On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT), "
>
> >They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
> >emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
> >monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
> >want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
> >done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
> >week here.
> >
> >Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
> >can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>
> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
> employer is required by federal law to report their wages. 'Only'
> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
> not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
> No one said you have to tip.
> Janet US
>
>
These are _city employees_ not independent contractors.
They're making a full salary as if they worked 5 days
a week it's just their work week consists of 4 days.

A tip does not have to be reported on their income taxes,
ask waiters and waitresses if they report ALL their tips.
How would these trash collectors boss know how much cash
they receive if they are tipped unless they piped up and
told them the amount?

On 5/24/2016 6:20 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> It certainly never occurred to me to tip the garbage people.
>>
> Thank you.

One penurious Grinch genuflects to another...

>> I don't tip the person who delivers my mail, either. Then again, I'd
>> have to figure out exactly *who* is delivering the mail. I have
>> continually had problems getting my neighbors mail. I walk it down the
>> street and put it in the correct mailbox. These people need to be
>> tipped? What for? I'm doing their job for them.
>>
>>
> About every 6 weeks I have a new mail person. Yes, I'm getting
> mail that sometimes belongs 10 blocks away. I put it back in the
> mailbox with "delivered to wrong address" written on the front.

Maybe if you actually discussed the situation with your Postmaster...


>> Unlike some areas, they're not walking down the street with a heavy mail
>> bag slung over their shoulder. They're driving around in
>> air-conditioned cars. They still can't get it right. No tips, no
>> Christmas presents, sorry!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> People don't realize mail carriers are some of the best paid
> government workers in the country.

And they only get shot up now and then...

> I'm supposed to tip them
> for a job they're already well paid to do?

No, you penurious succubus, you're not supposed to care about anyone or
anything but your own solipsist existence.

Enjoy the afterlife, I bet it'll be a real "eye-opener" for you...

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 10:23:42 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I don't know if working 4 days a week means they are making less than a
> full wage. They may be on a compressed work week. I worked a compressed
> work week of four 10 hour shifts and got the full week's pay. My son
> works mostly 12 hour shifts. If he works 5 days a week he is into
> serious overtime.
>
>
I worked 3 days a week and off 4 for 30 years. We were
*supposed* to work around 13 1/2 hours per day to make a 40
hour work week but it was not enforced. Twelve hours was our
work day 99% of the time and we got full pay.

On 5/24/2016 6:34 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:29:45 -0600, Capulin > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2016 4:05 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:26:04 -0600, Capulin > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2016 9:55 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:04:33 -0600, Janet B >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No one said you have to tip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet they complain as if it was written into law.
>>>>>
>>>> Who does?
>>>>
>>>> Citation?
>>>
>>> Read the thread. They're all here (complaining).
>>>
>>
>> The garbage delivery guys?
>>
>> Sorry, I must have lost the reference.
>
> Tipping in general, not just garbage men.

Understood now - yes.

There is a no-tip mentality here.

My bad.

>> Ours are damned hard workers, never a complaint even when branches
>> aren't sawed as short as they should be.

On 5/24/2016 6:34 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT), "
>>
>>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>>> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
>>> want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>>> done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
>>> week here.
>>>
>>> Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>>> can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>>
>> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
>> employer is required by federal law to report their wages. 'Only'
>> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
>> not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
>> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
>> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
>> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
>> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
>> No one said you have to tip.
>> Janet US
>>
>>
> These are _city employees_ not independent contractors.
> They're making a full salary as if they worked 5 days
> a week it's just their work week consists of 4 days.
>
> A tip does not have to be reported on their income taxes,
> ask waiters and waitresses if they report ALL their tips.
> How would these trash collectors boss know how much cash
> they receive if they are tipped unless they piped up and
> told them the amount?
>

How cynically self-satisfied do YOU have to be to have THAT kind of
mincing Grinchy attitude?

On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:34:30 -0600, Capulin > wrote:

> On 5/24/2016 6:12 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:28:06 -0600, Capulin > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks sf,
> >>
> >> I believe in the tides of karma, and that particular little usenet
> >> picador has been playing at being the "nice guy" here then going evil
> >> sporadically for long enough to have to pay a definitive price.
> >>
> >> He's the worst kind of hypocrite, the one that plays for sympathy, then
> >> bits you on the ankle.
> >>
> >
> > It seems many here are *done* with his Eddie Haskell act.
> >
>
> Ding!
>
> There it is, and I believe you used that character once before as a
> reference.
>
> Nailed him cold.
>
> "My goodness Mrs. Cleaver, how lovely you look today!"
>
> "Why thank you Eddie..."
>
> <eye roll>

I can't think of any other well known character that describes him
better.

