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"Jeus" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:07:51 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:23:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeus" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>Much of the produce section has been remodeled yet again and it would
>>>>>>seem
>>>>>>that now they mainly have prepackaged stuff. Husband came home from
>>>>>>his
>>>>>>business trips while we were shopping and I had hoped to get him some
>>>>>>fruit.
>>>>>>But most didn't look good at all. I got some small green grapes which
>>>>>>may
>>>>>>or may not be good, 5 oranges and a small clam pack of sliced apples.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sliced apples? Really? Why on earth would anyone want such a thing?
>>>>
>>>>Because they are easily portable. You have no core to dispose of.
>>>
>>> What? The core?!? So what?
>>>
>>>>Here,
>>>>food must be recycled so this can create a problem if you're out.
>>>
>>> Can the core not be placed in a bin?

>>
>>It can only be placed in a food/yard waste bin, which we have at home.
>>Restaurants, some food stores and some parks have them as well.
>>Otherwise,
>>they're not commonly available. You can also put in a compost pile if you
>>have one.

>
> I'm sorry Julie, but I can't accept your claim that you cannot dispose
> of an apple core in a public place other than in some food stores and
> some parks. It just doesn't make any sense on so many levels.
>
> The implication being is that no food can be consumed in a public
> place unless you also take any food waste home with you or find a
> specific bin located in food stores or some parks beggars belief.
>
>>>>Can throw
>>>>the bag away but not a core. Have to find a proper disposal place.
>>>
>>> A 'proper disposal place' for an apple core. You must be shitting me.

>>
>>No. And this not new. I have mentioned it countless times before. This
>>is
>>one reason why I don't like cutting up fruit such as melons at home. Just
>>too much bother.

>
> mmm... sure. it's amazing how you manage to come up with so much stuff
> that ONLY happens in Bothell and nowhere else.


It doesn't. This is for unincorporated Snohomish county but... Bothell has
similar rules. So does Seattle, Shoreline and other areas here.

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On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 5:08:04 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:23:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>>Much of the produce section has been remodeled yet again and it would
> >>>>seem
> >>>>that now they mainly have prepackaged stuff. Husband came home from
> >>>>his
> >>>>business trips while we were shopping and I had hoped to get him some
> >>>>fruit.
> >>>>But most didn't look good at all. I got some small green grapes which
> >>>>may
> >>>>or may not be good, 5 oranges and a small clam pack of sliced apples.
> >>>
> >>> Sliced apples? Really? Why on earth would anyone want such a thing?
> >>
> >>Because they are easily portable. You have no core to dispose of.

> >
> > What? The core?!? So what?
> >
> >>Here,
> >>food must be recycled so this can create a problem if you're out.

> >
> > Can the core not be placed in a bin?

>
> It can only be placed in a food/yard waste bin, which we have at home.
> Restaurants, some food stores and some parks have them as well.
> Otherwise,
> they're not commonly available. You can also put in a compost pile if you
> have one.
> >
> >>Can throw
> >>the bag away but not a core. Have to find a proper disposal place.

> >
> > A 'proper disposal place' for an apple core. You must be shitting me.

>
> No. And this not new. I have mentioned it countless times before. This
> is
> one reason why I don't like cutting up fruit such as melons at home. Just
> too much bother.


Consider that the produce dep't has to pay wages to these apple slicers and
cabbage shredders...no wonder that the cost is higher for these and other
prepared products.
Julie, you could save a fortune every year by cutting up your produce. Just
think of what you could do with the savings.
====

You think the produce department does that? No.

You might be all about savings. I'm not. If I buy a head of cabbage, there
will be considerable waste. I would use a small amount for slaw. Would be
better for me to buy a small bag or even made up slaw.

Please do not tell me the many things that cabbage can be used for. We
won't eat them.

As for the apples, we all eat the slices. Usually no waste there.

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> On 5/22/2016 7:51 PM, Roy wrote:
>> Consider that the produce dep't has to pay wages to these apple slicers
>> and cabbage shredders...no wonder that the cost is higher for these and
>> other prepared products.
>> Julie, you could save a fortune every year by cutting up your produce.
>> Just think of what you could do with the savings.
>> ====

> But, but, but... she's not allowed to dispose of apple cores!


Why do you people lie? Cores must go in the yard waste. And if I want to buy
sliced apples, why should anyone here care? Should I start harping at
people who buy meat? Why not go shoot something and butcher it? Oh hey!
You can make shoes and a purse from the hide! And think of all the bone
broth you can make.

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"Jeus" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:19:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Jeus" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 15:49:10 -0500, Sky >
>>> wrote:
>>>>Doesn't everyone know the 'food police' are around every corner en-mass
>>>>in the universe of bothell just waiting for scofflaws to improperly
>>>>dispose all the apple cores in the wrong bins(?)!! Yeesh is right.
>>>
>>> The Bothell police must be corrupt to the core.
>>> OK, I admit that joke was as bad as Dave's in another thread.

>>
>>The Bothell Police do not serve the area where I live.
>>I gather that the rest of the world and even this country does not live
>>like
>>we do here.

>
> You can say that again.
>
>>We are very green here. Recycling has been mandatory here for a
>>very long time.

>
> Much like most other places in the westernised world. So Bothell isn't
> all that different, after all.
>

I can't speak for where you're at. But there are parts of this country who
either do not have recycling or might have it but require you to take it to
them.

>>The food thing is fairly new to some areas. A recent post on
>>Facebook was from a woman saying that the maintenance man was checking
>>their
>>bins. She felt violated. But... They can fine us for doing wrong. So I'm
>>sure the man was just doing his job.

