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On 4/11/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
> maybe you
> should check that out?


Maybe you should **** off outta here.
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On 4/11/2016 2:50 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 4/10/2016 1:10 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 09:45:29 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I spend 4 days in ICU and another 3 nights in the hospital. I was billed
>>>>> nothing for all that.
>>>>
>>>> My God. If that was in the USA, you would face a bill of (just
>>>> guessing) over $20K.
>>>>
>>>> That night 7.5 years ago that I had severe asthma and was stuck
>>>> sitting on the toilet all night - very labored breathing and even a 7
>>>> step walk to the phone to call for help would have killed me. After
>>>> spending about 8 hours on the damn toilet with very labored breathing
>>>> all night, I was finally healed enough to get up, dressed, and I drove
>>>> to a "minor emergency clinic." Very labored breathing even for that.
>>>>
>>>> As soon as they heard that I had no insurance, they treated me quite
>>>> shabbily (imo). They didn't want me there and acted like I was some
>>>> bum off the street after free medical care. I was told that the doctor
>>>> was running a bit late and I should go to the emergency room.
>>>
>>> A clinic would not have told you to drive to the ER, they would have
>>> called an ambulance.
>>>

>> Not if he was capable of driving.
>>
>> My neighbor went to an urgent care clinic last year. They quickly
>> diagnosed her with an embolism/blood clot in her leg which could have
>> traveled to her heart/lungs. She was perfectly rational and capable of
>> driving a few miles further to hospital.

>
> At any moment, the clot might have moved to her lung and caused her to
> pass out at the wheel.
>
> Janet Uk
>
>

I'm sure if they'd assessed imminent danger they'd have called an ambulance.

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On 4/11/2016 3:25 PM, wrote:
> Oh I realise that, but maybe there are some problems



http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/dead-shrew-14075568.jpg


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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:58:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> "Jeßus" wrote:
> >
> > I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
> > still a long, long way off yet.

>
> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
> because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>
> It's not a fashion show.


Hopefully most Americans have that frame of mind. Who cares what an
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:22:18 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:58:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >"Jeßus" wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
> >> still a long, long way off yet.

> >
> >I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
> >because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
> >
> >It's not a fashion show.

>
> Anything causes a fuss. When Kennedy was running, because he was
> Catholic, it was said that to vote for him meant that the Pope would
> be running the U.S.
>


Boy, do I remember that! How times change. Now we have a woman and a
Jew running and nobody is batting an eyelash.


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On 4/11/2016 3:56 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:22:18 -0600, Janet B >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:58:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
>>>> still a long, long way off yet.
>>>
>>> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
>>> because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>>>
>>> It's not a fashion show.

>>
>> Anything causes a fuss. When Kennedy was running, because he was
>> Catholic, it was said that to vote for him meant that the Pope would
>> be running the U.S.
>>

>
> Boy, do I remember that! How times change. Now we have a woman and a
> Jew running and nobody is batting an eyelash.
>
>

That must make poor old Joe Liebermann wistful...
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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
>> still a long, long way off yet.

>
> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
> because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>
> It's not a fashion show.


but some people think color or gender makes one most qualified. We have a
supreme court justice that keeps saying so.




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On 4/11/2016 4:57 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
>>> still a long, long way off yet.

>>
>> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
>> because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>>
>> It's not a fashion show.

>
> but some people think color or gender makes one most qualified.


Yes racists mainly!

> We have a supreme court justice that keeps saying so.



http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-supreme-court


When will there be enough women on the United States supreme court?

Supreme court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says when all nine seats are
filled by female judges:

"So now the perception is, yes, women are here to stay. And when I'm
sometimes asked when will there be enough [women on the supreme court]?
And I say when there are nine, people are shocked. But there'd been nine
men, and nobody's ever raised a question about that."

Ginsburg's comments, which were made last month, ruffled some feathers –
but

"...but..."


?!?!?!?!?

My God!
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:58:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
>> still a long, long way off yet.

>
>I find that comment interesting.


Hopefully in the way it was intended.

