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On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, jmcquown wrote: > On 6/3/2016 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "MaryL" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 6/2/2016 11:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>> Of course, there's a need for parents to have this discussion. If >>> anything, it should come even earlier. My parents actually gave me a >>> book that was written for children. It was called something like "How >>> A Baby Is Born," and they gave it to me almost as soon as I could >>> read. Later, I thought I needed to inform my uncle about this, and I >>> never did live that down! Sadly, pregnant girls were suspended from >>> school when I was young. >> >> Gee Mary. I am nearly 57 now. I never had this discussion with my >> parents. My mom did get me a book from the Dr. I would imagine most kids >> wouldn't want to talk about sex with their parents. > > You'd think so. I know this is anecdotal but it's true. My mother actually > talked to me about sex a few months before she died. Not "the" talk. > Somehow the discussion turned to about how people learn about sex. She told > me about when she married my Dad. Her mother, who had had 4 children, three > of them girls, didn't tell her anything. There was no "what to expect on > your wedding night" chat. Her two sisters, one older, one younger, didn't > know a thing about sex either. No help there. Grandpa sure as heck wasn't > going to bring it up! LOL She told me she was absolutely terrified on her > wedding night. No one had told her a thing. > > Back then it really did make sense to have the talk. And it still makes > sense, because that way you know the kids aren't getting misinformation. The > grapevine and online stuff. Believe it or not, some people still believe > "you can't get pregnant the first time". Uh... Talking about sex with your kids isn't just for the basic biological and mechanical stuff, there should be discussions about morals and ethics and possible consequences and so forth. It doesn't even need to have any kind of religious bias to it, but sex is more than a biological function, it's part of relationships, too. Discussions about safety, exploitation, date rape, at an age appropriate time by a parent is important. Even if a kid does what they want (which they usually do) at least you cannot say they didn't understand the family's position on the issues or that they didn't know about x, y, or z when it comes to sex and sexual matters. |
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: > > "Janet B" > wrote in message > ... >> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:40:14 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>> .. . >>>>> In article >, says... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>>>> .. . >>>>>> > In article >, >>>>>> > says... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:45:22 -0300, wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:30:07 -0600, Janet B > >>>>>> >> >wrote: >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>>On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:13:05 -0500, jinx the minx >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >>>wrote: >>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>snip >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>To put the risk into perspective, 12,000 women are diagnosed >> >>>>>> >>>>with >>>>>> >> >>>>cervical >>>>>> >> >>>>cancer in the US alone each year. There are, on average, only >>>>>> >> >>>>267 >>>>>> >> >>>>injuries >>>>>> >> >>>>and fatalities from lightning strikes in the US each year, but >>>>>> >> >>>>I'd >>>>>> >> >>>>bet you >>>>>> >> >>>>take precautions when a storm is occurring. And by precautions >>>>>> >> >>>>I >>>>>> >> >>>>mean, you >>>>>> >> >>>>know better then to stand under a tree with a metal rod in your >>>>>> >> >>>>hand >>>>>> >> >>>>when >>>>>> >> >>>>it's lightning. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>What I find interesting about the resistance to the vaccine is >> >>>>>> >>that >>>>>> >> >>we've heard since our childhood about the necessity to find a >> >>>>>> >>"cure" >>>>>> >> >>for cancer yet here we have a "prevention" for a cancer and there >>>>>> >> >>are >>>>>> >> >>those who do not want to take it. I'd rather go for a prevention >>>>>> >> >>than >>>>>> >> >>all the ugly possibilities a cure entails. >>>>>> >> >>BTW, cervical cancer takes about 10-20 years to develop. >> >>>>>> >>Cervical >>>>>> >> >>cancer from HPV infection does not show symptoms immediately. >>>>>> >> >>Janet US >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >That's correct - I remember a friend of my elder daughter having a >>>>>> >> >pap >>>>>> >> >smear that revealed cancerous cells were present. If she had >> >>>>>> >decided >>>>>> >> >she wouldn't bother with a pap smear it would not have ended well. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >There was also the stupid autism scare over the measles/whooping >>>>>> >> >cough/mumps vaccination. Much further down the road the 'doctor' >>>>>> >> >whose study showed a definite link was taken to court and charged >>>>>> >> >and >>>>>> >> >then admitted there was no study, he had been paid a handsome sum >>>>>> >> >by >>>>>> >> >the drug companies. Even though he was totally discredited, >> >>>>>> >people >>>>>> >> >still quote him today. Hope he rots in hell because he has given >>>>>> >> >all >>>>>> >> >these quacky parents an excuse for not protecting their children. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >I don't understand people like Julie, she has the opportunity to >>>>>> >> >protect her daughter (who is currently too young to fully >> >>>>>> >understand >>>>>> >> >the ramafications of not having the Gardasil) but she erroneously >>>>>> >> >comes up with disproved objections. If the daughter has a >> >>>>>> >positive >>>>>> >> >pap smear, hope she feels good then. That's if she has a regular >>>>>> >> >pap >>>>>> >> >smear. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> from what I have read, the major resistance to getting the vaccine >>>>>> >> is >>>>>> >> because it is recommended for 12 year old children. Parents simply >>>>>> >> can't handle thinking in terms of sexual consequences within their >>>>>> >> children's lives. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Which is strange, because many 12 yr olds have reached puberty and >>>>>> > assorted manifestations of their fertility; so you'd think most > >>>>>> parents >>>>>> > would have at least begun to talk to them about sex. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Janet UK >>>>>> >>>>>> Sex ed begins in elementary school here. I can only speak for our >>>>>> school >>>>>> district. My comment was at her wording. Made it sound like she wanted >>>>>> to >>>>>> have sex with her kids. That's what I found to be sick. >>>>> >>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to your >>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension >>>> >>>> She did say it. >> >> Julie said: >But it is controversial. >> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of >> their children as sexual beings." >> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I >> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate >> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about >> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. >> Janet US > > Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's rather > sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also not a > compulsive liar. > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being > > " A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most of the > time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can also refer to a > very attractive man or woman. > Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was walking? > > Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" > I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female teacher has > had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like you used, I will call > it out. > > Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up your > wording before you use it. > "urban dictionary.com"??? Just stop. LOL. |
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On 6/4/2016 10:40 AM, barbie gee wrote:
> > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: > >> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to your >>>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension >>>>> >>>>> She did say it. >>> >>> Julie said: >But it is controversial. >>> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of >>> their children as sexual beings." >>> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I >>> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate >>> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about >>> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. >>> Janet US >> >> Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's >> rather sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also >> not a compulsive liar. >> >> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being >> >> " A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most >> of the time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can >> also refer to a very attractive man or woman. >> Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was >> walking? >> >> Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" >> I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female >> teacher has had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like >> you used, I will call it out. >> >> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up >> your wording before you use it. > > "urban dictionary.com"??? > > Just stop. LOL. She's clueless. She's the one with the dirty mind. Children are born with sex organs. Therefore at some point they will become "sexual beings", i.e. sexually aware. Attracted to whatever sex they're born to be attracted to (no homophobia here). They'll wonder, question, they need information. Not someone burying their head in the sand and letting the school system and the kids friends passing on misinformation. I got my alleged sex talk in health class when I was about 13. It didn't tell me a damn thing. It was basically an anatomy lesson. Gee, I already knew boys had different organs. How very informative. Heh. Jill |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message ...
