On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:06:54 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> Unless I had some small account to be used for that purpose, I would
> not consider linking my Papal to a bank account. Sure as hell wouldn't
> link it to my checking account.

I thought you have to link it to an account in order to set it up.

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> After contributing to the cancer fund for many years (I was diagnosed 18
>> years ago) I got fed up with their constant demands. After making a
>> significant donation mid-year, I received a request for more a few weeks
>> later. Then in September I received a calendar with the request that I
>> pay $200 for it. That was the last straw and I immediately told them to
>> take me off the mailing list.
>> The CEO of that charity makes $300k+ !!!!
>> Now with the recession in Calgary, my younger son is finding it tough so
>> charity now begins at home!
>> Graham
>
> Yes, it's sad that after you contribute a few times, they hound you to
> death. Same with PBS, geez, neverending.

It is very stupid of them. A few years ago we got a very nice win on the
lottery and we gave quite a large donation to the Cancer charity. They have
never been off our backs since


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On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:22:44 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:30:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On 6/16/2016 3:55 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >>> I am seeing that a lot with young adults, especially single mothers.
> > >>> They post to the local Facebook group asking for things. One was
> > >>> getting her first apartment and she asked for very specific and
> > >>> expensive things as though it were a wedding gift registry. She only
> > >>> wanted new, high end stuff too. Others ask for food, clothing, toys...
> > >>
> > >> No harm in asking, but the idiots that would actually respond to a
> > >> stranger asking for high end material things aren't to be understood by
> > >> me. I imagine so many of them are simply scams.
> > >>
> > >> Cheri
> > >
> > >Absolutely. Anyone who would send expensive items to some stranger
> > >begging for stuff online deserves to be ripped off.
> > >
> > >Jill
> >
> > Well that's on Fools Book, they get what they deserve.
>
> Because they use Facebook? That's rather narrow-minded of you.

It's typical of her. That said, those drop of a hat Go Fund Me pages
are disgusting too.

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"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:06:54 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> Unless I had some small account to be used for that purpose, I would
>> not consider linking my Papal to a bank account. Sure as hell wouldn't
>> link it to my checking account.
>
> I thought you have to link it to an account in order to set it up.

I think you can put money in there from an account. I wouldn't do that.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:22:44 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > Well that's on Fools Book, they get what they deserve.
> >
> > Because they use Facebook? That's rather narrow-minded of you.
>
> It's typical of her. That said, those drop of a hat Go Fund Me pages
> are disgusting too.

I don't care which social media people use. It's more about what they do
with them.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:42:51 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:


>
>I'd never use my checking account for any online transactions. That will
>never happen.
>
>Cheri

Agreed

On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:43:19 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 6/14/2016 10:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>
>> > > I don't know why people/morons seem to assume that older women
>> > > never worked outside the home, Hell a lot of us worked outside
>> > > the home as well as doing most of the work at home after work. At
>> > > least these days the husbands, boyfriends etc., are helping out a
>> > > whole lot as a rule with the house and kids.
>> > >
>> > > Cheri
>> >
>> > True on the younger ones helping more but plenty of the older
>> > generation men did too. They were however raised where the mother
>> > didnt generally work outside the home and it probably seemed sane to
>> > them to not think too much about how the floors got mopped and such.
>
>> Of eligible women participating in the workforce, in 1950 it was
>> about 27% while today it is almost 60%
>
>I'm suprised it is that low. It seems more like 80% now.
>
>> Stay at home moms was quite common when I was a kid, not so much now.
>> Lots of things have changed, but back then one person could make
>> enough money in a good job to support a family, buy a modest house,
>> one car. I'm not sure we progressed when we warehouse kids in day
>> care.
>
>We didn't really. Don and I decided one of us needed to be home when
>Charlotte was born and since I was active duty and he had just
>'retired' and my income potential was higher, he stayed home. It was
>tough because the stay-at-home women felt threatened somehow to see a
>man do it with a small child while the wife went to work.

