On 5/6/2016 6:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-05-05 3:49 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok, here's another analogy.
>>
>> I load up a gun and start shooting into a crowd. I didn't realize,
>> though, that I was loading up with blanks.
>>
>> What should they charge me with?
>>
>
> If there was a cop in the crowd you probably would be charged with
> anything. You would get yourself shot.
>
Is that how you handled rogue puppytruckers, Bully Boy?

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
> been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
> substance.
>
> So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
>
> N.

I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.

On 2016-05-06 12:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
>> been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
>> substance.
>>
>> So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
>>
>> N.
>
> I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.

You have to wonder when a *** guy gets caught in a phony complaint about
an anti *** slur writing in icing on his cake and tries to go viral in
social media.

>

On Fri, 6 May 2016 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
> > been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
> > substance.
> >
> > So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
> >
> > N.
>
> I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.

I'll stick with the schizo off his meds theory.

--

sf

On 5/6/2016 10:27 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> The key element is the intent.
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
> "OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
> Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
> entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
> baby carrots".
>
> -sw
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
> I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.
>
> -sw
>
> You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
> written down the once you realized you liked it.
>
> -sw
>
> Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
> spite.
>
> -sw
>
> Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.
>
> [High Five]
>
> -sw
>
> Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.
>
> -sw
>
> You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.
>
> -sw
>
> You tell him Julie!
>
> <snort>
>
> -sw
>
> That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
> couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
> how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
> explain why the proposed solution won't work.
>
> Same 'ol song and dance.
>
> -sw
>
> <snip rest unread>
>
> -sw
>
> So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
> years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
> have been your direct experience with the New York public school
> system in the early 2000's?
>
> -sw
>
> What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
> amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
> world.
>
> -sw
>
>
> Again, only in YOUR house.
>
> -sw

On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 7:54:53 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-05-06 12:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> >> Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
> >> been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
> >> substance.
> >>
> >> So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
> >>
> >> N.
> >
> > I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.
>
> You have to wonder when a *** guy gets caught in a phony complaint about
> an anti *** slur writing in icing on his cake and tries to go viral in
> social media.
>
> >

Extortion scheme gone bad?

On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:14:19 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2016 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
> > > been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
> > > substance.
> > >
> > > So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
> > >
> > > N.
> >
> > I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.
>
> I'll stick with the schizo off his meds theory.
>
> --
>
> sf

Nuts for sure but any *** guy will tell you the guy's ***.

On Fri, 6 May 2016 23:37:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:14:19 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 May 2016 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
> > > > been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
> > > > substance.
> > > >
> > > > So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
> > > >
> > > > N.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.
> >
> > I'll stick with the schizo off his meds theory.
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf
>
> Nuts for sure but any *** guy will tell you the guy's ***.

My ***-dar isn't that well tuned. I'd have to see a video or at least
a picture of him to start drawing a conclusion other than he's nuts.

--

sf

On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 8:55:43 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2016 23:37:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1>
> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:14:19 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > > On Fri, 6 May 2016 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > > Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
> > > > > been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
> > > > > substance.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
> > > > >
> > > > > N.
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.
> > >
> > > I'll stick with the schizo off his meds theory.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > sf
> >
> > Nuts for sure but any *** guy will tell you the guy's ***.
>
> My ***-dar isn't that well tuned. I'd have to see a video or at least
> a picture of him to start drawing a conclusion other than he's nuts.
>
> --
>
> sf

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/45/71/73.../3/920x920.jpg

On 2016-05-07 2:37 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 7:54:53 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-05-06 12:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
>>>> been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
>>>> substance.
>>>>
>>>> So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.
>>
>> You have to wonder when a *** guy gets caught in a phony complaint about
>> an anti *** slur writing in icing on his cake and tries to go viral in
>> social media.
>>
>>>
>
> Extortion scheme gone bad?
>
I just saw the videos, one by the guy making the complaint, and another
by the company defending itself. I got the impression he was operating
on some sort of agenda and there is a very strong case against him. He
made a big deal about how the seal was still on it, but then there was
surveillance video of him checking out and the label was elsewhere.

