On 5/23/2016 5:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I gather that the rest of the world and even this country does not
>> live like we do here. We are very green here. Recycling has been
>> mandatory here for a very long time. The food thing is fairly new to
>> some areas. A recent post on Facebook was from a woman saying that the
>> maintenance man was checking their bins. She felt violated. But...
>> They can fine us for doing wrong. So I'm sure the man was just doing
>> his job.
>>
>> When we lived in CA, the housing office did routine checks on our
>> bins. A violation could cause us to lose our housing. I well remember
>> the angry knock on the door at 7:00 a.m. one morning. The man was
>> yelling at me, telling me that if the item was not removed from the
>> alley in 30 minutes, we would lose our military housing. I had no clue
>> what he was talking about. Turned out that my husband set a broken
>> microwave by the trash can, thinking they would pick it up. Nope.
>> Things like that can't just be thrown out here either. They have to go
>> to special disposal stations and often there is a small fee for disposal.
>
> I have read of this kind of stuff happening in England, but not here
> yet. There have been reports of bin men refusing to empty a bin because
> there was something in it they objected to.
>
>
But you have RFID tags in your bins:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...throw-tax.html

Spy chips hidden in 2.5 MILLION dustbins: 60pc rise in electronic bugs
as council snoopers plan pay-as-you-throw tax

On Mon, 23 May 2016 00:14:27 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
snip
>
>And "normal" people here do not dispose of food in trash cans here. People
>who are not upstanding citizens do. Didn't you say that they don't even
>recycle where you live?

I'm having a hard time picturing this, Julie. Apparently Bothell is
very strict, so there is no eating of food out of doors like at the
Tasty Freeze or hot dogs. At least, no walking with food. How do you
know what the rules are as you pass from one township to another. I'm
assuming you do move between townships because you live in large urban
area. Are there color coded trash cans everywhere for aluminum,
organics, non-recycle paper?
Janet US

"Orographic" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/23/2016 5:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I gather that the rest of the world and even this country does not
>>> live like we do here. We are very green here. Recycling has been
>>> mandatory here for a very long time. The food thing is fairly new to
>>> some areas. A recent post on Facebook was from a woman saying that the
>>> maintenance man was checking their bins. She felt violated. But...
>>> They can fine us for doing wrong. So I'm sure the man was just doing
>>> his job.
>>>
>>> When we lived in CA, the housing office did routine checks on our
>>> bins. A violation could cause us to lose our housing. I well remember
>>> the angry knock on the door at 7:00 a.m. one morning. The man was
>>> yelling at me, telling me that if the item was not removed from the
>>> alley in 30 minutes, we would lose our military housing. I had no clue
>>> what he was talking about. Turned out that my husband set a broken
>>> microwave by the trash can, thinking they would pick it up. Nope.
>>> Things like that can't just be thrown out here either. They have to go
>>> to special disposal stations and often there is a small fee for
>>> disposal.
>>
>> I have read of this kind of stuff happening in England, but not here
>> yet. There have been reports of bin men refusing to empty a bin because
>> there was something in it they objected to.
>>
>>
> But you have RFID tags in your bins:
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...throw-tax.html
>
> Spy chips hidden in 2.5 MILLION dustbins: 60pc rise in electronic bugs as
> council snoopers plan pay-as-you-throw tax

Yes, I've seen that but it wouldn't do them much good with us anyway. I do
not like bins outside my house (which most houses have) so I keep them in
the garden and we take our own rubbish to the council tip every week.

I didn't read that carefully because I have seen something about that
before, but I think it is England, in the south. I haven't heard anything
about it here in Scotland.