>I vote for the most qualified, not because the candidate is
>black, white, male or female.


That's how it should be.

>It's not a fashion show.


If by that you mean appearances shouldn't count, I agree.
But I'm saying that they do in reality.

Take the mind and personality of this guy:
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...ktgVZGp7lDpXNY

And clone them into this guy:
http://www.hostpic.org/images/1604120437190121.jpg

Which of these well presented men would win in an election?



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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:04:04 -0300, wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:33:34 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 4/11/2016 5:12 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:05:10 -0300,
wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:20:11 -0600, Janet B >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I guess I was lucky. I didn't have surgery to have it removed. I did
>>>>> have surgery to place a 'screen' before my heart to prevent the clot
>>>> >from getting to heart. I was treated with a blood thinner.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> I saw one of those 'medical' ads on tv the other day, a law firm
>>>> asking you if you had one of those screens to contact them - maybe you
>>>> should check that out?
>>>
>>> No, I don't listen to those ads. It's law firms looking for business.
>>> Janet US
>>>

>>Those ads are always announced by a "non-attorney spokesperson". Class
>>action lawsuits. Hey, if you join in and deal with 10 years of
>>litigation you *might* get a settlement check... after the lawyers take
>>their cut you'll be lucky to get $1.99... if you live long enough.
>>
>>Jill

>
>I wasn't suggesting Janet enter a class action, more that if the
>lawyers are advertising about those 'screens' maybe it is worth Janets
>time to check with her doc what's going on with them.


Doesn't matter. It's not going anywhere unless I want to have
potentially dangerous surgery. The body tissue grows them in place.
Just like when you have cataract surgery, the body tissue grows over
the edges.
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Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "Jeßus" wrote:
> >
> > I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that
> > is still a long, long way off yet.

>
> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
> because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>
> It's not a fashion show.


Same here. I'll add I dont like any of them this time. I may devolve
to voting for the one I hate the least.

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On 4/11/2016 5:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that
>>> is still a long, long way off yet.

>>
>> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
>> because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>>
>> It's not a fashion show.

>
> Same here. I'll add I dont like any of them this time. I may devolve
> to voting for the one I hate the least.
>


Why would you even stoop to discussing OUR AMERICAN politics with some
scumbag, rabbit-killing Auztard???

Screw that America-humping virus straight to eternal HELL!
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:32:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>There is also a segment of people that can afford reasonably priced
>insurance but in the past were denied coverage due to pre-existing
>conditions. For a mere $10,000 a year in premiums you can get $250,000
>in benefits. I'd do it if I was in that position.


10 GRAND a year, just for insurance? 10 thousand dollars? For just ONE
year?
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Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 4/11/2016 5:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:


> > > > I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks
> > > > that is still a long, long way off yet.
> > >
> > > I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified,
> > > not because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
> > >
> > > It's not a fashion show.

> >
> > Same here. I'll add I dont like any of them this time. I may
> > devolve to voting for the one I hate the least.
> >

>
> Why would you even stoop to discussing OUR AMERICAN politics with
> some scumbag, rabbit-killing Auztard???
>
> Screw that America-humping virus straight to eternal HELL!


I do not know what your problem is but that is Gary above who lives
about 10 miles from me.

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On 4/11/2016 6:57 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 4/11/2016 5:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
>>>>> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks
>>>>> that is still a long, long way off yet.
>>>>
>>>> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified,
>>>> not because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>>>>
>>>> It's not a fashion show.
>>>
>>> Same here. I'll add I dont like any of them this time. I may
>>> devolve to voting for the one I hate the least.
>>>

>>
>> Why would you even stoop to discussing OUR AMERICAN politics with
>> some scumbag, rabbit-killing Auztard???
>>
>> Screw that America-humping virus straight to eternal HELL!

>
> I do not know what your problem is but that is Gary above who lives
> about 10 miles from me.
>

Sorry, thought is was a jeBus post - my bad!
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On 4/11/2016 8:44 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:32:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> There is also a segment of people that can afford reasonably priced
>> insurance but in the past were denied coverage due to pre-existing
>> conditions. For a mere $10,000 a year in premiums you can get $250,000
>> in benefits. I'd do it if I was in that position.