On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 3:16:30 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 8:55:43 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 May 2016 23:37:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 9:14:19 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 6 May 2016 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 5:50:28 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > > > Any AA residents here? Authorities have arrested a dangerous kook who has
> > > > > > been spraying fresh produce in supermarkets with a mouse-poison toxic
> > > > > > substance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So if you aren't sure about your store, dump it out!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > N.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm thinking that *** folks have it in for Whole Foods.
> > > >
> > > > I'll stick with the schizo off his meds theory.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > sf
> > >
> > > Nuts for sure but any *** guy will tell you the guy's ***.
> >
> > My ***-dar isn't that well tuned. I'd have to see a video or at least
> > a picture of him to start drawing a conclusion other than he's nuts.
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf
>
> http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/45/71/73.../3/920x920.jpg

We've got much better photos of him now:

<http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>

Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 7 May 2016 05:12:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>
>We've got much better photos of him now:
>
><http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I kept thinking it reminded me of something and finally remembered

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> We've got much better photos of him now:
> <http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>


So, like I said. Shoot the stupid arrogant looking POS . He admitted
doing the crime so there should be no trial. Defense attorneys will
claim insanity...that's just what they do. Save tax payers tons of
money to keep him in prison for years. Shoot the dumb shit and claim
escape attempt.

You want to keep him alive but yet bitch about poor people costing you
money for health claims that they can't afford?

On 5/7/2016 5:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> He made a big deal about how the seal was still on it, but then there
> was surveillance video of him checking out and the label was elsewhere.

Oh sod off, you big trucker bully.

On 5/7/2016 8:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> So, like I said. Shoot the stupid arrogant looking POS . He admitted
> doing the crime so there should be no trial.

Why do you want to set a legal precedent for pure fascism in America?

When you say idiotic stuff like that you make yourself look like a
simple-minded fool.

On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 10:18:07 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > We've got much better photos of him now:
> > <http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>
>
>
> So, like I said. Shoot the stupid arrogant looking POS . He admitted
> doing the crime so there should be no trial. Defense attorneys will
> claim insanity...that's just what they do. Save tax payers tons of
> money to keep him in prison for years. Shoot the dumb shit and claim
> escape attempt.
>
> You want to keep him alive but yet bitch about poor people costing you
> money for health claims that they can't afford?

I don't necessarily want to keep him alive. Do you recall I said it would
be fine with me if he were shanked on his first day in prison? I want due
process under our laws. If you want to live somewhere that the rule of law
does not hold, feel free to go there.

I don't bitch about poor people costing me money; you must have mistaken
me for someone else.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/7/2016 8:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>>
>>> My ***-dar isn't that well tuned. I'd have to see a video or at least
>>> a picture of him to start drawing a conclusion other than he's nuts.

> We've got much better photos of him now:
>
> <http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Looks like dyed blond hair. Yeah, he's got some out of balance hormones.

On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/7/2016 8:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>> My ***-dar isn't that well tuned. I'd have to see a video or at least
> >>> a picture of him to start drawing a conclusion other than he's nuts.
>
> > We've got much better photos of him now:
> >
> > <http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> Looks like dyed blond hair. Yeah, he's got some out of balance hormones.

Well, dyed blond hair on a man is not proof of anything really, except
perhaps a touch of narcissism. I've seen a lot of young men with dye
jobs here in this college town. They're constantly re-inventing
themselves, it seems.

The surveillance photos seem to show a man with somewhat darker hair, and
someone (can't remember where) suggested the dye job was an attempt to
disguise himself. That says "sane" to me.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/7/2016 8:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > >>>
> > >>> My ***-dar isn't that well tuned. I'd have to see a video or at least
> > >>> a picture of him to start drawing a conclusion other than he's nuts.
> >
> > > We've got much better photos of him now:
> > >
> > > <http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> >
> > Looks like dyed blond hair. Yeah, he's got some out of balance hormones.
>
> Well, dyed blond hair on a man is not proof of anything really, except
> perhaps a touch of narcissism.

In that case, the majority of women are narcissists.

On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 7:20:02 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 5/7/2016 8:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My ***-dar isn't that well tuned. I'd have to see a video or at least
> > > >>> a picture of him to start drawing a conclusion other than he's nuts.
> > >
> > > > We've got much better photos of him now:
> > > >
> > > > <http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > >
> > > Looks like dyed blond hair. Yeah, he's got some out of balance hormones.
> >
> > Well, dyed blond hair on a man is not proof of anything really, except
> > perhaps a touch of narcissism.
>
> In that case, the majority of women are narcissists.

Interesting. I would never have guessed that 75% of American women dye
their hair (including streaking/frosting or whatever the heck they
call it nowadays).