I think you have a high powered imagination - why on earth would they
feel threatened? More likely your husband felt threatened.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:21:47 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 16/06/2016 7:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-06-16 5:31 PM, graham wrote:
>>> On 16/06/2016 2:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> On a related note... I am getting tired of almost daily emails petitions
>>>> from change.org looking for my support for things. I think that every
>>>> one of those should include a pro and anti option. If they are looking
>>>> for my support to get something done I want the option to counter it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I avoid that site, life is complicated enough as it is and we are
>>> swamped with information at every turn! I get too many demands from
>>> charities such that I'm experiencing donor fatigue.
>>
>>
>> I am fed up with the business of find raising. It's not enough that you
>> give a donation. If you give enough for them to issue a tax receipt
>> they get your name and address and they won't leave you alone. They send
>> mail, email and telephone you regularly to ask for more. My wife once
>> sent a donation to hospice in Victoria BC in memory of an old school
>> friend who had died. They sent beg letters almost monthly for years and
>> years. For year I was getting beg letters for associations for cancer
>> of just about part of the body. It has dropped off over the last few
>> year. I guess their tracking system figured out they had got to the
>> point where it was costing them more for mailings than they had got from
>> me.
>>
>After contributing to the cancer fund for many years (I was diagnosed 18
>years ago) I got fed up with their constant demands. After making a
>significant donation mid-year, I received a request for more a few weeks
>later. Then in September I received a calendar with the request that I
>pay $200 for it. That was the last straw and I immediately told them to
>take me off the mailing list.
>The CEO of that charity makes $300k+ !!!!
>Now with the recession in Calgary, my younger son is finding it tough so
>charity now begins at home!
>Graham

There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
the average around here. In addition to that my elder daughter did a
day working at the food bank (her company likes employees to do that
sort of thing) and she was disgusted to find certain items were put to
one side to go to her or other members of staff.

I stick with the War Amps, they do a lot of good things for kids and
switched me to email when asked, saving postage. Likewise the Sally
Army. They have a couple of principles that I don't like but their
CEO gets $40,000 pa and they also have switched me to email.

I also work consistently for the Alzheimers Association in memory of
two aunts. This coming Monday we have The Longest Day and start
playing bridge at 6am and go to midnight. My partner and I will play 6
to 12 noon. Also do the 5k walk in May for fund raising.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 00:07:51 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:22:44 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:30:00 -0400, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On 6/16/2016 3:55 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> > >> ...
>> > >>
>> > >>> I am seeing that a lot with young adults, especially single mothers.
>> > >>> They post to the local Facebook group asking for things. One was
>> > >>> getting her first apartment and she asked for very specific and
>> > >>> expensive things as though it were a wedding gift registry. She only
>> > >>> wanted new, high end stuff too. Others ask for food, clothing, toys...
>> > >>
>> > >> No harm in asking, but the idiots that would actually respond to a
>> > >> stranger asking for high end material things aren't to be understood by
>> > >> me. I imagine so many of them are simply scams.
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheri
>> > >
>> > >Absolutely. Anyone who would send expensive items to some stranger
>> > >begging for stuff online deserves to be ripped off.
>> > >
>> > >Jill
>> >
>> > Well that's on Fools Book, they get what they deserve.
>>
>> Because they use Facebook? That's rather narrow-minded of you.
>
>It's typical of her. That said, those drop of a hat Go Fund Me pages
>are disgusting too.

They are not just disgusting, they are typical of Fools Book - yes, I
know you exist by feeling superior - I am surprised you bother with
usenet.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:43:19 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >We didn't really. Don and I decided one of us needed to be home when
> >Charlotte was born and since I was active duty and he had just
> >'retired' and my income potential was higher, he stayed home. It was
> >tough because the stay-at-home women felt threatened somehow to see a
> >man do it with a small child while the wife went to work.
>
> I think you have a high powered imagination - why on earth would they
> feel threatened? More likely your husband felt threatened.

Is that you talking or that same old chip on your shoulder?