--

sf

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 10:45:26 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> > " wrote:
>
> > >Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
> > >can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>
> Get real. No one working for tips makes an extra $10,000 per year with
> the exception of maybe waiters and waitress' in a high priced
> restaurant.
>
> A trash man even getting tips from many won't come close to that.
>
>
You'd be surprised. My city's population is around 700,000.
Granted, some neighborhoods are much more wealthy than mine.
Why do you think there was so much howling when the city put a
stop to them asking for tips?
> >
> >
> > It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
> > employer is required by federal law to report their wages.
>
> Have you ever heard of the "underground economy?" Some predictions
> even say up to 50% of income is not reported. Regardless of the
> percentage, it's a big thing that's happened forever. So many people
> don't report income. If you get paid in cash, and you don't deposit
> it, there is no paper trail. Also don't go out spending more money
> than you claim.
>
>
Exactly.
>
>
> >'Only'
> > working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
> > not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
> > darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
> > you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
> > in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
> > of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
>
> So clueless. Look up job opportunities in your city or town. See what
> trashmen make. In my city, they make up to $45K per year, plus tons of
> benefits and full retirement. In bigger cities, the wage scale is MUCH
> higher. Don't be fooled by the 4-day work week. They get their full
> time with all the benifits. 4 day weeks are usually 10 hour days.
> Trashmen don't work part time.
>
>
Yep. It's a darn good paying job around here and they are
city employees, not contract workers.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 17:53:39 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > "Janet B" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Mon, 23 May 2016 00:14:27 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> > > snip
> > > >
> > > > And "normal" people here do not dispose of food in trash cans
> > > > here. People who are not upstanding citizens do. Didn't you say
> > > > that they don't even recycle where you live?
> > >
> > > I'm having a hard time picturing this, Julie. Apparently Bothell is
> > > very strict, so there is no eating of food out of doors like at the
> > > Tasty Freeze or hot dogs. At least, no walking with food. How do
> > > you know what the rules are as you pass from one township to
> > > another. I'm assuming you do move between townships because you
> > > live in large urban area. Are there color coded trash cans
> > > everywhere for aluminum, organics, non-recycle paper?
> > > Janet US
> >
> > I have no clue what Tasty Freeze is. Of course you can eat outdoors.
> > I don't know about walking with food. Can't see why anyone would do
> > that. Most places that sell food have food waste bins. If they don't,
> > they must sort it themselves.
> >
> > We have three bins here. The blue one for paper, plastics, metal and
> > glass. Exceptions would be shredded paper and food soiled paper.
> > Those go in the green bin as well as compostables, food and yard
> > trimmings. Then there is the trash can for everything else. The green
> > and blue bins are large. The gray trash bin is smaller.
>
> LOk, reread the link and it says colors may vary. The link shows
> compost/food in a grey color then a blue and a green one.

All we need to know is it's separated and each color is a category.
She can figure out the rest of it.

Just an FYI, my garbage can is black. Lawn clippings and food compost
are separated and their cans are different shades of green. Blue is
recycling, of course.

--

sf

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 1:46:19 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:48:18 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> > Garbage once a week here and recyclables are picked up once
> > a month.
>
> Both once a week here... and good thing too or I'd need three bins for
> cat food cans, all their cartons, and cat litter packaging. The vast
> majority of my trash is generated by cats.
>
>
The trash can as well as the recycling can is 96 gallons
each here. I called and requested the 64 gallon size; no way
I could fill two 96 gallon cans. It's a rare week if my 64
gallon wheeled trash can is full; recycle can is almost always
full after a month of recycling.

If you have a bunch of kids, especially teenagers you generate
more garbage and the city, here, will deliver you an extra trash
can if you need it.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:38:27 -0600, Capulin > wrote:

> > About every 6 weeks I have a new mail person.
>
> Maybe if you actually discussed the situation with your Postmaster...
>
Yeah. That kind of turnover sounds like a training route to me.
>


--

sf

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:13:04 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>
> On 5/24/2016 8:46 AM, wrote:
>
> >>
> >> No one holds out there hands.
> >>
> > I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
> > Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
> > some cash in it.
>
> That is not "holding out their hands".
>
It is to me.
>
> >> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
> >> big red note.
> >>
> >> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
> >> year.
> >>
> >> YMMV, and obviously does.
> >>
Rah, rah, rah for you.
>
> > They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
> > emptying garbage.
>
> Define "darn good salary".
>
> Oh, you can't, well then let me:
>
> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>
>
> National Avg
> $35,890
> Min Max
> $28k $53k
> How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
> The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890 .
>
> Maybe that's your idea of "darn good", but it's not mine.
>
> And that's just the driver, not the assistant.
>
Read what you post. That's a NATIONAL AVERAGE.
>
> > It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
> > monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
> > want a paycheck.
>
> Your own lurid fantasy, not reality.
>
They applied for a job as a city employed trash collector.
How is that my fantasy?
>
> > Why should they get paid extra for something they've
> > done no extra work to earn a tip?
>
> Because they do it well every week of your year, they do it in sometimes
> crappy conditions, and they deal with your stinky REFUSE!
>
Actually I have very little garbage and it's never stunk. If they
don't like dealing with garbage they should have never applied for
the job.
>
> You haughty uncompassionate slug!
>
I'm haughty because I don't agree with you and what you do?
Guess what, you're a narrow minded wannabe bully.
>
> Btw, we also tip our mail carrier, newspaper carrier and hairdresser.
>
I tip my hair dresser, I don't tip the mail carrier because s/he also
gets paid a darn good salary. More than the garbage man and my mail
carrier changes about every 6 weeks or so. And I'm supposed to tip
them for mis-delivered mail?
>
> It seems likely they earn as little or in some cases less as the garbage
> man.
>
Baloney, pure and simple. I knew you didn't have a clue what you were
talking about yesterday and now I know you don't!
>
> > As I said, they only work 4 days a week here.
>
> I don't ****ing care!
>
Well, quit replying if you don't care. You must care or you
wouldn't be so perturbed that I don't tip the garbage man.
>
> I bet those are every bit of 12-14 hour days they put in.
>
Probably more like 10 hour days.
>
> > Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
> > can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>
> Go try and feed a family of 4 on $35K a year.
>
You are guessing again, using that 'national average.'
>
> Try and save for college.
>
Let the kid put his own lazy butt through college.
>
> Try and own a new car or truck.
>
I don't own a new car or truck. Why should I tip someone so
they can? They'll have to go in debt just like me to own a
new vehicle.
>
> Try and pay your mortgage.
>
I did on that 'national average.' Granted, I got raises
throughout the years. But I was still in debt for car notes
and mortgages.
>
> You're a truly rotten person joann, one of the worst in an otherwise
> soul-filthy group of misfits here.
>
No, I'm standing right behind you with your phony outrage that not
everyone thinks everybody who has their hand stuck out should get a
tip for a job they were hired to do.

