http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutr...id=mailsignout

My main concern is whether sugar of any kind is one of the top three ingredients - but that's usually not the case with the more expensive breads.

Trouble is, if cheap breads are bad for your teeth that way - well, crusty breads are too, it seems! (That isn't part of the slideshow, I'm guessing.)


Lenona.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutr...rst-store-boug
> ht-breads/ss-BBseCYK?ocid=mailsignout
>
> My main concern is whether sugar of any kind is one of the top three
> ingredients - but that's usually not the case with the more expensive
> breads.
>
> Trouble is, if cheap breads are bad for your teeth that way - well,
> crusty breads are too, it seems! (That isn't part of the slideshow,
> I'm guessing.)
>
>
> Lenona.

Hi Leona,

Sugar won't be in the top three in any of these as it's by weight and
these are generally 1-1.5 lb loaves. Max of 2 TB sugar used with 18-20
slices generally and 3 cups flour/grain generally.

It may be in the top 3 calorically (there's at least one sweet bread in
there with a lot of fructose from fruit).

I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
teeth? Can you explain that?

Carol

--

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:

>
> I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> teeth? Can you explain that?


Well, people have been known to crack their teeth on such breads, for one...

Chewing ice is also a bad idea.

On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:33:43 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> teeth? Can you explain that?

She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
bad shape.

--

sf

On Mon, 9 May 2016 15:54:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>
> >
> > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > teeth? Can you explain that?
>
>
> Well, people have been known to crack their teeth on such breads, for one...
>
If anyone cracked a tooth, that tooth was already cracked and would
have broken on a gummy bear.

> Chewing ice is also a bad idea.

People who chew ice have more problems than teeth.


--

sf

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>
> >
> > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > teeth? Can you explain that?
>
>
> Well, people have been known to crack their teeth on such breads, for
> one...
>
> Chewing ice is also a bad idea.

Wow, that must be a hard seed bread to crack a tooth on! It would be
the whole seed sorts and apt to be overcoked/dense I imagine.

Carol

--

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:33:43 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > teeth? Can you explain that?
>
> She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
> left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
> bad shape.

It's easy to make though. I do an 'Italian' sort (labeled as such but
not pure) that is very chewy crust with a deep reaching one so the
crust can be an inch deep feeling. I love it but it's not for everyone.

Carol

--

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:32:58 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:

>
> Wow, that must be a hard seed bread to crack a tooth on! It would be
> the whole seed sorts and apt to be overcoked/dense I imagine.


From what little I heard, it's the regular HABIT of eating crusty bread that weakens your teeth, over time.

> wrote in message
...
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutr...id=mailsignout
>
> My main concern is whether sugar of any kind is one of the top three
> ingredients - but that's usually not the case with the more expensive
> breads.
>
> Trouble is, if cheap breads are bad for your teeth that way - well, crusty
> breads are too, it seems! (That isn't part of the slideshow, I'm
> guessing.)
>
>
> Lenona.

Why sugar? Most breads use HFCS. I'd rather have honey or sugar. They
only use tiny amounts.

The bread that I buy isn't listed but it is locally made.

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>
>>
>> I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
>> teeth? Can you explain that?
>
>
> Well, people have been known to crack their teeth on such breads, for
> one...
>
> Chewing ice is also a bad idea.

I have yet to hear of anyone cracking a tooth on a bread crust. A wheat
berry? I could see that.

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:32:58 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, that must be a hard seed bread to crack a tooth on! It would be
>> the whole seed sorts and apt to be overcoked/dense I imagine.
>
>
> From what little I heard, it's the regular HABIT of eating crusty bread
> that weakens your teeth, over time.

Where did you hear this?

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:33:43 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
>> teeth? Can you explain that?
>
> She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
> left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
> bad shape.

Well, that's not true. The par baked that I buy at Costco is quite crusty.
And when you say gums.. Do you mean gums added to the bread? Or the gums
in one's mouth?

On Mon, 9 May 2016 18:00:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:32:58 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>
> >
> > Wow, that must be a hard seed bread to crack a tooth on! It would be
> > the whole seed sorts and apt to be overcoked/dense I imagine.
>
>
> From what little I heard, it's the regular HABIT of eating crusty bread that weakens your teeth, over time.

People eat raw carrots. Carrots are hard, so why aren't they being
blamed?

