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"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >,
> says...
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>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >,

>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >
>> >> > Noise machines make constant noise that masks all those unexpected
>> > noises,
>> >> > like cars, trains, snoring, etc. that wake a person up, that's the
>> >> > purpose
>> >> > of them. We already have plenty of pollution machines going, which
>> >> > noise
>> >> > machines counteract.
>> >>
>> >> The only noise I am subjected to is snoring so I wear nice soft
>> >> earplugs
>> >> and
>> >> hear nothing
>> >
>> > But what if the house is on fire or you're being burglarized or your
>> > pet's fighting with something? Would you wake up in time?

>>
>> No need! D and the dog would soon wake me up
>>
>> Poppy is very protective of us and her home. Woe betide anyone trying to
>> get in without one of us there) She hasn't half come on in the past
>> year

>
> Two days ago a kangaroo (probably) was flapping its tail (probably)
> against our garbage bin. Only the cat on my legs and me woke up. If I
> had had earplugs and the kangaroo had been an ice addict...


Ahhh but your cat woke you!! Our pets take good care of us

I'll stick with my ear plugs and try to get a decent night's sleep ... which
is hard enough without hearing stuff I don't need



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On 6/10/2016 2:00 AM, Cheri wrote:
> Noise machines make constant noise that masks all those unexpected
> noises, like cars, trains, snoring, etc. that wake a person up, that's
> the purpose of them. We already have plenty of pollution machines going,
> which noise machines counteract.
>
> Cheri


Yep. On any given day around 7AM there are workers on the golf course
behind my house. If they're not mowing they're driving big machines to
blow leaves off the green and the fairway. I don't hear 'em, though.

Jill
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On 6/9/2016 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> Basically the same as me, Jill. I sleep light at night...I'm still on
> "taking care of ferret" schedule. I need a little bit of background
> noise on. TV with volume turned very low, always a fan on and a light.
>
> When electricity goes off at night, I wake right up and I can't go
> back to sleep either.


Took you out of the bozo bin. I tried sleeping with the TV on but
the flickering light bothers me. There *is* a night light in the
adjoining master bath so I can see if I need to get up during the night.
And Buffy can find her litterbox, which is in the part of the bathroom
with the tub & toilet (It's a rather large room, bit of a waste of
space, actually.)

Jill
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On 6/9/2016 2:01 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>>
>> I sleep light at night...I'm still on
>> "taking care of ferret" schedule. I need a little bit of background
>> noise on. TV with volume turned very low, always a fan on and a light.
>> When electricity goes off at night, I wake right up and I can't go
>> back to sleep either.

>
> I sleep with the TV on all night. The Central A/C is silent. Cats
> purring make the best sleep machines. You need another ferret... do
> ferrets purr? Perhaps you should get a couple of kittens instead,
> they need no care at night... they need little care during the day
> also. Cats entertain themselves, last night Barny entertained himself
> by shredding my desk calender to confetti (not the first time), will
> be heading to the 99¢ store for a new one in a bit.
>


I don't think ferrets purr. I have no idea what Buffy does at night.
Sometimes she sleeps with me but not always. I do know the cat toys in
the living room are often in different spots the next morning.

Two cats aren't really necessary or even desireable for some people.
Sure, they'll keep each other entertained if they *like* each other.
That isn't always the case, not even with litter-mates.

Buffy came from a household where another cat constantly bullied and
beat up on her. She spent most of her time hiding. She's been an
only-cat for a year now. It didn't take long for her to relax and come
out of her shell. She's snoozing in a puddle of sunshine at the moment.

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jmcquown wrote:
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> On 6/9/2016 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Basically the same as me, Jill. I sleep light at night...I'm still on
> > "taking care of ferret" schedule. I need a little bit of background
> > noise on. TV with volume turned very low, always a fan on and a light.
> >
> > When electricity goes off at night, I wake right up and I can't go
> > back to sleep either.

>
> Took you out of the bozo bin.


Pardons are cool! I *was* being obnoxious that day though.
No doubt sw got fed up with me. oh well.

> I tried sleeping with the TV on but
> the flickering light bothers me. There *is* a night light in the
> adjoining master bath so I can see if I need to get up during the night.


I don't have the flickering tv light problem but I know what you are
saying. I have my bedside lamp on all night so I don't have the
"flicker effect."

One thing that sometimes gets me though. Tv volume is on low but
commercials always sound louder. I read that they don't actually
change the volume but the frequency (or whatever) so they DO sound
louder.