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:14:18 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>
> On 5/24/2016 8:48 AM, wrote:
> >>
> > Garbage once a week here and recyclables are picked up once
> > a month.
> >
> Yes, we've already your excuse for being a stingy, uncompassionate
> mumblenews.
>
>
Doesn't Hillary need you working on her campaign? Always willing
to give money away and turn up you nose that others don't follow
your lead.

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:18:56 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>
> The penurious ****antry of some of the people here (not you Janet B!) is
> utterly appalling!
>
>
If our choice of how we spend our money bothers you badly then
leave. There's no anchor tied to your ass making you stay here
and be shocked and appalled because we don't follow your lead.

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:25:40 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>
> On 5/24/2016 9:45 AM, Gary wrote:
> > So clueless. Look up job opportunities in your city or town. See what
> > trashmen make. In my city, they make up to $45K per year, plus tons of
> > benefits and full retirement.
>
> WRONG!
>
> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>
> Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
> Updated Apr 25, 2016
> National Avg
> $35,890
> Min Max
> $28k $53k
> How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
> The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890.
>
>
You haven't a clue what garbage collectors make in Gary's town.
You think because you read the 'national average' then it's the
absolute gospel. Get your head out of the oven.

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 7:38:34 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>
>
> > About every 6 weeks I have a new mail person. Yes, I'm getting
> > mail that sometimes belongs 10 blocks away. I put it back in the
> > mailbox with "delivered to wrong address" written on the front.
>
> Maybe if you actually discussed the situation with your Postmaster...
>
>
Hahahaaaaaaaa, don't that, waste of time and breath.
>
> >>
> > People don't realize mail carriers are some of the best paid
> > government workers in the country.
>
> And they only get shot up now and then...
>
Really? When?
>
> > I'm supposed to tip them
> > for a job they're already well paid to do?
>
> No, you penurious succubus, you're not supposed to care about anyone or
> anything but your own solipsist existence.
>
You really get your bvd's in a wad when people don't do as you tell
them, don't you?
>
> Enjoy the afterlife, I bet it'll be a real "eye-opener" for you...
>
It will be paradise.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 17:39:29 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Wed, 25 May 2016 08:49:10 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:15:18 -0600, Janet B >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 06:44:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 05:08:49 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
>>>>>comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
>>>>>something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
>>>>>the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>>>>
>>>>I think these days many (most?) trucks have cameras for the operators
>>>>to view what is being disposed.
>>>
>>>It was my understanding that those cameras were positioned so that the
>>>driver didn't run over your child or your car.
>>
>>That's another reason the trucks have cameras, yes.
>>
>>>I never heard that
>>>they were there to monitor contents of the can. I think I hear a
>>>conspiracy theory.
>>
>>Please keep my comments in the context as that originally given.
>>By implication you also seem to be suggesting conspiracy theories are
>>by default erroneous and the province of loonies. Which is obviously
>>not the case.
>>
>>But anyway:
>>
>>http://www.news-mail.com.au/news/was...emoval/577961/
>>
>>"Another camera will record the bin being lifted, and one inside the
>>hopper would examine and record incoming waste."
>>
>>https://theintercept.com/2015/07/28/...cans-watching/
>>
>>"Municipalities across the United States are implementing intrusive
>>methods of monitoring the stuff people throw away as part of a push to
>>increase efficiency and conformity to recycling rules. But the end
>>result is that some garbage trucks now have the ability to record the
>>contents of your trash cans on video to inspect each object"
>>
>>https://www.thestar.com/life/homes/2...age_truck.html
>>
>>http://www.wheeliewaste.com.au/cms/latest-news/
>>
>>http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...-1225899232423
>>
>>http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226869866461
>>
>>http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-1...talled/6932258
>>
>>http://vehiclevideocameras.com/mobil...nt-camera.html
>
>Please don't take my comments to the extreme. I did not imply you
>were a loonie.