>
> Sounds like a wonderful place to live.


Dunno.

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"Jeus" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
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>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>> priceless!!!!!

>>
>>Oh? Read it and weep.
>>
>>http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>
>>http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>
>>Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!

>
> None of which explains why you can't dispose of an apple core in a
> public place, in a public trash can. Come on Julie, even you would
> have to admit that your claim is absurd.


Because it is a TRASH can and an apple core is not TRASH! Sure, I could do
that. I could also run lights, stab people... I don't do those things
either. Put food in someone else's trash and they could be fined. Just not
cool.



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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 5/22/2016 7:43 PM, Je�us wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>>> priceless!!!!!
>>>
>>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>>
>>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>>
>>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>>
>>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!

>>
>> None of which explains why you can't dispose of an apple core in a
>> public place, in a public trash can. Come on Julie, even you would
>> have to admit that your claim is absurd.
>>

> She won't admit it. She merely posted links about disposal services in
> her area. Nowhere does it say you must buy cored/sliced apples, which was
> what she was looking for. When asked why, she came up with a ridiculous
> claim about not being allowed to dispose of apple cores like normal people
> do - in any convenient trash can.


You didn't read the links, did you? They say how to dispose of food.

I never said that I MUST buy sliced apples. We all like sliced apples. So I
buy them.

And "normal" people here do not dispose of food in trash cans here. People
who are not upstanding citizens do. Didn't you say that they don't even
recycle where you live?

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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> On 2016-05-22 7:43 PM, Je�us wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>>> priceless!!!!!
>>>
>>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>>
>>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>>
>>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>>
>>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!

>>
>> None of which explains why you can't dispose of an apple core in a
>> public place, in a public trash can. Come on Julie, even you would
>> have to admit that your claim is absurd.
>>

>
>
> Give her a month or two and she will deny she ever said it.


Said what? People can do all sorts of things. That doesn't make them right.
Fact is, we are not supposed to put food in trash cans. Not anywhere.

If you eat at Taco Time, you will be presented with assorted bins. They are
labeled and you are supposed to put things accordingly. One for food and
compostables such as some of their flatware, some for paper and plastic.
They have a very tiny bin for trash. It's the same size as what I use to
dispose of the strips for my blood sugar meter. Not even a foot tall. This
is for the entire restaurant.

Most places do not make you do this. They will take your plate and dispose
of things accordingly.

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 5/22/2016 7:26 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>> priceless!!!!!

>>
>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>
>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>

> That is not a LAW. It's a recycling service offered by Waste Management
> in some areas. A list. They do not say you are not allowed to throw away
> apple cores.
>
>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>
>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!

>
> How about *you* actually read it? Residential recycling *guidelines* for
> your county. No mention of anyone having to take an apple with a core
> home with them if they buy one and eat it someplace other than at home.


But I have gotten mailings and it has been on the news that we can be fined
for not doing right. I know what is right. And throwing an apple core in
the trash is not right.

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"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
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On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 6:48:23 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 5/22/2016 7:26 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
> >> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
> >> priceless!!!!!

> >
> > Oh? Read it and weep.
> >
> > http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
> >

> That is not a LAW. It's a recycling service offered by Waste Management
> in some areas. A list. They do not say you are not allowed to throw
> away apple cores.
>
> > http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf

....

we throw our apple cores in the compost! I bought a 2 gallon American made
plastic bucket with lid, for compost inside, and a cheap Chinese JUNK 55
gallon bin out in the back yard for compost, which I manually drilled a
bunch of 1/2 inch holes in the 55 gallon bin outside so the bugs can get in!

John Kuthe...

---
We could do that but I have no need for compost. So I use the green bin and
it is composted for me.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>> priceless!!!!!

>>
>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>
>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>
>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>
>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!

>
> Get real. That's for residential recycling/composting. It only
> applies to food waste you generate at home. It figures you're stupid
> enough to try and extrapolate that to mean it applies everywhere away
> from home.


Not true. It applies to restaurants as well. They showed a Starbucks
manager complaining on the news because he could be fined if a customer put
food in the trash. He said he didn't want to have to dig through the trash
but he was going to because he didn't want to be fined.



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"Orographic" > wrote in message
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> On 5/22/2016 9:10 PM, Sky wrote:
>> On 5/22/2016 8:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>>>> priceless!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!
>>>
>>> Get real. That's for residential recycling/composting. It only
>>> applies to food waste you generate at home. It figures you're stupid
>>> enough to try and extrapolate that to mean it applies everywhere away
>>> from home.