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 00:07:51 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:22:44 +1000, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:30:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On 6/16/2016 3:55 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> > >> ...
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> I am seeing that a lot with young adults, especially single mothers.
> >> > >>> They post to the local Facebook group asking for things. One was
> >> > >>> getting her first apartment and she asked for very specific and
> >> > >>> expensive things as though it were a wedding gift registry. She only
> >> > >>> wanted new, high end stuff too. Others ask for food, clothing, toys...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> No harm in asking, but the idiots that would actually respond to a
> >> > >> stranger asking for high end material things aren't to be understood by
> >> > >> me. I imagine so many of them are simply scams.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Cheri
> >> > >
> >> > >Absolutely. Anyone who would send expensive items to some stranger
> >> > >begging for stuff online deserves to be ripped off.
> >> > >
> >> > >Jill
> >> >
> >> > Well that's on Fools Book, they get what they deserve.
> >>
> >> Because they use Facebook? That's rather narrow-minded of you.
> >
> >It's typical of her. That said, those drop of a hat Go Fund Me pages
> >are disgusting too.
>
> They are not just disgusting, they are typical of Fools Book - yes, I
> know you exist by feeling superior - I am surprised you bother with
> usenet.

You don't make much sense.

Bruce wrote:
>
> says...
> >
> > "cshenk" wrote:
> >
> > > Don and I decided one of us needed to be home when
> > >Charlotte was born and since I was active duty and he had just
> > >'retired' and my income potential was higher, he stayed home. It was
> > >tough because the stay-at-home women felt threatened somehow to see a
> > >man do it with a small child while the wife went to work.
> >
> > I think you have a high powered imagination - why on earth would they
> > feel threatened? More likely your husband felt threatened.
>
> Is that you talking or that same old chip on your shoulder?

I completely agree with lucretia here. I can't imagine why stay at
home women would feel threatened by a "Mr.Mom." If anything, a stay
at home husband would be looked down upon as a lazy bum, staying at
home and letting the wife work.

I raised my daughter as a single parent since she was age 7. I was a
stay at home (every chance I got) and also the working parent. I was
the elementary school's very first male room mother. The beginning of
the year room mothers meeting and I was the only guy among many hot
looking moms. Sheldon would have liked that.

Anyway, they didn't feel threatened, they treated me like their mascot
male room mother. Those were good times. I did the room mother thing
for 4 years and enjoyed being part of it all.

In article >, says...
>
> Bruce wrote:
> >
> > says...
> > >
> > > "cshenk" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Don and I decided one of us needed to be home when
> > > >Charlotte was born and since I was active duty and he had just
> > > >'retired' and my income potential was higher, he stayed home. It was
> > > >tough because the stay-at-home women felt threatened somehow to see a
> > > >man do it with a small child while the wife went to work.
> > >
> > > I think you have a high powered imagination - why on earth would they
> > > feel threatened? More likely your husband felt threatened.
> >
> > Is that you talking or that same old chip on your shoulder?
>
> I completely agree with lucretia here. I can't imagine why stay at
> home women would feel threatened by a "Mr.Mom."

You may not be able to imagine it, but that's the reality cshenk
described. Imagine harder.

On 6/17/2016 2:48 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:06:54 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> Unless I had some small account to be used for that purpose, I would
>> not consider linking my Papal to a bank account. Sure as hell wouldn't
>> link it to my checking account.
>
> I thought you have to link it to an account in order to set it up.

I just linked it to a credit card. One that I could cancel in a
heartbeat if something happened and not have to worry about changing
automatic payments.

nancy

Bruce wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > "cshenk" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Don and I decided one of us needed to be home when
> > > > >Charlotte was born and since I was active duty and he had just
> > > > >'retired' and my income potential was higher, he stayed home. It was
> > > > >tough because the stay-at-home women felt threatened somehow to see a
> > > > >man do it with a small child while the wife went to work.
> > > >
> > > > I think you have a high powered imagination - why on earth would they
> > > > feel threatened? More likely your husband felt threatened.
> > >
> > > Is that you talking or that same old chip on your shoulder?
> >
> > I completely agree with lucretia here. I can't imagine why stay at
> > home women would feel threatened by a "Mr.Mom."
>
> You may not be able to imagine it, but that's the reality cshenk
> described. Imagine harder.

cshenk is the one that needs to imagine harder. If stay-at-home women
felt threatened that a man would do that, they must worry that their
husbands might want to do the same and THEY might actually have to go
out each day for a workplace job.

Stay at home is serious work and lots of work but you don't have to
deal with other people. Stay at home means you are your own boss. It
makes a difference. If you've never done it, you are clueless. I was
able to do both and I do know the difference.