No worries, but generally speaking the term conspiracy theory is used
in a derogatory sense. No conspiracy theory here, as you can see (but
perhaps not comment on

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 7:40:42 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>
> How cynically self-satisfied do YOU have to be to have THAT kind of
> mincing Grinchy attitude?
>
>
Hillary is calling you.

On 5/24/2016 8:20 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> It certainly never occurred to me to tip the garbage people.
>>
> Thank you.
>>
>> I don't tip the person who delivers my mail, either. Then again, I'd
>> have to figure out exactly *who* is delivering the mail. I have
>> continually had problems getting my neighbors mail. I walk it down the
>> street and put it in the correct mailbox. These people need to be
>> tipped? What for? I'm doing their job for them.
>>
>>
> About every 6 weeks I have a new mail person. Yes, I'm getting
> mail that sometimes belongs 10 blocks away. I put it back in the
> mailbox with "delivered to wrong address" written on the front.
>>
>>
>> Unlike some areas, they're not walking down the street with a heavy mail
>> bag slung over their shoulder. They're driving around in
>> air-conditioned cars. They still can't get it right. No tips, no
>> Christmas presents, sorry!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> People don't realize mail carriers are some of the best paid
> government workers in the country. I'm supposed to tip them
> for a job they're already well paid to do?
>

I don't tip the mail carrier for various reasons, but I do tip the UPS
guy at Christmastime because I do most of my non-grocery shopping from
Amazon and other places to avoid shopping because I just can't do it
anymore, so I get a lot of deliveries. This guy is so great, and so
friendly and will even carry heavy boxes into my house.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 2016-05-24 7:06 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>

>>> I live in a rural area. I would never litter, but apple cores,
>>> banana peels, grape seeds..... out the window. Feed the
>>> critters.
>>
>> Do that here and you'll pay a nice fine. They don't care what it is.
>> You don't throw it out the window. And yes, there are cameras to
>> watch for violators.
>
> Julie, he's not talking out the window of a car on the road. He means
> in his own yard in the country.
>



No. I mean that I will toss it out the car window.... tossing it far
enough that it is off the road and the shoulder.... well over into the
grass. It is organic matter and will decompose, and possible feed a
bigger critter.

But... let's give the Bove for making yet another idiotic claim about
there being cameras to catch people littering. It just gets better all
the time.

On 5/24/2016 6:44 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:34:30 -0600, Capulin > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2016 6:12 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:28:06 -0600, Capulin > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks sf,
>>>>
>>>> I believe in the tides of karma, and that particular little usenet
>>>> picador has been playing at being the "nice guy" here then going evil
>>>> sporadically for long enough to have to pay a definitive price.
>>>>
>>>> He's the worst kind of hypocrite, the one that plays for sympathy, then
>>>> bits you on the ankle.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It seems many here are *done* with his Eddie Haskell act.
>>>
>>
>> Ding!
>>
>> There it is, and I believe you used that character once before as a
>> reference.
>>
>> Nailed him cold.
>>
>> "My goodness Mrs. Cleaver, how lovely you look today!"
>>
>> "Why thank you Eddie..."
>>
>> <eye roll>
>
> I can't think of any other well known character that describes him
> better.



Games a man should never try and play - fooling:

a.) his mother

b.) his friend's mother

c.) any school teacher

On 5/24/2016 7:04 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:38:27 -0600, Capulin > wrote:
>
>>> About every 6 weeks I have a new mail person.
>>
>> Maybe if you actually discussed the situation with your Postmaster...
>>
> Yeah. That kind of turnover sounds like a training route to me.

Perceptive.

That or there is major disharmony in that branch.

On 5/24/2016 04:55, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>
> There is a place that looks similar to the one in your link that is in
> the Skagit Valley area. I have been there a few times but bought no
> produce. It far enough from home and the day was hot enough that the
> stuff wouldn't have made it back here in a fresh state.

54 miles from Mt. Vernon, Wa. (Skagit Co.) to your dump. About an hour.
And of course your car has no air conditioning, or a cooler that a
rational person would pack to put things in, if that was a concern.
Every time you supposedly went, the days were too hot? Really?
You give people who live in Washington State a bad name.
Sheesh.

On 5/24/2016 7:22 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:13:04 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2016 8:46 AM, wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> No one holds out there hands.
>>>>
>>> I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
>>> Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
>>> some cash in it.
>>
>> That is not "holding out their hands".
>>
> It is to me.

As cold-hearted as you are, I suppose so.

>>
>>>> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
>>>> big red note.
>>>>
>>>> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
>>>> year.
>>>>
>>>> YMMV, and obviously does.
>>>>
> Rah, rah, rah for you.

No, rah, rah, rah, for the guys doing the really shitty jobs and still
getting them done each and every week.