>
> 10 GRAND a year, just for insurance? 10 thousand dollars? For just ONE
> year?
>


Insurance can run anywhere from about $3500 to $12,000 depending on
coverage, copays, deductibles. There are some people that get full
coverage for free, subsidized by those that pay the higher rates.


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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> On 2016-04-11 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> You said you now have to pay a small premium for coverage. That is just
>> the first step to a larger premium How USA of them to start you on the
>> path.
>>
>> Sounds to me that both systems need some work. At least I know what my
>> payments are, you guys have it buried in taxes and no one seems to
>> really know what it is costing you.
>>

>
> The annual premium is less than a lot of Americans are paying monthly, and
> our overall taxes are not higher than yours.


So how much is your annual premium? We paid nothing monthly until I got
disability. And now I am required to get Medicare. Insurance costs nothing
right now for husband and daughter. That will change when she turns 18.

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"taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
>>> still a long, long way off yet.

>>
>> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
>> because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>>
>> It's not a fashion show.

>
> but some people think color or gender makes one most qualified. We have a
> supreme court justice that keeps saying so.


I know people who want Hilary just because she's a woman. No other reason.

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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 19:57:39 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On 4/11/2016 5:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> > > > > I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks
> > > > > that is still a long, long way off yet.
> > > >
> > > > I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified,
> > > > not because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
> > > >
> > > > It's not a fashion show.
> > >
> > > Same here. I'll add I dont like any of them this time. I may
> > > devolve to voting for the one I hate the least.
> > >

> >
> > Why would you even stoop to discussing OUR AMERICAN politics with
> > some scumbag, rabbit-killing Auztard???
> >
> > Screw that America-humping virus straight to eternal HELL!

>
> I do not know what your problem is but that is Gary above who lives
> about 10 miles from me.


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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 21:23:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>
> Insurance can run anywhere from about $3500 to $12,000 depending on
> coverage, copays, deductibles. There are some people that get full
> coverage for free, subsidized by those that pay the higher rates.


Or they work for a company with profits out the kazoo. A family
member works for Google and their medical benefits are not only woman
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 11:41:13 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
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> What's the point of living in a rich western country if they don't
> even try to organise affordable healthcare for everybody? Unless
> you're rich, you could just as well live in Bangladesh.


That's what the citizens who vote against their own self-interest
don't understand. They are manipulated into thinking that the people
who "can't" actually "won't" and they are *takers*. Never mind they
are in the "taker" category, they have been brainwashed to think that
Takers are someone else who deserves their scorn.

To prove my point, all you need to do is Google which states TAKE the
most Federal "handout" dollars vs how much they contribute in taxes
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:52:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>"taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
>>>> still a long, long way off yet.
>>>
>>> I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
>>> because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>>>
>>> It's not a fashion show.

>>
>> but some people think color or gender makes one most qualified. We have a
>> supreme court justice that keeps saying so.

>
>I know people who want Hilary just because she's a woman. No other reason.


I feel sorry for anyone who regards her as a woman.
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 21:23:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/11/2016 8:44 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:32:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> There is also a segment of people that can afford reasonably priced
>>> insurance but in the past were denied coverage due to pre-existing
>>> conditions. For a mere $10,000 a year in premiums you can get $250,000
>>> in benefits. I'd do it if I was in that position.

>>
>> 10 GRAND a year, just for insurance? 10 thousand dollars? For just ONE
>> year?
>>

>
>Insurance can run anywhere from about $3500 to $12,000 depending on
>coverage, copays, deductibles. There are some people that get full
>coverage for free, subsidized by those that pay the higher rates.


Is it safe to say then that it isn't the wealthy or the very poor that
suffer with these costs, rather it is the middle class (or however you
wish to refer to them) that's getting shafted here?
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On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 5:55:27 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:58:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > "Jeßus" wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
> > > still a long, long way off yet.