<http://www.statisticbrain.com/hair-coloring-dying-statistics/>

(Even if they misspelled "dyeing" as "dying")

I've messed around with dyeing my hair a few times, but I could
never be bothered to keep up with it. I'd look at the new color
and say "So? I'm still me." The last time I did that I was in my
40s. In my late 20s I henna'd my hair routinely for a few years.
It faded over time and I never got "roots". Now I can't fathom
why I bothered.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 7:20:02 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > On 5/7/2016 8:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> My ***-dar isn't that well tuned. I'd have to see a video or at least
> > > > >>> a picture of him to start drawing a conclusion other than he's nuts.
> > > >
> > > > > We've got much better photos of him now:
> > > > >
> > > > > <http://photos.mlive.com/ann-arbor_photos/2016/05/photo_gallery_kyle_bessemer_ar.html>
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looks like dyed blond hair. Yeah, he's got some out of balance hormones.
> > >
> > > Well, dyed blond hair on a man is not proof of anything really, except
> > > perhaps a touch of narcissism.
> >
> > In that case, the majority of women are narcissists.
>
> Interesting. I would never have guessed that 75% of American women dye
> their hair (including streaking/frosting or whatever the heck they
> call it nowadays).
>
> <http://www.statisticbrain.com/hair-coloring-dying-statistics/>
>
> (Even if they misspelled "dyeing" as "dying")
>
> I've messed around with dyeing my hair a few times, but I could
> never be bothered to keep up with it. I'd look at the new color
> and say "So? I'm still me." The last time I did that I was in my
> 40s. In my late 20s I henna'd my hair routinely for a few years.
> It faded over time and I never got "roots". Now I can't fathom
> why I bothered.

I've never dyed my hair, but there is still time.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 10:18:07 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > You want to keep him alive but yet bitch about poor people costing you
> > money for health claims that they can't afford?
>
> I don't necessarily want to keep him alive. Do you recall I said it would
> be fine with me if he were shanked on his first day in prison? I want due
> process under our laws. If you want to live somewhere that the rule of law
> does not hold, feel free to go there.

IMO, when the guy admitted it, that's due process. No trial necessary.
>

> I don't bitch about poor people costing me money; you must have mistaken
> me for someone else.

Dammit, I just knew I should have added a disclaimer there. I almost
did but then just sent the message. I do apologize so much, Cindy. My
comment was NOT directed at you at all...it was for the general public
that often complains about paying healthcare for the poor with their
taxes.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Cindy wrote:

> > I've messed around with dyeing my hair a few times, but I could
> > never be bothered to keep up with it. I'd look at the new color
> > and say "So? I'm still me." The last time I did that I was in my
> > 40s. In my late 20s I henna'd my hair routinely for a few years.
> > It faded over time and I never got "roots". Now I can't fathom
> > why I bothered.

To Cindy: My ex dyed her hair occasionally with henna. I really liked
the look..a dark reddish brown.

IMO, once you start getting quite a bit of gray (and even white hair),
it's not bad to dye it for at least a few years. Hey...it makes you
look "as young as you feel." I've known a few people that just let it
go natural and they look like crap way before their time. A 50 year
old woman with white hair looks 70. An old girlfriend of mine let it
go and she looked bad. I wasn't my place to tell her that though.

Then I've known people that dye it some solid color and they look so
fake and obviously dyed.

I've thought about dying mine for about 10 years now. Hey...why
not..young people do it just for a change.

Best advice I heard is.... pick a hair dye color that used to be
yours. Choose the dye that will wash out in several hair washes. Once
you dye it...if it looks too fake (no one has all one color hair),
just wash it a few times to let some of the natural color start
showing through the dye.

I'll probably try it someday but I'll make sure it's a temporary dye.
If I look too weird, I can stay in the house and wash some of it out.
hehehh


>
> I've never dyed my hair, but there is still time.

And here's the other side of that comment. Bald/shaved is so "the
fashion" these days for men, just shave it all off vs dying it.

On 5/8/2016 9:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> IMO, once you start getting quite a bit of gray (and even white hair),
> it's not bad to dye it for at least a few years. Hey...it makes you
> look "as young as you feel." I've known a few people that just let it
> go natural and they look like crap way before their time.

I started going grey (not a pretty, silvery grey, think government steel
desk grey) when I was 30. Hell no, I won't go!