--

sf

On Mon, 09 May 2016 19:34:57 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:33:43 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> > > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > > teeth? Can you explain that?
> >
> > She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
> > left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
> > bad shape.
>
> It's easy to make though. I do an 'Italian' sort (labeled as such but
> not pure) that is very chewy crust with a deep reaching one so the
> crust can be an inch deep feeling. I love it but it's not for everyone.
>
> Carol

If the only truly crusty bread anyone can find is homemade, then it's
not a problem.

--

sf

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>
> > From what little I heard, it's the regular HABIT of eating crusty bread that weakens your teeth, over time.
>
> People eat raw carrots. Carrots are hard, so why aren't they being
> blamed?
>
> sf
>
>
I guess we better inform people to also not eat apples, pears,
or celery.

On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:32:58 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, that must be a hard seed bread to crack a tooth on! It would be
>> the whole seed sorts and apt to be overcoked/dense I imagine.
>
>
> From what little I heard, it's the regular HABIT of eating crusty bread that weakens your teeth, over time.
>
I can't imagine cracking a tooth on crusty bread unless the tooth was
already weak. What would popcorn kernels do in your scenario?

MaryL

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:33:43 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > teeth? Can you explain that?
>
> She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
> left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
> bad shape.

Really? No truly crusty bread in the U.S.? Here's a bunch:

<https://www.zingermansbakehouse.com/real-bread/>

Some of this is even sold in local grocery stores.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:20:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 9 May 2016 15:54:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > > teeth? Can you explain that?
> >
> >
> > Well, people have been known to crack their teeth on such breads, for one...
> >
> If anyone cracked a tooth, that tooth was already cracked and would
> have broken on a gummy bear.
>
> > Chewing ice is also a bad idea.
>
> People who chew ice have more problems than teeth.

Please elucidate. I've been an ice chewer all of my life.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/10/2016 6:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:33:43 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
>>> teeth? Can you explain that?
>>
>> She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
>> left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
>> bad shape.
>
> Really? No truly crusty bread in the U.S.? Here's a bunch:
>
> <https://www.zingermansbakehouse.com/real-bread/>
>
> Some of this is even sold in local grocery stores.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Good bread is getting harder to find. My rye bread favorite for the
past 35 years has closed and nothing like it exists in 60 miles or more.

I did buy a loaf of sourdough at King Arthur last week. Wow, talk about
crust! it was a bit too much, but delicious. We do have a bakery near
us that has a half dozen varieties of breads so I'm there at least once
a week.

Oh,if it comes in a plastic bag, it is not crusty.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> sf wrote:
> > People who chew ice have more problems than teeth.
>
> Please elucidate. I've been an ice chewer all of my life.

Her comment indicates that she sees it as a sign of some personality
problem. I could be wrong but that's how I took it. If so, I don't
agree. I do know many people that like to do that. I don't but my
brother always did.

Here's an odd story... I remember when my brother was in elementary
school, one day he went to school with a lunch box. My mom had put
cold milk into his little thermos bottle. Back then, the thermos
bottles had a shiny glass liner. Well, he had dropped his lunch box on
the way to the cafeteria for lunch and it shattered the glass liner
inside. When he started drinking his milk, it was full of broken glass
but he thought Mom had just put ice in the milk to keep it cold. ;-O

The teacher luckily happened to walk by and noticed he was chewing the
"ice" in his milk. They called an ambulance and he was rushed to the
hospital and had his stomach pumped. Beware the ice!

Anyway, my dentist once told me that 2 common ways that people
chip/break their teeth is by chewing ice and also eating popcorn and
chomping down on an unpopped kernal.

YMMV. I was "just saying"

On Tue, 10 May 2016 07:36:13 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 5/10/2016 6:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:33:43 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
>>>> teeth? Can you explain that?
>>>
>>> She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
>>> left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
>>> bad shape.
>>
>> Really? No truly crusty bread in the U.S.? Here's a bunch:
>>
>> <https://www.zingermansbakehouse.com/real-bread/>
>>
>> Some of this is even sold in local grocery stores.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>Good bread is getting harder to find. My rye bread favorite for the
>past 35 years has closed and nothing like it exists in 60 miles or more.
>
>I did buy a loaf of sourdough at King Arthur last week. Wow, talk about
>crust! it was a bit too much, but delicious. We do have a bakery near
>us that has a half dozen varieties of breads so I'm there at least once
>a week.
>
>Oh,if it comes in a plastic bag, it is not crusty.

