On 5/24/2016 1:52 AM, Je�us wrote:
>> It would be better to watch for criminals and catch
>> >them.
> ROTFL, I love it

Suckup...suckup...suckup...

On 5/23/2016 6:22 PM, Je�us wrote:
> I find the texture so very wrong with these newfangled big round
> varieties.

I find YOU to be so very wrong, in every way, auztard.

On 5/23/2016 6:05 PM, Je�us wrote:
> Possibly? Come to think of it, I also prefer watermelons with seeds...
Suckup...suckup...suckup...

You lonely old rabbit-killer!

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>
> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>
> > Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
> > them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
> > I'm not tipping them
> > for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
> > extra duties.
> >
>
> Nice.
>
> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>
> No one holds out there hands.
>
I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
some cash in it.
>
> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
> big red note.
>
> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
> year.
>
> YMMV, and obviously does.
>
>
They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
week here.

Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
>
> > Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
> > cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
> > these pick ups.
>
> Ours are different trucks, but coming on the same day, with alternating
> weeks for recycle and lawn/leaf waste, but garbage every week.
>
> Cheri
>
>
Garbage once a week here and recyclables are picked up once
a month.

On 5/24/2016 10:46 AM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>>> them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>>> I'm not tipping them
>>> for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>>> extra duties.
>>>
>>
>> Nice.
>>
>> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>
>> No one holds out there hands.
>>
> I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
> Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
> some cash in it.

I used to get a "Christmas card" from the woman who delivers the mail...
sometimes. I guess she expected to get some sort of holiday bonus.
Sorry, lady, but I'm not tipping you. You've got a governemtn job. And
half the time I have to walk the misdelivered mail down the street.

(snippage)
>>
>>
> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage

Too true!

Jill

On 5/24/2016 1:55 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:01:13 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 10:37:00 -0500, Mark Storkamp
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> > On 5/22/2016 7:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>> >> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> I have an extremely picky eater coming to stay here
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> What do you consider a picky eater?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> -sw
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> > Everyone in her household and then some?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. Husband isn't picky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only when his pre-sliced apples are the wrong brand?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Husband must be picky about where he sleeps at night, because he seems
>>>>> to avoid sleeping in Bothell as much as possible. I wonder why?
>>>>
>>>> Aww come on now. Please don't.
>>>
>>> <shrug> please don't engage in a friendly manner with the casa boner
>>> forger who has been forging me and other for ages now? Let's just call
>>> it even and leave it at that?
>>
>> So you will use Julie as a live target if I don't do as I am told??
>
> Well, I can assure you that I will NOT be a willing participant in that!

Then explain WHY of WHY do you keep talking to your chief abuser - Sqwertz!

You keep him alive and off on you by replying continually.

On 5/24/2016 1:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:01:13 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 10:37:00 -0500, Mark Storkamp
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> > On 5/22/2016 7:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:31:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> I have an extremely picky eater coming to stay here
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> What do you consider a picky eater?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> -sw
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> > Everyone in her household and then some?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Husband isn't picky.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only when his pre-sliced apples are the wrong brand?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Husband must be picky about where he sleeps at night, because he seems
>>>> to avoid sleeping in Bothell as much as possible. I wonder why?
>>>
>>> Aww come on now. Please don't.
>>
>> <shrug> please don't engage in a friendly manner with the casa boner
>> forger who has been forging me and other for ages now? Let's just call
>> it even and leave it at that?
>
> So you will use Julie as a live target if I don't do as I am told??
>
>
>
Of course, he posted all sf's private data - likely you are next.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>>
>> > Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>> > them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>> > I'm not tipping them
>> > for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>> > extra duties.
>> >
>>
>> Nice.
>>
>> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>
>> No one holds out there hands.
>>
>I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
>Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
>some cash in it.
>>
>> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
>> big red note.
>>
>> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
>> year.
>>
>> YMMV, and obviously does.
>>
>>
>They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
>want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
>week here.
>
>Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.

It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
employer is required by federal law to report their wages. 'Only'
working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
No one said you have to tip.
Janet US

On 2016-05-24 11:04 AM, Janet B wrote:

>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
>> want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>> done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
>> week here.
>>
>> Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>> can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>
> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
> employer is required by federal law to report their wages. 'Only'
> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
> not making full wages to support a family.