Anyway, loss of electricity and total silence will wake me up in a
heartbeat and I can't sleep well after that either
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/9/2016 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Basically the same as me, Jill. I sleep light at night...I'm still on
>> "taking care of ferret" schedule. I need a little bit of background
>> noise on. TV with volume turned very low, always a fan on and a light.
>>
>> When electricity goes off at night, I wake right up and I can't go
>> back to sleep either.

>
> Took you out of the bozo bin. I tried sleeping with the TV on but
> the flickering light bothers me. There *is* a night light in the
> adjoining master bath so I can see if I need to get up during the night.
> And Buffy can find her litterbox, which is in the part of the bathroom
> with the tub & toilet (It's a rather large room, bit of a waste of
> space, actually.)
>
> Jill


large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
ball and floors with lights in them


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On 6/10/2016 11:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 6/9/2016 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Basically the same as me, Jill. I sleep light at night...I'm still on
>>> "taking care of ferret" schedule. I need a little bit of background
>>> noise on. TV with volume turned very low, always a fan on and a light.
>>>
>>> When electricity goes off at night, I wake right up and I can't go
>>> back to sleep either.

>>

>
>> I tried sleeping with the TV on but
>> the flickering light bothers me. There *is* a night light in the
>> adjoining master bath so I can see if I need to get up during the night.

>
> I don't have the flickering tv light problem but I know what you are
> saying. I have my bedside lamp on all night so I don't have the
> "flicker effect."
>

I couldn't sleep with a bedside light on all night long. I like the
room to be dark. There is a skylight above the sinks in the master
bath. Even with the shades tightly drawn the bedroom gets light when
the sun comes up. It took me a while to get used to that.

> One thing that sometimes gets me though. Tv volume is on low but
> commercials always sound louder. I read that they don't actually
> change the volume but the frequency (or whatever) so they DO sound
> louder.
>

Of course commercials are louder. Only slightly, but enough to where I
notice them. Years ago (1990's) I had a television (Magnavox? don't
remember) that had a setting to lower the sound level of commercials to
that of regular programming automatically. It worked... until the TV
conked out about 10 years later.

> Anyway, loss of electricity and total silence will wake me up in a
> heartbeat and I can't sleep well after that either
>

Same here. That's why the sound machine, which, BTW, can also run on
batteries. I run the fans because I need to sleep in a cool room. I am
absolutely unable to sleep if it is too hot and there is no stirring
air. The fans help with the white noise factor, too.

Jill
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jmcquown wrote:
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> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > You need another ferret... do ferrets purr?


> I don't think ferrets purr.


They don't purr, but neither do cats purr all night long.

Ferrets are mimes. They *do* make a few very faint sounds
occasionally. If one gets mad, it will hiss just like a snake. I heard
that a couple of times when one was annoying the other one but that's
so rare. Other times are basic communication. "I'm hurt" is one sound.
Mia once sprained her ankle tripping down the cage ramp. I saw her
laying at the bottom of the ramp and I gently picked her up and said,
"What are you doing still down here? What's wrong?" She responded with
a faint murmur. I noticed her favoring the ankle after that. Also
touching and/or nodding have several different meanings. With Mia, I
finally learned them all. With her, I really did become fluent in the
ferret language. LOL Listen to me here. What a wuss.

Anyway, I don't need another ferret or any pet right now to fill the
gap. I just want Mia back but she's gone and I'm slowly dealing with
it. I really would like to wait awhile before I take on another
lifetime responsibility. Any animal that I adopt will stay with me
until one of us dies.
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jmcquown wrote:
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> On 6/9/2016 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Basically the same as me, Jill. I sleep light at night...I'm still on
> > "taking care of ferret" schedule. I need a little bit of background
> > noise on. TV with volume turned very low, always a fan on and a light.
> >
> > When electricity goes off at night, I wake right up and I can't go
> > back to sleep either.

>
> Took you out of the bozo bin.


Pardons are cool! I *was* being obnoxious that day though.
No doubt sw got fed up with me. oh well.

> I tried sleeping with the TV on but
> the flickering light bothers me. There *is* a night light in the
> adjoining master bath so I can see if I need to get up during the night.


I don't have the flickering tv light problem but I know what you are
saying. I have my bedside lamp on all night so I don't have the
"flicker effect."

One thing that sometimes gets me though. Tv volume is on low but
commercials always sound louder. I read that they don't actually
change the volume but the frequency (or whatever) so they DO sound
louder.

Anyway, loss of electricity and total silence will wake me up in a
heartbeat and I can't sleep well after that either
======

They were supposed to do away with commercials being louder than the program,
but the haven't.