On 6/4/2016 1:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote: > They kept doing the same tests on me over and over again. I had > mentioned this to someone and they questioned why this would be done as > it was only needed once. Then when they said they wanted to do a second > amniocentesis, I asked them. The midwife just shrugged and said that my > insurance would pay for it so why not? She then added that with the > military insurance, they would just order up all the tests they could. > After that, I questioned every single test they wanted to do. At least > they seemed to be honest when they said it wasn't needed. Unfortunately lots of doctors seem to think this way. The specialist I was referred to in 2008 wanted to remove part of my lower intestine. Oh, the warnings were dire! "You'll need an ostomy bag within 3 years if you don't let me do this!" That was his tune until I informed him I didn't have an insurance company for him to bilk. Jill ====== Same with me forty or so years ago when doctor kept insisting that I needed a full hysterectomy due to fibroid tumors, I said no enough times that he stopped insisting. Well, I'm almost 70 now and still with all my parts in spite of all the dire warnings, but he has passed. I imagine he was lining his pockets as well. Cheri |
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On 6/4/2016 11:19 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message ... > > On 6/4/2016 1:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> They kept doing the same tests on me over and over again. I had >> mentioned this to someone and they questioned why this would be done as >> it was only needed once. Then when they said they wanted to do a second >> amniocentesis, I asked them. The midwife just shrugged and said that my >> insurance would pay for it so why not? She then added that with the >> military insurance, they would just order up all the tests they could. >> After that, I questioned every single test they wanted to do. At least >> they seemed to be honest when they said it wasn't needed. > > Unfortunately lots of doctors seem to think this way. The specialist I > was referred to in 2008 wanted to remove part of my lower intestine. > Oh, the warnings were dire! "You'll need an ostomy bag within 3 years > if you don't let me do this!" That was his tune until I informed him I > didn't have an insurance company for him to bilk. > > Jill > ====== > > Same with me forty or so years ago when doctor kept insisting that I > needed a full hysterectomy due to fibroid tumors, I said no enough times > that he stopped insisting. Well, I'm almost 70 now and still with all my > parts in spite of all the dire warnings, but he has passed. I imagine he > was lining his pockets as well. > > Cheri > It's sad, isn't it? Allegedly doctors go into medicine to help people. That doesn't equate with pushing unnecessary surgery on their patients. I guess if they were being paid in eggs and home canned goods <G> rather than by insurance companies they wouldn't be quite so enthusiastic. One big problem, I think, is people are afraid to question, much less challenge, their doctors. The perception seems to be they have a medical degree, therefore they're somehow god-like. I am not afraid to ask questions or to say "no". Obviously you aren't, either.  Jill |
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 21:59:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Janet B" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > >> wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:40:14 -0700, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Janet" > wrote in message et... >>>>> In article >, says... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>>>> .. . >>>>>> > In article >, >>>>>> > says... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:45:22 -0300, wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:30:07 -0600, Janet B > >>>>>> >> >wrote: >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>>On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:13:05 -0500, jinx the minx >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >>>wrote: >>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>snip >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>To put the risk into perspective, 12,000 women are diagnosed >>>>>> >> >>>>with >>>>>> >> >>>>cervical >>>>>> >> >>>>cancer in the US alone each year. There are, on average, only >>>>>> >> >>>>267 >>>>>> >> >>>>injuries >>>>>> >> >>>>and fatalities from lightning strikes in the US each year, but >>>>>> >> >>>>I'd >>>>>> >> >>>>bet you >>>>>> >> >>>>take precautions when a storm is occurring. And by precautions >>>>>> >> >>>>I >>>>>> >> >>>>mean, you >>>>>> >> >>>>know better then to stand under a tree with a metal rod in your >>>>>> >> >>>>hand >>>>>> >> >>>>when >>>>>> >> >>>>it's lightning. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>What I find interesting about the resistance to the vaccine is >>>>>> >> >>that >>>>>> >> >>we've heard since our childhood about the necessity to find a >>>>>> >> >>"cure" >>>>>> >> >>for cancer yet here we have a "prevention" for a cancer and there >>>>>> >> >>are >>>>>> >> >>those who do not want to take it. I'd rather go for a prevention >>>>>> >> >>than >>>>>> >> >>all the ugly possibilities a cure entails. >>>>>> >> >>BTW, cervical cancer takes about 10-20 years to develop. >>>>>> >> >>Cervical >>>>>> >> >>cancer from HPV infection does not show symptoms immediately. >>>>>> >> >>Janet US >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >That's correct - I remember a friend of my elder daughter having a >>>>>> >> >pap >>>>>> >> >smear that revealed cancerous cells were present. If she had >>>>>> >> >decided >>>>>> >> >she wouldn't bother with a pap smear it would not have ended well. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >There was also the stupid autism scare over the measles/whooping >>>>>> >> >cough/mumps vaccination. Much further down the road the 'doctor' >>>>>> >> >whose study showed a definite link was taken to court and charged >>>>>> >> >and >>>>>> >> >then admitted there was no study, he had been paid a handsome sum >>>>>> >> >by >>>>>> >> >the drug companies. Even though he was totally discredited, >>>>>> >> >people >>>>>> >> >still quote him today. Hope he rots in hell because he has given >>>>>> >> >all >>>>>> >> >these quacky parents an excuse for not protecting their children. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >I don't understand people like Julie, she has the opportunity to >>>>>> >> >protect her daughter (who is currently too young to fully >>>>>> >> >understand >>>>>> >> >the ramafications of not having the Gardasil) but she erroneously >>>>>> >> >comes up with disproved objections. If the daughter has a >>>>>> >> >positive >>>>>> >> >pap smear, hope she feels good then. That's if she has a regular >>>>>> >> >pap >>>>>> >> >smear. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> from what I have read, the major resistance to getting the vaccine >>>>>> >> is >>>>>> >> because it is recommended for 12 year old children. Parents simply >>>>>> >> can't handle thinking in terms of sexual consequences within their >>>>>> >> children's lives. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Which is strange, because many 12 yr olds have reached puberty and >>>>>> > assorted manifestations of their fertility; so you'd think most >>>>>> > parents >>>>>> > would have at least begun to talk to them about sex. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Janet UK >>>>>> >>>>>> Sex ed begins in elementary school here. I can only speak for our >>>>>> school >>>>>> district. My comment was at her wording. Made it sound like she wanted >>>>>> to >>>>>> have sex with her kids. That's what I found to be sick. >>>>> >>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to your >>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension >>>> >>>>She did say it. >> >> Julie said: >But it is controversial. >> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of >> their children as sexual beings." >> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I >> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate >> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about >> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. >> Janet US > >Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's rather >sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also not a >compulsive liar. > >http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being > >" A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most of >the time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can also refer >to a very attractive man or woman. >Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was walking? > >Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" >I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female teacher >has had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like you used, I will >call it out. > >Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up your >wording before you use it. LOL You just proved my point. Your hangups about sex reflected immediately to thoughts about sex and how dirty it is. It is your hangup and that of other parents that is keeping children from getting the vaccine. You couldn't even understand that the idea is about your children having sex (with other children sooner or later). Stick your fingers in your ears and sing la-la-la-la-la. LOL,LOL,LOL Janet US |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 6/4/2016 11:19 AM, Cheri wrote: >> "jmcquown" wrote in message ... >> >> On 6/4/2016 1:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> They kept doing the same tests on me over and over again. I had >>> mentioned this to someone and they questioned why this would be done as >>> it was only needed once. Then when they said they wanted to do a second >>> amniocentesis, I asked them. The midwife just shrugged and said that my >>> insurance would pay for it so why not? She then added that with the >>> military insurance, they would just order up all the tests they could. >>> After that, I questioned every single test they wanted to do. At least >>> they seemed to be honest when they said it wasn't needed. >> >> Unfortunately lots of doctors seem to think this way. The specialist I >> was referred to in 2008 wanted to remove part of my lower intestine. >> Oh, the warnings were dire! "You'll need an ostomy bag within 3 years >> if you don't let me do this!" That was his tune until I informed him I >> didn't have an insurance company for him to bilk. >> >> Jill >> ====== >> >> Same with me forty or so years ago when doctor kept insisting that I >> needed a full hysterectomy due to fibroid tumors, I said no enough times >> that he stopped insisting. Well, I'm almost 70 now and still with all my >> parts in spite of all the dire warnings, but he has passed. I imagine he >> was lining his pockets as well. >> >> Cheri >> > It's sad, isn't it? Allegedly doctors go into medicine to help people. > That doesn't equate with pushing unnecessary surgery on their patients. I > guess if they were being paid in eggs and home canned goods <G> rather > than by insurance companies they wouldn't be quite so enthusiastic. > > One big problem, I think, is people are afraid to question, much less > challenge, their doctors. The perception seems to be they have a medical > degree, therefore they're somehow god-like. I am not afraid to ask > questions or to say "no". Obviously you aren't, either. > > Jill Yes, and some when you do challenge them put "non-compliant" on your chart. With the doctor I was talking about, it was sort of a joke around town that he kept Wednesdays open for his hysterectomies. Cheri |