I don't know if working 4 days a week means they are making less than a
full wage. They may be on a compressed work week. I worked a compressed
work week of four 10 hour shifts and got the full week's pay. My son
works mostly 12 hour shifts. If he works 5 days a week he is into
serious overtime.


I don't know, what are
> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
> No one said you have to tip.
> Janet US
>

Capulin wrote:
>
> Of course, he posted all sf's private data - likely you are next.

No, those in the know realize that YOU did that with your
multi-personalities here.
"Many Lives, Many Masters." (It's a book I read long ago... look it
up)

You've got cshenk confused and you've got sf completely snowed. You've
done good with that. She thinks your other personalities are other
people "frogging" you. LOL!

I do write occasionally to your nicer personalities because I figure
you're probably not going to go away so I might as well just accept
you here. Completely ignoring you isn't going to work so we might as
well just accept you until death do us part. Hopefully, you first!
lol

Janet B wrote:
>
> " wrote:

> >Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
> >can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.

Get real. No one working for tips makes an extra $10,000 per year with
the exception of maybe waiters and waitress' in a high priced
restaurant.

A trash man even getting tips from many won't come close to that.


>
> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
> employer is required by federal law to report their wages.

Have you ever heard of the "underground economy?" Some predictions
even say up to 50% of income is not reported. Regardless of the
percentage, it's a big thing that's happened forever. So many people
don't report income. If you get paid in cash, and you don't deposit
it, there is no paper trail. Also don't go out spending more money
than you claim.




>'Only'
> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
> not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.

So clueless. Look up job opportunities in your city or town. See what
trashmen make. In my city, they make up to $45K per year, plus tons of
benefits and full retirement. In bigger cities, the wage scale is MUCH
higher. Don't be fooled by the 4-day work week. They get their full
time with all the benifits. 4 day weeks are usually 10 hour days.
Trashmen don't work part time.

Hell, I kinda wish I had become one years ago. I don't mind hard
work...it keeps you healthy.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:04:33 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

> No one said you have to tip.

Yet they complain as if it was written into law.

--

sf

On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:13:33 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/23/2016 9:05 PM, Janet B wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:41:08 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/23/2016 7:23 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maybe that's just where you live. Electronics (e-waste) disposal is
> >>> free here, but they do ask you to limit monthly disposal of e-waste
> >>> to no more than 30 electronic items.
> >>> http://recologysf.com/index.php/for-...ectronic-waste
> >>>
> >> Where I live there are disposal sites available for electronics, tv's,
> >> old computers, batteries, etc. You are supposed to drive them to the
> >> site. Too bad the site is 50 miles away. Mine are in the garage. Heh.
> >>
> >> Limit e-waste to no more than 30 electronic items? Damn, that's a lot
> >> of electronic items!!
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Here there are special disposal semi-trailer trucks that are in
> > specific spots each week. These trucks are manned by people who put
> > electronics, batteries, paint, hazardous waste in special bins. At
> > the end of the day the trailer goes to the landfill to be sorted out.
> > It's a shame that your community couldn't have access to such a thing
> > close by.
> > Janet US
> >
> Oh, there's a "dump" (recycle center) not 10 miles away. I was merely
> commenting on the "no more than 30 electronic items" at a time, which is
> what sf mentioned. I cannot imaging having that many electronic items
> to dispose of in a year, much less in a month.
>


--

sf

On 5/24/2016 10:16 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/24/2016 9:36 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Unlike some areas, they're not walking down the street with a heavy mail
>> bag slung over their shoulder. They're driving around in
>> air-conditioned cars. They still can't get it right. No tips, no
>> Christmas presents, sorry!
>
> That's why I tip my mail carrier. Come the day when they drive around
> in a truck and put the mail into a box, I won't.
>
Yep, different areas, different delivery methods. The mail carriers
around here drive cars. They deposit mail in a box by the side of the
road and drive off. They don't seem to pay much attention to names and
addresses.

> A couple of times the garbage guys put a card in the mailbox but I
> never did tip them. Maybe I should have. Just seems like they're
> different guys all the time. I do appreciate what they do.
>
> nancy
>
I appreciate what they do, too, when they get it right. Twice this past
week I opened my mailbox and found mail that wasn't mine. Makes me
wonder what mail I might not be receiving. BTDT.