In my view (very personal I admit). A crust that is thick and hard is
a baking fault. Graham? Barry? Boron? I thick a crusty bread should
have a crust that is relatively thin, say 1/16 inch and it should
shatter easily when bit. Anything thicker and harder is a result of
poor rising, exposed to dry air during rising, too much flour kneaded
in, too much flour in the handling, something. In my personal
experience, there is a local baker that uses flour to overcome
obstacles of stickiness and handling. This results in thick crusts
and pretty tasteless crumb. However, everyone lauds the bakery
because in my mind, there is no one else doing the hands on baking
around here. I do not enjoy a really thick, hard crust.
Janet US

On 2016-05-10 7:36 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Good bread is getting harder to find. My rye bread favorite for the
> past 35 years has closed and nothing like it exists in 60 miles or more.

I am lucky to have a couple of excellent bakeries nearby. One makes
white, whole wheat, whole grain, a sour dough whole wheat (my favourite)
and a few others. I have to get there early because he doesn't make much
and it sells out quickly. The other is more of an artisan bread baker.
The breads are great but very expensive, and we don't eat enough bread
here to use them up while they are fresh.



>
> I did buy a loaf of sourdough at King Arthur last week. Wow, talk about
> crust! it was a bit too much, but delicious. We do have a bakery near
> us that has a half dozen varieties of breads so I'm there at least once
> a week.
>
> Oh,if it comes in a plastic bag, it is not crusty.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:11:34 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> Why sugar? Most breads use HFCS. I'd rather have honey or sugar. They
> only use tiny amounts.

I meant anything that COUNTS as sugar, such as corn syrup, which is what I assume you mean. (Typically, when I look at the label on a loaf of sliced bread at the supermarket, the third ingredient doesn't says "sugar," but it does say something very similar. Unless, again, it's one of the more expensive brands.)

BTW, when I looked at the slideshow, I didn't recognize even half the brands.


Lenona.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:13:42 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:

> >
> >
> > From what little I heard, it's the regular HABIT of eating crusty bread
> > that weakens your teeth, over time.
>
> Where did you hear this?


It was a very long time ago, so I don't remember. Maybe some dentist wrote it. Ask YOUR dentist.


Lenona.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:17:32 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:

>
> People eat raw carrots. Carrots are hard, so why aren't they being
> blamed?

One could argue that crusty bread is harder. Again, ask your dentist.

On 5/10/2016 9:54 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> And I know the Bay Area has plenty of them, too.
>
> -sw
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On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 12:39:52 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:20:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 May 2016 15:54:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > > > teeth? Can you explain that?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, people have been known to crack their teeth on such breads, for one...
> > >
> > If anyone cracked a tooth, that tooth was already cracked and would
> > have broken on a gummy bear.
> >
> > > Chewing ice is also a bad idea.
> >
> > People who chew ice have more problems than teeth.
>
> Please elucidate. I've been an ice chewer all of my life.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

My guess is that Americans chew more ice that anybody on this planet because of our high exposure to nuggets of ice. We even have "chewable" ice - is this a great country or what!

On Tue, 10 May 2016 03:39:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:20:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 May 2016 15:54:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > > > teeth? Can you explain that?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, people have been known to crack their teeth on such breads, for one...
> > >
> > If anyone cracked a tooth, that tooth was already cracked and would
> > have broken on a gummy bear.
> >
> > > Chewing ice is also a bad idea.
> >
> > People who chew ice have more problems than teeth.
>
> Please elucidate. I've been an ice chewer all of my life.
>

One possibility
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...e/faq-20057982

Second possibility
Cravings (you can replace crave with love or habit) for ice, nuts and
other crunchy foods can indicate frustration, anger, stress, or
resentment.

--

sf

On Tue, 10 May 2016 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:17:32 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>
> >
> > People eat raw carrots. Carrots are hard, so why aren't they being
> > blamed?
>
> One could argue that crusty bread is harder. Again, ask your dentist.

I don't need to because I know what truly crusty bread is. It would
cut gums before it ever affected teeth and it's certainly not
available at the grocery store, so it's a non-issue.

--

sf

On Tue, 10 May 2016 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:13:42 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > >
> > >
> > > From what little I heard, it's the regular HABIT of eating crusty bread
> > > that weakens your teeth, over time.
> >
> > Where did you hear this?
>
>
> It was a very long time ago, so I don't remember. Maybe some dentist wrote it. Ask YOUR dentist.
>
Don't expect her to do your work for you.