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On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 9:37:07 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 21:59:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > > > >"Janet B" > wrote in message > .. . > >> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > > >> wrote: > >> > >>>On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:40:14 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>>"Janet" > wrote in message > et... > >>>>> In article >, says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message > >>>>>> .. . > >>>>>> > In article >, > >>>>>> > says... > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:45:22 -0300, wrote: > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:30:07 -0600, Janet B > > >>>>>> >> >wrote: > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >>>On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:13:05 -0500, jinx the minx > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> >>>wrote: > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>snip > >>>>>> >> >>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>To put the risk into perspective, 12,000 women are diagnosed > >>>>>> >> >>>>with > >>>>>> >> >>>>cervical > >>>>>> >> >>>>cancer in the US alone each year. There are, on average, only > >>>>>> >> >>>>267 > >>>>>> >> >>>>injuries > >>>>>> >> >>>>and fatalities from lightning strikes in the US each year, but > >>>>>> >> >>>>I'd > >>>>>> >> >>>>bet you > >>>>>> >> >>>>take precautions when a storm is occurring. And by precautions > >>>>>> >> >>>>I > >>>>>> >> >>>>mean, you > >>>>>> >> >>>>know better then to stand under a tree with a metal rod in your > >>>>>> >> >>>>hand > >>>>>> >> >>>>when > >>>>>> >> >>>>it's lightning. > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >>What I find interesting about the resistance to the vaccine is > >>>>>> >> >>that > >>>>>> >> >>we've heard since our childhood about the necessity to find a > >>>>>> >> >>"cure" > >>>>>> >> >>for cancer yet here we have a "prevention" for a cancer and there > >>>>>> >> >>are > >>>>>> >> >>those who do not want to take it. I'd rather go for a prevention > >>>>>> >> >>than > >>>>>> >> >>all the ugly possibilities a cure entails. > >>>>>> >> >>BTW, cervical cancer takes about 10-20 years to develop. > >>>>>> >> >>Cervical > >>>>>> >> >>cancer from HPV infection does not show symptoms immediately. > >>>>>> >> >>Janet US > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> >That's correct - I remember a friend of my elder daughter having a > >>>>>> >> >pap > >>>>>> >> >smear that revealed cancerous cells were present. If she had > >>>>>> >> >decided > >>>>>> >> >she wouldn't bother with a pap smear it would not have ended well. > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> >There was also the stupid autism scare over the measles/whooping > >>>>>> >> >cough/mumps vaccination. Much further down the road the 'doctor' > >>>>>> >> >whose study showed a definite link was taken to court and charged > >>>>>> >> >and > >>>>>> >> >then admitted there was no study, he had been paid a handsome sum > >>>>>> >> >by > >>>>>> >> >the drug companies. Even though he was totally discredited, > >>>>>> >> >people > >>>>>> >> >still quote him today. Hope he rots in hell because he has given > >>>>>> >> >all > >>>>>> >> >these quacky parents an excuse for not protecting their children. > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> >I don't understand people like Julie, she has the opportunity to > >>>>>> >> >protect her daughter (who is currently too young to fully > >>>>>> >> >understand > >>>>>> >> >the ramafications of not having the Gardasil) but she erroneously > >>>>>> >> >comes up with disproved objections. If the daughter has a > >>>>>> >> >positive > >>>>>> >> >pap smear, hope she feels good then. That's if she has a regular > >>>>>> >> >pap > >>>>>> >> >smear. > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> from what I have read, the major resistance to getting the vaccine > >>>>>> >> is > >>>>>> >> because it is recommended for 12 year old children. Parents simply > >>>>>> >> can't handle thinking in terms of sexual consequences within their > >>>>>> >> children's lives. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Which is strange, because many 12 yr olds have reached puberty and > >>>>>> > assorted manifestations of their fertility; so you'd think most > >>>>>> > parents > >>>>>> > would have at least begun to talk to them about sex. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Janet UK > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sex ed begins in elementary school here. I can only speak for our > >>>>>> school > >>>>>> district. My comment was at her wording. Made it sound like she wanted > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> have sex with her kids. That's what I found to be sick. > >>>>> > >>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to your > >>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension > >>>> > >>>>She did say it. > >> > >> Julie said: >But it is controversial. > >> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of > >> their children as sexual beings." > >> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I > >> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate > >> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about > >> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. > >> Janet US > > > >Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's rather > >sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also not a > >compulsive liar. > > > >http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being > > > >" A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most of > >the time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can also refer > >to a very attractive man or woman. > >Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was walking? > > > >Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" > >I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female teacher > >has had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like you used, I will > >call it out. > > > >Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up your > >wording before you use it. > > LOL You just proved my point. Your hangups about sex reflected > immediately to thoughts about sex and how dirty it is. It is your > hangup and that of other parents that is keeping children from getting > the vaccine. You couldn't even understand that the idea is about your > children having sex (with other children sooner or later). Stick your > fingers in your ears and sing la-la-la-la-la. LOL,LOL,LOL > Janet US I'm afraid Julie is "beyond repair" and will never use common sense regarding preventative measures to avoid future problems. She may rue the day but we can't control her life or live it for her. ==== |
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Julie Bove > wrote:
> > "jinx the minx" > wrote in message > ... >> Julie Bove > wrote: >>> >>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> cshenk > wrote: >>>>> jinx the minx wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>>> >>>>>> Julie Bove > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In article >, >>>>>> cshenk1 >>> @cox.net says... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In article >, says... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Janet wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article >, >>>>>>>>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet B wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All medications come with fact sheets that lay out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible side effects. My grandsons have had the shots. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you ever read those fact sheets though. They'll scare >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you away from anything that you have to take. Even new drug >>>>>>>>>>>>>> commercials spend more time telling you about the side >>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects rather than the benefits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, this new vaccine should be up to the young teens. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most 12 yr olds have no concept of their own vulnerability >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the commonest STD in USA; and you can hardly expect them >>>>>>>>>>>>> to grasp it might kill them in one of several particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible ways. Kids might "know" that people die from >>>>>>>>>>>>> smoking, drugs, alcohol; but they are so sure it won't happen >>>>>>>>>>>>> to them they do that stuff anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> They are almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adults and should be given the option whether to take them >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not. Of course, some teens are NOT sexually active so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they don't need the vaccine until they do start having sex. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You miss the point. Young teens might not be having >>>>>>>>>>>>> penetrative intercourse, but they may be open-mouth kissing >>>>>>>>>>>>> and mutually masturbating, and HPV can be transmitted by both. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a fairly new drug and very untested as to long term >>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects. I never had it and neither did you. My daughter >>>>>>>>>>>>>> never got it either. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you both have HPV. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "HPV is the most common sexually transmitted infection >>>>>>>>>>>>> (STI). HPV is so common that nearly all sexually active men >>>>>>>>>>>>> and women get it at some point in their lives." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have it, Janet? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Given the statistics of HPV prevalence I've probably had it, >>>>>>>>>>> decades before vaccination was available. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have you been vaccinated? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Of course not, stupid. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Janet UK >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I got it in 2007-2008 or so. Military related service thing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bit late in the day! Don't you have a daughter in college? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Unless she is an infant genius or your name is Mary, you must >>>>>> have >>> been sexually active long before 2007. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Janet UK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It may have been late in the day, but that was in the first year >>>>>> or so >> of it coming out and suspect the folks thought it would help >>>>>> if you >> didnt have it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think so. Was it really a series of three shots? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree with you here. It is not and has never been a required shot >>>>>> for any branch of the military. And the guidelines for who should >>>>>> get the shot have not changed. There was never a time when "folks >>>>>> thought it would help". Perhaps it was offered to her, but there >>>>>> would be zero reason for an older married woman to get it. I'm >>>>>> fairly certain she's confused the HPV with HBV vaccine, which is also >>>>>> a series scheduled shot. >>>>> >>>>> Please list your dates of service and AOR and how 'military related' >>>>> translates to 'required' in your lexicon or go sit down and color. >>>>> >>>> >>>> So in other words, since it wasn't "required", you took advantage of >>>> your >>>> taxpayer funded military healthcare benefit to request a shot that was >>>> of >>>> ZERO benefit to you to get just because you could. Either that, or you >>>> are >>>> mistaken about what shot you actually received, since it is not covered >>>> through the military as a health benefit for women over the age of 27. >>>> Stop posturing, carol, you're not the bmoc you think you are. >>>> -- >>>> jinx the minx >>> >>> I can't speak for her and in this case I do believe she is confused. >>> >>> I do remember when I was pregnant. They kept doing the same tests on me >>> over >>> and over again. I had mentioned this to someone and they questioned why >>> this >>> would be done as it was only needed once. Then when they said they wanted >>> to >>> do a second amniocentesis, I asked them. The midwife just shrugged and >>> said >>> that my insurance would pay for it so why not? She then added that with >>> the >>> military insurance, they would just order up all the tests they could. >>> After >>> that, I questioned every single test they wanted to do. At least they >>> seemed >>> to be honest when they said it wasn't needed. >>> >>> >> >> SMH, that's incredible. I know the risks are small, but that they would >> subject you (and your baby) to it twice without good reason is just ...not >> good. That is one test I refused. > > I had no choice on that one given my age and the fact that certain known > problems occur on my husband's side of the family. I guess I could have > refused but it was likely best not to. But... It was not a test I would wish > on anyone. Very painful and they had trouble inserting the needle. In the > end, I was turned totally upside down and my husband had to hold my ankles > so I wouldn't fall. > > Also, we had to leave the Cape and go to Boston because they had the special > equipment there. I was to arrive with a full bladder but then they made me > sit through two hours of counseling. I was about to burst and I'd had no > breakfast yet either. They told me to arrive fasting. > > Then when they tried to do the test, they said I had too much liquid in my > bladder and to pee some of it off. Repeat, repeat, repeat until finally they > just had me empty my bladder. I couldn't believe how long it took them. > They even had to call someone else in to help. > > We got there at 8:00 a.m. and it was after lunch when we left. I wound up > passing out on the way to the car. At least a really cute guy saw me sliding > down the wall. He caught me and then helped me get to the car. Meanwhile, my > husband was standing by the car with the engine running, calling my name and > wondering where I had gone. Wasn't a fun day. > > Sounds like a nightmare. I also had my kid at 39 but still refused it since all the other tests that went along with it were all fine and the outcome wouldn't have changed anything for me. -- jinx the minx |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 6/3/2016 6:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> I got all sorts of vaccines as a child. No ill effects. I do know I >>> couldn't be enrolled in school (I went to a lot of them!) without Mom >>> providing my shot records. I'm sure that general rule (if not law) >>> goes back to before I was born. >> >> Well, that's you. I became so ill after a flu shot, I've never had >> another. My husband became ill after one too. And my friend had issues >> where her arm swelled so badly that she had to go to the hospital. > > I wasn't talking about flu shots. I was talking about basic vaccinations > required by most school systems. They hadn't developed flu vaccines when > you and I were in school. I got the flu after getting a flu shot... there > is no single strain of the flu so I don't bother anymore. They certainly had! I was a kid when I got one! |
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"barbie gee" > wrote in message hcrg.pbz... > > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: > >> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:40:14 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>>> .. . >>>>>> In article >, >>>>>> says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>>>>> .. . >>>>>>> > In article >, >>>>>>> > says... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:45:22 -0300, wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:30:07 -0600, Janet B >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >wrote: >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:13:05 -0500, jinx the minx >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >>>wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>snip >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>To put the risk into perspective, 12,000 women are diagnosed >>>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>with >>>>>>> >> >>>>cervical >>>>>>> >> >>>>cancer in the US alone each year. There are, on average, >>>>>>> >> >>>>only 267 >>>>>>> >> >>>>injuries >>>>>>> >> >>>>and fatalities from lightning strikes in the US each year, >>>>>>> >> >>>>but I'd >>>>>>> >> >>>>bet you >>>>>>> >> >>>>take precautions when a storm is occurring. And by >>>>>>> >> >>>>precautions I >>>>>>> >> >>>>mean, you >>>>>>> >> >>>>know better then to stand under a tree with a metal rod in >>>>>>> >> >>>>your >>>>>>> >> >>>>hand >>>>>>> >> >>>>when >>>>>>> >> >>>>it's lightning. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>What I find interesting about the resistance to the vaccine is >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>that >>>>>>> >> >>we've heard since our childhood about the necessity to find a >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>"cure" >>>>>>> >> >>for cancer yet here we have a "prevention" for a cancer and >>>>>>> >> >>there >>>>>>> >> >>are >>>>>>> >> >>those who do not want to take it. I'd rather go for a >>>>>>> >> >>prevention >>>>>>> >> >>than >>>>>>> >> >>all the ugly possibilities a cure entails. >>>>>>> >> >>BTW, cervical cancer takes about 10-20 years to develop. >> >>>>>>> >>Cervical >>>>>>> >> >>cancer from HPV infection does not show symptoms immediately. >>>>>>> >> >>Janet US >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >That's correct - I remember a friend of my elder daughter having >>>>>>> >> >a >>>>>>> >> >pap >>>>>>> >> >smear that revealed cancerous cells were present. If she had >> >>>>>>> >decided >>>>>>> >> >she wouldn't bother with a pap smear it would not have ended >>>>>>> >> >well. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >There was also the stupid autism scare over the measles/whooping >>>>>>> >> >cough/mumps vaccination. Much further down the road the >>>>>>> >> >'doctor' >>>>>>> >> >whose study showed a definite link was taken to court and >>>>>>> >> >charged and >>>>>>> >> >then admitted there was no study, he had been paid a handsome >>>>>>> >> >sum by >>>>>>> >> >the drug companies. Even though he was totally discredited, >> >>>>>>> >people >>>>>>> >> >still quote him today. Hope he rots in hell because he has >>>>>>> >> >given all >>>>>>> >> >these quacky parents an excuse for not protecting their >>>>>>> >> >children. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >I don't understand people like Julie, she has the opportunity to >>>>>>> >> >protect her daughter (who is currently too young to fully >> >>>>>>> >understand >>>>>>> >> >the ramafications of not having the Gardasil) but she >>>>>>> >> >erroneously >>>>>>> >> >comes up with disproved objections. If the daughter has a >> >>>>>>> >positive >>>>>>> >> >pap smear, hope she feels good then. That's if she has a >>>>>>> >> >regular pap >>>>>>> >> >smear. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> from what I have read, the major resistance to getting the >>>>>>> >> vaccine is >>>>>>> >> because it is recommended for 12 year old children. Parents >>>>>>> >> simply >>>>>>> >> can't handle thinking in terms of sexual consequences within >>>>>>> >> their >>>>>>> >> children's lives. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Which is strange, because many 12 yr olds have reached puberty >>>>>>> > and >>>>>>> > assorted manifestations of their fertility; so you'd think most > >>>>>>> parents >>>>>>> > would have at least begun to talk to them about sex. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Janet UK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sex ed begins in elementary school here. I can only speak for our >>>>>>> school >>>>>>> district. My comment was at her wording. Made it sound like she >>>>>>> wanted to >>>>>>> have sex with her kids. That's what I found to be sick. >>>>>> >>>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to your >>>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension >>>>> >>>>> She did say it. >>> >>> Julie said: >But it is controversial. >>> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of >>> their children as sexual beings." >>> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I >>> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate >>> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about >>> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. >>> Janet US >> >> Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's rather >> sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also not a >> compulsive liar. >> >> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being >> >> " A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most of >> the time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can also >> refer to a very attractive man or woman. >> Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was >> walking? >> >> Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" >> I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female teacher >> has had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like you used, I >> will call it out. >> >> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up your >> wording before you use it. > > "urban dictionary.com"??? > > Just stop. LOL. It isn't funny. |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 6/4/2016 10:40 AM, barbie gee wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>> >>> "Janet B" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to your >>>>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension >>>>>> >>>>>> She did say it. >>>> >>>> Julie said: >But it is controversial. >>>> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of >>>> their children as sexual beings." >>>> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I >>>> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate >>>> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about >>>> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. >>>> Janet US >>> >>> Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's >>> rather sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also >>> not a compulsive liar. >>> >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being >>> >>> " A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most >>> of the time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can >>> also refer to a very attractive man or woman. >>> Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was >>> walking? >>> >>> Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" >>> I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female >>> teacher has had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like >>> you used, I will call it out. >>> >>> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up >>> your wording before you use it. >> >> "urban dictionary.com"??? >> >> Just stop. LOL. > > She's clueless. She's the one with the dirty mind. Children are born > with sex organs. Therefore at some point they will become "sexual > beings", i.e. sexually aware. Attracted to whatever sex they're born to > be attracted to (no homophobia here). They'll wonder, question, they need > information. Not someone burying their head in the sand and letting the > school system and the kids friends passing on misinformation. > > I got my alleged sex talk in health class when I was about 13. It didn't > tell me a damn thing. It was basically an anatomy lesson. Gee, I already > knew boys had different organs. How very informative. Heh. That is not what I was talking about. In my eyes, children would be somewhere around 10 and under. Then you have tweens and teens. Yes, minors do have sex. Sometimes it is because they are sexually abused. Sometimes some would say it is of their own choosing but... Since they are minors, some, and in some cases, the law would say otherwise. Sex ed in the schools here now is not like that at all. Everything is covered. Being sexually aware is not the same thing as looking at someone as a sexual being. If you are looking at a minor like that, I still say you are a sicko. |