Jill

On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>>
>> > Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>> > them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>> > I'm not tipping them
>> > for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>> > extra duties.
>> >
>>
>> Nice.
>>
>> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>
>> No one holds out there hands.
>>
>I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
>Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
>some cash in it.
>>
>> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
>> big red note.
>>
>> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
>> year.
>>
>> YMMV, and obviously does.
>>
>>
>They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
>want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
>week here.
>
>Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.

It never occured to me to tip the trash collecter... here all he does
is drive the truck... the truck's hydraulic Snatch & Lift (panty & bra
set) mechanism picks up the bins, dumps them into the truck, and
places the bins back... it's a one man operation, I'm the one who has
to schlep the bins to the road and back again. The driver just sits
and drives. I'm sure the pay is very good, it's a huge company and in
case you don't know private sanitation is operated by the mob. I
consider the $28/mo a bargain (they supply the bins), would cost more
to haul my trash to the town dump.
http://www.county-waste.com/

On 5/23/2016 10:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Animas" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/23/2016 3:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/23/2016 3:13 PM, Roy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In Julie's world apples don't have cores...they come sliced and
>>>> packaged. I wonder what she does with the packaging materials...as
>>>> they are garbage too.
>>>> ====
>>>>
>>> Excellent question. She did say it came they came in a clam pack, which
>>> screams PLASTIC. How does one dispose of that in Bothell?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> RECYCLE it, duh!
>
> Jill is an idiot.

No, I'm not. I do know how to dispose of an apple core no matter where
I might encounter one.

Jill

On 2016-05-24 12:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> I appreciate what they do, too, when they get it right. Twice this past
> week I opened my mailbox and found mail that wasn't mine. Makes me
> wonder what mail I might not be receiving. BTDT.

For a while out mail delivery was contracted out and it was mail box
roulette for one of the people on the route. I can't blame it entirely
on her reading ability or lack thereof. There was an M. Smith about a
mile down the road and the mailing address is a different town. A lot
of her mail ended up her and a lot of my wife's mail went to her place.
I once got an unemployment insurance cheque for a Dave Smith who lives
four streets over and about two miles down, and one day I got some three
large and very fancy brochures in my mail box. One was addressed to me,
one to my next door neighbour and one to the next one down from them. I
guess she figured that putting all three in my box would save her two stops.

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>Capulin wrote:
>>>tsjoannotjoannwrote:
>>>
>>>> Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>>>> them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>>>> I'm not tipping them
>>>> for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>>>> extra duties.
>>>
>>> Nice. You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>> No one holds out [their] there hands.
>>>
>> I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
>> Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
>> some cash in it.
>
>I used to get a "Christmas card" from the woman who delivers the mail...
>sometimes. I guess she expected to get some sort of holiday bonus.
>Sorry, lady, but I'm not tipping you. You've got a governemtn job. And
>half the time I have to walk the misdelivered mail down the street.
>
> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage.

All the trash guy does is drive a truck house to house at tractor
speed... playground monitor is much more difficult... brats are a lot
more nerve wracking than trash cans, and a lotta brats stink worse
than garbage No one pays attention to trash can abuse, run over one
and no one cares, run over some brat and the world stops.. . . I'd
much rather drive a trash truck than a school bus.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:48:18 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> > Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
>> > cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
>> > these pick ups.
>>
>> Ours are different trucks, but coming on the same day, with alternating
>> weeks for recycle and lawn/leaf waste, but garbage every week.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>Garbage once a week here and recyclables are picked up once
>a month.

Both once a week here... and good thing too or I'd need three bins for
cat food cans, all their cartons, and cat litter packaging. The vast
majority of my trash is generated by cats.