>>
>> There's no way to reason bove's reasonings! As usual, bove is rather
>> irrational. AFAIK, "recycling" anywhere in the USA is voluntary, not
>> obligatory by law. No doubt bove will refute.
>>
>> Sky
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> No doubt she will be right too:
>
> https://www.epa.gov/transforming-was...and-composting
>
> Some states and communities adopt mandatory recycling and composting laws
> and ordinances. Requiring all commercial and/or residential generators to
> recycle and/or compost means that local government or contractors must
> provide recycling and composting services to all customers.
> Communities don't have to couple exclusive agreements with mandatory
> recycling. Some jurisdictions have structured semi-exclusive agreements
> where a limited number of permits are available; similar to how cities
> distribute taxi cab medallions.
> Alternatively, "universal roll-out" can be provided, meaning that
> recycling, composting and waste bins and services are provided to all
> customers, rather having separate recycling and compost collection service
> subscription from trash collection. Local governments can also require
> service providers to offer recycling and composting services to all
> garbage customers as a condition of providing services.
> Case studies:
> San Francisco, CA
> Austin, TX
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycl..._United_States
>
> Since there is no national law that mandates recycling, state and local
> governments often introduce recycling requirements. A number of U.S.
> states, including California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine,
> Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, and Vermont have passed laws
> that establish deposits or refund values on beverage containers while
> other jurisdictions rely on recycling goals or landfill bans of recyclable
> materials.
>
> Mandatory recycling[edit]
> Some cities, such as Seattle, and states like Connecticut,[5] have created
> mandatory recycling laws that may fine citizens who throw away certain
> recyclable materials. Vermont also employed a landfill ban of recyclable
> materials, food and yard waste, and wood.[6] There are also voluntary
> programs and educational programs to increase recycling where it is not
> mandated by law.
>
> Mandatory recycling is the standard e.g. across all European Union since
> the 1990s. Recyclables are prohibited from households, businesses and
> apartment garbage. With businesses that would include cardboard, paper and
> yard waste which would be prohibited from their garbage. For apartments
> and houses, glass, paper, cardboard, aluminum and plastic would be
> prohibited. With businesses and apartments, if garbage collectors find
> more than 10 percent of the container filled with recyclables, they will
> leave a tag. On the third tag they will then leave a $50 fine. However,
> with households there can be no fining. If they do find garbage, they will
> leave a tag and ask you to sort out your garbage that they will then
> collect the next week.[7]


Thank you! The food composting was not mandatory at first and in some areas
is still strongly suggested but it is mandatory in others. Our yard waste
pickup used to be every other week except for warmer months. Now it is
weekly. Because they know there will likely always be something in the bin.

When we first moved to Washington, we did have a bottle deposit. They did
away with it when they realized that the people who live here will willingly
recycle.

There is one dairy I know of that does charge a deposit on bottles. But
that's so they will get them back as opposed to having them recycled.

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> wrote in message
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> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 6:26:26 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>> > has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>> > priceless!!!!!

>>
>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>
>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>
>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>
>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!
>>
>>

> Oh Julie, Julie, Julie I am constantly amazed (I don't know
> why) by the stupidity that you spew and act like it is the
> gospel. Of course you retarded idiot you can throw away
> an apple core. Pleeeeeease don't tell me you are actually
> this simple minded and utterly stupid. It boggles the mind
> to think you have actually lived this long without being
> institutionalized and have also bred.
>
> You post silly stuff like this just for attention.


I'm just glad none of you live here. You wouldn't fare very well at all.

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 5/22/2016 4:15 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:23:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jeus" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But most didn't look good at all. I got some small green grapes which
>>>>> may
>>>>> or may not be good, 5 oranges and a small clam pack of sliced apples.
>>>>
>>>> Sliced apples? Really? Why on earth would anyone want such a thing?
>>>
>>> Because they are easily portable. You have no core to dispose of.
>>> Here,
>>> food must be recycled so this can create a problem if you're out.

>>
>> That sounds dumber than a rock. How is an apple not portable? DUH
>> What prevents you from coring the apple prior to going out?!?!?

>
> (snippage)
>
> Don't you understand? She claims there is some law which doesn't allow
> her to dispose of apple cores. "Food must be recycled". That translates
> to she cannot buy apples and core and slice them herself. She wasn't
> going out, she was buying the apples to bring them home. Apparently her
> husband can't figure out how to core and slice an apple, either.
>
> She seems to buy a lot of pre-packaged alledgedly fresh produce. I pass
> that stuff by immediately.
>
> Jill


That is not what I said at all Jill. And I don't care what you pass by.
I've seen you posting what you eat. I'd rather go hungry.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:23:36 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Because they are easily portable. You have no core to dispose of. Here,
>> food must be recycled so this can create a problem if you're out.

>
> Oh, please - the law stipulates that if you're eating an apple walking
> down the street or at a park that you can't throw the core away in the
> nearest trash can? I don't think so.


You're supposed to put it in a food waste bin which many parks and other
places that serve food do have. Put it in the trash and the business owner
can be fined. These links are for Seattle and they have a different waste
company but the rules are still the same.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...fined-for-that

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/curtis-k...g-food-garbage

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/artic...sh-5983805.php

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...s-start-jan-1/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29336968

I could go on. There are many more links.
>
> BTW, 'recycled food'? You know what they call that, right?
>
> -sw


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On 5/23/2016 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/22/2016 7:43 PM, Je�us wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>>>> priceless!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!
>>>
>>> None of which explains why you can't dispose of an apple core in a
>>> public place, in a public trash can. Come on Julie, even you would
>>> have to admit that your claim is absurd.
>>>

>> She won't admit it. She merely posted links about disposal services
>> in her area. Nowhere does it say you must buy cored/sliced apples,
>> which was what she was looking for. When asked why, she came up with
>> a ridiculous claim about not being allowed to dispose of apple cores
>> like normal people do - in any convenient trash can.

>
> You didn't read the links, did you? They say how to dispose of food.
>
> I never said that I MUST buy sliced apples. We all like sliced apples.
> So I buy them.
>
> And "normal" people here do not dispose of food in trash cans here.
> People who are not upstanding citizens do. Didn't you say that they
> don't even recycle where you live?


More than likely, bove has no clue what "normal" folks usually do!
Normal people don't search and find "guidelines" then pseudo-claim
that's the law which bove has implicitly "implied" !!!

