue dog from Mexico FFS!

--
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid
people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."
-John Stuart Mill

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:17:30 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:
i
>>
>> A friend in this building took on a little dog that was destined to go
>> the next day, she would rather have had a younger dog as this one is
>> around 9 and heartbreak will come again sooner, but he is the
>> loveliest little thing. Part chihuahua and part wire haired terrier.
>> He looks like a chihauhua with stand up ears but covered in long grey
>> and white wire haired fur. Sort of a miniature wolf
>
>Yes, our is a rat terrier, no spring chicken, but a great little girl.
>
>Cheri

Is she a Chihuahua mix like him? He's a lovely little dog, sit on the
sofa and he cuddles up next to you, we reckon he belonged to someone
elderly and something happened for him to be out on the street. She
had to cut his nails they were so long, but these days he walks enough
they're fine.

On 2016-01-25 6:14 PM, graham wrote:

> She was rescuing pitbulls from a shelter's "death row" and bringing them
> back to Canada!!!!!!!

Pit bulls are banned in Ontario. Thanks to a law passed about 10 yeara
go, you can't buy one here, breed them or import them. Existing pit
bulls have to be on a leash and muzzled in public. Curiously, the
daughter of a friend of mine adopted a pit bull from the Humane Society.
It had been a rescue from the US.

It is interesting to that the Humane Society is contracted to enforce
livestock and pet related laws and bylaws but seems to have exempted
itself from those same laws. It should not surprise me. A few years ago
the dog catcher came by to sell me licences for my dogs. He may generate
enough revenue going door to door selling the licenses. While he was
here selling me licences, the neighbour's two pit bulls were running
around his van. He did nothing about them.

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:14:48 -0700, graham > wrote:

>>
>> I know where Graham is coming from - some stupid woman imported 40
>> dogs from California!!!!! We have our own dogs looking for homes and
>> they should come first. She received plenty of criticism, if she does
>> do it again, doubt she'll be advertising it. I can just about see
>> rescue Greyhounds, but nothing more.
>>
>
>She was rescuing pitbulls from a shelter's "death row" and bringing them
>back to Canada!!!!!!!
>My physio has a rescue dog from Mexico FFS!

That's the one! Crazy bitch.

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 3:53:07 PM UTC-6, Cheryl wrote:
> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if he
> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed more
> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and I
> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
> misses you so much".
>
> --
> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
> Cheryl

am very sorry, I know too well how difficult it is to put down a good friend. But when yu really ove them you do the best yu can do for them. I currently have two rescues, one a getting older female and the other a 5 month old kitten, who is in heat!! She is scheduled to be spayed on Feb 5.Very sorry you lost your little friend.

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:57:56 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Cheryl > wrote in news:56a3f63b$0$9208$c3e8da3
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> A few here know about this but my oldest cat had to be laid to rest
>>>>>> yesterday. On Thursday he was acting not himself and by around 2am he
>>>>>> was struggling to breathe so we went off to emergency. I had to leave
>>>>>> him, but long story short, by morning he'd gotten much worse and if
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> wasn't on oxygen he struggled. Vet at first thought congenital heart
>>>>>> failure but after xrays wasn't sure if it was his heart or his lungs
>>>>>> because both were suspect. After the radiologist came in she said to
>>>>>> rule out heart failure and try to treat his lung disease she needed
>>>>> more
>>>>>> tests. In the meantime he was going downhill because oxygen and Lasix
>>>>>> wasn't helping. I had to make a decision quickly which way to go and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> decided to end the suffering. He was only 15. He has left a
>>>>>> Shamrock-shaped hole in my heart. "Goodbye good boy, mommy already
>>>>>> misses you so much".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times.
>>>>> I've
>>>>> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
>>>>> lonely.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I know very well how hard it is, but think about rescue animals?
>>>> You could give another poor wee cat a loving home and yourself the
>>>> pleasure of the company? I haven't got over losing my last dog yet,
>>>> but
>>>> unusually, I got another rescue fairly quickly. Although I am still
>>>> feeling the loss of Bonnie, my new girl Poppy is helping me. At least
>>>> my previous dogs had good lives with me which perhaps they wouldn't
>>>> have
>>>> had. Something to think about? Good luck if you do and report back
>>>
>>> True, our second rescue was 3 days from being put down when Animal
>>> Friends
>>> Connection rescued her, every time I think about it, it hurts me to
>>> think
>>> that she was that close since she is a wonderful dog and has a great
>>> life
>>> going with us, as I'm sure Poppy does with you and himself. I always say
>>> no more, but who knows.
>>
>>Your girl is very lucky you found her
>>
>>We were very lucky with Blue. We got her when she was 10 yo and we had
>>her
>>until she died at 17 yo. That was very hard and it took over year before
>>I
>>could go back to the rescue centre. When our Bonnie died I was determined
>>not to let it go so long. It was hard but I forced myself to go to the
>>centre after a few weeks. It was too soon. Of course there were some
>>lovely dogs there but none was my Bonnie and I just cried. Instead of
>>going to the centre after than I just looked online on their website and
>>saw
>>Poppy. She was in a bad state and I just had to go and get her. She is
>>the
>>youngest we have had, around 6/7 yo so hopefully we will have her a lot
>>longer.
>>
>>So no, never say no more I do hope Ken takes his courage in his hands
>>and
>>finds another lost soul to love.
>
> So do I !