On 5/24/2016 10:09 AM, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 7:44:00 AM UTC-6, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
>>> On 5/23/2016 4:44 PM, Mr. Smartypants DoW #4, Supreme ****head wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 4:11:58 PM UTC-6, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/21/2016 5:31 PM, Julie BoveINE wrote:
>>>>>>> I am having extreme trouble getting good produce anywhere around here.
>>>>>>> Granted, I did not try PCC or Whole Foods. But at the other stores, it
>>>>>>> is either slim pickin's or I buy a small amount of things that appear to
>>>>>>> be fresh, only to find them spoiled, a day or two later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although I mainly needed produce today, I have an extremely picky eater
>>>>>>> coming to stay here so I thought I would try the Walmart food store for
>>>>>>> a couple of things that I know she eats. They did have one thing. Out
>>>>>>> of the other but there is still a SEM so it appears that they do still
>>>>>>> carry it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The farm down the way has a special on silage, Julie.
>>>>>> PIG OUT!
>>>>>
>>>>> This bitch is totally obsessed with food. When she's not eating it,
>>>>> she's buying it. When she's not buying it, she's talking about buying
>>>>> it. I'll bet she's an easy 600-pounder.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> she also was able to keep the Kernel from retiring for his 18 1/2 hour nap. Note the time he posted at.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wot dif the time, sweetheart?
>>> Eh?
>>
>> If you don't take your nap by 2 p.m., you wake up grouchy. Just thinkin' of your wellbeing, puddin'face.
>
> I don't think that's puddin... maybe "peter puddin". LOL, etc... (tm)
>

Listen up, you two bitches. Pleasance and I have a life off usenet.
Any questions???

On 5/23/2016 6:08 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-05-23 6:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/23/2016 6:16 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
>> I have no idea why she'd need tomatoes "on the vine" in order to make
>> Bacon/Lettuce/Tomato sandwiches. Suffice to say, she learned Walmart is
>> not the best place to buy fruit or vegetables. Most of us already knew
>> that. One of these days she'll discover farm/vegetable stands and be
>> able to buy produce *in season*.
>
> You must have been sleeping through some of her posts. She reported that
> there are no produce stands in her little world.

Yep, bove did post there were no produce stands where bove lives. At
some point in time, didn't bove also claim there were no "farmers'
markets" (aka 'stands'!!) in the 'universe of bothell'? It's too
difficult to keep track of what bove implies with her statements and
retractions.

There are at least two "farmers' markets" available in the Bothell area:

1) Bothell Farmers Market
http://www.countryvillagebothell.com...farmers-market

Opens this Friday on June 3rd. Surprise, surprise -- this farmers
market provides "fresh produce" from local farms! From its website
listed above: "Our market offers a large variety of in-season, locally
grown produce, straight from the farm! Pick up fresh cut flower
bouquets, locally grown berries, homemade baked goods, fresh bread,
eggs, organic fruits & veggies, infused oil & vinegar, honey, coffee, &
jams! We sell handmade items from local artisans including jewelry,
candles, & more."

2) Lake Forest Farmers Market
http://thirdplacecommons.org/farmers-market/

From its website: "It is a fresh market with locally grown food,
flowers, and plants . . . . "

So, farmers markets (stands) do exist in the 'universe of bothell.' But
wait for it, bove will no doubt have various, irrational reasons why
such offerings won't and can't work if bove tried to shop there.

Sky

================================
Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer!
Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice!
================================

On 2016-05-24 2:46 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:48:18 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
>>>> cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
>>>> these pick ups.
>>>
>>> Ours are different trucks, but coming on the same day, with alternating
>>> weeks for recycle and lawn/leaf waste, but garbage every week.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>> Garbage once a week here and recyclables are picked up once
>> a month.
>
> Both once a week here... and good thing too or I'd need three bins for
> cat food cans, all their cartons, and cat litter packaging. The vast
> majority of my trash is generated by cats.
>


Hey... the garbage truck just came by and I saw that we now have a
garbage woman slinging those bins At first I thought it was a guy with
one of those ridiculous man buns but then I realized it was a woman with
the hair buzzed on the side and pulled up and back for a small bun.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:45:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Janet B wrote:
>>
>> " wrote:
>
>> >Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>> >can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>
>Get real. No one working for tips makes an extra $10,000 per year with
>the exception of maybe waiters and waitress' in a high priced
>restaurant.
>
>A trash man even getting tips from many won't come close to that.
>
>
>>
>> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
>> employer is required by federal law to report their wages.
>
>Have you ever heard of the "underground economy?" Some predictions
>even say up to 50% of income is not reported. Regardless of the
>percentage, it's a big thing that's happened forever. So many people
>don't report income. If you get paid in cash, and you don't deposit
>it, there is no paper trail. Also don't go out spending more money
>than you claim.
>
>
>
>
>>'Only'
>> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
>> not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
>> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
>> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
>> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
>> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
>
>So clueless. Look up job opportunities in your city or town. See what
>trashmen make. In my city, they make up to $45K per year, plus tons of
>benefits and full retirement. In bigger cities, the wage scale is MUCH
>higher. Don't be fooled by the 4-day work week. They get their full
>time with all the benifits. 4 day weeks are usually 10 hour days.
>Trashmen don't work part time.
>
>Hell, I kinda wish I had become one years ago. I don't mind hard
>work...it keeps you healthy.