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"Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 21:59:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:40:14 -0700, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Janet" > wrote in message . net... >>>>>> In article >, >>>>>> says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>>>>> .. . >>>>>>> > In article >, >>>>>>> > says... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:45:22 -0300, wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:30:07 -0600, Janet B >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >wrote: >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:13:05 -0500, jinx the minx >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >>>wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>snip >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>To put the risk into perspective, 12,000 women are diagnosed >>>>>>> >> >>>>with >>>>>>> >> >>>>cervical >>>>>>> >> >>>>cancer in the US alone each year. There are, on average, >>>>>>> >> >>>>only >>>>>>> >> >>>>267 >>>>>>> >> >>>>injuries >>>>>>> >> >>>>and fatalities from lightning strikes in the US each year, >>>>>>> >> >>>>but >>>>>>> >> >>>>I'd >>>>>>> >> >>>>bet you >>>>>>> >> >>>>take precautions when a storm is occurring. And by >>>>>>> >> >>>>precautions >>>>>>> >> >>>>I >>>>>>> >> >>>>mean, you >>>>>>> >> >>>>know better then to stand under a tree with a metal rod in >>>>>>> >> >>>>your >>>>>>> >> >>>>hand >>>>>>> >> >>>>when >>>>>>> >> >>>>it's lightning. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>What I find interesting about the resistance to the vaccine is >>>>>>> >> >>that >>>>>>> >> >>we've heard since our childhood about the necessity to find a >>>>>>> >> >>"cure" >>>>>>> >> >>for cancer yet here we have a "prevention" for a cancer and >>>>>>> >> >>there >>>>>>> >> >>are >>>>>>> >> >>those who do not want to take it. I'd rather go for a >>>>>>> >> >>prevention >>>>>>> >> >>than >>>>>>> >> >>all the ugly possibilities a cure entails. >>>>>>> >> >>BTW, cervical cancer takes about 10-20 years to develop. >>>>>>> >> >>Cervical >>>>>>> >> >>cancer from HPV infection does not show symptoms immediately. >>>>>>> >> >>Janet US >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >That's correct - I remember a friend of my elder daughter having >>>>>>> >> >a >>>>>>> >> >pap >>>>>>> >> >smear that revealed cancerous cells were present. If she had >>>>>>> >> >decided >>>>>>> >> >she wouldn't bother with a pap smear it would not have ended >>>>>>> >> >well. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >There was also the stupid autism scare over the measles/whooping >>>>>>> >> >cough/mumps vaccination. Much further down the road the >>>>>>> >> >'doctor' >>>>>>> >> >whose study showed a definite link was taken to court and >>>>>>> >> >charged >>>>>>> >> >and >>>>>>> >> >then admitted there was no study, he had been paid a handsome >>>>>>> >> >sum >>>>>>> >> >by >>>>>>> >> >the drug companies. Even though he was totally discredited, >>>>>>> >> >people >>>>>>> >> >still quote him today. Hope he rots in hell because he has >>>>>>> >> >given >>>>>>> >> >all >>>>>>> >> >these quacky parents an excuse for not protecting their >>>>>>> >> >children. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >I don't understand people like Julie, she has the opportunity to >>>>>>> >> >protect her daughter (who is currently too young to fully >>>>>>> >> >understand >>>>>>> >> >the ramafications of not having the Gardasil) but she >>>>>>> >> >erroneously >>>>>>> >> >comes up with disproved objections. If the daughter has a >>>>>>> >> >positive >>>>>>> >> >pap smear, hope she feels good then. That's if she has a >>>>>>> >> >regular >>>>>>> >> >pap >>>>>>> >> >smear. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> from what I have read, the major resistance to getting the >>>>>>> >> vaccine >>>>>>> >> is >>>>>>> >> because it is recommended for 12 year old children. Parents >>>>>>> >> simply >>>>>>> >> can't handle thinking in terms of sexual consequences within >>>>>>> >> their >>>>>>> >> children's lives. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Which is strange, because many 12 yr olds have reached puberty >>>>>>> > and >>>>>>> > assorted manifestations of their fertility; so you'd think most >>>>>>> > parents >>>>>>> > would have at least begun to talk to them about sex. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Janet UK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sex ed begins in elementary school here. I can only speak for our >>>>>>> school >>>>>>> district. My comment was at her wording. Made it sound like she >>>>>>> wanted >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> have sex with her kids. That's what I found to be sick. >>>>>> >>>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to your >>>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension >>>>> >>>>>She did say it. >>> >>> Julie said: >But it is controversial. >>> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of >>> their children as sexual beings." >>> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I >>> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate >>> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about >>> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. >>> Janet US >> >>Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's rather >>sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also not a >>compulsive liar. >> >>http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being >> >>" A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most of >>the time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can also >>refer >>to a very attractive man or woman. >>Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was >>walking? >> >>Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" >>I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female teacher >>has had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like you used, I >>will >>call it out. >> >>Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up your >>wording before you use it. > > LOL You just proved my point. Your hangups about sex reflected > immediately to thoughts about sex and how dirty it is. It is your > hangup and that of other parents that is keeping children from getting > the vaccine. You couldn't even understand that the idea is about your > children having sex (with other children sooner or later). Stick your > fingers in your ears and sing la-la-la-la-la. LOL,LOL,LOL > Janet US My hang-ups? Oh you are hysterically funny. I have no hang-ups. But an adult wanting to have sex with a minor is wrong. Pretty sure the law will back me up on this one. I am not going to tell you at what age I lost my virginity. But I wasn't a virgin when I was married. My husband and I lived together before we were married. And prior to my being 21, I lived with another man. And I could tell you other things but I won't because it's none of your business. I did say I am a mod for an 18 and over site. That in and of itself should give you a big clue. But no... I do know that teens have sex. My daughter has friends who have children. Yes, children as in they are old enough now not to be babies any more. I certainly do not have my head in the sand. And the reason my daughter did not get this vaccine has nothing to do with sex. You are just about as clueless as they come. But whatever. |
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"Roy" > wrote in message ... > On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 9:37:07 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote: >> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 21:59:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >"Janet B" > wrote in message >> .. . >> >> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:40:14 -0700, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Janet" > wrote in message >> et... >> >>>>> In article >, >> >>>>> says... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >> >>>>>> .. . >> >>>>>> > In article >, >> >>>>>> > says... >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:45:22 -0300, wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:30:07 -0600, Janet B >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> >wrote: >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>>On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:13:05 -0500, jinx the minx >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> >>>wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >>>>>> >> >>snip >> >>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>To put the risk into perspective, 12,000 women are >> >>>>>> >> >>>>diagnosed >> >>>>>> >> >>>>with >> >>>>>> >> >>>>cervical >> >>>>>> >> >>>>cancer in the US alone each year. There are, on average, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>only >> >>>>>> >> >>>>267 >> >>>>>> >> >>>>injuries >> >>>>>> >> >>>>and fatalities from lightning strikes in the US each year, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>but >> >>>>>> >> >>>>I'd >> >>>>>> >> >>>>bet you >> >>>>>> >> >>>>take precautions when a storm is occurring. And by >> >>>>>> >> >>>>precautions >> >>>>>> >> >>>>I >> >>>>>> >> >>>>mean, you >> >>>>>> >> >>>>know better then to stand under a tree with a metal rod in >> >>>>>> >> >>>>your >> >>>>>> >> >>>>hand >> >>>>>> >> >>>>when >> >>>>>> >> >>>>it's lightning. >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>What I find interesting about the resistance to the vaccine >> >>>>>> >> >>is >> >>>>>> >> >>that >> >>>>>> >> >>we've heard since our childhood about the necessity to find a >> >>>>>> >> >>"cure" >> >>>>>> >> >>for cancer yet here we have a "prevention" for a cancer and >> >>>>>> >> >>there >> >>>>>> >> >>are >> >>>>>> >> >>those who do not want to take it. I'd rather go for a >> >>>>>> >> >>prevention >> >>>>>> >> >>than >> >>>>>> >> >>all the ugly possibilities a cure entails. >> >>>>>> >> >>BTW, cervical cancer takes about 10-20 years to develop. >> >>>>>> >> >>Cervical >> >>>>>> >> >>cancer from HPV infection does not show symptoms immediately. >> >>>>>> >> >>Janet US >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> >That's correct - I remember a friend of my elder daughter >> >>>>>> >> >having a >> >>>>>> >> >pap >> >>>>>> >> >smear that revealed cancerous cells were present. If she had >> >>>>>> >> >decided >> >>>>>> >> >she wouldn't bother with a pap smear it would not have ended >> >>>>>> >> >well. >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> >There was also the stupid autism scare over the >> >>>>>> >> >measles/whooping >> >>>>>> >> >cough/mumps vaccination. Much further down the road the >> >>>>>> >> >'doctor' >> >>>>>> >> >whose study showed a definite link was taken to court and >> >>>>>> >> >charged >> >>>>>> >> >and >> >>>>>> >> >then admitted there was no study, he had been paid a handsome >> >>>>>> >> >sum >> >>>>>> >> >by >> >>>>>> >> >the drug companies. Even though he was totally discredited, >> >>>>>> >> >people >> >>>>>> >> >still quote him today. Hope he rots in hell because he has >> >>>>>> >> >given >> >>>>>> >> >all >> >>>>>> >> >these quacky parents an excuse for not protecting their >> >>>>>> >> >children. >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> >I don't understand people like Julie, she has the opportunity >> >>>>>> >> >to >> >>>>>> >> >protect her daughter (who is currently too young to fully >> >>>>>> >> >understand >> >>>>>> >> >the ramafications of not having the Gardasil) but she >> >>>>>> >> >erroneously >> >>>>>> >> >comes up with disproved objections. If the daughter has a >> >>>>>> >> >positive >> >>>>>> >> >pap smear, hope she feels good then. That's if she has a >> >>>>>> >> >regular >> >>>>>> >> >pap >> >>>>>> >> >smear. >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> from what I have read, the major resistance to getting the >> >>>>>> >> vaccine >> >>>>>> >> is >> >>>>>> >> because it is recommended for 12 year old children. Parents >> >>>>>> >> simply >> >>>>>> >> can't handle thinking in terms of sexual consequences within >> >>>>>> >> their >> >>>>>> >> children's lives. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > Which is strange, because many 12 yr olds have reached puberty >> >>>>>> > and >> >>>>>> > assorted manifestations of their fertility; so you'd think most >> >>>>>> > parents >> >>>>>> > would have at least begun to talk to them about sex. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > Janet UK >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Sex ed begins in elementary school here. I can only speak for our >> >>>>>> school >> >>>>>> district. My comment was at her wording. Made it sound like she >> >>>>>> wanted >> >>>>>> to >> >>>>>> have sex with her kids. That's what I found to be sick. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to >> >>>>> your >> >>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension >> >>>> >> >>>>She did say it. >> >> >> >> Julie said: >But it is controversial. >> >> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of >> >> their children as sexual beings." >> >> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I >> >> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate >> >> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about >> >> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. >> >> Janet US >> > >> >Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's rather >> >sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also not a >> >compulsive liar. >> > >> >http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being >> > >> >" A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most >> >of >> >the time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can also >> >refer >> >to a very attractive man or woman. >> >Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was >> >walking? >> > >> >Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" >> >I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female >> >teacher >> >has had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like you used, I >> >will >> >call it out. >> > >> >Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up your >> >wording before you use it. >> >> LOL You just proved my point. Your hangups about sex reflected >> immediately to thoughts about sex and how dirty it is. It is your >> hangup and that of other parents that is keeping children from getting >> the vaccine. You couldn't even understand that the idea is about your >> children having sex (with other children sooner or later). Stick your >> fingers in your ears and sing la-la-la-la-la. LOL,LOL,LOL >> Janet US > > I'm afraid Julie is "beyond repair" and will never use common sense > regarding preventative measures to avoid future problems. > She may rue the day but we can't control her life or live it for her. > ==== I won't rue any day. |