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 5/23/2016 10:04 AM, jinx the minx wrote:
> Cheri > wrote:
>>
>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>> news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
>>
>>> For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
>>> comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
>>> something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
>>> the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
>> truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>
> That's the way it's done here too but imagine my surprise when I saw them
> doing it by hand at our Florida residence! We still have to bring it out
> to the curb but the waste haulers walk from driveway to driveway (for the
> most part) and sling it into the truck by hand. I think those guys should
> get significant bonus pay for that!
>
Where I used to live, everyone had the same type of trash/rubbish bin
*provided by the trash pickup company*. Those cans were rolled to the
curb and yes, it was picked up by the hydraulic arms and dumped in.

Where I live now, you buy your own garbage can. All different shapes
and sizes. Sure, we have to roll it to the curb. Someone from the
truck has to jump down, pick it up and dump it into the truck.

I'm allowed to dispose of things like apple cores if I've a mind to
without being forced to compost, use a special recycle bin, garbage
disposal, etc..

I'm still not sure what any of this has to do with buying produce (or
anything else) at Walmart.

Jill

On Mon, 23 May 2016 00:12:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 16:26:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> This has been one of silliest posts our resident squirrel
>>>> has posted in at least a week. But the responses are
>>>> priceless!!!!!
>>>
>>>Oh? Read it and weep.
>>>
>>>http://www.wm.com/enterprise/food-an...-recycling.jsp
>>>
>>>http://wmnorthwest.com/snohomishcoun...guidelines.pdf
>>>
>>>Read it, read it, read it, then shut your pie hole!
>>
>> None of which explains why you can't dispose of an apple core in a
>> public place, in a public trash can. Come on Julie, even you would
>> have to admit that your claim is absurd.
>
>Because it is a TRASH can and an apple core is not TRASH! Sure, I could do
>that. I could also run lights, stab people... I don't do those things
>either. Put food in someone else's trash and they could be fined. Just not
>cool.

Bothell reminds me of that movie -- Slyvester Stallone and Sandra
Bullock -- what's it? Ahh. Demolition Man. Wow. I don't think I
want to live there.
Janet US

On 2016-05-23 10:04 AM, jinx the minx wrote:

>
> That's the way it's done here too but imagine my surprise when I saw them
> doing it by hand at our Florida residence! We still have to bring it out
> to the curb but the waste haulers walk from driveway to driveway (for the
> most part) and sling it into the truck by hand. I think those guys should
> get significant bonus pay for that!

That is the way it is done here. There is usually a driver and an
assistant. The truck stops at each driveway and the helper dumps the
cans into the back and operates the loader/compactor.

We had a funny incident a few years ago. I had an electrician here to do
some work on stack. The garbage truck came by and I went out to bring in
the bins. I couldn't find them, but the electrician pointed to them.....
way over on the other side of the lane, well past my neighbour's can and
bins, and my recycling bin was broken. The electrician asked what I had
done to **** off the garbageman and was surprised I had no heard the guy
screaming..... "One ****ing driveway and two ****ing stops!!"

It seems he did not like having to make 2 stops 15 feet apart. I don't
know what I am supposed to do to satisfy a santitation engineer. We are
only allowed one can or one bag of household garbage and if we out more
than that we have to pay for a sticker. I live on an unopened road
allowance and share a lane with the neighbours who live further back on
the it. I have been here for almost 40 years and have always put our
garbage on the edge of the main road on our side of the lane.

I went to the town hall to complain about it and to get a new recycling
bin. I also called the contractor and told them about their guy's
bizarre behaviour. We have a new guy on the route.

On Mon, 23 May 2016 06:35:21 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
>
>> For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
>> comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
>> something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
>> the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
>truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
>
>Cheri
I'm sure the men who used to have to lift and haul those unwieldy
heavy bins around praised the day the truck with the arm showed up.
Those men didn't last long. Homeowners didn't give a damn about how
they loaded the bins as long as someone else carried it for them. This
new method saves a lot of medical bills for the men and the trash
company. I'm sure the trash company benefits on insurance payments as
well.
Janet US

On Mon, 23 May 2016 07:28:12 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 23 May 2016 09:04:06 -0500, jinx the minx
> wrote:
>
>> That's the way it's done here too but imagine my surprise when I saw them
>> doing it by hand at our Florida residence! We still have to bring it out
>> to the curb but the waste haulers walk from driveway to driveway (for the
>> most part) and sling it into the truck by hand. I think those guys should
>> get significant bonus pay for that!
>
>They probably make less, not more. Technology only improves when the
>cost of human labor goes up, until then - they're just another cog in
>the machine.