Oh my - beware the snohomish county (er, the universe of bothell -
whatever) food police -- they're always right around the corner lurking
to give gullible citizens citations because they don't conform to . . .
.. stayed tuned . . . don't change that channel . . . more upcoming
episodes to appear !!!

Sky

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> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I have an extremely picky eater coming to stay here

>
> What do you consider a picky eater?


Someone who will only eat certain things and not others. This person in
particular won't eat most vegetables or condiments and doesn't like spicy
foods. I have determined that she will eat ham and American cheese on white
bread, chicken strips, fries and tots, BLTs, plain chips, plain hamburgers,
one kind of Lunchachble, one kind of ice cream. She may well eat additional
things, but I know these things for sure so I will have at least some of
these things when she first comes. Then we'll all go shopping and I can get
other things.

Husband is home now and the cupboards and fridge are rapidly emptying. We'll
need more food soon.

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> On 5/22/2016 7:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I have an extremely picky eater coming to stay here

>>
>> What do you consider a picky eater?
>>
>> -sw
>>

> Everyone in her household and then some?


Nope. Husband isn't picky.

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"Animas" > wrote in message ...
> On 5/22/2016 6:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/22/2016 7:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an extremely picky eater coming to stay here
>>>
>>> What do you consider a picky eater?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>

>> Everyone in her household and then some?
>>
>> Jill

>
> Didn't take you long to come back and pile on...


I guess she ran out of vegetables to steam.

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On 5/23/2016 2:10 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "Jeus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:19:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> "Jeus" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 15:49:10 -0500, Sky >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Doesn't everyone know the 'food police' are around every
>>>>> corner en-mass in the universe of bothell just waiting for
>>>>> scofflaws to improperly dispose all the apple cores in the
>>>>> wrong bins(?)!! Yeesh is right.
>>>>
>>>> The Bothell police must be corrupt to the core. OK, I admit
>>>> that joke was as bad as Dave's in another thread.
>>>
>>> The Bothell Police do not serve the area where I live. I gather
>>> that the rest of the world and even this country does not live
>>> like we do here.

>>
>> You can say that again.
>>
>>> We are very green here. Recycling has been mandatory here for a
>>> very long time.

>>
>> Much like most other places in the westernised world. So Bothell
>> isn't all that different, after all.
>>

> I can't speak for where you're at. But there are parts of this
> country who either do not have recycling or might have it but require
> you to take it to them.
>
>>> The food thing is fairly new to some areas. A recent post on
>>> Facebook was from a woman saying that the maintenance man was
>>> checking their bins. She felt violated. But... They can fine us
>>> for doing wrong. So I'm sure the man was just doing his job.

>> Sounds like a wonderful place to live.

>
> Dunno.


Of course bove says "dunno"! Just wait, bove will state she cannot
remember any details (SOP). Bove has lived in the universe of bothell
(snohomish county, WA?) for some years now and still has no clue about
'normal' living -- no new news there!

AFIAK, "recycling" unused foods is voluntary, not mandatory by law! Oh
dear - where are those "food police" when they're needed??!!

I dare bove to find and cite the civil ordinance for bove's area to make
such a ridiculous claim -- I guarantee if it does exist, it's online at
a 'valid' website officially sponsored by the city/county/whatever!!!
Bove won't be able to because such a 'rule/law' does not exist.

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On 5/23/2016 2:03 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jeus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:07:51 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Jeus" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:23:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeus" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> Much of the produce section has been remodeled yet again
>>>>>>> and it would seem that now they mainly have prepackaged
>>>>>>> stuff. Husband came home from his business trips while we
>>>>>>> were shopping and I had hoped to get him some fruit. But
>>>>>>> most didn't look good at all. I got some small green
>>>>>>> grapes which may or may not be good, 5 oranges and a
>>>>>>> small clam pack of sliced apples.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sliced apples? Really? Why on earth would anyone want such
>>>>>> a thing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because they are easily portable. You have no core to dispose
>>>>> of.
>>>>
>>>> What? The core?!? So what?
>>>>
>>>>> Here, food must be recycled so this can create a problem if
>>>>> you're out.
>>>>
>>>> Can the core not be placed in a bin?
>>>
>>> It can only be placed in a food/yard waste bin, which we have at
>>> home. Restaurants, some food stores and some parks have them as
>>> well. Otherwise, they're not commonly available. You can also put
>>> in a compost pile if you have one.

>>
>> I'm sorry Julie, but I can't accept your claim that you cannot
>> dispose of an apple core in a public place other than in some food
>> stores and some parks. It just doesn't make any sense on so many
>> levels.
>>
>> The implication being is that no food can be consumed in a public
>> place unless you also take any food waste home with you or find a
>> specific bin located in food stores or some parks beggars belief.
>>
>>>>> Can throw the bag away but not a core. Have to find a proper
>>>>> disposal place.
>>>>
>>>> A 'proper disposal place' for an apple core. You must be
>>>> shitting me.
>>>
>>> No. And this not new. I have mentioned it countless times
>>> before. This is one reason why I don't like cutting up fruit such
>>> as melons at home. Just too much bother.

>>
>> mmm... sure. it's amazing how you manage to come up with so much stuff
>> that ONLY happens in Bothell and nowhere else.

>
> It doesn't. This is for unincorporated Snohomish county but... Bothell
> has similar rules. So does Seattle, Shoreline and other areas here.


PROVE IT bove. Provide the citations that are nearly guaranteed to be
available online. Practically every USA township, city, metropolitan
area large and small, etc. has their laws/rules/ordinances available
online. It's a simple search you can do -- so PROVE IT! You claim it's
the "rule" (and imply it's the law!!), so provide the valid citations!
Oh but wait, you won't be able to remember . . . SOP again.