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On 6/4/2016 1:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "barbie gee" > wrote in message > hcrg.pbz... >> >> >> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>> (snip) >>> >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/ (snip) >>> (snip) >>> >>> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up >>> your wording before you use it. >> >> "urban dictionary.com"??? >> >> Just stop. LOL. > > It isn't funny. Yes, this is so beyond funny!!! Bove again resorts to idiotic websites like "urban dictionary" to reference something bove believes is in context - and it isn't - that it's absolutely hilarious! Wonders never cease. Sky ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
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On 6/4/2016 1:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 6/3/2016 6:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> I got all sorts of vaccines as a child. No ill effects. I do know I >>>> couldn't be enrolled in school (I went to a lot of them!) without Mom >>>> providing my shot records. I'm sure that general rule (if not law) >>>> goes back to before I was born. >>> >>> Well, that's you. I became so ill after a flu shot, I've never had >>> another. My husband became ill after one too. And my friend had issues >>> where her arm swelled so badly that she had to go to the hospital. >> >> I wasn't talking about flu shots. I was talking about basic >> vaccinations required by most school systems. They hadn't developed >> flu vaccines when you and I were in school. I got the flu after >> getting a flu shot... there is no single strain of the flu so I don't >> bother anymore. > > They certainly had! I was a kid when I got one! Seriously, who's the "liar" now, eh?? It's truly very doubtful bove received any "flu" vaccine as a minor in the 1970s and earlier. But then, bove has been proven to "lie" many times; after all, bove cannot keep all her "stories" straight without backtracking, correcting (cough, cough), "remembering" or "not remembering". Sky ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
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On 2016-06-04 3:23 PM, Sky wrote:
> On 6/4/2016 1:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 6/3/2016 6:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> I got all sorts of vaccines as a child. No ill effects. I do know I >>>>> couldn't be enrolled in school (I went to a lot of them!) without Mom >>>>> providing my shot records. I'm sure that general rule (if not law) >>>>> goes back to before I was born. >>>> >>>> Well, that's you. I became so ill after a flu shot, I've never had >>>> another. My husband became ill after one too. And my friend had issues >>>> where her arm swelled so badly that she had to go to the hospital. >>> >>> I wasn't talking about flu shots. I was talking about basic >>> vaccinations required by most school systems. They hadn't developed >>> flu vaccines when you and I were in school. I got the flu after >>> getting a flu shot... there is no single strain of the flu so I don't >>> bother anymore. >> >> They certainly had! I was a kid when I got one! > > Seriously, who's the "liar" now, eh?? It's truly very doubtful bove > received any "flu" vaccine as a minor in the 1970s and earlier. But > then, bove has been proven to "lie" many times; after all, bove cannot > keep all her "stories" straight without backtracking, correcting (cough, > cough), "remembering" or "not remembering". > They didn't start giving flu shots to kids until the 1990s. |
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On 6/4/2016 1:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> (snip) > > That is not what I was talking about. In my eyes, children would be > somewhere around 10 and under. Then you have tweens and teens. Yes, > minors do have sex. Sometimes it is because they are sexually abused. > Sometimes some would say it is of their own choosing but... Since they > are minors, some, and in some cases, the law would say otherwise. > > Sex ed in the schools here now is not like that at all. Everything is > covered. > > Being sexually aware is not the same thing as looking at someone as a > sexual being. If you are looking at a minor like that, I still say you > are a sicko. Good heavens -- bove should quit the 'four monkeys' stance (see, hear, say, think nothing) when it comes to children and sexuality. All humans are sexual critters, regardless of age (infants and very young toddlers excepted). When a child becomes 'self aware' about the age of two+ or three - they become very aware of all their body parts and physical feelings! Self-exploration is as natural as is breathing. Bove definitely lives in the 'bubble' of the very limited 'universe of bothell', seems to be totally clueless about 'real life,' and it's more than apparent bove chooses to be ignorant by choice! Just keep that head buried in the ground, bove! None of what I've stated in this post has anything to do with sex-education at home or at school. It's about natural "human sexuality" and how each person is a 'sexual being' when they become 'self aware.' Sky ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
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On 2016-06-04 3:06 PM, Sky wrote:
>>>> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up >>>> your wording before you use it. >>> >>> "urban dictionary.com"??? >>> >>> Just stop. LOL. >> >> It isn't funny. > > Yes, this is so beyond funny!!! Bove again resorts to idiotic websites > like "urban dictionary" to reference something bove believes is in > context - and it isn't - that it's absolutely hilarious! Wonders never > cease. > I Googled "sexual being" out of curiosity and saw that the urban dictionary was at the top of the list. Bove is not terribly bright, so I would not expect her to understand that the site is more about slang. Nor would I expect her to look at the next couple sites that dealt with the concept of a sexual being. She has an amazing capacity for pursuing willful ignorance. |
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On 6/4/2016 4:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-06-04 3:06 PM, Sky wrote: > >>>>> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up >>>>> your wording before you use it. >>>> >>>> "urban dictionary.com"??? >>>> >>>> Just stop. LOL. >>> >>> It isn't funny. >> >> Yes, this is so beyond funny!!! Bove again resorts to idiotic websites >> like "urban dictionary" to reference something bove believes is in >> context - and it isn't - that it's absolutely hilarious! Wonders never >> cease. >> > > I Googled "sexual being" out of curiosity and saw that the urban > dictionary was at the top of the list. Bove is not terribly bright, so I > would not expect her to understand that the site is more about slang. > Nor would I expect her to look at the next couple sites that dealt with > the concept of a sexual being. She has an amazing capacity for pursuing > willful ignorance. "Willful ignorance" is a very precise and accurate description how bove exhibits her exorbitant behaviors (posts) when it comes to her seeming lack of education and due diligence to research/homework. As is well known, bove has an exceedingly good record of 'requesting' suggestions only to shoot every one down for irrational excuses and irrelevant reasons. Sky ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
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On 6/4/2016 7:43 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says... > >> Talking about and discussing how to raise them are two different > things. > > Not to people who know what "discuss" means. > > Janet UK > She's either completely obtuse (my vote) or picking at nits. Her grasp of the English language and reading for comprehension is questionable. Discussing raising children - whoda thunk it?! LOL I know for a fact my mother discussed my brothers and me with her mother and her sisters. She likely also talked about us with her friends who had children. It's a common phenomenon. People who have children talk to other people who have or have had children. Surprise! Jill |
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: > > "barbie gee" > wrote in message > hcrg.pbz... >> >> >> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>> >>> "Janet B" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:10:56 -0600, Janet B > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:40:14 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>>>> .. . >>>>>>> In article >, >>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> .. . >>>>>>>> > In article >, >>>>>>>> > says... >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:45:22 -0300, wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:30:07 -0600, Janet B >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >wrote: >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:13:05 -0500, jinx the minx >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>snip >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>To put the risk into perspective, 12,000 women are diagnosed >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>>>with >>>>>>>> >> >>>>cervical >>>>>>>> >> >>>>cancer in the US alone each year. There are, on average, >> >>>>>>>> >>>>only 267 >>>>>>>> >> >>>>injuries >>>>>>>> >> >>>>and fatalities from lightning strikes in the US each year, >> >>>>>>>> >>>>but I'd >>>>>>>> >> >>>>bet you >>>>>>>> >> >>>>take precautions when a storm is occurring. And by >> >>>>>>>> >>>>precautions I >>>>>>>> >> >>>>mean, you >>>>>>>> >> >>>>know better then to stand under a tree with a metal rod in >> >>>>>>>> >>>>your >>>>>>>> >> >>>>hand >>>>>>>> >> >>>>when >>>>>>>> >> >>>>it's lightning. >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>What I find interesting about the resistance to the vaccine is >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>that >>>>>>>> >> >>we've heard since our childhood about the necessity to find a >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>"cure" >>>>>>>> >> >>for cancer yet here we have a "prevention" for a cancer and >> >>>>>>>> >>there >>>>>>>> >> >>are >>>>>>>> >> >>those who do not want to take it. I'd rather go for a >> >>>>>>>> >>prevention >>>>>>>> >> >>than >>>>>>>> >> >>all the ugly possibilities a cure entails. >>>>>>>> >> >>BTW, cervical cancer takes about 10-20 years to develop. >> >>>>>>>> >>Cervical >>>>>>>> >> >>cancer from HPV infection does not show symptoms immediately. >>>>>>>> >> >>Janet US >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >That's correct - I remember a friend of my elder daughter having >>>>>>>> >> >a >>>>>>>> >> >pap >>>>>>>> >> >smear that revealed cancerous cells were present. If she had >> >>>>>>>> >decided >>>>>>>> >> >she wouldn't bother with a pap smear it would not have ended >> >>>>>>>> >well. >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >There was also the stupid autism scare over the measles/whooping >>>>>>>> >> >cough/mumps vaccination. Much further down the road the >> >>>>>>>> >'doctor' >>>>>>>> >> >whose study showed a definite link was taken to court and >> >>>>>>>> >charged and >>>>>>>> >> >then admitted there was no study, he had been paid a handsome >> >>>>>>>> >sum by >>>>>>>> >> >the drug companies. Even though he was totally discredited, >> >>>>>>>> >people >>>>>>>> >> >still quote him today. Hope he rots in hell because he has >> >>>>>>>> >given all >>>>>>>> >> >these quacky parents an excuse for not protecting their >> >>>>>>>> >children. >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >I don't understand people like Julie, she has the opportunity to >>>>>>>> >> >protect her daughter (who is currently too young to fully >> >>>>>>>> >understand >>>>>>>> >> >the ramafications of not having the Gardasil) but she >> >>>>>>>> >erroneously >>>>>>>> >> >comes up with disproved objections. If the daughter has a >> >>>>>>>> >positive >>>>>>>> >> >pap smear, hope she feels good then. That's if she has a >> >>>>>>>> >regular pap >>>>>>>> >> >smear. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> from what I have read, the major resistance to getting the >> >>>>>>>> vaccine is >>>>>>>> >> because it is recommended for 12 year old children. Parents >> >>>>>>>> simply >>>>>>>> >> can't handle thinking in terms of sexual consequences within >> >>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> >> children's lives. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Which is strange, because many 12 yr olds have reached puberty > >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> > assorted manifestations of their fertility; so you'd think most > >>>>>>>> parents >>>>>>>> > would have at least begun to talk to them about sex. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Janet UK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sex ed begins in elementary school here. I can only speak for our >>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>> district. My comment was at her wording. Made it sound like she >>>>>>>> wanted to >>>>>>>> have sex with her kids. That's what I found to be sick. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> She said no such thing; that was your own sick fantasy due to your >>>>>>> hopelessly poor reading comprehension >>>>>> >>>>>> She did say it. >>>> >>>> Julie said: >But it is controversial. >>>> Janet B said:"Initially, yes. Mostly parents reaction to thinking of >>>> their children as sexual beings." >>>> If that is what you interpret as wanting to have sex with my kids, I >>>> would say that you need to add counseling about your inappropriate >>>> thoughts about sex as well as the counseling you need to receive about >>>> the fantasies you create and your compulsive lying. >>>> Janet US >>> >>> Yes. If you think of children as sexual beings, I do think that's rather >>> sick. I am not the one with inappropriate thoughts. I am also not a >>> compulsive liar. >>> >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...sexual%20being >>> >>> " A person who has a very sexual nature or is of sexual character most of >>> the time. Usually are dirty minded and have a high sex drive. Can also >>> refer to a very attractive man or woman. >>> Woah.. that woman is one sexual being.. did you see the way she was >>> walking? >>> >>> Astrid is one sexual being.. bloody awesome in bed!" >>> I just happen to live in a state where more than one adult female teacher >>> has had sex with a minor child. So when I hear wording like you used, I >>> will call it out. >>> >>> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up your >>> wording before you use it. >> >> "urban dictionary.com"??? >> >> Just stop. LOL. > > It isn't funny. > Yes. Yes, it is hysterically funny. That you would use urbandictionary.com as a source for your "wording" problem. urbandictionary is a listing of slang, garbage language, mostly used by kids, most of it wrong, scatalogical or sexual. It is NOT any sort of source that any ADULT should be considering, for anything other than figuring out what some street youth is saying. 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On 6/4/2016 9:28 PM, barbie gee wrote:
> > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: > >> >> It isn't funny. > > Yes. Yes, it is hysterically funny. > That you would use urbandictionary.com as a source for your "wording" > problem. > > urbandictionary is a listing of slang, garbage language, mostly used by > kids, most of it wrong, scatalogical or sexual. It is NOT any sort of > source that any ADULT should be considering, for anything other than > figuring out what some street youth is saying. > If that's where she gets her information it's pretty darned funny. I thought she was a "writer". An adult writer should be able to interpret a phrase such as "sexual awareness" without attributing a dirty meaning to it. She makes it sound like she didn't realize she had a vagina until she got married. > We are adults here, and clearly everyone here except you, understands > what the term/phrase "sexual being" means, as it pertains to humans and > human development. > Humans including children?! How dare you! LOL Heaven forbid they should actually grow up and become interested in sex. What a strange notion. Jill |
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On 6/4/2016 4:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-06-04 3:06 PM, Sky wrote: > >>>>> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up >>>>> your wording before you use it. >>>> >>>> "urban dictionary.com"??? >>>> >>>> Just stop. LOL. >>> >>> It isn't funny. >> >> Yes, this is so beyond funny!!! Bove again resorts to idiotic websites >> like "urban dictionary" to reference something bove believes is in >> context - and it isn't - that it's absolutely hilarious! Wonders never >> cease. >> > > I Googled "sexual being" out of curiosity and saw that the urban > dictionary was at the top of the list. Bove is not terribly bright, so I > would not expect her to understand that the site is more about slang. > Nor would I expect her to look at the next couple sites that dealt with > the concept of a sexual being. She has an amazing capacity for pursuing > willful ignorance. More than likely bove confuses "sexual being" with 'being sexual' !! Definitely two different definitions. Sky ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 2016-06-04 3:23 PM, Sky wrote: >> On 6/4/2016 1:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 6/3/2016 6:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> I got all sorts of vaccines as a child. No ill effects. I do know I >>>>>> couldn't be enrolled in school (I went to a lot of them!) without Mom >>>>>> providing my shot records. I'm sure that general rule (if not law) >>>>>> goes back to before I was born. >>>>> >>>>> Well, that's you. I became so ill after a flu shot, I've never had >>>>> another. My husband became ill after one too. And my friend had issues >>>>> where her arm swelled so badly that she had to go to the hospital. >>>> >>>> I wasn't talking about flu shots. I was talking about basic >>>> vaccinations required by most school systems. They hadn't developed >>>> flu vaccines when you and I were in school. I got the flu after >>>> getting a flu shot... there is no single strain of the flu so I don't >>>> bother anymore. >>> >>> They certainly had! I was a kid when I got one! >> >> Seriously, who's the "liar" now, eh?? It's truly very doubtful bove >> received any "flu" vaccine as a minor in the 1970s and earlier. But >> then, bove has been proven to "lie" many times; after all, bove cannot >> keep all her "stories" straight without backtracking, correcting (cough, >> cough), "remembering" or "not remembering". >> > > They didn't start giving flu shots to kids until the 1990s. This says vaccines were given earlier than that. http://www.emedicinehealth.com/flu_vaccine/page2_em.htm So does this. 1945. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_vaccines |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 2016-06-04 3:06 PM, Sky wrote: > >>>>> Maybe that's not what you meant. But then maybe you should look up >>>>> your wording before you use it. >>>> >>>> "urban dictionary.com"??? >>>> >>>> Just stop. LOL. >>> >>> It isn't funny. >> >> Yes, this is so beyond funny!!! Bove again resorts to idiotic websites >> like "urban dictionary" to reference something bove believes is in >> context - and it isn't - that it's absolutely hilarious! Wonders never >> cease. >> > > I Googled "sexual being" out of curiosity and saw that the urban > dictionary was at the top of the list. Bove is not terribly bright, so I > would not expect her to understand that the site is more about slang. Nor > would I expect her to look at the next couple sites that dealt with the > concept of a sexual being. She has an amazing capacity for pursuing > willful ignorance. I full well know what it's about. And that term is widely used. |
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"Janet" > wrote in message .. . > In article >, says... > >> Talking about and discussing how to raise them are two different > things. > > Not to people who know what "discuss" means. Read what I wrote again. Talking about would be something like, "Jimmy sure does love that new video game!" Discussing how to raise would be like, "Mom? I'm concerned that Jimmy is playing that video game to the exclusion of everything else. What do you suggest I do?" See the difference? |
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On 6/4/2016 10:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > Read what I wrote again. Talking about would be something like, "Jimmy > sure does love that new video game!" > > Discussing how to raise would be like, "Mom? I'm concerned that Jimmy is > playing that video game to the exclusion of everything else. What do you > suggest I do?" > > See the difference? Teach Jimmy about masturbation and he won't spends nearly as much time on the video game. Problem solved. |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 6/4/2016 9:28 PM, barbie gee wrote: >> >> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>> >>> It isn't funny. >> >> Yes. Yes, it is hysterically funny. >> That you would use urbandictionary.com as a source for your "wording" >> problem. >> >> urbandictionary is a listing of slang, garbage language, mostly used by >> kids, most of it wrong, scatalogical or sexual. It is NOT any sort of >> source that any ADULT should be considering, for anything other than >> figuring out what some street youth is saying. >> > If that's where she gets her information it's pretty darned funny. I > thought she was a "writer". An adult writer should be able to interpret a > phrase such as "sexual awareness" without attributing a dirty meaning to > it. > > She makes it sound like she didn't realize she had a vagina until she got > married. > >> We are adults here, and clearly everyone here except you, understands >> what the term/phrase "sexual being" means, as it pertains to humans and >> human development. >> > Humans including children?! How dare you! LOL Heaven forbid they should > actually grow up and become interested in sex. What a strange notion. Growing up and being interested in sex is one thing. She implied that the shots were controversial because people didn't want to think about their children having sex. Actually that's not quite what she said and it still reads to me as though they were contemplating having sex with them. Children should not be having sex. If they are, then chances are, they are being abused. Had she used the term "offspring", then it would have been acceptable.That doesn't imply an age. The word "children" does imply not only minors but those who are younger than teens, unless it is backed up by another word such as "adult children". My mom tends to refer to me, my husband, my brother and his wife as "the kids" when she is talking to the family. And every time she does this, I look around for rug rats only to realize that she means one of us. She does this only with family. To others, she would say, "son", "daughter in law", etc. She also could have phrased it as I have seen several other places on the internet that some parents were afraid that if they gave the shots to their kids, their kids would run out and have sex. I don't know how many parents, if any, actually do think like that. None that I know of. I also did some more research on this vaccine. I won't bother to put links because someone will just shoot them down. But it said that low income people were more likely to get the shot than more educated or wealthy people. The majority of those who got it were Latinos, followed by blacks. This leads me to believe that perhaps it is or was being pushed by free clinics. I also read that less educated mothers were being guilt tripped and being told that they needed to do this for the health of their daughters. They did not question things. They just accepted it. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 6/4/2016 10:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> > > >> >> Read what I wrote again. Talking about would be something like, "Jimmy >> sure does love that new video game!" >> >> Discussing how to raise would be like, "Mom? I'm concerned that Jimmy is >> playing that video game to the exclusion of everything else. What do you >> suggest I do?" >> >> See the difference? > > Teach Jimmy about masturbation and he won't spends nearly as much time on > the video game. Problem solved. Do that and go to jail. |
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 04:27:19 -0500, MaryL >