>>
>>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>>> emptying garbage.
>>
>> Define "darn good salary".
>>
>> Oh, you can't, well then let me:
>>
>> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>>
>>
>> National Avg
>> $35,890
>> Min Max
>> $28k $53k
>> How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
>> The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890 .
>>
>> Maybe that's your idea of "darn good", but it's not mine.
>>
>> And that's just the driver, not the assistant.
>>
> Read what you post. That's a NATIONAL AVERAGE.

Read what an elitist obfuscator you are - that's no way to send kids to
college or buy a new car.

>>
>>> It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
>>> want a paycheck.
>>
>> Your own lurid fantasy, not reality.
>>
> They applied for a job as a city employed trash collector.
> How is that my fantasy?

"playground monitor" =/ garbage truck driver

You just got a self-wedgie from your own tawdry and dismissive rhetoric.

>>
>>> Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>>> done no extra work to earn a tip?
>>
>> Because they do it well every week of your year, they do it in sometimes
>> crappy conditions, and they deal with your stinky REFUSE!
>>
> Actually I have very little garbage and it's never stunk.

Oh!

One of the "my shit don't stink clan"!

I thought you lot were...ah...ex'stinked!

> If they don't like dealing with garbage they should have never applied for
> the job.

Ever have a job you hated because it was the best one you could get and
pay the bills with?

You are one seriously ****ed up woman.

>>
>> You haughty uncompassionate slug!
>>
> I'm haughty because I don't agree with you and what you do?

No, you're haughty because you take hard-working folk for granted, or less.

> Guess what, you're a narrow minded wannabe bully.

No, I'm deep into your shallow skull and wondering if the rubber soles
on my galoshes will melt from the acidic rot.

>>
>> Btw, we also tip our mail carrier, newspaper carrier and hairdresser.
>>
> I tip my hair dresser, I don't tip the mail carrier because s/he also
> gets paid a darn good salary.

Yes, you're real big on grading whose salary is "darn good"...

> More than the garbage man and my mail
> carrier changes about every 6 weeks or so. And I'm supposed to tip
> them for mis-delivered mail?

A situation you are too dense to investigate, complain, and resolve.

>>
>> It seems likely they earn as little or in some cases less as the garbage
>> man.
>>
> Baloney, pure and simple. I knew you didn't have a clue what you were
> talking about yesterday and now I know you don't!

Bet me?

Get ready to LOSE, Grinch!

http://work.chron.com/paper-route-pay-scale-20145.html

Indeed.com job listings suggest you can earn between $150 and $500 per
week. Some paper distributors pay a set amount each week, while others
pay an hourly rate or fee per paper. Newspaper carriers work as an
independent contractors, so you are responsible for your own vehicle
including gas, insurance, maintenance and repairs.

Service Tips
In addition to your contractor pay, you may also earn money in tips. You
are less likely to receive frequent tips if your route consists of
retail clients such as stores or large businesses, but residential
customers often reward good service through tips. Examples of providing
good service include consistent, timely delivery at approximately the
same time each day and meeting special requests such as leaving the
paper by the front door of the home or business. Some customers tip on a
weekly basis, while others only offer a tip once in a while.

http://money.usnews.com/careers/best...dresser/salary

Hairdressers arent typically salaried employees. The majority are
self-employed and many work part-time. The BLS reports the median hourly
wage for hairdressers in 2014 was $11.12, which translates to $23,120 a
year. The best-paid earned approximately $45,840, while the lowest-paid
made about $17,160.


>>
>>> As I said, they only work 4 days a week here.
>>
>> I don't ****ing care!
>>
> Well, quit replying if you don't care. You must care or you
> wouldn't be so perturbed that I don't tip the garbage man.

It matters not to me what you personally do, it's the elitist
anti-working man crap you spew here that is offensive.

>> I bet those are every bit of 12-14 hour days they put in.
>>
> Probably more like 10 hour days.

PROVE IT!

>>> Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>>> can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>>
>> Go try and feed a family of 4 on $35K a year.
>>
> You are guessing again, using that 'national average.'

Non answer.

Next.

>>
>> Try and save for college.
>>
> Let the kid put his own lazy butt through college.

Nice.

So all kids are "lazy"?

Especially the ones of garbage truck drivers?

Yeah, you're a real piece of work.

>>
>> Try and own a new car or truck.
>>
> I don't own a new car or truck.

It's not about YOU, you self absorbed princess!

> Why should I tip someone so they can?

Your tip won't buy anyone a new car, that we all know.

> They'll have to go in debt just like me to own a
> new vehicle.

Ah how nice, the debtor penitente mentality!

You're a good little slave to wants over needs.

>>
>> Try and pay your mortgage.
>>
> I did on that 'national average.'

This isn't about YOU Joann!

It's about the working men and women YOU disrespected!

> Granted, I got raises
> throughout the years. But I was still in debt for car notes
> and mortgages.

Not quite the princess you play then are you?

>>
>> You're a truly rotten person joann, one of the worst in an otherwise
>> soul-filthy group of misfits here.
>>
> No, I'm standing right behind you with your phony outrage that not
> everyone thinks everybody who has their hand stuck out should get a
> tip for a job they were hired to do.