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On 5/23/2016 2:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/22/2016 7:51 PM, Roy wrote:
>>> Consider that the produce dep't has to pay wages to these apple
>>> slicers and cabbage shredders...no wonder that the cost is higher for
>>> these and other prepared products.
>>> Julie, you could save a fortune every year by cutting up your
>>> produce. Just think of what you could do with the savings.
>>> ====

>> But, but, but... she's not allowed to dispose of apple cores!

>
> Why do you people lie? Cores must go in the yard waste. And if I want to
> buy sliced apples, why should anyone here care? Should I start harping
> at people who buy meat? Why not go shoot something and butcher it? Oh
> hey! You can make shoes and a purse from the hide! And think of all the
> bone broth you can make.


No one here in RFC is lying. Bove, as usual, misunderstands the
"imagined rules" with regard to 'recycling'! I DARE BOVE to find such a
rule/law that states otherwise. BOVE won't be able to find any such
explicit law because it probably does not exist - at least not in the
universe of bothell.

Egads, how many folks have garbage disposals in their kitchen .... what
laws do folks have to follow if there is such a contraption in their
home? Oh my -- call the food police because millions of folks break the
law(s) if they use such a thing to dispose of their apple cores!!!
YIKES, the country's running amok!

There may be rules that state "IF" someone does recycle, then please
follow such-n-such 'guidelines'. End of story. But such a simple
concept seems to be beyond bove's comprehension.

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On 5/22/2016 10:39 PM, Orographic wrote:
> On 5/22/2016 9:10 PM, Sky wrote:
>> On 5/22/2016 8:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>>>> priceless!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!
>>>
>>> Get real. That's for residential recycling/composting. It only
>>> applies to food waste you generate at home. It figures you're stupid
>>> enough to try and extrapolate that to mean it applies everywhere away
>>> from home.

>>
>> There's no way to reason bove's reasonings! As usual, bove is rather
>> irrational. AFAIK, "recycling" anywhere in the USA is voluntary, not
>> obligatory by law. No doubt bove will refute.
>>

> No doubt she will be right too:
>
> https://www.epa.gov/transforming-was...and-composting
>
>
> Some states and communities adopt mandatory recycling and composting
> laws and ordinances. Requiring all commercial and/or residential
> generators to recycle and/or compost means that local government or
> contractors must provide recycling and composting services to all
> customers.
> Communities don't have to couple exclusive agreements with mandatory
> recycling. Some jurisdictions have structured semi-exclusive
> agreements where a limited number of permits are available; similar to
> how cities distribute taxi cab medallions.
> Alternatively, "universal roll-out" can be provided, meaning that
> recycling, composting and waste bins and services are provided to all
> customers, rather having separate recycling and compost collection
> service subscription from trash collection. Local governments can also
> require service providers to offer recycling and composting services to
> all garbage customers as a condition of providing services.
> Case studies:
> San Francisco, CA
> Austin, TX
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycl..._United_States
>
> Since there is no national law that mandates recycling, state and local
> governments often introduce recycling requirements. A number of U.S.
> states, including California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa,
> Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, and Vermont have
> passed laws that establish deposits or refund values on beverage
> containers while other jurisdictions rely on recycling goals or landfill
> bans of recyclable materials.
>
> Mandatory recycling[edit]
> Some cities, such as Seattle, and states like Connecticut,[5] have
> created mandatory recycling laws that may fine citizens who throw away
> certain recyclable materials. Vermont also employed a landfill ban of
> recyclable materials, food and yard waste, and wood.[6] There are also
> voluntary programs and educational programs to increase recycling where
> it is not mandated by law.
>
> Mandatory recycling is the standard e.g. across all European Union since
> the 1990s. Recyclables are prohibited from households, businesses and
> apartment garbage. With businesses that would include cardboard, paper
> and yard waste which would be prohibited from their garbage. For
> apartments and houses, glass, paper, cardboard, aluminum and plastic
> would be prohibited. With businesses and apartments, if garbage
> collectors find more than 10 percent of the container filled with
> recyclables, they will leave a tag. On the third tag they will then
> leave a $50 fine. However, with households there can be no fining. If
> they do find garbage, they will leave a tag and ask you to sort out your
> garbage that they will then collect the next week.[7]


Thank you for providing the above URL citations from the US-EPA and
Wikipedia -- neither of which provide specific ordinances (laws) for
individual US cities/townships/etc. Both state broad "guidelines" and
are non-specific. None of the above applies until bove provides exact
citations that pertain to the 'universe of bothell'.

I do agree, however, that certain materials cannot and should not be
thrown away in the trash and dumped in landfills, e.g., electronics,
batteries, heavy metals, etc., and it is illegal to do so. Hence many
areas suffer illegal dumping sites of refrigerators, furniture,
vehicular tires, medical wastes and contaminants, hazardous chemicals,
PCBs, and more in semi- and rural areas along road-side ditches and such.

In this instance of bove's absurd apple core, it's doubtful none of the
above applies. Leave it to bove to use the "apple core" (quickly
biodegradable in terms of time) as an extreme example. Oh the drama . . . .