All I could find was management for $52,000
Janet US

On Tue, 24 May 2016 06:12:33 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 05:08:49 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >For both recycling and regular trash, a truck with a hydraulic arm
>> >comes along, picks up the bin and dumps it in the truck. Unless
>> >something goes wrong, the driver of the truck has no idea what was in
>> >the bin. I probably could dispose of a dead body.
>>
>> I think these days many (most?) trucks have cameras for the operators
>> to view what is being disposed.
>
>Dang. I'll have to go back to one of my other plans. Garbage disposal,
>burial in the back yard, burning in the brush pile, deep freeze, etc.
>
>Although if I put a dismembered body in a black trash bag, it probably
>wouldn't excite any notice.

Please forgive me if I decline any dinner invitations from you :P

>My husband bagged a dead possum off
>the road in front of our house and it went out in the regular trash
>last week.

Yep, quite safe in a bag. No one would notice. I can say that the
garbage trucks in Tassie have cameras, if we have them then it's
likely many other places do. I've no idea how strictly the truck
operators adhere to the rules though.

On Mon, 23 May 2016 18:30:51 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/23/2016 6:16 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 17:57:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/23/2016 3:13 PM, Roy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In Julie's world apples don't have cores...they come sliced and packaged. I wonder what she does with the packaging materials...as they are garbage too.
>>>> ====
>>>>
>>> Excellent question. She did say it came they came in a clam pack, which
>>> screams PLASTIC. How does one dispose of that in Bothell?
>>
>> Yes. That is SO much more environmentally friend than... wait for
>> it... a normal *unsliced* apple <G>.
>>
>Heaven knows what they are required to do with things like pumpkin or
>winter squash or <gasp> melon rinds.
>
>I have no idea why she'd need tomatoes "on the vine" in order to make
>Bacon/Lettuce/Tomato sandwiches. Suffice to say, she learned Walmart is
>not the best place to buy fruit or vegetables. Most of us already knew
>that. One of these days she'll discover farm/vegetable stands and be
>able to buy produce *in season*.

Wasn't there some issue with the farm stands in her area?
I seem to recall there were none, or they didn't sell vegetables of
something like that?

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/24/2016 2:12 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> The cameras are not there specifically to watch for those things. They
>> are traffic cams. But if they do get a pic of you tossing something out
>> the window, you will get a ticket! There are signs all over warning of
>> littering and what the fine is. $500.
>
> There are laws against littering in every state. No one was talking about
> throwing food or anything else out of car windows to be caught on
> traffic-cams. He meant he throws things like apple cores, etc. outside in
> the YARD for the wild critters to eat.
>
> Jill

Please keep up Jill. Someone did say that they throw stuff out of their car
window.

On 5/24/2016 12:28 PM, Mr. Smartypants DoW #4, Supreme ****head wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 1:03:02 PM UTC-6, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
>> On 5/24/2016 10:09 AM, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 7:44:00 AM UTC-6, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
>>>>> On 5/23/2016 4:44 PM, Mr. Smartypants DoW #4, Supreme ****head wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 4:11:58 PM UTC-6, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/21/2016 5:31 PM, Julie BoveINE wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I am having extreme trouble getting good produce anywhere around here.
>>>>>>>>> Granted, I did not try PCC or Whole Foods. But at the other stores, it
>>>>>>>>> is either slim pickin's or I buy a small amount of things that appear to
>>>>>>>>> be fresh, only to find them spoiled, a day or two later.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Although I mainly needed produce today, I have an extremely picky eater
>>>>>>>>> coming to stay here so I thought I would try the Walmart food store for
>>>>>>>>> a couple of things that I know she eats. They did have one thing. Out
>>>>>>>>> of the other but there is still a SEM so it appears that they do still
>>>>>>>>> carry it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The farm down the way has a special on silage, Julie.
>>>>>>>> PIG OUT!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This bitch is totally obsessed with food. When she's not eating it,
>>>>>>> she's buying it. When she's not buying it, she's talking about buying
>>>>>>> it. I'll bet she's an easy 600-pounder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> she also was able to keep the Kernel from retiring for his 18 1/2 hour nap. Note the time he posted at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wot dif the time, sweetheart?
>>>>> Eh?
>>>>
>>>> If you don't take your nap by 2 p.m., you wake up grouchy. Just thinkin' of your wellbeing, puddin'face.
>>>
>>> I don't think that's puddin... maybe "peter puddin". LOL, etc... (tm)
>>>
>>
>> Listen up, you two bitches. Pleasance and I have a life off usenet.
>> Any questions???
>
> Yeh, rootin' around in the cucumber patch till it's nap time.
>