Cheri



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On 6/10/2016 11:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 6/9/2016 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Basically the same as me, Jill. I sleep light at night...I'm still on
>>> "taking care of ferret" schedule. I need a little bit of background
>>> noise on. TV with volume turned very low, always a fan on and a light.
>>>
>>> When electricity goes off at night, I wake right up and I can't go
>>> back to sleep either.

>>

>
>> I tried sleeping with the TV on but
>> the flickering light bothers me. There *is* a night light in the
>> adjoining master bath so I can see if I need to get up during the night.

>
> I don't have the flickering tv light problem but I know what you are
> saying. I have my bedside lamp on all night so I don't have the
> "flicker effect."
>

I couldn't sleep with a bedside light on all night long. I like the
room to be dark. There is a skylight above the sinks in the master
bath. Even with the shades tightly drawn the bedroom gets light when
the sun comes up. It took me a while to get used to that.

> One thing that sometimes gets me though. Tv volume is on low but
> commercials always sound louder. I read that they don't actually
> change the volume but the frequency (or whatever) so they DO sound
> louder.
>

Of course commercials are louder. Only slightly, but enough to where I
notice them. Years ago (1990's) I had a television (Magnavox? don't
remember) that had a setting to lower the sound level of commercials to
that of regular programming automatically. It worked... until the TV
conked out about 10 years later.

> Anyway, loss of electricity and total silence will wake me up in a
> heartbeat and I can't sleep well after that either
>

Same here. That's why the sound machine, which, BTW, can also run on
batteries. I run the fans because I need to sleep in a cool room. I am
absolutely unable to sleep if it is too hot and there is no stirring
air. The fans help with the white noise factor, too.

Jill


I put sun blocking lining over the windows themselves, behind the shutters, to
keep the light out of our bedroom.

Cheri


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On 6/10/2016 12:16 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> There *is* a night light in the
>> adjoining master bath so I can see if I need to get up during the night.
>> And Buffy can find her litterbox, which is in the part of the bathroom
>> with the tub & toilet (It's a rather large room, bit of a waste of
>> space, actually.)
>>
>> Jill

>
> large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
> ball and floors with lights in them
>
>

LOL! Granted, one wants room to be able to towel off without hitting
their elbows on the walls. And storage space for toiletries and towels.
But a palatial bathroom? Not interested. More to mop!

I love watching those shows on HGTV - mostly young couples, very little
money, must have four bathrooms. I do hope they enjoy cleaning
bathrooms. It's not my idea of a good time.

Jill
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> large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
> ball and floors with lights in them


I paint many houses for the rich and famous. I've seen many master
bathrooms that are larger than the "average" kitchen. Nice but more
than I would ever want even if I was one of them.
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On 6/10/2016 12:44 PM, Gary wrote:
> tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>> large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
>> ball and floors with lights in them

>
> I paint many houses for the rich and famous. I've seen many master
> bathrooms that are larger than the "average" kitchen. Nice but more
> than I would ever want even if I was one of them.
>

Rich, famous or Joe Schmoe with some money... I really have to wonder
just how much time they spend in the bathroom.

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> But a palatial bathroom? Not interested. More to mop!


I have the same sense of wonderment when I see someone buying a home
with a cathedral ceiling in the front room. I see it and feel I'm
being gyped outta another upstairs bedroom/bathroom, etc. They charge
more and the buyer gets less. But, ppl are crazy for 'em. Go figure.

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On 6/10/2016 10:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 6/9/2016 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Basically the same as me, Jill. I sleep light at night...I'm still on
>>> "taking care of ferret" schedule. I need a little bit of background
>>> noise on. TV with volume turned very low, always a fan on and a light.
>>>
>>> When electricity goes off at night, I wake right up and I can't go
>>> back to sleep either.

>>
>> Took you out of the bozo bin.

>
> Pardons are cool! I *was* being obnoxious that day though.
> No doubt sw got fed up with me. oh well.
>
>> I tried sleeping with the TV on but
>> the flickering light bothers me. There *is* a night light in the
>> adjoining master bath so I can see if I need to get up during the night.

>
> I don't have the flickering tv light problem but I know what you are
> saying. I have my bedside lamp on all night so I don't have the
> "flicker effect."
>
> One thing that sometimes gets me though. Tv volume is on low but
> commercials always sound louder. I read that they don't actually
> change the volume but the frequency (or whatever) so they DO sound
> louder.
>
> Anyway, loss of electricity and total silence will wake me up in a
> heartbeat and I can't sleep well after that either
>

I can sleep with the light either on or off. Likewise, I can sleep with
the TV on (in fact, I sometimes fall asleep when I am watching something
on the TV) or off. What I *really* need is a cool room and moving air.
I use the air conditioner about 10 months of the year (East Texas), and
I have ceiling fans in every room except the kitchen, dining room and
bathrooms. I use a fairly high speed on the fan in my bedroom, and I
use the fan year-round.