--

sf

On Tue, 10 May 2016 03:39:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:33:43 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> > > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > > teeth? Can you explain that?
> >
> > She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
> > left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
> > bad shape.
>
> Really? No truly crusty bread in the U.S.? Here's a bunch:
>
> <https://www.zingermansbakehouse.com/real-bread/>
>
> Some of this is even sold in local grocery stores.
>
You're reaching.

--

sf

On Tue, 10 May 2016 10:54:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Tue, 10 May 2016 03:39:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>>
>>> She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
>>> left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
>>> bad shape.
>>
>> Really? No truly crusty bread in the U.S.?
>
>We have plenty of sufficiently crusty breads here - Whole Foods,
>Central Market, and a chain of Mediterranean bakeries all turn out
>great crusty breads. And I know the Bay Area has plenty of them, too.
>
>-sw

I haven't seen any crusty bread in Whole Foods. It may have started
out that way, but by the time they have it bagged in plastic it gets
un-crusty. I haven't seen any bread at WF that I was tempted to buy.
Janet US

On Tue, 10 May 2016 11:45:45 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

> I haven't seen any bread at WF that I was tempted to buy.

I bought their pretzel rolls *once*, and they turned out to be an
expensive disappointment.

--

sf

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 10:28:24 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:17:32 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>
> >
> > People eat raw carrots. Carrots are hard, so why aren't they being
> > blamed?
>
> One could argue that crusty bread is harder.
>
>
Oh please.

I've never seen crusty bread so hard that it will
break teeth unless there is already badly rotten teeth to
begin with.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 12:39:01 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2016 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
> >
> > One could argue that crusty bread is harder. Again, ask your dentist.
>
> I don't need to because I know what truly crusty bread is. It would
> cut gums before it ever affected teeth and it's certainly not
> available at the grocery store, so it's a non-issue.
>
> sf
>
>
Thank you!!

Yes, it's a non-issue but she won't give it up.

On Tue, 10 May 2016 11:45:45 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Tue, 10 May 2016 10:54:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 May 2016 03:39:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:17:45 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> She's probably talking about gums, but there's no truly crusty bread
>>>> left in the USA - so that's a non-issue unless the they are already in
>>>> bad shape.
>>>
>>> Really? No truly crusty bread in the U.S.?
>>
>>We have plenty of sufficiently crusty breads here - Whole Foods,
>>Central Market, and a chain of Mediterranean bakeries all turn out
>>great crusty breads. And I know the Bay Area has plenty of them, too.
>>
>>-sw
>
>I haven't seen any crusty bread in Whole Foods. It may have started
>out that way, but by the time they have it bagged in plastic it gets
>un-crusty. I haven't seen any bread at WF that I was tempted to buy.
>Janet US


The WF I go to once in a while bakes in-store and some of their breads
are tolerable in an emergency.

But you know how picky I am.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:34:46 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2016 03:39:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:20:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > > On Mon, 9 May 2016 15:54:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no clue what you mean about crusty breads being bad for the
> > > > > teeth? Can you explain that?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, people have been known to crack their teeth on such breads, for one...
> > > >
> > > If anyone cracked a tooth, that tooth was already cracked and would
> > > have broken on a gummy bear.
> > >
> > > > Chewing ice is also a bad idea.
> > >
> > > People who chew ice have more problems than teeth.
> >
> > Please elucidate. I've been an ice chewer all of my life.
> >
>
> One possibility
> http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...e/faq-20057982

Probably not that one. I've never suffered from iron deficiency.

> Second possibility
> Cravings (you can replace crave with love or habit) for ice, nuts and
> other crunchy foods can indicate frustration, anger, stress, or
> resentment.

Perhaps. I'm a cruncher of opportunity. If I have a glass with ice
in it, I crunch the ice. If there's no ice, I'm fine with that.
I love crunchy foods, but raw vegetables generally suffice.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 9:15:59 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-05-10 7:36 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I am lucky to have a couple of excellent bakeries nearby. One makes
> white, whole wheat, whole grain, a sour dough whole wheat (my favourite)
> and a few others. I have to get there early because he doesn't make much
> and it sells out quickly. The other is more of an artisan bread baker.
> The breads are great but very expensive, and we don't eat enough bread
> here to use them up while they are fresh.
>
>
I pay about $5 on average for the good stuff.

sorry, bread machine

make my own

i know [almost] exactly what goes into my breads

marc

On 5/10/2016 4:19 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:34:46 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>> One possibility
>> http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...e/faq-20057982
>
> Probably not that one. I've never suffered from iron deficiency.
>
I've been so anaemic I've passed out - but I've never had an urge to
chew ice.