I've often thought those guys were unsung heroes. They were out in
blistering heat, freezing cold, rain and snow. All to haul our trash
to a truck. Their legs, backs and arms must have punished them
something awful. Yet everyone sneers at the trash man.
Janet US

On 5/23/2016 9:31 AM, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 07:28:12 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 09:04:06 -0500, jinx the minx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> That's the way it's done here too but imagine my surprise when I saw them
>>> doing it by hand at our Florida residence! We still have to bring it out
>>> to the curb but the waste haulers walk from driveway to driveway (for the
>>> most part) and sling it into the truck by hand. I think those guys should
>>> get significant bonus pay for that!
>>
>> They probably make less, not more. Technology only improves when the
>> cost of human labor goes up, until then - they're just another cog in
>> the machine.
>
> I've often thought those guys were unsung heroes. They were out in
> blistering heat, freezing cold, rain and snow. All to haul our trash
> to a truck. Their legs, backs and arms must have punished them
> something awful. Yet everyone sneers at the trash man.
> Janet US
>

Not here.

We TIP them at Xmas.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 5/22/2016 7:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have an extremely picky eater coming to stay here
> >>
> >> What do you consider a picky eater?
> >>
> >> -sw
> >>
> > Everyone in her household and then some?
>
> Nope. Husband isn't picky.

Only when his pre-sliced apples are the wrong brand?

On 2016-05-23 11:37 AM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/22/2016 7:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have an extremely picky eater coming to stay here
>>>>
>>>> What do you consider a picky eater?
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> Everyone in her household and then some?
>>
>> Nope. Husband isn't picky.
>
> Only when his pre-sliced apples are the wrong brand?
>

The husband used to stop on his way home and grab a restaurant meal.

On 5/23/2016 12:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>> Nope. Husband isn't picky.
>>
>> Only when his pre-sliced apples are the wrong brand?
>>
>
> The husband used to stop on his way home and grab a restaurant meal.
>
You just can't let her alone can ya bully man?

I'd sure like to kick your sorry fat ass in.

On 5/23/2016 11:37 AM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
>>> Everyone in her household and then some?
>> >
>> > Nope. Husband isn't picky.
> Only when his pre-sliced apples are the wrong brand?


This bothers YOU for what Goddamned reason, asshole?

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:31:28 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I'm just glad none of you live here. You wouldn't fare very well at all.
>
>
You poor dumbass. I do live in a city that has recycling.
The green can is for recyclables, thus the term "being
green." Plastic, cardboard, paper, tin cans, but no
Styrofoam. We do not recycle glass here.

The OTHER can is for trash which includes apple
cores (gasp), potato peelings, carrot scrapings, onion peels,
egg shells, and other such g-a-r-b-a-g-e. There are many
around here who put those kitchen scraps in a composting bin
but I assure you the recycling police will not arrest them
if they do deposit such items in the TRASH.

Why don't you give your local waste management department
their laugh for the year and call them and ask if you can
put an apple core in the trash? After they pick themselves
up off the floor they will tell of course you can.

On 5/23/2016 12:36 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:31:28 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I'm just glad none of you live here. You wouldn't fare very well at all.
>>
>>
> You poor dumbass.


You really are one mis**** of a useless ****!