MaryL

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tert in seattle wrote:
>
> large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
> ball and floors with lights in them


I paint many houses for the rich and famous. I've seen many master
bathrooms that are larger than the "average" kitchen. Nice but more
than I would ever want even if I was one of them.
==========

I would seriously like to have the choice. ;-)

Cheri

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On 6/10/2016 11:42 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/10/2016 12:16 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>> large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
>> ball and floors with lights in them
>>
>>

> LOL! Granted, one wants room to be able to towel off without hitting
> their elbows on the walls. And storage space for toiletries and towels.
> But a palatial bathroom? Not interested. More to mop!
>
> I love watching those shows on HGTV - mostly young couples, very little
> money, must have four bathrooms. I do hope they enjoy cleaning
> bathrooms. It's not my idea of a good time.
>
> Jill


I like to watch some of those shows on HGTV, and I notice the same
thing--young couples who "absolutely can't live" without four large
bathrooms. I grew up in a family of five (three children). We had only
one very small bathroom, and we got along just fine. We did not have a
schedule, but somehow we all got clean and were ready for school on time.

MaryL


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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> Cats entertain themselves, last night Barny entertained himself
> by shredding my desk calender to confetti (not the first time), will
> be heading to the 99¢ store for a new one in a bit.


I have about 550 lps on a shelf stacked on end like books in a book
shelf. Mr.Kitty decided that was his scratching post. Even if I caught
him and yelled, he would run away but always came back to it while I
was gone. I'd often come home and see shreds on the carpet right under
my albums. I have some from the 1960's and some from the early 1980's
but most are from the 1970's.

I do have a few rare albums that would be worth some money but not
with the ends shredded. My collection now would be worth a bit for
someone that just wanted all the records/music but no collector want's
a shredded end of cover. oh well.
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On 10/06/2016 12:02 PM, MaryL wrote:
> On 6/10/2016 11:42 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/10/2016 12:16 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>
>>> large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
>>> ball and floors with lights in them
>>>
>>>

>> LOL! Granted, one wants room to be able to towel off without hitting
>> their elbows on the walls. And storage space for toiletries and towels.
>> But a palatial bathroom? Not interested. More to mop!
>>
>> I love watching those shows on HGTV - mostly young couples, very little
>> money, must have four bathrooms. I do hope they enjoy cleaning
>> bathrooms. It's not my idea of a good time.
>>
>> Jill

>
> I like to watch some of those shows on HGTV, and I notice the same
> thing--young couples who "absolutely can't live" without four large
> bathrooms. I grew up in a family of five (three children). We had only
> one very small bathroom, and we got along just fine. We did not have a
> schedule, but somehow we all got clean and were ready for school on time.
>
> MaryL
>
>

I live in a 5 bedroom, 2 storey house with only one bathroom, i.e., the
place where one takes a bath or a shower. When we bought the house,
being English, meant that only one bath in a house like that was not
unusual. These days, even "starter" homes have two.
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Julie Bove wrote:
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> Not sure if there are any talk stations left. I used to
> listen to Talk Net. Not sure that is on any more.


Talk Net is gone. No more Bruce Williams. There still is talk radio in
most areas though.
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On 6/10/2016 1:27 PM, graham wrote:
> On 10/06/2016 12:02 PM, MaryL wrote:
>> On 6/10/2016 11:42 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 6/10/2016 12:16 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>
>>>> large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
>>>> ball and floors with lights in them
>>>>
>>>>
>>> LOL! Granted, one wants room to be able to towel off without hitting
>>> their elbows on the walls. And storage space for toiletries and towels.
>>> But a palatial bathroom? Not interested. More to mop!
>>>
>>> I love watching those shows on HGTV - mostly young couples, very little
>>> money, must have four bathrooms. I do hope they enjoy cleaning
>>> bathrooms. It's not my idea of a good time.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> I like to watch some of those shows on HGTV, and I notice the same
>> thing--young couples who "absolutely can't live" without four large
>> bathrooms. I grew up in a family of five (three children). We had only
>> one very small bathroom, and we got along just fine. We did not have a
>> schedule, but somehow we all got clean and were ready for school on time.
>>
>> MaryL
>>
>>

> I live in a 5 bedroom, 2 storey house with only one bathroom, i.e., the
> place where one takes a bath or a shower. When we bought the house,
> being English, meant that only one bath in a house like that was not
> unusual. These days, even "starter" homes have two.
> Graham