Jill

On 5/8/2016 10:53 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/8/2016 9:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>> IMO, once you start getting quite a bit of gray (and even white hair),
>> it's not bad to dye it for at least a few years. Hey...it makes you
>> look "as young as you feel." I've known a few people that just let it
>> go natural and they look like crap way before their time.
>
> I started going grey (not a pretty, silvery grey, think government steel
> desk grey) when I was 30. Hell no, I won't go!
>
> Jill

About 40 my wife stated getting the silvery gray mix in her pure black
hair. I thought it looked nice, but she talked of dying her hair. i
convinced her not to as black hair dyed looks so fake. Any time we'd
see an older woman with dyed black hair I'd say to my wife "remind me to
pick up shoe polish"

Thirty years later she has much more gray than black, but is is a nice
combo and has always been age appropriate as it changed. She is
fortunate to have such nice color. My daughter had dyed her hair since
about age 30 as it is mousy brown with gray streaks.

On 2016-05-08 9:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:

>
> Best advice I heard is.... pick a hair dye color that used to be
> yours. Choose the dye that will wash out in several hair washes. Once
> you dye it...if it looks too fake (no one has all one color hair),
> just wash it a few times to let some of the natural color start
> showing through the dye.
>


We had a lot of fun with our boss when he used Grecian Formula to get
hide the graying of his hair. We would look at him and ask him if he was
feeling okay, or ask why he looked different, but not acknowledge the
hair colour issue.

On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 9:46:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> >
> > Cindy wrote:
>
> > > I've messed around with dyeing my hair a few times, but I could
> > > never be bothered to keep up with it. I'd look at the new color
> > > and say "So? I'm still me." The last time I did that I was in my
> > > 40s. In my late 20s I henna'd my hair routinely for a few years.
> > > It faded over time and I never got "roots". Now I can't fathom
> > > why I bothered.
>
> To Cindy: My ex dyed her hair occasionally with henna. I really liked
> the look..a dark reddish brown.
>
> IMO, once you start getting quite a bit of gray (and even white hair),
> it's not bad to dye it for at least a few years. Hey...it makes you
> look "as young as you feel."

I am 59, so I reckon I feel 59. Why shouldn't I have hair to match?

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2016-05-08 9:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Bruce wrote:
>
> >
> > Best advice I heard is.... pick a hair dye color that used to be
> > yours. Choose the dye that will wash out in several hair washes. Once
> > you dye it...if it looks too fake (no one has all one color hair),
> > just wash it a few times to let some of the natural color start
> > showing through the dye.
> >
>
> We had a lot of fun with our boss when he used Grecian Formula to get
> hide the graying of his hair. We would look at him and ask him if he was
> feeling okay, or ask why he looked different, but not acknowledge the
> hair colour issue.

That's a good one. ;-D

Gary wrote:
>Bruce wrote:
>>Cindy wrote:
>
>> > I've messed around with dyeing my hair a few times, but I could
>> > never be bothered to keep up with it. I'd look at the new color
>> > and say "So? I'm still me." The last time I did that I was in my
>> > 40s. In my late 20s I henna'd my hair routinely for a few years.
>> > It faded over time and I never got "roots". Now I can't fathom
>> > why I bothered.
>
>To Cindy: My ex dyed her hair occasionally with henna. I really liked
>the look..a dark reddish brown.
>
>IMO, once you start getting quite a bit of gray (and even white hair),
>it's not bad to dye it for at least a few years. Hey...it makes you
>look "as young as you feel." I've known a few people that just let it
>go natural and they look like crap way before their time. A 50 year
>old woman with white hair looks 70. An old girlfriend of mine let it
>go and she looked bad. I wasn't my place to tell her that though.

I've known several 50 year old women with gray hair who could easily
pass for 40, mostly depends on keeping fit , how they style their
haair, and how they dress... a woman's hair color is not one of the
first things I notice, more like one of the last. Fifty year old
women who dye their hair thinking to make themselves look thirty look
hideious.