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> I gather that the rest of the world and even this country does not live
> like we do here. We are very green here. Recycling has been mandatory here
> for a very long time. The food thing is fairly new to some areas. A recent
> post on Facebook was from a woman saying that the maintenance man was
> checking their bins. She felt violated. But... They can fine us for doing
> wrong. So I'm sure the man was just doing his job.
>
> When we lived in CA, the housing office did routine checks on our bins. A
> violation could cause us to lose our housing. I well remember the angry
> knock on the door at 7:00 a.m. one morning. The man was yelling at me,
> telling me that if the item was not removed from the alley in 30 minutes,
> we would lose our military housing. I had no clue what he was talking
> about. Turned out that my husband set a broken microwave by the trash can,
> thinking they would pick it up. Nope. Things like that can't just be
> thrown out here either. They have to go to special disposal stations and
> often there is a small fee for disposal.


I have read of this kind of stuff happening in England, but not here yet.
There have been reports of bin men refusing to empty a bin because there was
something in it they objected to.


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On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 7:26:11 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > I gather that the rest of the world and even this country does not live
> > like we do here. We are very green here. Recycling has been mandatory here
> > for a very long time. The food thing is fairly new to some areas. A recent
> > post on Facebook was from a woman saying that the maintenance man was
> > checking their bins. She felt violated. But... They can fine us for doing
> > wrong. So I'm sure the man was just doing his job.
> >
> > When we lived in CA, the housing office did routine checks on our bins. A
> > violation could cause us to lose our housing. I well remember the angry
> > knock on the door at 7:00 a.m. one morning. The man was yelling at me,
> > telling me that if the item was not removed from the alley in 30 minutes,
> > we would lose our military housing. I had no clue what he was talking
> > about. Turned out that my husband set a broken microwave by the trash can,
> > thinking they would pick it up. Nope. Things like that can't just be
> > thrown out here either. They have to go to special disposal stations and
> > often there is a small fee for disposal.

>
> I have read of this kind of stuff happening in England, but not here yet.
> There have been reports of bin men refusing to empty a bin because there was
> something in it they objected to.


For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.

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On 5/23/2016 3:48 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "Animas" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/22/2016 6:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2016 7:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have an extremely picky eater coming to stay here
>>>>
>>>> What do you consider a picky eater?
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> Everyone in her household and then some?
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> Didn't take you long to come back and pile on...

>
> I guess she ran out of vegetables to steam.


Nope, I grilled them instead.

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 7:26:11 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > I gather that the rest of the world and even this country does not live
>> > like we do here. We are very green here. Recycling has been mandatory
>> > here
>> > for a very long time. The food thing is fairly new to some areas. A
>> > recent
>> > post on Facebook was from a woman saying that the maintenance man was
>> > checking their bins. She felt violated. But... They can fine us for
>> > doing
>> > wrong. So I'm sure the man was just doing his job.
>> >
>> > When we lived in CA, the housing office did routine checks on our bins.
>> > A
>> > violation could cause us to lose our housing. I well remember the angry
>> > knock on the door at 7:00 a.m. one morning. The man was yelling at me,
>> > telling me that if the item was not removed from the alley in 30
>> > minutes,
>> > we would lose our military housing. I had no clue what he was talking
>> > about. Turned out that my husband set a broken microwave by the trash
>> > can,
>> > thinking they would pick it up. Nope. Things like that can't just be
>> > thrown out here either. They have to go to special disposal stations
>> > and
>> > often there is a small fee for disposal.

>>
>> I have read of this kind of stuff happening in England, but not here yet.
>> There have been reports of bin men refusing to empty a bin because there
>> was
>> something in it they objected to.

>
> For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
> comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
> something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
> the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.


Blimey! Here a man will take the bin to the back of the lorry and attach it
to a lift things which will empty the bin into the back. It then comes back
down and he replaces it.

Not like the old days though. The bin men would come all the way into your
back yard to take it (on his shoulder) to the lorry, empty it and bring it
all the way back! Now, it seems the bins have to be in a particular places
and you take them and bring them back yourself.

Sigh .. changed days. Incidentally, there was some news on the radio about
some woman having died and in her back garden they found her husband wrapped
in plastic and rolled in carpet!! He was mummified!! No one had any idea
how long he had been there. No need to stick 'em in your bin



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> For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
> comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
> something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
> the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.

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Cheri > wrote:
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
>
>> For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
>> comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
>> something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
>> the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton

>
> Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
> truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
>
> Cheri
>
>


That's the way it's done here too but imagine my surprise when I saw them
doing it by hand at our Florida residence! We still have to bring it out
to the curb but the waste haulers walk from driveway to driveway (for the
most part) and sling it into the truck by hand. I think those guys should
get significant bonus pay for that!

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On Mon, 23 May 2016 09:04:06 -0500, jinx the minx
> wrote:

> That's the way it's done here too but imagine my surprise when I saw them
> doing it by hand at our Florida residence! We still have to bring it out
> to the curb but the waste haulers walk from driveway to driveway (for the
> most part) and sling it into the truck by hand. I think those guys should
> get significant bonus pay for that!


They probably make less, not more. Technology only improves when the
cost of human labor goes up, until then - they're just another cog in
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On 5/22/2016 10:08 PM, wrote:
> What I find astounding is Julie has not been committed yet
> for the safety of her family and community.


What I find astounding is what a ****ing useless BULLY BIOTCH you are!