I feel there is no soul in our house without a dog. I need those girls as
much as they need me.

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> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:17:30 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
> i
>>>
>>> A friend in this building took on a little dog that was destined to go
>>> the next day, she would rather have had a younger dog as this one is
>>> around 9 and heartbreak will come again sooner, but he is the
>>> loveliest little thing. Part chihuahua and part wire haired terrier.
>>> He looks like a chihauhua with stand up ears but covered in long grey
>>> and white wire haired fur. Sort of a miniature wolf
>>
>>Yes, our is a rat terrier, no spring chicken, but a great little girl.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Is she a Chihuahua mix like him? He's a lovely little dog, sit on the
> sofa and he cuddles up next to you, we reckon he belonged to someone
> elderly and something happened for him to be out on the street. She
> had to cut his nails they were so long, but these days he walks enough
> they're fine.

No, she's a rat terrier, about 19 pounds.

Cheri

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:17:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:17:30 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>> i
>>>>
>>>> A friend in this building took on a little dog that was destined to go
>>>> the next day, she would rather have had a younger dog as this one is
>>>> around 9 and heartbreak will come again sooner, but he is the
>>>> loveliest little thing. Part chihuahua and part wire haired terrier.
>>>> He looks like a chihauhua with stand up ears but covered in long grey
>>>> and white wire haired fur. Sort of a miniature wolf
>>>
>>>Yes, our is a rat terrier, no spring chicken, but a great little girl.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> Is she a Chihuahua mix like him? He's a lovely little dog, sit on the
>> sofa and he cuddles up next to you, we reckon he belonged to someone
>> elderly and something happened for him to be out on the street. She
>> had to cut his nails they were so long, but these days he walks enough
>> they're fine.
>
>No, she's a rat terrier, about 19 pounds.
>
>Cheri

I must look them up, don't know them, the little guy here is maybe
only about 6 pounds.

> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:17:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:17:30 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>> i
>>>>>
>>>>> A friend in this building took on a little dog that was destined to go
>>>>> the next day, she would rather have had a younger dog as this one is
>>>>> around 9 and heartbreak will come again sooner, but he is the
>>>>> loveliest little thing. Part chihuahua and part wire haired terrier.
>>>>> He looks like a chihauhua with stand up ears but covered in long grey
>>>>> and white wire haired fur. Sort of a miniature wolf
>>>>
>>>>Yes, our is a rat terrier, no spring chicken, but a great little girl.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> Is she a Chihuahua mix like him? He's a lovely little dog, sit on the
>>> sofa and he cuddles up next to you, we reckon he belonged to someone
>>> elderly and something happened for him to be out on the street. She
>>> had to cut his nails they were so long, but these days he walks enough
>>> they're fine.
>>
>>No, she's a rat terrier, about 19 pounds.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> I must look them up, don't know them, the little guy here is maybe
> only about 6 pounds.

My internet is messed up on this computer so I won't post a link, but she is
the black and white type rat terrier.

Cheri

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:35:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:17:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:17:30 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> i
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A friend in this building took on a little dog that was destined to go
>>>>>> the next day, she would rather have had a younger dog as this one is
>>>>>> around 9 and heartbreak will come again sooner, but he is the
>>>>>> loveliest little thing. Part chihuahua and part wire haired terrier.
>>>>>> He looks like a chihauhua with stand up ears but covered in long grey
>>>>>> and white wire haired fur. Sort of a miniature wolf
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, our is a rat terrier, no spring chicken, but a great little girl.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheri
>>>>
>>>> Is she a Chihuahua mix like him? He's a lovely little dog, sit on the
>>>> sofa and he cuddles up next to you, we reckon he belonged to someone
>>>> elderly and something happened for him to be out on the street. She
>>>> had to cut his nails they were so long, but these days he walks enough
>>>> they're fine.
>>>
>>>No, she's a rat terrier, about 19 pounds.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> I must look them up, don't know them, the little guy here is maybe
>> only about 6 pounds.
>
>My internet is messed up on this computer so I won't post a link, but she is
>the black and white type rat terrier.
>
>Cheri

I looked them up, they said very sociable but it isn't what this one
is, I think the SPCA were correct in a cross Chihuahua with wire
haired.