BITCH!
LOL

On 5/24/2016 9:54 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> and it's only a
> matter of time before he starts forging you, too.
>
> -sw
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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 23:25:28 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:16:15 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He is here now. He was off on business, teaching and taking classes
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> states. sf might have run into him as he was there for a few days.
>>>>>
>>>>> <snork> <boggle>
>>>>
>>>> Who knows! He was there and just got back from there.
>>>
>>> You do know that there's well over 1.3 million people in San Francisco
>>> on any given day, right? Does your husband at least have a tattoo on
>>> his forehead that reads "Julie Bove's Husband"?
>>>
>> I do know. I also know that I was joking. And no offense to those with
>> tattoos but he doesn't like them so has none.
>>
>>>> He was other places
>>>> too. I won't tell you where. Why? I am imagining all the panties in a
>>>> bunch
>>>> for my withholding information. I know you all think that I announce
>>>> everything here. I don't. Boo hoo.
>>>
>>> Trying to create more unnecessary drama <yawn>. Nobody here could
>>> give a shit where your husband was until you incorporate it into some
>>> ridiculous - only then does it become pertinent.
>>
>> Nope. Not trying that at all.
>
> Sure looks like "somebody" gives a shit about EVERYTHING Julie as
> evidenced by all the responses to ANYTHING you post. You keep this
> newsgroup going on most days Julie.
>
> Cheri

It would seem that way. I have to leave soon to get some sort of lighting
fluid for the fire pit. Due to unfortunate and unexpected circumstances, we
had a teen guest come to stay late last night. I am assuming that the girls
might want to use it before the rain begins. I will try to take a pic. Guy
is going now to procure materials to replace the rotted steps.

Deck is very nearly done. He was touching up the paint but the store had run
out of the post caps and he needs to put two more on. I will probably wait
until those are on for the pic. By then, I should have the furniture on it
as well.

And the best thing is that the job didn't cost quite as much as the original
quote!

On 5/24/2016 2:50 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 18:30:51 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2016 6:16 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 17:57:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/23/2016 3:13 PM, Roy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In Julie's world apples don't have cores...they come sliced and packaged. I wonder what she does with the packaging materials...as they are garbage too.
>>>>> ====
>>>>>
>>>> Excellent question. She did say it came they came in a clam pack, which
>>>> screams PLASTIC. How does one dispose of that in Bothell?
>>>
>>> Yes. That is SO much more environmentally friend than... wait for
>>> it... a normal *unsliced* apple <G>.
>>>
>> Heaven knows what they are required to do with things like pumpkin or
>> winter squash or <gasp> melon rinds.
>>
>> I have no idea why she'd need tomatoes "on the vine" in order to make
>> Bacon/Lettuce/Tomato sandwiches. Suffice to say, she learned Walmart is
>> not the best place to buy fruit or vegetables. Most of us already knew
>> that. One of these days she'll discover farm/vegetable stands and be
>> able to buy produce *in season*.
>
> Wasn't there some issue with the farm stands in her area?
> I seem to recall there were none, or they didn't sell vegetables of
> something like that?

Yep, I recall bove denied there were any 'stands' available in the
'universe of bothell.' I mentioned that in another post in this thread
within the past hour or so and listed two different "farmers markets"
(aka 'stands') available on Fridays and Sundays, respectively.