>Then I've known people that dye it some solid color and they look so
>fake and obviously dyed.
>
>I've thought about dying mine for about 10 years now. Hey...why
>not..young people do it just for a change.
>
>Best advice I heard is.... pick a hair dye color that used to be
>yours. Choose the dye that will wash out in several hair washes. Once
>you dye it...if it looks too fake (no one has all one color hair),
>just wash it a few times to let some of the natural color start
>showing through the dye.
>
>I'll probably try it someday but I'll make sure it's a temporary dye.
>If I look too weird, I can stay in the house and wash some of it out.
>hehehh
>
>> I've never dyed my hair, but there is still time.
>
>And here's the other side of that comment. Bald/shaved is so "the
>fashion" these days for men, just shave it all off vs dying it.

You'd be suprised at how many women begin to lose their hair at an
early age, lots. Lynn who has been cutting my hair for twelve years
tells me many of her women customers would love to have my hair, many
are half bald with a big bald spot on top, she does a lot of comb
overs and has to style for their hairpieces.

I'm fortunate to have a full head of very thick extremely fast growing
hair. When I reached my mid 40s I started to gray, at first only a
few strands but over the next ten years became s n'p, and now mostly s
with some p. Several times I thought about dying, even looked at
those DIY packages at the stores but reading the directions nothing
appealed (expensive and time consuming to apply), even thought of
getting one of those coloring comb thingies but again just didn't seem
worth the trouble. About five years ago the gal who cuts my hair
suggested I try Clairol's Professional Shimmer Lights Shampoo - blond
& silver formula, so I tried it, it's an excellent shampoo that
darkens the gray a wee bit and adds a very faint bluish highlight that
I think is a much better look than a dye job. I have been using
Alberto VO5 hairdressing conditioner for many years and so switched
from regular to their formula for gray/white/silver blonde hair...
adds very nice tones that soften the grays. Both these products
require no extra effort and are available at most any drug store, I
order mine in multi-packs from Amazon. These are both very high
quality products, only a small amount is necessary so it goes a long
way.
http://www.amazon.com/Clairol-Profes..._a_it&sr= 8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Alberto-VO5-Co... _a_it&sr=8-4

On 5/8/2016 11:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/8/2016 10:53 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/8/2016 9:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> IMO, once you start getting quite a bit of gray (and even white hair),
>>> it's not bad to dye it for at least a few years. Hey...it makes you
>>> look "as young as you feel." I've known a few people that just let it
>>> go natural and they look like crap way before their time.
>>
>> I started going grey (not a pretty, silvery grey, think government steel
>> desk grey) when I was 30. Hell no, I won't go!
>>
>> Jill
>
> About 40 my wife stated getting the silvery gray mix in her pure black
> hair. I thought it looked nice, but she talked of dying her hair. i
> convinced her not to as black hair dyed looks so fake. Any time we'd
> see an older woman with dyed black hair I'd say to my wife "remind me to
> pick up shoe polish"
>
I had an aunt who at one time had black hair. When it started to turn
whatever she dyed it and yes, it did look like shoe polish. It was
blatantly obvious. There have been ways to be more subtle about it for
a long time now.

> Thirty years later she has much more gray than black, but is is a nice
> combo and has always been age appropriate as it changed. She is
> fortunate to have such nice color.

Yes, she is.

Jill

On 5/8/2016 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-05-08 9:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>
>>
>> Best advice I heard is.... pick a hair dye color that used to be
>> yours. Choose the dye that will wash out in several hair washes. Once
>> you dye it...if it looks too fake (no one has all one color hair),
>> just wash it a few times to let some of the natural color start
>> showing through the dye.
>
>
> We had a lot of fun with our boss when he used Grecian Formula to get
> hide the graying of his hair. We would look at him and ask him if he was
> feeling okay, or ask why he looked different, but not acknowledge the
> hair colour issue.
>
I worked with a man whose wife gave him a toupee for Valentine's Day.
I'm not kidding. He was showing off his new hair in the break room.
All I could think of was Carl Reiner and his many ill-fitting hair
pieces on (for example) the Dick Van Dyke Show.

All I wanted was a cup of coffee...

Jill

On 2016-05-08, jmcquown > wrote:

> All I wanted was a cup of coffee...

With or without sugar?

I drink mine black ....unless it's some off-the-shelf sprmkt dreck
that requires Sweet n' Low and that pwdrd cream crap. Bleah! 8|

nb

On 5/8/2016 1:07 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-05-08, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> All I wanted was a cup of coffee...
>
> With or without sugar?
>
> I drink mine black ....unless it's some off-the-shelf sprmkt dreck
> that requires Sweet n' Low and that pwdrd cream crap. Bleah! 8|
>
> nb
>
Black coffee. I don't drink coffee any more but I never did like sweet
coffee or light (coffee with milk or cream).