No, you're sinking in the muck of your own haughty and self-referential
bullshit.

On 5/24/2016 7:23 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:14:18 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2016 8:48 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>> Garbage once a week here and recyclables are picked up once
>>> a month.
>>>
>> Yes, we've already your excuse for being a stingy, uncompassionate
>> mumblenews.
>>
>>
> Doesn't Hillary need you working on her campaign?

I would think a liar like you might be the best fit.

> Always willing to give money away and turn up you nose that others don't follow
> your lead.

I don't use the state to enforce my "giving" - I use my own jack, joann.

On 5/24/2016 7:26 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:18:56 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> The penurious ****antry of some of the people here (not you Janet B!) is
>> utterly appalling!
>>
>>
> If our choice of how we spend our money bothers you badly then
> leave. There's no anchor tied to your ass making you stay here
> and be shocked and appalled because we don't follow your lead.
>
That's me living rent-free in your skull joann.

Enjoy!

On 5/24/2016 7:29 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:25:40 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2016 9:45 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> So clueless. Look up job opportunities in your city or town. See what
>>> trashmen make. In my city, they make up to $45K per year, plus tons of
>>> benefits and full retirement.
>>
>> WRONG!
>>
>> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>>
>> Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
>> Updated Apr 25, 2016
>> National Avg
>> $35,890
>> Min Max
>> $28k $53k
>> How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
>> The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890.
>>
>>
> You haven't a clue what garbage collectors make in Gary's town.

Nor do you.

> You think because you read the 'national average' then it's the
> absolute gospel. Get your head out of the oven.

An average is just that, numerically speaking.

You will note that I also cited the top and bottom of that distribution,
you dizzy self-absorbed snit!

On 5/24/2016 7:39 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 7:38:34 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>>
>>> About every 6 weeks I have a new mail person. Yes, I'm getting
>>> mail that sometimes belongs 10 blocks away. I put it back in the
>>> mailbox with "delivered to wrong address" written on the front.
>>
>> Maybe if you actually discussed the situation with your Postmaster...
>>
>>
> Hahahaaaaaaaa, don't that, waste of time and breath.

Quitter.

>>
>>>>
>>> People don't realize mail carriers are some of the best paid
>>> government workers in the country.
>>
>> And they only get shot up now and then...
>>
> Really? When?

Ever here the term, "going postal"?

Wow.

>>> I'm supposed to tip them
>>> for a job they're already well paid to do?
>>
>> No, you penurious succubus, you're not supposed to care about anyone or
>> anything but your own solipsist existence.
>>
> You really get your bvd's in a wad when people don't do as you tell
> them, don't you?

You really like to act the princess but lack the slippers.

>> Enjoy the afterlife, I bet it'll be a real "eye-opener" for you...
>>
> It will be paradise.
>
With you in it?

Impossible.

On 5/24/2016 7:40 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 7:40:42 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> How cynically self-satisfied do YOU have to be to have THAT kind of
>> mincing Grinchy attitude?
>>
>>
> Hillary is calling you.
>

Sorry, I don't have any youtube videos to wax the coffins of the
Benghazi dead with.

On 5/24/2016 8:09 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 5/24/2016 8:20 PM, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>
>>> It certainly never occurred to me to tip the garbage people.
>>>
>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> I don't tip the person who delivers my mail, either. Then again, I'd
>>> have to figure out exactly *who* is delivering the mail. I have
>>> continually had problems getting my neighbors mail. I walk it down the
>>> street and put it in the correct mailbox. These people need to be
>>> tipped? What for? I'm doing their job for them.
>>>
>>>
>> About every 6 weeks I have a new mail person. Yes, I'm getting
>> mail that sometimes belongs 10 blocks away. I put it back in the
>> mailbox with "delivered to wrong address" written on the front.
>>>
>>>
>>> Unlike some areas, they're not walking down the street with a heavy mail
>>> bag slung over their shoulder. They're driving around in
>>> air-conditioned cars. They still can't get it right. No tips, no
>>> Christmas presents, sorry!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>> People don't realize mail carriers are some of the best paid
>> government workers in the country. I'm supposed to tip them
>> for a job they're already well paid to do?
>>
>
> I don't tip the mail carrier for various reasons, but I do tip the UPS
> guy at Christmastime because I do most of my non-grocery shopping from
> Amazon and other places to avoid shopping because I just can't do it
> anymore, so I get a lot of deliveries. This guy is so great, and so
> friendly and will even carry heavy boxes into my house.
>

UPS is consistently a great training company!

On 5/24/2016 8:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> But... let's give the Bove for making yet another idiotic claim


Do you have any clue how totally mentally ill you look going after her
multiple times day in and day out?

"Capulin" > wrote in message ...
> On 5/24/2016 8:55 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>>> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage
>>
>> Too true!
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> Is it Jill, is it really?
>
> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>
> Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
> Updated Apr 25, 2016
> National Avg
> $35,890
> Min Max
> $28k $53k
>
> Go try and raise and feed a family of 4 on that salary.
>
> Rotsa ruck, you haughty, entitled, tin horn heiress!