I see Rat Terriers are a NA breed which is probably why I didn't know
them. Light years ago I had a wire-haired terrier and he was quite
the devil if things didn't go his way

wrote:
> I looked them up, they said very sociable

With any luck it'd tear your rich biotch throat out...

Hi Cheryl

I few days ago I read about the loss of your precious Shamrock.I am so sorry for the pain of your loss. It is so very hard to say good bye. I hope as time passes the tears will lessen and the love and beautiful memories will shine thru.

On January 3rd we lost our cat, Delilah. She was just 4 months shy of her 20th birthday. I feel like a bit of my soul is gone. She had her every 6 month wellness check a few days before Thanksgiving and was proclaimed in very good health. She had a good day on the Sunday she left us. She ate normally in the morning, then she played with one of her felt mice She curled up in her heated cat bed to nap and a couple hours later she was gone.



Our Veterinarian suspects her tiny heart gave out. We had her cremated and her ashes are in a box with the other pets we have loved and lost. One day when my husband and I are gone we will all be laid to rest together. Our son's, daughters in law and older grandkids know our wishes...

Anyway, I wanted to let you know you have been in my thoughts. I have lurked here since 1989. This is the first time I have posted.

Last week I had a friend take me to a shelter to adopt a new rescue. I was planning to adopt a kitten, but a grey and white beauty caught my eye. So she came home with me. She is about 15 months old and adorable. She gets on well with our dogs. Although I miss my tiny Delilah, Lena has quickly stolen our hearts. We live in the city so she will be an indoor cat, as both of our other cats were. I still cry everyday missing Delilah, but to me a house is not a home without cats and dogs.

Cheryl, it will get easier. My dogs are getting older. I just try not to think about it. please know stranger in S.E. Michigan thinks of you often and hopes your pain lessens quickly. I don't think that you have a Shamrock space/hole in your heart. I think you have a big Shamrock sized ball of love there. Someone once told me we would not feel the pain of the loss so terribly if we did not share such unconditional love and a bond so damn strong.

Sending you a hug and hoping the days get easier soon...

A.Bear

> wrote in message
...
> Hi Cheryl
>
> I few days ago I read about the loss of your precious Shamrock.I am so
> sorry for the pain of your loss. It is so very hard to say good bye. I
> hope as time passes the tears will lessen and the love and beautiful
> memories will shine thru.
>
> On January 3rd we lost our cat, Delilah. She was just 4 months shy of her
> 20th birthday. I feel like a bit of my soul is gone. She had her every 6
> month wellness check a few days before Thanksgiving and was proclaimed in
> very good health. She had a good day on the Sunday she left us. She ate
> normally in the morning, then she played with one of her felt mice She
> curled up in her heated cat bed to nap and a couple hours later she was
> gone.
>
>
>
> Our Veterinarian suspects her tiny heart gave out. We had her cremated and
> her ashes are in a box with the other pets we have loved and lost. One day
> when my husband and I are gone we will all be laid to rest together. Our
> son's, daughters in law and older grandkids know our wishes...
>
> Anyway, I wanted to let you know you have been in my thoughts. I have
> lurked here since 1989. This is the first time I have posted.
>
> Last week I had a friend take me to a shelter to adopt a new rescue. I was
> planning to adopt a kitten, but a grey and white beauty caught my eye. So
> she came home with me. She is about 15 months old and adorable. She gets
> on well with our dogs. Although I miss my tiny Delilah, Lena has quickly
> stolen our hearts. We live in the city so she will be an indoor cat, as
> both of our other cats were. I still cry everyday missing Delilah, but to
> me a house is not a home without cats and dogs.
>
> Cheryl, it will get easier. My dogs are getting older. I just try not to
> think about it. please know stranger in S.E. Michigan thinks of you
> often and hopes your pain lessens quickly. I don't think that you have a
> Shamrock space/hole in your heart. I think you have a big Shamrock sized
> ball of love there. Someone once told me we would not feel the pain of the
> loss so terribly if we did not share such unconditional love and a bond so
> damn strong.
>
> Sending you a hug and hoping the days get easier soon...
>
> A.Bear


Hello and welcome. Your post was lovely and I am sure Cheryl will
appreciate it

I have to say, it has helped me too. Thank you.






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On 1/25/2016 11:49 AM, KenK wrote:
> My condolences. Unfortunately, I've been though that several times. I've
> gotten so I'm afraid to get another cat and go though it again. I'm
> lonely.

Ken, I know how hard it is to think about losing another one. I had no
intention of getting another cat after Persia died. Fate intervened,
however, when Buffy's owner died. I took her in (she's about 6 or 7)
and I am very glad I did! She's a total love bug. Please do consider
adopting one from a local shelter. There are so many animals in need of
a home.