Jill

On 2016-05-08 12:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> IMO, once you start getting quite a bit of gray (and even white hair),
>> it's not bad to dye it for at least a few years. Hey...it makes you
>> look "as young as you feel."
>
> I am 59, so I reckon I feel 59. Why shouldn't I have hair to match?
>

I have a few years on you and can say that you are lucky to still have
hair to match anything.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2016-05-08 12:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >> IMO, once you start getting quite a bit of gray (and even white hair),
> >> it's not bad to dye it for at least a few years. Hey...it makes you
> >> look "as young as you feel."
> >
> > I am 59, so I reckon I feel 59. Why shouldn't I have hair to match?
> >
>
> I have a few years on you and can say that you are lucky to still have
> hair to match anything.

Isn't it typical that baldness in men is passed on by women?

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2016-05-05 3:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
> >> On 5/5/2016 1:53 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, I get that. But why? I can't believe he just woke up one day and said
> >>> "Let's poison some people". Did he have some political aim, or some
> >>> other axe to grind? That's what I'm waiting to hear.
> >>
> >> Right off the bat they said he had mental health problems, so
> >> Why might never make sense.
> >>
> >> nancy
> >
> > His arraignment was about an hour ago.
> >
> > <http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2016/05/man_charged_in.html>
> >
> > "Why" appears to be "He's crazy and thought he was being poisoned".
> >
> > Fine. Now we know (at least, as much as we can know given "he's crazy".)
>
>
> Catch 22. If he was really crazy he would not likely refer to his
> previous mental problems and his paranoid delusions.

Not always true.
The patient's awareness of their illness can vary (some have no
awareness of being ill or their diagnosis, others are painfully
aware).Mental illness, like many physical disabilities, can cycle and
fluctuate wildly over time; and the patient may be the last person to
notice an impending crisis/ downward slide in their mental state. IMO,
John Kuthe is a classic example; he knows he has bipolar disorder. He
knows how badly it can impact him. What he does NOT recognise, is when
he's in the middle of a particularly extreme spell and probably needs
his Dr to adjust his medication. That's not his fault or in his control;
it's the nature of the illness.

The very nature of much mental illness is, that the patient did
nothing to deserve it, has no choice about the disorder or the severity
of symptoms, and can't escape them. Just like someone with diabetes,
heart disease, or severe arthritis, might religiously take the
medication but still have a major relapse out of the blue, completely
beyond their control.

Janet UK

On Tue, 10 May 2016 14:20:33 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On 2016-05-05 3:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
> > >> On 5/5/2016 1:53 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Ok, I get that. But why? I can't believe he just woke up one day and said
> > >>> "Let's poison some people". Did he have some political aim, or some
> > >>> other axe to grind? That's what I'm waiting to hear.
> > >>
> > >> Right off the bat they said he had mental health problems, so
> > >> Why might never make sense.
> > >>
> > >> nancy
> > >
> > > His arraignment was about an hour ago.
> > >
> > > <http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2016/05/man_charged_in.html>
> > >
> > > "Why" appears to be "He's crazy and thought he was being poisoned".
> > >
> > > Fine. Now we know (at least, as much as we can know given "he's crazy".)
> >
> >
> > Catch 22. If he was really crazy he would not likely refer to his
> > previous mental problems and his paranoid delusions.
>
> Not always true.
> The patient's awareness of their illness can vary (some have no
> awareness of being ill or their diagnosis, others are painfully
> aware).Mental illness, like many physical disabilities, can cycle and
> fluctuate wildly over time; and the patient may be the last person to
> notice an impending crisis/ downward slide in their mental state. IMO,
> John Kuthe is a classic example; he knows he has bipolar disorder. He
> knows how badly it can impact him. What he does NOT recognise, is when
> he's in the middle of a particularly extreme spell and probably needs
> his Dr to adjust his medication. That's not his fault or in his control;
> it's the nature of the illness.
>
> The very nature of much mental illness is, that the patient did
> nothing to deserve it, has no choice about the disorder or the severity
> of symptoms, and can't escape them. Just like someone with diabetes,
> heart disease, or severe arthritis, might religiously take the
> medication but still have a major relapse out of the blue, completely
> beyond their control.
>
> Janet UK

it was very kind of you to say that, Janet.

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