> >
> > I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
> > because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
> >
> > It's not a fashion show.

>
> Hopefully most Americans have that frame of mind. Who cares what an
> outsider thinks?


Suppose it were not our old friend Jeßus talking, but (for example)
Malala Yousafzai. Would you perhaps care about her opinion?

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On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 8:44:46 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:32:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >There is also a segment of people that can afford reasonably priced
> >insurance but in the past were denied coverage due to pre-existing
> >conditions. For a mere $10,000 a year in premiums you can get $250,000
> >in benefits. I'd do it if I was in that position.

>
> 10 GRAND a year, just for insurance? 10 thousand dollars? For just ONE
> year?


Yep. That's why I'm grateful to have my husband's employer pay half
the cost.

The insurance company makes out like a bandit on me, since I consume
virtually no health care services. They don't do as well with my husband,
who has multiple prescriptions and numerous doctor visits per year.

Cindy Hamilton


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On 4/11/2016 7:21 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:04:04 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:33:34 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/11/2016 5:12 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:05:10 -0300,
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:20:11 -0600, Janet B >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I was lucky. I didn't have surgery to have it removed. I did
>>>>>> have surgery to place a 'screen' before my heart to prevent the clot
>>>>> >from getting to heart. I was treated with a blood thinner.
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw one of those 'medical' ads on tv the other day, a law firm
>>>>> asking you if you had one of those screens to contact them - maybe you
>>>>> should check that out?
>>>>
>>>> No, I don't listen to those ads. It's law firms looking for business.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> Those ads are always announced by a "non-attorney spokesperson". Class
>>> action lawsuits. Hey, if you join in and deal with 10 years of
>>> litigation you *might* get a settlement check... after the lawyers take
>>> their cut you'll be lucky to get $1.99... if you live long enough.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> I wasn't suggesting Janet enter a class action, more that if the
>> lawyers are advertising about those 'screens' maybe it is worth Janets
>> time to check with her doc what's going on with them.

>
> Doesn't matter. It's not going anywhere unless I want to have
> potentially dangerous surgery. The body tissue grows them in place.
> Just like when you have cataract surgery, the body tissue grows over
> the edges.
> Janet US
>

I agree, Janet. Those ads are designed to invoke fear and make one
think they should immediately (a) contact a lawyer or (b) bother their
doctor even though last follow-up, you're doing very well.

I keep seeing ads saying I should switch my car insurance. Liberty
Mutual will give me new car replacement! Except I don't have a new car.
Even if I bought one tomorrow I'm 99% sure I wouldn't crash it in the
next year and need them to replace it. I'd like to know who they're
writing auto policies for so I can avoid those people on my way to the
grocery store.

Jill
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 5:55:27 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:58:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > > "Jeßus" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
> > > > still a long, long way off yet.
> > >
> > > I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
> > > because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
> > >
> > > It's not a fashion show.

> >
> > Hopefully most Americans have that frame of mind. Who cares what an
> > outsider thinks?

>
> Suppose it were not our old friend Jeßus talking, but (for example)
> Malala Yousafzai. Would you perhaps care about her opinion?


Not at all.
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:52:51 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 03:25:42 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 5:55:27 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:58:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>> > "Jeßus" wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
>>> > > still a long, long way off yet.
>>> >
>>> > I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
>>> > because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
>>> >
>>> > It's not a fashion show.
>>>
>>> Hopefully most Americans have that frame of mind. Who cares what an
>>> outsider thinks?

>>
>>Suppose it were not our old friend Jeßus talking, but (for example)
>>Malala Yousafzai. Would you perhaps care about her opinion?

>
>With all due respect for what that girl's been through, but what an
>inflated media hype!


Not at all, it must be infuriating to the Taliban to see her on tv,
getting a peace prize etc.
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 8:44:46 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:32:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> > >There is also a segment of people that can afford reasonably priced
> > >insurance but in the past were denied coverage due to pre-existing
> > >conditions. For a mere $10,000 a year in premiums you can get $250,000
> > >in benefits. I'd do it if I was in that position.