DROP DAMNED DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On 2016-05-23 12:36 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:31:28 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> You poor dumbass. I do live in a city that has recycling.
> The green can is for recyclables, thus the term "being
> green." Plastic, cardboard, paper, tin cans, but no
> Styrofoam. We do not recycle glass here.
>
> The OTHER can is for trash which includes apple
> cores (gasp), potato peelings, carrot scrapings, onion peels,
> egg shells, and other such g-a-r-b-a-g-e. There are many
> around here who put those kitchen scraps in a composting bin
> but I assure you the recycling police will not arrest them
> if they do deposit such items in the TRASH.
>
> Why don't you give your local waste management department
> their laugh for the year and call them and ask if you can
> put an apple core in the trash? After they pick themselves
> up off the floor they will tell of course you can.



;-)

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
>
> > For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
> > comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
> > something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
> > the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
> truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
>
> Cheri
>
>
Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
these pick ups.

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 10:15:24 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>
> Bothell reminds me of that movie -- Slyvester Stallone and Sandra
> Bullock -- what's it? Ahh. Demolition Man. Wow. I don't think I
> want to live there.
> Janet US
>
>
It's only loony in LaBove's made up world.

On 5/23/2016 11:31 AM, Janet B wrote:

> I've often thought those guys were unsung heroes. They were out in
> blistering heat, freezing cold, rain and snow. All to haul our trash
> to a truck. Their legs, backs and arms must have punished them
> something awful. Yet everyone sneers at the trash man.

Not me! And I don't think I've ever heard anyone else sneer.
Maybe because in the city, those guys make great money. But
they are very hard workers and I do my best to make it easy for
them because I appreciate what they do. Not easy.

nancy

On 5/23/2016 12:53 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 10:15:24 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>>
>> Bothell reminds me of that movie -- Slyvester Stallone and Sandra
>> Bullock -- what's it? Ahh. Demolition Man. Wow. I don't think I
>> want to live there.
>> Janet US
>>
>>
> It's only loony in LaBove's made up world.
>

You really are one evil bullying BIOTCH!

On 5/23/2016 12:59 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> bad person?
>
> -sw
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On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 10:34:47 AM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>
> On 5/23/2016 9:31 AM, Janet B wrote:
> >
> > I've often thought those guys were unsung heroes. They were out in
> > blistering heat, freezing cold, rain and snow. All to haul our trash
> > to a truck. Their legs, backs and arms must have punished them
> > something awful. Yet everyone sneers at the trash man.
> > Janet US
> >
Up until about 15 years ago everybody had 20 and 30 gallon
trash cans, metal or plastic. The city started a recycling
program and delivered to every household one 96 gallon trash
bin and one 96 gallon recycling bin. I called and asked for
the 64 gallon size in each bin.
>
>
> We TIP them at Xmas.
>
>
Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
There was much squalling as some of those guys made several
thousand dollars by sticking out their hand. If they did
something extra such as mowing my yard, cleaning gutters,
shoveling snow, etc. I'd tip them. But I'm not tipping them
for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
extra duties.

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 11:37:59 AM UTC-5, JeBus wrote:

>
> DROP DAMNED DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
You first.

"Capulin" > wrote in message ...

>> Perth and Kinross eh? That's a surprise
>
> Please, illumine me as to the humor there?

Humour? Do you mean why was I surprised? I guess I would have expected
that if we did have that, it would be somewhere like Glasgow

>> Anyway, as I said, we don't get our bins emptied anyway
>
> Roger that!
>

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:31:28 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I'm just glad none of you live here. You wouldn't fare very well at all.
>>
>>
> You poor dumbass. I do live in a city that has recycling.
> The green can is for recyclables, thus the term "being
> green." Plastic, cardboard, paper, tin cans, but no
> Styrofoam. We do not recycle glass here.
>
> The OTHER can is for trash which includes apple
> cores (gasp), potato peelings, carrot scrapings, onion peels,
> egg shells, and other such g-a-r-b-a-g-e. There are many
> around here who put those kitchen scraps in a composting bin
> but I assure you the recycling police will not arrest them
> if they do deposit such items in the TRASH.
>
> Why don't you give your local waste management department
> their laugh for the year and call them and ask if you can
> put an apple core in the trash? After they pick themselves
> up off the floor they will tell of course you can.