I know someone who was a trash collector, here. Do not know him well. Would
see him at the dance studio. He always looked worn out and would often fall
asleep while his daughter was taking her one class.

After a couple of years, I noticed that he looked like he was more well
groomed, better dressed, not falling asleep and seemed much happier. Only
then did I find out that he'd changed jobs. I heard someone asking him about
it. He is now a road flagger. He said that although the job was a tad boring
and it still wasn't good having to be out in the elements, it was far less
wearing on his body than collecting trash and the pay was much better. His
daughter was then able to take more dance classes. I guess he couldn't
afford more before. His wife works, but I don't know where. The girl is an
only child.

"Capulin" > wrote in message ...
> On 5/24/2016 9:04 AM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>>>>> them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>>>>> I'm not tipping them
>>>>> for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>>>>> extra duties.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice.
>>>>
>>>> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>>>
>>>> No one holds out there hands.
>>>>
>>> I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
>>> Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
>>> some cash in it.
>>>>
>>>> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
>>>> big red note.
>>>>
>>>> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
>>>> year.
>>>>
>>>> YMMV, and obviously does.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>>> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
>>> want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>>> done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
>>> week here.
>>>
>>> Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>>> can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>>
>> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
>> employer is required by federal law to report their wages. 'Only'
>> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
>> not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
>> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
>> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
>> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
>> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
>> No one said you have to tip.
>> Janet US
>>
>
> Here are the FACTS:
>
> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>
> Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
> Updated Apr 25, 2016
> National Avg
> $35,890
> Min Max
> $28k $53k How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
> The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890.
>
>
> Now who the heck is getting rich on THAT annual salary?
>
> My God!
>
> The penurious ****antry of some of the people here (not you Janet B!) is
> utterly appalling!

I have seen reports on some forums of wives of trash collectors boasting of
how lucky they are and how they don't have to buy too much because their
husbands are always bringing home perfectly good stuff that people toss out.
However, their idea of perfectly good stuff might not match mine. And I
think people who would have the time to sort through and pick stuff out for
themselves would be the minority. Here they are on a strict time schedule.
No way could they do that.

"Capulin" > wrote in message ...
> On 5/24/2016 1:08 PM, Sky wrote:
>> But wait for it, bove will no doubt have various, irrational reasons why
>> such offerings won't and can't work if bove tried to shop there.
>
>
> Why are you completely INCAPABLE of simply passing her posts by without
> fixating on them and using them as an excuse to attack her?
>
> Why are there so many bully biotch women here?
>
> Were you picked on a lot as a child?
>
> I do hope so!
>
> Because if not you haven't even the fragment of an excuse for your bitter
> and vituperative behaviour here.

Something is very wrong with her. She used to be nice and we got along.

On 5/24/2016 9:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Capulin" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/24/2016 8:55 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>>>> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>>>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage
>>>
>>> Too true!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> Is it Jill, is it really?
>>
>> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>>
>>
>> Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
>> Updated Apr 25, 2016
>> National Avg
>> $35,890
>> Min Max
>> $28k $53k
>>
>> Go try and raise and feed a family of 4 on that salary.
>>
>> Rotsa ruck, you haughty, entitled, tin horn heiress!
>
> I know someone who was a trash collector, here. Do not know him well.
> Would see him at the dance studio. He always looked worn out and would
> often fall asleep while his daughter was taking her one class.
>
> After a couple of years, I noticed that he looked like he was more well
> groomed, better dressed, not falling asleep and seemed much happier.
> Only then did I find out that he'd changed jobs. I heard someone asking
> him about it. He is now a road flagger. He said that although the job
> was a tad boring and it still wasn't good having to be out in the
> elements, it was far less wearing on his body than collecting trash and
> the pay was much better. His daughter was then able to take more dance
> classes. I guess he couldn't afford more before. His wife works, but I
> don't know where. The girl is an only child.

That's a very real story, thanks for sharing.

Imagine a hard-working guy like that paying for dance classes.

Wow.

On 5/24/2016 9:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Capulin" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/24/2016 9:04 AM, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>>>>>> them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>>>>>> I'm not tipping them
>>>>>> for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>>>>>> extra duties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>>>>
>>>>> No one holds out there hands.
>>>>>
>>>> I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
>>>> Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
>>>> some cash in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
>>>>> big red note.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job
>>>>> once a
>>>>> year.
>>>>>
>>>>> YMMV, and obviously does.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>>>> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>>>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if
>>>> they
>>>> want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>>>> done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
>>>> week here.
>>>>
>>>> Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>>>> can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>>>
>>> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
>>> employer is required by federal law to report their wages. 'Only'
>>> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
>>> not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
>>> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
>>> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
>>> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
>>> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
>>> No one said you have to tip.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>
>> Here are the FACTS:
>>
>> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>>
>>
>> Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
>> Updated Apr 25, 2016
>> National Avg
>> $35,890
>> Min Max
>> $28k $53k How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
>> The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890.
>>
>>
>> Now who the heck is getting rich on THAT annual salary?
>>
>> My God!
>>
>> The penurious ****antry of some of the people here (not you Janet B!)
>> is utterly appalling!
>
> I have seen reports on some forums of wives of trash collectors boasting
> of how lucky they are and how they don't have to buy too much because
> their husbands are always bringing home perfectly good stuff that people
> toss out.