wrote: >On 5/31/2016 6:55 AM, wrote: >> On Tue, 31 May 2016 11:46:10 +0100, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >>>> ==== >>> >>> Oh dear. That is rather frightening. >> >> Yes, we see another side of the question as we are old enough to >> remember when things like polio, measles, chickenpox etc would sweep >> through a school. My elder daughter lost her hearing in her right ear >> due the measles. >> > >Yes, "childhood diseases" that some people consider "minor" can have >dreadful consequences. The child who would have been my mother's oldest >sister died of complications from measles. She was both blind and deaf >before she died. In her case, I am going back to the days before >vaccine was available, and her parents suffered indescribable grief. > >My father and his brother both had polio when they were children. My >parents endured great fear for us, especially in the summer. I can >remember events in the summer that we were not permitted to attend >because they wanted us to avoid crowds in the summer. They stood in >line with us on the very first day the Salk vaccine was available at our >local clinic. My parents had a friend who was highly critical of them >and said he "would not permit his children to stand in line like that." >Tragically, his son developed polio and died about two weeks later. My >father tried to convince him that the timing was so short that it >probably would have been too late for his son, but this many suffered >great guilt for the rest of his life. Incidentally, we also had the >Sabin vaccine when it became available. > >MaryL I also remember trying to avoid being in contact with German Measles during the first few months of pregnancy. I didn't have Julies attitude, as vaccines became available I appreciated every one of them. She is still hanging on to the concept of 'bad vaccine' that the crooked doctor lectured about re. autism and the mmr vaccine. He has been so disproved and removed as a doctor, I wonder if he ever acknowledges the damage he has caused? |
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7 Foods to Boost Your Good Gut Bacteria (That Aren?t Yogurt)
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> > "Janet" > wrote in message > .. . > > In article >, says... > > > >> Talking about and discussing how to raise them are two different > > things. > > > > Not to people who know what "discuss" means. > > Read what I wrote again. Talking about would be something like, "Jimmy sure > does love that new video game!" > > Discussing how to raise would be like, "Mom? I'm concerned that Jimmy is > playing that video game to the exclusion of everything else. What do you > suggest I do?" > > See the difference? You're a moron, Julie. Merriam Webster : "Simple Definition of discuss; to talk about (something) with another person or group" Janet UK |
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7 Foods to Boost Your Good Gut Bacteria (That Aren?t Yogurt)
"Janet" > wrote in message .. . > In article >, says... >> >> "Janet" > wrote in message >> .. . >> > In article >, says... >> > >> >> Talking about and discussing how to raise them are two different >> > things. >> > >> > Not to people who know what "discuss" means. >> >> Read what I wrote again. Talking about would be something like, "Jimmy >> sure >> does love that new video game!" >> >> Discussing how to raise would be like, "Mom? I'm concerned that Jimmy is >> playing that video game to the exclusion of everything else. What do you >> suggest I do?" >> >> See the difference? > > You're a moron, Julie. > > Merriam Webster : > > > "Simple Definition of discuss; > > to talk about (something) with another person or group" > > Janet UK You're the idiot. Read the rest of the sentence. |
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7 Foods to Boost Your Good Gut Bacteria (That Aren?t Yogurt)
On 6/5/2016 5:47 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 04:27:19 -0500, MaryL > > wrote: > >> On 5/31/2016 6:55 AM, wrote: >>> On Tue, 31 May 2016 11:46:10 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> ==== >>>> >>>> Oh dear. That is rather frightening. >>> >>> Yes, we see another side of the question as we are old enough to >>> remember when things like polio, measles, chickenpox etc would sweep >>> through a school. My elder daughter lost her hearing in her right ear >>> due the measles. >>> >> >> Yes, "childhood diseases" that some people consider "minor" can have >> dreadful consequences. The child who would have been my mother's oldest >> sister died of complications from measles. She was both blind and deaf >> before she died. In her case, I am going back to the days before >> vaccine was available, and her parents suffered indescribable grief. >> >> My father and his brother both had polio when they were children. My >> parents endured great fear for us, especially in the summer. I can >> remember events in the summer that we were not permitted to attend >> because they wanted us to avoid crowds in the summer. They stood in >> line with us on the very first day the Salk vaccine was available at our >> local clinic. My parents had a friend who was highly critical of them >> and said he "would not permit his children to stand in line like that." >> Tragically, his son developed polio and died about two weeks later. My >> father tried to convince him that the timing was so short that it >> probably would have been too late for his son, but this many suffered >> great guilt for the rest of his life. Incidentally, we also had the >> Sabin vaccine when it became available. >> >> MaryL > > I also remember trying to avoid being in contact with German Measles > during the first few months of pregnancy. > > I didn't have Julies attitude, as vaccines became available I > appreciated every one of them. She is still hanging on to the concept > of 'bad vaccine' that the crooked doctor lectured about re. autism and > the mmr vaccine. He has been so disproved and removed as a doctor, I > wonder if he ever acknowledges the damage he has caused? > Andrew Wakefield claimed that certain vaccinations have caused autism in huge numbers of children. He has been discredited, and I think he lost his license of practice medicine in the U.K., but he has caused a great deal of damage. That single discredited paper led to an increase in numbers of people who declined vaccinations in the U.K., U.S. and Ireland. That was followed with a spike in cases of measles and mumps, some of which had serious complications and a number of deaths. MaryL |
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 06:50:52 -0500, MaryL >
wrote: >On 6/5/2016 5:47 AM, wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 04:27:19 -0500, MaryL > >> wrote: >> >>> On 5/31/2016 6:55 AM, wrote: >>>> On Tue, 31 May 2016 11:46:10 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> ==== >>>>> >>>>> Oh dear. That is rather frightening. >>>> >>>> Yes, we see another side of the question as we are old enough to >>>> remember when things like polio, measles, chickenpox etc would sweep >>>> through a school. My elder daughter lost her hearing in her right ear >>>> due the measles. >>>> >>> >>> Yes, "childhood diseases" that some people consider "minor" can have >>> dreadful consequences. The child who would have been my mother's oldest >>> sister died of complications from measles. She was both blind and deaf >>> before she died. In her case, I am going back to the days before >>> vaccine was available, and her parents suffered indescribable grief. >>> >>> My father and his brother both had polio when they were children. My >>> parents endured great fear for us, especially in the summer. I can >>> remember events in the summer that we were not permitted to attend >>> because they wanted us to avoid crowds in the summer. They stood in >>> line with us on the very first day the Salk vaccine was available at our >>> local clinic. My parents had a friend who was highly critical of them >>> and said he "would not permit his children to stand in line like that." >>> Tragically, his son developed polio and died about two weeks later. My >>> father tried to convince him that the timing was so short that it >>> probably would have been too late for his son, but this many suffered >>> great guilt for the rest of his life. Incidentally, we also had the >>> Sabin vaccine when it became available. >>> >>> MaryL >> >> I also remember trying to avoid being in contact with German Measles >> during the first few months of pregnancy. >> >> I didn't have Julies attitude, as vaccines became available I >> appreciated every one of them. She is still hanging on to the concept >> of 'bad vaccine' that the crooked doctor lectured about re. autism and >> the mmr vaccine. He has been so disproved and removed as a doctor, I >> wonder if he ever acknowledges the damage he has caused? >> > >Andrew Wakefield claimed that certain vaccinations have caused autism in >huge numbers of children. He has been discredited, and I think he lost >his license of practice medicine in the U.K., but he has caused a great >deal of damage. That single discredited paper led to an increase in >numbers of people who declined vaccinations in the U.K., U.S. and >Ireland. That was followed with a spike in cases of measles and mumps, >some of which had serious complications and a number of deaths. > >MaryL > He's the one I was thinking of but the damage he did is great - my great grandson recently had a mild dose of measles due to an unvaccinated friend having measles. My granddaughter said that his mother 'knows' how dangerous vaccinations can be, that's why her three are unvaccinated. If it wasn't sad for their children it would be amusing that parents with no medical training are so wise about vaccination having read all sorts of scurrilous internet articles. |
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MaryL wrote:
> > My father and his brother both had polio when they were children. My > parents endured great fear for us, especially in the summer. I can > remember events in the summer that we were not permitted to attend > because they wanted us to avoid crowds in the summer. They stood in > line with us on the very first day the Salk vaccine was available at our > local clinic. My parents had a friend who was highly critical of them > and said he "would not permit his children to stand in line like that." > Tragically, his son developed polio and died about two weeks later. My > father tried to convince him that the timing was so short that it > probably would have been too late for his son, but this many suffered > great guilt for the rest of his life. Incidentally, we also had the > Sabin vaccine when it became available. You made a good argument there, MaryL I googled and read this page which is interesting: http://www.thecrimson.com/article/19...-january-1955/ Julie, you might want to read this. Even though there were a few failures with the vaccines, Millions of others benefited from them. And for everyone here. I do have one question and thought. So they say that every adult already has the virus so the vaccine won't help. So here the two parents that already have it makes a baby. This baby is probably already born with the virus so getting a vaccine later on in childhood probably won't make any difference. We all know by now that mothers with some virus (HIV for example) can easily pass that virus on to their newborn. |
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7 Foods to Boost Your Good Gut Bacteria (That Aren?t Yogurt)
On 2016-06-05 7:10 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says... >> >> "Janet" > wrote in message >> .. . >>> In article >, says... >>> >>>> Talking about and discussing how to raise them are two different >>> things. >>> >>> Not to people who know what "discuss" means. >> >> Read what I wrote again. Talking about would be something like, "Jimmy sure >> does love that new video game!" >> >> Discussing how to raise would be like, "Mom? I'm concerned that Jimmy is >> playing that video game to the exclusion of everything else. What do you >> suggest I do?" >> >> See the difference? > > You're a moron, Julie. > > Merriam Webster : > > > "Simple Definition of discuss; > > to talk about (something) with another person or group" > > mo·ron ˈmôrˌän/ nouninformal noun: moron; plural noun: morons a stupid person. synonyms: fool, idiot, ass, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, imbecile, cretin, dullard, simpleton, clod; More informalnitwit, halfwit, dope, ninny, nincompoop, chump, dimwit, dingbat, dipstick, goober, coot, goon, dumbo, dummy, ditz, dumdum, fathead, numbskull, numbnuts, dunderhead, thickhead, airhead, butthead, flake, lamer, lamebrain, zombie, nerd, peabrain, birdbrain, scissorbill, jughead, mouth-breather, jerk, donkey, twit, goat, dork, twerp, hoser, schmuck, bozo, boob, turkey, schlep, chowderhead, dumbhead, goofball, goof, goofus, galoot, lummox, knuckle-dragger, klutz, putz, schlemiel, sap, meatball, dumb cluck, mook "what moron left ice cream on the stove?" antonyms: genius Origin early 20th century (as a medical term denoting an adult with a mental age of about 812): from Greek mōron, neuter of mōros "foolish. Translate moron to Use over time for: moron They had so many words in there that describe Julie they didn't even need to ad her name. |
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