Sky

================================
Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer!
Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice!
================================

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> > Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>>> > them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>>> > I'm not tipping them
>>> > for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>>> > extra duties.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Nice.
>>>
>>> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>>
>>> No one holds out there hands.
>>>
>>I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
>>Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
>>some cash in it.
>>>
>>> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
>>> big red note.
>>>
>>> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
>>> year.
>>>
>>> YMMV, and obviously does.
>>>
>>>
>>They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>>emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>>monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
>>want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>>done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
>>week here.
>>
>>Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>>can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>
> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
> employer is required by federal law to report their wages. 'Only'
> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
> not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
> No one said you have to tip.
> Janet US

Pretty sure she was claiming that the tips were not reported. If they were
given cash, it would be easy enough to not report. I only ever had one job
where I was given tips. That was at the golf course. After the bar closed,
we sold canned and bottled beverages in the pro shop and I would get
occasional tips, even though the drinks were self serve, out of a cooler.
Not everyone tipped and the most common tip was 50 cents. But I did get $5
once. I did keep track and I did report. I guess not everyone is that
honest.

On 5/24/2016 8:46 AM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>
>> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>>> them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>>> I'm not tipping them
>>> for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>>> extra duties.
>>>
>>
>> Nice.
>>
>> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>
>> No one holds out there hands.
>>
> I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
> Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
> some cash in it.

That is not "holding out their hands".

>> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
>> big red note.
>>
>> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
>> year.
>>
>> YMMV, and obviously does.
>>
>>
> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
> emptying garbage.

Define "darn good salary".

Oh, you can't, well then let me:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm


National Avg
$35,890
Min Max
$28k $53k
How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890 .

Maybe that's your idea of "darn good", but it's not mine.

And that's just the driver, not the assistant.

> It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
> want a paycheck.

Your own lurid fantasy, not reality.

> Why should they get paid extra for something they've
> done no extra work to earn a tip?

Because they do it well every week of your year, they do it in sometimes
crappy conditions, and they deal with your stinky REFUSE!

You haughty uncompassionate slug!

Btw, we also tip our mail carrier, newspaper carrier and hairdresser.

It seems likely they earn as little or in some cases less as the garbage
man.

> As I said, they only work 4 days a week here.

I don't ****ing care!

I bet those are every bit of 12-14 hour days they put in.

> Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
> can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.

Go try and feed a family of 4 on $35K a year.

Try and save for college.

Try and own a new car or truck.

Try and pay your mortgage.

You're a truly rotten person joann, one of the worst in an otherwise
soul-filthy group of misfits here.

On 5/24/2016 8:48 AM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>>
>>> Same here as well. But there is one truck for garbage(apple
>>> cores) and another one for recyclables. Different days for
>>> these pick ups.
>>
>> Ours are different trucks, but coming on the same day, with alternating
>> weeks for recycle and lawn/leaf waste, but garbage every week.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> Garbage once a week here and recyclables are picked up once
> a month.
>
Yes, we've already your excuse for being a stingy, uncompassionate
mumblenews.

On 5/24/2016 8:55 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage
>
> Too true!
>
> Jill


Is it Jill, is it really?

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm

Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
Updated Apr 25, 2016
National Avg
$35,890
Min Max
$28k $53k


Go try and raise and feed a family of 4 on that salary.

Rotsa ruck, you haughty, entitled, tin horn heiress!

On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:09:01 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

>On 5/24/2016 2:50 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 18:30:51 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/23/2016 6:16 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 17:57:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/23/2016 3:13 PM, Roy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Julie's world apples don't have cores...they come sliced and packaged. I wonder what she does with the packaging materials...as they are garbage too.
>>>>>> ====
>>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent question. She did say it came they came in a clam pack, which
>>>>> screams PLASTIC. How does one dispose of that in Bothell?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. That is SO much more environmentally friend than... wait for
>>>> it... a normal *unsliced* apple <G>.
>>>>
>>> Heaven knows what they are required to do with things like pumpkin or
>>> winter squash or <gasp> melon rinds.
>>>
>>> I have no idea why she'd need tomatoes "on the vine" in order to make
>>> Bacon/Lettuce/Tomato sandwiches. Suffice to say, she learned Walmart is
>>> not the best place to buy fruit or vegetables. Most of us already knew
>>> that. One of these days she'll discover farm/vegetable stands and be
>>> able to buy produce *in season*.
>>
>> Wasn't there some issue with the farm stands in her area?
>> I seem to recall there were none, or they didn't sell vegetables of
>> something like that?
>
>Yep, I recall bove denied there were any 'stands' available in the
>'universe of bothell.' I mentioned that in another post in this thread
>within the past hour or so and listed two different "farmers markets"
>(aka 'stands') available on Fridays and Sundays, respectively.