I don't think there's anyone here being arrested for putting compostables
in the trash. There might be some kind of token $1 fine or something.

You go ahead and cling to the old throwaway attitude that comforts you,
where food scraps are something icky to be put out of sight. But out of
sight includes the cost not only of fuel to transport the waste but also
the pollution that fuel generates in both extraction and consumption.
And if you're lucky enough to have local incinerators you won't be
deprived of pollution. Out of sight indeed.

On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>> > We TIP them at Xmas.
>> >
>> >
> Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
> them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
> There was much squalling as some of those guys made several
> thousand dollars by sticking out their hand. If they did
> something extra such as mowing my yard, cleaning gutters,
> shoveling snow, etc. I'd tip them. But I'm not tipping them
> for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
> extra duties.
>

Nice.

You're a real piece of work there, "joann".

No one holds out there hands.

We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
big red note.

It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
year.

YMMV, and obviously does.

On 5/23/2016 1:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> This is probably in the top 10 of most ridiculous things you've ever
> claimed. And the top 10 is only about .02% of the stupid things
> you've claimed.
>
> And you still keep going...
>
> -sw
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
> "OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
> Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
> entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
> baby carrots".
>
> -sw
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
> heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."
>
> -sw
>
>
> "Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."
>
> -sw
>
> I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
> that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
> off-topic subjects.
>
> -sw
>
> Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.
>
> -sw
>
> I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.
>
> -sw
>
> You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
> written down the once you realized you liked it.
>
> -sw
>
> Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
> spite.
>
> -sw
>
> Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.
>
> [High Five]
>
> -sw
>
> Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.
>
> -sw
>
> You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.
>
> -sw
>
> You tell him Julie!
>
> <snort>
>
> -sw
>
> That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
> couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
> how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
> explain why the proposed solution won't work.
>
> Same 'ol song and dance.
>
> -sw
>
> <snip rest unread>
>
> -sw
>
> So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
> years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
> have been your direct experience with the New York public school
> system in the early 2000's?
>
> -sw
>
> What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
> amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
> world.
>
> -sw
>
>
> Again, only in YOUR house.
>
> -sw

On Mon, 23 May 2016 17:22:00 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

wrote:
>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:31:28 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just glad none of you live here. You wouldn't fare very well at all.
>>>
>>>
>> You poor dumbass. I do live in a city that has recycling.
>> The green can is for recyclables, thus the term "being
>> green." Plastic, cardboard, paper, tin cans, but no
>> Styrofoam. We do not recycle glass here.
>>
>> The OTHER can is for trash which includes apple
>> cores (gasp), potato peelings, carrot scrapings, onion peels,
>> egg shells, and other such g-a-r-b-a-g-e. There are many
>> around here who put those kitchen scraps in a composting bin
>> but I assure you the recycling police will not arrest them
>> if they do deposit such items in the TRASH.
>>
>> Why don't you give your local waste management department
>> their laugh for the year and call them and ask if you can
>> put an apple core in the trash? After they pick themselves
>> up off the floor they will tell of course you can.
>
>I don't think there's anyone here being arrested for putting compostables
>in the trash. There might be some kind of token $1 fine or something.
>
>You go ahead and cling to the old throwaway attitude that comforts you,
>where food scraps are something icky to be put out of sight. But out of
>sight includes the cost not only of fuel to transport the waste but also
>the pollution that fuel generates in both extraction and consumption.
>And if you're lucky enough to have local incinerators you won't be
>deprived of pollution. Out of sight indeed.

so it's true? A tourist in Seattle, walking down the street, throws an
inappropriate item into the container associated with a business and
the business gets fined? I'm not doubting what you say but it seems
that would be tough on tourism, tourists and businesses. I'm
surprised there wasn't a big hoo-rah down at city hall.
Janet US

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>> news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
>>
>> > For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
>> > comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
>> > something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
>> > the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
>> truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
> cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
> these pick ups.