> >
> > 10 GRAND a year, just for insurance? 10 thousand dollars? For just ONE
> > year?

>
> Yep. That's why I'm grateful to have my husband's employer pay half
> the cost.


You should be grateful too. Years ago, I worked for a company. It's
the same one that I work for now. My health insurance was paid
completely for family coverage by the company.

Then when I became a single parent and needed more flexible time, I
quit and started my own business. Health care started out costing me
$85 per month for me and my daughter (suscriber and one minor) and
deductible was only $100 per year for each of us. Co-pay of
prescriptions was never offered either.

Over the next 14-15 years, we rarely went to the doctor so the
insurance company never paid a penny for out health care...not one
cent. Even though we cost them nothing, they constantly raised the
rates and/or the annual deductible every couple of years.

When I turned age 50, the new policy jumped to $425 per month and
$1500 deductible. Keep in mind too that we never even met the
deductible so I was paying all that insurance money and getting
nothing back.

That's when I dropped it. I literally couldn't afford it. My ignorant
father (who has govt. paid insurance help) mumbled that I couldn't
afford NOT to have it. Idiot. I told him, "Dad, I can't pay the
premium if it's not in my bank account." He had no clue since his was
supplimented.

So anyway, almost 20 years to the day, my business was hurting so I
went back to the old company that gave me so many benefits. Father was
out of it and his worthless son had taken over. Very little benefits
since then. The son wants all the money for himself. He would make a
good exec for Walmart. heheh

I've gone almost 13 years now without health insurance. At my age,
it's like playing "Russian Roulette." These are the very years that I
should have it. I've "saved" a ton of insurance money (assuming I
could have paid it, but I couldn't).

Many people have employer provided insurance to some extent. They
often run to the doctor for every little sniffle since they only have
to pay $20 per visit and meds are cheap. These are the people that run
up the insurance/medical costs.

Anyone that doesn't believe me...go try to buy insurance on your own
with no company co-pay. What ever they charge you, you'll get no
returns unless some very serious hospitalization is required.

Again though...I'm not sitting here wringing my hands and crying that
it's not fair. Nobody owes me anything. I made my decisions in life
(right or wrong). I make lots of sacrifices to accept and deal with my
situation. I'm not resentful at all. And as I said, like many without
insurance, I'll probably die someday for something stupid just because
I can't afford to get it fixed. I'm just one of the worthless and the
world will go on fine without me.. oh man! ;o

Hey... :-D I take life one day at a time.


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Janet B wrote:
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> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:58:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >"Jeßus" wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd still like to see a real black person win office. Methinks that is
> >> still a long, long way off yet.

> >
> >I find that comment interesting. I vote for the most qualified, not
> >because the candidate is black, white, male or female.
> >
> >It's not a fashion show.

>
> Anything causes a fuss. When Kennedy was running, because he was
> Catholic, it was said that to vote for him meant that the Pope would
> be running the U.S.


The Kennedys were the US version of a royalty vote...the Camelot
thing.

In my tin hat thoughts though are that the US govt (the career govt
agencies) didn't want them...

JFK was a loose cannon, they had him killed
Robert was next in line, they killed him too
Edward was disgraced to win the presidency
but was allowed to serve as a Senator for too many years.
Then came JFK junior...he was looking too good to be a
future presidential candidate.
He died in a plane crash. I don't believe that was an accident

It's just too ironic how ALL the Kennedy potential president
candidates
met an untimely death or scandal.
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 08:20:57 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yep. That's why I'm grateful to have my husband's employer pay half
>> the cost.