Oh, right. Thanks, I remember the stuff about 'farmer's markets' now.

On 5/24/2016 9:04 AM, Janet B wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:24:13 PM UTC-5, Capulin wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/23/2016 1:05 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trash collectors here work a 4 day week and the city stopped
>>>> them about 10 years ago from asking for tips at Christmas.
>>>> I'm not tipping them
>>>> for a job they are being paid to do that does not entail
>>>> extra duties.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nice.
>>>
>>> You're a real piece of work there, "joann".
>>>
>>> No one holds out there hands.
>>>
>> I beg your pardon. Yes, they do here. They place a
>> Christmas card on everyone's trash can hoping you stuff
>> some cash in it.
>>>
>>> We place a tip in an envelope and tape it to the top of the can with a
>>> big red note.
>>>
>>> It's a kind way of acknowledging someone with a really tough job once a
>>> year.
>>>
>>> YMMV, and obviously does.
>>>
>>>
>> They're already get a darn good salary for a job they knew entailed
>> emptying garbage. It's not like they applied for a job as a playground
>> monitor and suddenly being told they now have to pick up garbage if they
>> want a paycheck. Why should they get paid extra for something they've
>> done no extra work to earn a tip? As I said, they only work 4 days a
>> week here.
>>
>> Some of these guys were raking in an extra $10,000 per year and you
>> can bet they didn't declare it on their income taxes.
>
> It would be impossible not to report it on their income taxes. Their
> employer is required by federal law to report their wages. 'Only'
> working 4 days a week isn't a blessing. That means these guys are
> not making full wages to support a family. I don't know, what are
> darn good salaries for emptying garbage? $15-$20 per hour? Or $7? Do
> you think emptying garbage was their first choice for a job? 'Raking
> in' no longer applies to $10,000/year. That amount won't cover most
> of the utility bills and rent if one is extra frugal.
> No one said you have to tip.
> Janet US
>

Here are the FACTS:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm

Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
Updated Apr 25, 2016
National Avg
$35,890
Min Max
$28k $53k
How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890.


Now who the heck is getting rich on THAT annual salary?

My God!

The penurious ****antry of some of the people here (not you Janet B!) is
utterly appalling!

On 5/24/2016 9:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> Capulin wrote:
>>
>> Of course, he posted all sf's private data - likely you are next.
>
> No, those in the know realize that YOU did that with your
> multi-personalities here.

I DID NO SUCH THING YOU MISERABLE LIAR!

> "Many Lives, Many Masters." (It's a book I read long ago... look it
> up)

Go **** yourself, ferret boy.

> You've got cshenk confused and you've got sf completely snowed. You've
> done good with that. She thinks your other personalities are other
> people "frogging" you. LOL!

Is that why Wertz publicly CONFESSED here to frogging sf?

Is that why he publicly BEGGED her to file charges on him?

Well, is it?

> I do write occasionally to your nicer personalities because I figure
> you're probably not going to go away so I might as well just accept
> you here. Completely ignoring you isn't going to work so we might as
> well just accept you until death do us part. Hopefully, you first!
> lol

You won't be laughing when you come out of your skin and find ME waiting
to rip your evil soul into pieces!

On 5/24/2016 9:45 AM, Gary wrote:
> So clueless. Look up job opportunities in your city or town. See what
> trashmen make. In my city, they make up to $45K per year, plus tons of
> benefits and full retirement.

WRONG!

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/g...RCH_KO0,20.htm

Garbage Truck Driver Salaries
Updated Apr 25, 2016
National Avg
$35,890
Min Max
$28k $53k
How much does a Garbage Truck Driver make?
The average Garbage Truck Driver salary is $35,890 .

On 5/24/2016 9:55 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:04:33 -0600, Janet B >
> wrote:
>
>> No one said you have to tip.
>
> Yet they complain as if it was written into law.
>
Who does?

Citation?