Jill

Ophelia wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Cheryl
> >
> > I few days ago I read about the loss of your precious Shamrock.I am so
> > sorry for the pain of your loss. It is so very hard to say good bye. I
> > hope as time passes the tears will lessen and the love and beautiful
> > memories will shine thru.
> >
> > On January 3rd we lost our cat, Delilah. She was just 4 months shy of her
> > 20th birthday. I feel like a bit of my soul is gone. She had her every 6
> > month wellness check a few days before Thanksgiving and was proclaimed in
> > very good health. She had a good day on the Sunday she left us. She ate
> > normally in the morning, then she played with one of her felt mice She
> > curled up in her heated cat bed to nap and a couple hours later she was
> > gone.
> >
> >
> >
> > Our Veterinarian suspects her tiny heart gave out. We had her cremated and
> > her ashes are in a box with the other pets we have loved and lost. One day
> > when my husband and I are gone we will all be laid to rest together. Our
> > son's, daughters in law and older grandkids know our wishes...
> >
> > Anyway, I wanted to let you know you have been in my thoughts. I have
> > lurked here since 1989. This is the first time I have posted.
> >
> > Last week I had a friend take me to a shelter to adopt a new rescue. I was
> > planning to adopt a kitten, but a grey and white beauty caught my eye. So
> > she came home with me. She is about 15 months old and adorable. She gets
> > on well with our dogs. Although I miss my tiny Delilah, Lena has quickly
> > stolen our hearts. We live in the city so she will be an indoor cat, as
> > both of our other cats were. I still cry everyday missing Delilah, but to
> > me a house is not a home without cats and dogs.
> >
> > Cheryl, it will get easier. My dogs are getting older. I just try not to
> > think about it. please know stranger in S.E. Michigan thinks of you
> > often and hopes your pain lessens quickly. I don't think that you have a
> > Shamrock space/hole in your heart. I think you have a big Shamrock sized
> > ball of love there. Someone once told me we would not feel the pain of the
> > loss so terribly if we did not share such unconditional love and a bond so
> > damn strong.
> >
> > Sending you a hug and hoping the days get easier soon...
> >
> > A.Bear
>
>
> Hello and welcome. Your post was lovely and I am sure Cheryl will
> appreciate it
>
> I have to say, it has helped me too. Thank you.

"I approve of this post" ;-)


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On 1/27/2016 1:27 AM, wrote:

> Hi Cheryl
>
> I few days ago I read about the loss of your precious Shamrock.I am
> so sorry for the pain of your loss. It is so very hard to say good
> bye. I hope as time passes the tears will lessen and the love and
> beautiful memories will shine thru.
>
> On January 3rd we lost our cat, Delilah. She was just 4 months shy of
> her 20th birthday. I feel like a bit of my soul is gone. She had her
> every 6 month wellness check a few days before Thanksgiving and was
> proclaimed in very good health. She had a good day on the Sunday she
> left us. She ate normally in the morning, then she played with one of
> her felt mice She curled up in her heated cat bed to nap and a couple
> hours later she was gone.
>
>
>
> Our Veterinarian suspects her tiny heart gave out. We had her
> cremated and her ashes are in a box with the other pets we have loved
> and lost. One day when my husband and I are gone we will all be laid
> to rest together. Our son's, daughters in law and older grandkids
> know our wishes...
>
> Anyway, I wanted to let you know you have been in my thoughts. I have
> lurked here since 1989. This is the first time I have posted.
>
> Last week I had a friend take me to a shelter to adopt a new rescue.
> I was planning to adopt a kitten, but a grey and white beauty caught
> my eye. So she came home with me. She is about 15 months old and
> adorable. She gets on well with our dogs. Although I miss my tiny
> Delilah, Lena has quickly stolen our hearts. We live in the city so
> she will be an indoor cat, as both of our other cats were. I still
> cry everyday missing Delilah, but to me a house is not a home without
> cats and dogs.
>
> Cheryl, it will get easier. My dogs are getting older. I just try not
> to think about it. please know stranger in S.E. Michigan thinks of
> you often and hopes your pain lessens quickly. I don't think that you
> have a Shamrock space/hole in your heart. I think you have a big
> Shamrock sized ball of love there. Someone once told me we would not
> feel the pain of the loss so terribly if we did not share such
> unconditional love and a bond so damn strong.
>
> Sending you a hug and hoping the days get easier soon...
>
> A.Bear
>

Hello Bear, I'm glad you shared even if you've been silent all this
time. I'm honored you too the time to send me condolences. I hope to
read more from you. I'm so sorry to read about Delilah. She had a
long life with you! Best wishes with the new furbaby Lena!

Best,

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Cheryl