>
>You should be grateful too. Years ago, I worked for a company. It's
>the same one that I work for now. My health insurance was paid
>completely for family coverage by the company.
>
>Then when I became a single parent and needed more flexible time, I
>quit and started my own business. Health care started out costing me
>$85 per month for me and my daughter (suscriber and one minor) and
>deductible was only $100 per year for each of us. Co-pay of
>prescriptions was never offered either.
>
>Over the next 14-15 years, we rarely went to the doctor so the
>insurance company never paid a penny for out health care...not one
>cent. Even though we cost them nothing, they constantly raised the
>rates and/or the annual deductible every couple of years.
>
>When I turned age 50, the new policy jumped to $425 per month and
>$1500 deductible. Keep in mind too that we never even met the
>deductible so I was paying all that insurance money and getting
>nothing back.
>
>That's when I dropped it. I literally couldn't afford it. My ignorant
>father (who has govt. paid insurance help) mumbled that I couldn't
>afford NOT to have it. Idiot. I told him, "Dad, I can't pay the
>premium if it's not in my bank account." He had no clue since his was
>supplimented.
>
>So anyway, almost 20 years to the day, my business was hurting so I
>went back to the old company that gave me so many benefits. Father was
>out of it and his worthless son had taken over. Very little benefits
>since then. The son wants all the money for himself. He would make a
>good exec for Walmart. heheh
>
>I've gone almost 13 years now without health insurance. At my age,
>it's like playing "Russian Roulette." These are the very years that I
>should have it. I've "saved" a ton of insurance money (assuming I
>could have paid it, but I couldn't).
>
>Many people have employer provided insurance to some extent. They
>often run to the doctor for every little sniffle since they only have
>to pay $20 per visit and meds are cheap. These are the people that run
>up the insurance/medical costs.
>
>Anyone that doesn't believe me...go try to buy insurance on your own
>with no company co-pay. What ever they charge you, you'll get no
>returns unless some very serious hospitalization is required.
>
>Again though...I'm not sitting here wringing my hands and crying that
>it's not fair. Nobody owes me anything. I made my decisions in life
>(right or wrong). I make lots of sacrifices to accept and deal with my
>situation. I'm not resentful at all. And as I said, like many without
>insurance, I'll probably die someday for something stupid just because
>I can't afford to get it fixed. I'm just one of the worthless and the
>world will go on fine without me.. oh man! ;o
>
>Hey... :-D I take life one day at a time.


I often see stats for the number of people in the US who have no
insurance, people just like you, circumstances, and it is quite
shocking to us anyway. Even though I know many like to point fingers
at us and say it is 'socialised' health care, if it is, who cares.

Stay healthy Gary, we made basically a similar choice. When David
retired the Blue Cross he'd had all his working days (for frills
really, things like a private room if in hospital etc) wanted to
charge him $400 per month, lot of money then. So we decided he would
drop it and just use what the gubermint supplied and I would gamble
that I would stay in good health until I was 65. The gamble worked
fine as it turned out. So now I pay $434 per year and that covers any
drugs I might need, which could be very expensive. Bugger Blue Cross
they took advantage of knowing what his medical condition was.
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 08:27:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 4/11/2016 10:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > "Janet B" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:05:10 -0300, wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:20:11 -0600, Janet B >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I guess I was lucky. I didn't have surgery to have it removed. I did
>> >>>> have surgery to place a 'screen' before my heart to prevent the clot
>> >>>> from getting to heart. I was treated with a blood thinner.
>> >>>> Janet US
>> >>>
>> >>> I saw one of those 'medical' ads on tv the other day, a law firm
>> >>> asking you if you had one of those screens to contact them - maybe you
>> >>> should check that out?
>> >>
>> >> No, I don't listen to those ads. It's law firms looking for business.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> > And there's a reason for that. You would be wise to check it out.

>>
>> Fearmongering!

>
>If I had that procedure done and then see there's a class action law
>suit going on, I would at least ask my doctor about it the next time I
>went. Often, current medical procedures are found to be not so good
>down the road. No need to panic but I would still ask my doc about it.


I agree. A friend had a hip replacement light years ago, when they
first started doing them, it was only later as a result of seeing
notice of a class action against porcelain replacement hips that she
knew anything could be amiss. When she checked with her doctor, he
checked, found she did indeed have a porcelain one and she had another
replacement before perhaps she fell and shattered the thing.
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