Ours are different trucks, but coming on the same day, with alternating
weeks for recycle and lawn/leaf waste, but garbage every week.

Cheri

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:41:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> >
> > "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> > news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
> >
> > > For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
> > > comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
> > > something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
> > > the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
> > truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
> >
> > Cheri
> >
> >
> Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
> cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
> these pick ups.

I was unclear. Two different trucks, but they both come 'round
on the same day. I don't know whether it's deliberate, but
the recycling truck comes early in the morning, and the
apple-core truck comes early in the afternoon.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:59:49 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:41:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> > >
> > > "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> > > news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
> > >
> > > > For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
> > > > comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
> > > > something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
> > > > the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
> > > truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
> > >
> > > Cheri
> > >
> > >
> > Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
> > cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
> > these pick ups.
>
> I was unclear. Two different trucks, but they both come 'round
> on the same day. I don't know whether it's deliberate, but
> the recycling truck comes early in the morning, and the
> apple-core truck comes early in the afternoon.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

In Julie's world apples don't have cores...they come sliced and packaged. I wonder what she does with the packaging materials...as they are garbage too.
====

On 2016-05-23 12:41 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>> news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
>>
>>> For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
>>> comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
>>> something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
>>> the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
>> truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
> cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
> these pick ups.


We are much more advanced here. We have compost collection seven days a
week. Mondays is for watermelon rinds and corn husks. Tuesdays is for
apple and pear cores. Wednesday is for potato peels and onion skins.
Thurdays is for all other greens, including beet and carrot tops. ......

On 2016-05-23 1:05 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 10:34:47 AM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/23/2016 9:31 AM, Janet B wrote:
>>>
>>> I've often thought those guys were unsung heroes. They were out in
>>> blistering heat, freezing cold, rain and snow. All to haul our trash
>>> to a truck. Their legs, backs and arms must have punished them
>>> something awful. Yet everyone sneers at the trash man.
>>> Janet US
>>>
> Up until about 15 years ago everybody had 20 and 30 gallon
> trash cans, metal or plastic. The city started a recycling
> program and delivered to every household one 96 gallon trash
> bin and one 96 gallon recycling bin. I called and asked for
> the 64 gallon size in each bin.
>>
>>
>> We TIP them at Xmas.
>>
>>
> Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
> them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
> There was much squalling as some of those guys made several
> thousand dollars by sticking out their hand. If they did
> something extra such as mowing my yard, cleaning gutters,
> shoveling snow, etc. I'd tip them. But I'm not tipping them
> for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
> extra duties.
>


Why not? They provide a service? There seems to be no end to the jobs
that some people feel are jobs that require tipping, and those who think
that because the cost of living has gone up, we should pay waiters a
minimum 20%. Even places that have counter service often have tip jars
where I suppose you are supposed to tip for the service you didn't get.

Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 17:22:00 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:
>
wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:31:28 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm just glad none of you live here. You wouldn't fare very well at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You poor dumbass. I do live in a city that has recycling.
>>> The green can is for recyclables, thus the term "being
>>> green." Plastic, cardboard, paper, tin cans, but no
>>> Styrofoam. We do not recycle glass here.
>>>
>>> The OTHER can is for trash which includes apple
>>> cores (gasp), potato peelings, carrot scrapings, onion peels,
>>> egg shells, and other such g-a-r-b-a-g-e. There are many
>>> around here who put those kitchen scraps in a composting bin
>>> but I assure you the recycling police will not arrest them
>>> if they do deposit such items in the TRASH.
>>>
>>> Why don't you give your local waste management department
>>> their laugh for the year and call them and ask if you can
>>> put an apple core in the trash? After they pick themselves
>>> up off the floor they will tell of course you can.
>>
>>I don't think there's anyone here being arrested for putting compostables
>>in the trash. There might be some kind of token $1 fine or something.
>>
>>You go ahead and cling to the old throwaway attitude that comforts you,
>>where food scraps are something icky to be put out of sight. But out of
>>sight includes the cost not only of fuel to transport the waste but also
>>the pollution that fuel generates in both extraction and consumption.
>>And if you're lucky enough to have local incinerators you won't be
>>deprived of pollution. Out of sight indeed.
>
> so it's true? A tourist in Seattle, walking down the street, throws an
> inappropriate item into the container associated with a business and
> the business gets fined? I'm not doubting what you say but it seems
> that would be tough on tourism, tourists and businesses. I'm
> surprised there wasn't a big hoo-rah down at city hall.
> Janet US