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On 5/22/2016 7:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You know what they call that, right?
>
> -sw
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
> "OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
> Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
> entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
> baby carrots".
>
> -sw
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
> I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.
>
> -sw
>
> You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
> written down the once you realized you liked it.
>
> -sw
>
> Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
> spite.
>
> -sw
>
> Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.
>
> [High Five]
>
> -sw
>
> Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.
>
> -sw
>
> You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.
>
> -sw
>
> You tell him Julie!
>
> <snort>
>
> -sw
>
> That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
> couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
> how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
> explain why the proposed solution won't work.
>
> Same 'ol song and dance.
>
> -sw
>
> <snip rest unread>
>
> -sw
>
> So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
> years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
> have been your direct experience with the New York public school
> system in the early 2000's?
>
> -sw
>
> What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
> amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
> world.
>
> -sw
>
>
> Again, only in YOUR house.
>
> -sw

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On 5/22/2016 7:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> it applies everywhere away
> from home.
>
> -sw
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
> "OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
> Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
> entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
> baby carrots".
>
> -sw
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
> I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.
>
> -sw
>
> You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
> written down the once you realized you liked it.
>
> -sw
>
> Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
> spite.
>
> -sw
>
> Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.
>
> [High Five]
>
> -sw
>
> Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.
>
> -sw
>
> You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.
>
> -sw
>
> You tell him Julie!
>
> <snort>
>
> -sw
>
> That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
> couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
> how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
> explain why the proposed solution won't work.
>
> Same 'ol song and dance.
>
> -sw
>
> <snip rest unread>
>
> -sw
>
> So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
> years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
> have been your direct experience with the New York public school
> system in the early 2000's?
>
> -sw
>
> What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
> amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
> world.
>
> -sw
>
>
> Again, only in YOUR house.
>
> -sw

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On 5/23/2016 1:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Orographic" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/22/2016 9:10 PM, Sky wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2016 8:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>>>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>>>>> priceless!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!
>>>>
>>>> Get real. That's for residential recycling/composting. It only
>>>> applies to food waste you generate at home. It figures you're stupid
>>>> enough to try and extrapolate that to mean it applies everywhere away
>>>> from home.
>>>
>>> There's no way to reason bove's reasonings! As usual, bove is rather
>>> irrational. AFAIK, "recycling" anywhere in the USA is voluntary, not
>>> obligatory by law. No doubt bove will refute.
>>>
>>> Sky
>>>
>>> ================================
>>> Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer!
>>> Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice!
>>> ================================
>>>

>> No doubt she will be right too:
>>
>> https://www.epa.gov/transforming-was...and-composting
>>
>>
>> Some states and communities adopt mandatory recycling and composting
>> laws and ordinances. Requiring all commercial and/or residential
>> generators to recycle and/or compost means that local government or
>> contractors must provide recycling and composting services to all
>> customers.
>> Communities don't have to couple exclusive agreements with mandatory
>> recycling. Some jurisdictions have structured semi-exclusive
>> agreements where a limited number of permits are available; similar to
>> how cities distribute taxi cab medallions.
>> Alternatively, "universal roll-out" can be provided, meaning that
>> recycling, composting and waste bins and services are provided to all
>> customers, rather having separate recycling and compost collection
>> service subscription from trash collection. Local governments can also
>> require service providers to offer recycling and composting services
>> to all garbage customers as a condition of providing services.
>> Case studies:
>> San Francisco, CA
>> Austin, TX
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycl..._United_States
>>
>> Since there is no national law that mandates recycling, state and
>> local governments often introduce recycling requirements. A number of
>> U.S. states, including California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii,
>> Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, and Vermont
>> have passed laws that establish deposits or refund values on beverage
>> containers while other jurisdictions rely on recycling goals or
>> landfill bans of recyclable materials.
>>
>> Mandatory recycling[edit]
>> Some cities, such as Seattle, and states like Connecticut,[5] have
>> created mandatory recycling laws that may fine citizens who throw away
>> certain recyclable materials. Vermont also employed a landfill ban of
>> recyclable materials, food and yard waste, and wood.[6] There are also
>> voluntary programs and educational programs to increase recycling
>> where it is not mandated by law.
>>
>> Mandatory recycling is the standard e.g. across all European Union
>> since the 1990s. Recyclables are prohibited from households,
>> businesses and apartment garbage. With businesses that would include
>> cardboard, paper and yard waste which would be prohibited from their
>> garbage. For apartments and houses, glass, paper, cardboard, aluminum
>> and plastic would be prohibited. With businesses and apartments, if
>> garbage collectors find more than 10 percent of the container filled
>> with recyclables, they will leave a tag. On the third tag they will
>> then leave a $50 fine. However, with households there can be no
>> fining. If they do find garbage, they will leave a tag and ask you to
>> sort out your garbage that they will then collect the next week.[7]

>
> Thank you!


You are 100% welcome.

I detest feckless liars.

> The food composting was not mandatory at first and in some
> areas is still strongly suggested but it is mandatory in others. Our
> yard waste pickup used to be every other week except for warmer months.
> Now it is weekly. Because they know there will likely always be
> something in the bin.
>
> When we first moved to Washington, we did have a bottle deposit. They
> did away with it when they realized that the people who live here will
> willingly recycle.
>
> There is one dairy I know of that does charge a deposit on bottles. But
> that's so they will get them back as opposed to having them recycled.


I'm no fan of the nanny state legislating recycling, but if you folks
are good with that - rock on.



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On 5/23/2016 1:41 AM, Sky wrote:
> More than likely, bove has no clue what "normal" folks usually do!



You have been caught in an overt LIE.

You need to slink away and never return.
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On 5/23/2016 1:59 AM, Sky wrote:
> Of course bove says "dunno"! Just wait, bove will state she cannot
> remember any details (SOP).


You have been caught in an overt LIE.

You need to slink away and never return.
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On 5/23/2016 2:07 AM, Sky wrote:
> PROVE IT bove. Provide the citations that are nearly guaranteed to be
> available online.

You have been caught in an overt LIE.