That I can believe.

> However, their idea of perfectly good stuff might not match
> mine. And I think people who would have the time to sort through and
> pick stuff out for themselves would be the minority. Here they are on a
> strict time schedule. No way could they do that.

And they'd be reprimanded if caught, if not fired.

When I was a lad going to the dump with my best friend and his uncle was
the highlight of the weekend.

Man did we find and fix some truly crappy stuff up!

Built a real cool chopper bicycle once from several donors, one a Huffy
Stingray with a broken banana vinyl seat, but plenty of good parts too.

Lesson learned - longer front forks are bad news on any bike.

Learned a bit of welding/brazing too.

On 5/24/2016 9:32 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Capulin" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/24/2016 1:08 PM, Sky wrote:
>>> But wait for it, bove will no doubt have various, irrational reasons why
>>> such offerings won't and can't work if bove tried to shop there.
>>
>>
>> Why are you completely INCAPABLE of simply passing her posts by
>> without fixating on them and using them as an excuse to attack her?
>>
>> Why are there so many bully biotch women here?
>>
>> Were you picked on a lot as a child?
>>
>> I do hope so!
>>
>> Because if not you haven't even the fragment of an excuse for your
>> bitter and vituperative behaviour here.
>
> Something is very wrong with her. She used to be nice and we got along.


Moderate latecomer that I am I can only go on the past few years and the
warnings of others.

For sure she has you in her sights and not in a good way.

On 5/24/2016 9:29 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:25:40 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2016 9:45 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> So clueless. Look up job opportunities in your city or town. See what
>>> trashmen make. In my city, they make up to $45K per year, plus tons of
>>> benefits and full retirement.
>>
>> WRONG!
>>
>> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>>
>> Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
>> Updated Apr 25, 2016
>> National Avg
>> $35,890
>> Min Max
>> $28k $53k
>> How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
>> The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890.
>>
>>
> You haven't a clue what garbage collectors make in Gary's town.
> You think because you read the 'national average' then it's the
> absolute gospel. Get your head out of the oven.
>

Does not matter. Come November we'll all be making $15/hour. It must be
good, everyone wants it.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 21:18:24 -0600, Capulin > wrote:

>On 5/24/2016 7:29 PM, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:25:40 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/24/2016 9:45 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> So clueless. Look up job opportunities in your city or town. See what
>>>> trashmen make. In my city, they make up to $45K per year, plus tons of
>>>> benefits and full retirement.
>>>
>>> WRONG!
>>>
>>> https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm
>>>
>>> Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
>>> Updated Apr 25, 2016
>>> National Avg
>>> $35,890
>>> Min Max
>>> $28k $53k
>>> How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
>>> The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890.
>>>
>>>
>> You haven't a clue what garbage collectors make in Gary's town.
>
>Nor do you.
>
>> You think because you read the 'national average' then it's the
>> absolute gospel. Get your head out of the oven.
>
>An average is just that, numerically speaking.
>
>You will note that I also cited the top and bottom of that distribution,
>you dizzy self-absorbed snit!


NYC sanitation workers are paid around $100,000 a year

"Does it really matter?" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/24/2016 04:55, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> There is a place that looks similar to the one in your link that is in
>> the Skagit Valley area. I have been there a few times but bought no
>> produce. It far enough from home and the day was hot enough that the
>> stuff wouldn't have made it back here in a fresh state.
>
> 54 miles from Mt. Vernon, Wa. (Skagit Co.) to your dump. About an hour.
> And of course your car has no air conditioning, or a cooler that a
> rational person would pack to put things in, if that was a concern. Every
> time you supposedly went, the days were too hot? Really?
> You give people who live in Washington State a bad name.
> Sheesh.

We weren't out just driving around. We were there for the tulip festival and
to do some shopping. We were out all day so the AC in the car was rather
meaningless. Leave lettuce in your car on a hot day and see what happens.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 5/24/2016 2:12 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > The cameras are not there specifically to watch for those things.
>> > > They are traffic cams. But if they do get a pic of you tossing
>> > > something out the window, you will get a ticket! There are signs
>> > > all over warning of littering and what the fine is. $500.
>> >
>> > There are laws against littering in every state. No one was
>> > talking about throwing food or anything else out of car windows to
>> > be caught on traffic-cams. He meant he throws things like apple
>> > cores, etc. outside in the YARD for the wild critters to eat.
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> Please keep up Jill. Someone did say that they throw stuff out of
>> their car window.
>
> No Julie, his was the only comment and you translated 'out the window'
> to 'out the car window' in your own mind. The rest understood by
> inference when he spoke of the local wildlife critters that is was his
> own yard.

How in the world could anyone throw something out their house window? Don't
you people have screens?