"What do the requirements mean for commercial businesses?

"The ordinances specify that a fee may be applied to a solid waste
account when more than 10% of the garbage container (by volume)
contains prohibited materials, food waste, food-soiled paper, and/or
recyclables. All commercial establishments that generate food waste
or compostable paper are required to subscribe to food and yard waste
service, compost their food waste on site, or self-haul their food waste
to a transfer station for processing."


<http://www.seattle.gov/util/MyServices/Garbage/AboutGarbage/SolidWastePlans/AboutSolidWaste/BanOrdinance/FoodBanFAQs/index.htm>

On 2016-05-23 2:59 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:41:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>>> news:1766e383-5a8f-43fd-a7dc-
>>>
>>>> For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
>>>> comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
>>>> something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
>>>> the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Same here where I am, the truck with the arm picks it up, dumps it in the
>>> truck, and sets it back on the ground when empty.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>> Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
>> cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
>> these pick ups.
>
> I was unclear. Two different trucks, but they both come 'round
> on the same day. I don't know whether it's deliberate, but
> the recycling truck comes early in the morning, and the
> apple-core truck comes early in the afternoon.
>

Ours is a little easier to track. The truck that picks up apple cores
now picks up pear cores on the same day.

On 5/23/2016 1:13 PM, Roy wrote:

> In Julie's world apples don't have cores...they come sliced and packaged. I wonder what she does with the packaging materials...as they are garbage too.
> ====
>
Pipe down roy boy before I have to clobber ya!

On 5/23/2016 1:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> We are much more advanced here.

ROTFLMFAO!!!

In Canuckistan?

You people are a ****ing JOKE!

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 1:51:52 PM UTC-6, JeBus wrote:
> On 5/23/2016 1:13 PM, Roy wrote:
>
> > In Julie's world apples don't have cores...they come sliced and packaged. I wonder what she does with the packaging materials...as they are garbage too.
> > ====
> >
> Pipe down roy boy before I have to clobber ya!

PARASITE
====

On 5/23/2016 1:58 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 1:51:52 PM UTC-6, JeBus wrote:
>> On 5/23/2016 1:13 PM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>> In Julie's world apples don't have cores...they come sliced and packaged. I wonder what she does with the packaging materials...as they are garbage too.
>>> ====
>>>
>> Pipe down roy boy before I have to clobber ya!
>
> PARASITE
> ====
>
Old fart!

On Mon, 23 May 2016 09:31:13 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Mon, 23 May 2016 07:28:12 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 23 May 2016 09:04:06 -0500, jinx the minx
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That's the way it's done here too but imagine my surprise when I saw them
> >> doing it by hand at our Florida residence! We still have to bring it out
> >> to the curb but the waste haulers walk from driveway to driveway (for the
> >> most part) and sling it into the truck by hand. I think those guys should
> >> get significant bonus pay for that!
> >
> >They probably make less, not more. Technology only improves when the
> >cost of human labor goes up, until then - they're just another cog in
> >the machine.
>
> I've often thought those guys were unsung heroes. They were out in
> blistering heat, freezing cold, rain and snow. All to haul our trash
> to a truck. Their legs, backs and arms must have punished them
> something awful. Yet everyone sneers at the trash man.
> Janet US

Those who sneer must not be very bright. I guess a lot of people
don't appreciate them until there's a garbage strike.

--

sf