You need to slink away and never return.
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On 5/23/2016 2:20 AM, Sky wrote:

> There may be rules that state "IF" someone does recycle, then please
> follow such-n-such 'guidelines'. End of story.


No, LIAR, it is NOT the "end of story".

Here - read it again, you mendacious oaf:


https://www.epa.gov/transforming-was...and-composting

Some states and communities adopt mandatory recycling and composting
laws and ordinances. Requiring all commercial and/or residential
generators to recycle and/or compost means that local government or
contractors must provide recycling and composting services to all customers.
Communities don't have to couple exclusive agreements with mandatory
recycling. Some jurisdictions have structured semi-exclusive
agreements where a limited number of permits are available; similar to
how cities distribute taxi cab medallions.
Alternatively, "universal roll-out" can be provided, meaning that
recycling, composting and waste bins and services are provided to all
customers, rather having separate recycling and compost collection
service subscription from trash collection. Local governments can also
require service providers to offer recycling and composting services to
all garbage customers as a condition of providing services.
Case studies:
San Francisco, CA
Austin, TX

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycl..._United_States

Since there is no national law that mandates recycling, state and local
governments often introduce recycling requirements. A number of U.S.
states, including California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa,
Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, and Vermont have
passed laws that establish deposits or refund values on beverage
containers while other jurisdictions rely on recycling goals or landfill
bans of recyclable materials.

Mandatory recycling[edit]
Some cities, such as Seattle, and states like Connecticut,[5] have
created mandatory recycling laws that may fine citizens who throw away
certain recyclable materials. Vermont also employed a landfill ban of
recyclable materials, food and yard waste, and wood.[6] There are also
voluntary programs and educational programs to increase recycling where
it is not mandated by law.

Mandatory recycling is the standard e.g. across all European Union since
the 1990s. Recyclables are prohibited from households, businesses and
apartment garbage. With businesses that would include cardboard, paper
and yard waste which would be prohibited from their garbage. For
apartments and houses, glass, paper, cardboard, aluminum and plastic
would be prohibited. With businesses and apartments, if garbage
collectors find more than 10 percent of the container filled with
recyclables, they will leave a tag. On the third tag they will then
leave a $50 fine. However, with households there can be no fining. If
they do find garbage, they will leave a tag and ask you to sort out your
garbage that they will then collect the next week.[7]




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On 5/23/2016 3:17 AM, Sky wrote:
> On 5/22/2016 10:39 PM, Orographic wrote:
>> On 5/22/2016 9:10 PM, Sky wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2016 8:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>>>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>>>>> priceless!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh? Read it and weep.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!
>>>>
>>>> Get real. That's for residential recycling/composting. It only
>>>> applies to food waste you generate at home. It figures you're stupid
>>>> enough to try and extrapolate that to mean it applies everywhere away
>>>> from home.
>>>
>>> There's no way to reason bove's reasonings! As usual, bove is rather
>>> irrational. AFAIK, "recycling" anywhere in the USA is voluntary, not
>>> obligatory by law. No doubt bove will refute.
>>>

>> No doubt she will be right too:
>>
>> https://www.epa.gov/transforming-was...and-composting
>>
>>
>>
>> Some states and communities adopt mandatory recycling and composting
>> laws and ordinances. Requiring all commercial and/or residential
>> generators to recycle and/or compost means that local government or
>> contractors must provide recycling and composting services to all
>> customers.
>> Communities don't have to couple exclusive agreements with mandatory
>> recycling. Some jurisdictions have structured semi-exclusive
>> agreements where a limited number of permits are available; similar to
>> how cities distribute taxi cab medallions.
>> Alternatively, "universal roll-out" can be provided, meaning that
>> recycling, composting and waste bins and services are provided to all
>> customers, rather having separate recycling and compost collection
>> service subscription from trash collection. Local governments can also
>> require service providers to offer recycling and composting services to
>> all garbage customers as a condition of providing services.
>> Case studies:
>> San Francisco, CA
>> Austin, TX
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycl..._United_States
>>
>> Since there is no national law that mandates recycling, state and local
>> governments often introduce recycling requirements. A number of U.S.
>> states, including California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa,
>> Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, and Vermont have
>> passed laws that establish deposits or refund values on beverage
>> containers while other jurisdictions rely on recycling goals or landfill
>> bans of recyclable materials.
>>
>> Mandatory recycling[edit]
>> Some cities, such as Seattle, and states like Connecticut,[5] have
>> created mandatory recycling laws that may fine citizens who throw away
>> certain recyclable materials. Vermont also employed a landfill ban of
>> recyclable materials, food and yard waste, and wood.[6] There are also
>> voluntary programs and educational programs to increase recycling where
>> it is not mandated by law.
>>
>> Mandatory recycling is the standard e.g. across all European Union since
>> the 1990s. Recyclables are prohibited from households, businesses and
>> apartment garbage. With businesses that would include cardboard, paper
>> and yard waste which would be prohibited from their garbage. For
>> apartments and houses, glass, paper, cardboard, aluminum and plastic
>> would be prohibited. With businesses and apartments, if garbage
>> collectors find more than 10 percent of the container filled with
>> recyclables, they will leave a tag. On the third tag they will then
>> leave a $50 fine. However, with households there can be no fining. If
>> they do find garbage, they will leave a tag and ask you to sort out your
>> garbage that they will then collect the next week.[7]

>
> Thank you for providing the above URL citations from the US-EPA and
> Wikipedia -- neither of which provide specific ordinances (laws)


You LOST the debate oaf - now slink out of here and try not to leave a
trail of slime.

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