The house I grew up in was also 2-story. It was built shortly after the
Civil War and did not have any bathrooms at all when my parents bought
it. That means we actually used an "outhouse" for a few weeks, but my
parents added a bathroom as soon as possible. I realize that that
situation would be very unusual today. The point I was trying to make
is the number of very young people who insist that they need four (or
even five) bathrooms, and then they talk as if it simply isn't possible
to live with less. Ironically, I live alone and I have 2.5 bathrooms.
Admittedly, I enjoy having those bathrooms, but I do consider it a
luxury because I remember growing up with one bathroom and we were very
happy. Our luxury in those days were our pets--a wonderful collie,
several Shetland ponies, and later a horse that was an Arabian-quarter
horse mix and gave us many happy hours.

MaryL

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>>
>> large bathrooms crack me up -- I always think they should have a disco
>> ball and floors with lights in them

>
> I paint many houses for the rich and famous. I've seen many master
> bathrooms that are larger than the "average" kitchen. Nice but more
> than I would ever want even if I was one of them.


I like to look at online listings. I've seen three bedroom houses with 5
full baths. Not just one but quite a few. I don't get it. And it seem that
half baths are a thing of the past. I happen to like them. I would be okay
with 1.5 baths. Husband would not. He doesn't like to see girly things in
the bathroom. But in terms of guests, unless they are spending the night,
they likely won't need a bath or shower so a tiny half bath seems fine.

My master bath is foolishly huge. Bigger than my nephew's old bedroom. And
it has a stupid jetted tub that is next to impossible to get in and out of.
You have to step across such a large span to do so. Can't even sit on the
edge because the edge is at three different levels, none of which are really
wide enough to sit on.

The tub can be used to take a shallow bath. But if you want enough water in
it to be able to run the jets, you won't get a hot bath. It will be only
slightly warm as the hot water tank isn't big enough to fill it and the hot
water will run out.

I would like to get rid of it but like the former play area, disposing of it
would be too costly. The play area was dangerous so I felt I had no choice.
Now this is just a stupid place for me to do hand wash.

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On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 3:24:00 PM UTC-4, MaryL wrote:

> The house I grew up in was also 2-story. It was built shortly after the
> Civil War and did not have any bathrooms at all when my parents bought
> it. That means we actually used an "outhouse" for a few weeks, but my
> parents added a bathroom as soon as possible.


There are places where it might be illegal today. I dimly recall
some sort of kerfuffle when the State of Michigan decided that
every full-time residence had to have a bathroom. The Amish were
not pleased. If memory serves, they added them, but didn't use
them.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>MaryL wrote:
>
>> The house I grew up in was also 2-story. It was built shortly after the
>> Civil War and did not have any bathrooms at all when my parents bought
>> it. That means we actually used an "outhouse" for a few weeks, but my
>> parents added a bathroom as soon as possible.

>
>There are places where it might be illegal today. I dimly recall
>some sort of kerfuffle when the State of Michigan decided that
>every full-time residence had to have a bathroom. The Amish were
>not pleased. If memory serves, they added them, but didn't use
>them.


Obvously there were no bathrooms because at the time of the Civil war
there was no indoor plumbing, people used hand pumped wells. The
Amish still use hand pumped wells. People used out houses, during
cold weather they used buckets, hopefully not the same ones used for
hauling well water.
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On 6/11/2016 8:10 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> MaryL wrote:
>>
>>> The house I grew up in was also 2-story. It was built shortly after the
>>> Civil War and did not have any bathrooms at all when my parents bought
>>> it. That means we actually used an "outhouse" for a few weeks, but my
>>> parents added a bathroom as soon as possible.

>>
>> There are places where it might be illegal today. I dimly recall
>> some sort of kerfuffle when the State of Michigan decided that
>> every full-time residence had to have a bathroom. The Amish were
>> not pleased. If memory serves, they added them, but didn't use
>> them.

>
> Obvously there were no bathrooms because at the time of the Civil war
> there was no indoor plumbing, people used hand pumped wells. The
> Amish still use hand pumped wells. People used out houses, during
> cold weather they used buckets, hopefully not the same ones used for
> hauling well water.
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chamber%2Bpot
>


Fortunately, we did not use buckets (or "chamber pots"). We only had to
use the outhouse for a few weeks. The house did have indoor plumbing by
the time my parents bought it, but the old hand pumped well that you
described still existed. My parents had a new well drilled. It
produced wonderful water, then a coal mining company began some blasting
on property not far from outs. That ruined the water, and my parents
had to have a deeper well drilled.

MaryL

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