A stay at home man is often looked down upon as a lazy bum, letting
his wife go out each day to work.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:41:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> says...
>> >
>> > "cshenk" wrote:
>> >
>> > > Don and I decided one of us needed to be home when
>> > >Charlotte was born and since I was active duty and he had just
>> > >'retired' and my income potential was higher, he stayed home. It was
>> > >tough because the stay-at-home women felt threatened somehow to see a
>> > >man do it with a small child while the wife went to work.
>> >
>> > I think you have a high powered imagination - why on earth would they
>> > feel threatened? More likely your husband felt threatened.
>>
>> Is that you talking or that same old chip on your shoulder?
>
>I completely agree with lucretia here. I can't imagine why stay at
>home women would feel threatened by a "Mr.Mom." If anything, a stay
>at home husband would be looked down upon as a lazy bum, staying at
>home and letting the wife work.
>
>I raised my daughter as a single parent since she was age 7. I was a
>stay at home (every chance I got) and also the working parent. I was
>the elementary school's very first male room mother. The beginning of
>the year room mothers meeting and I was the only guy among many hot
>looking moms. Sheldon would have liked that.
>
>Anyway, they didn't feel threatened, they treated me like their mascot
>male room mother. Those were good times. I did the room mother thing
>for 4 years and enjoyed being part of it all.

Now it's more common but that's exactly what I saw maybe 26 years ago
when I was going up to the elementary school to help with reading -
the women were very nice to a couple of men who were stay-at-home
Dads, maybe envious even.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:25:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> In article >, says...
>> >
>> > Bruce wrote:
>> > >
>> > > says...
>> > > >
>> > > > "cshenk" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Don and I decided one of us needed to be home when
>> > > > >Charlotte was born and since I was active duty and he had just
>> > > > >'retired' and my income potential was higher, he stayed home. It was
>> > > > >tough because the stay-at-home women felt threatened somehow to see a
>> > > > >man do it with a small child while the wife went to work.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think you have a high powered imagination - why on earth would they
>> > > > feel threatened? More likely your husband felt threatened.
>> > >
>> > > Is that you talking or that same old chip on your shoulder?
>> >
>> > I completely agree with lucretia here. I can't imagine why stay at
>> > home women would feel threatened by a "Mr.Mom."
>>
>> You may not be able to imagine it, but that's the reality cshenk
>> described. Imagine harder.
>
>cshenk is the one that needs to imagine harder. If stay-at-home women
>felt threatened that a man would do that, they must worry that their
>husbands might want to do the same and THEY might actually have to go
>out each day for a workplace job.
>
>Stay at home is serious work and lots of work but you don't have to
>deal with other people. Stay at home means you are your own boss. It
>makes a difference. If you've never done it, you are clueless. I was
>able to do both and I do know the difference.
>
>A stay at home man is often looked down upon as a lazy bum, letting
>his wife go out each day to work.

We had one on our local usenet group - he was liked by both male and
female posters and always attended the HNOs. He was an IT man but his
wife was earning more and before they had two girls he decided one of
them should stay home until the kids reached school.

He was/is a great father, the girls have both done well and gone on to
uni. One HNO he brought them with him so we could all meet them,
having heard all their progress from infant to school age. He went
back to work and has also done well himself and says he wouldn't
change a thing if they did it again.

On 2016-06-16 10:21 PM, graham wrote:

> After contributing to the cancer fund for many years (I was diagnosed 18
> years ago) I got fed up with their constant demands. After making a
> significant donation mid-year, I received a request for more a few weeks
> later. Then in September I received a calendar with the request that I
> pay $200 for it. That was the last straw and I immediately told them to
> take me off the mailing list.

A number of them use that gimmick of sending you something and expecting
you to pay for it. My wife used to do that with some of the things and
threw out the rest. After discussing it with her she no longer pays, and
she feels free to use things they send without paying. As I explained it
to her, those things are unsolicited, so they are yours to keep.
Refrain from paying for a long time and they stop sending them.


> The CEO of that charity makes $300k+ !!!!
Of course. He justifies the salary by the money he raises. They spend a
lot of money on advertising and only a small part of it gets to the
actual charity part.


Another thing I am really fed up with is cashiers asking if you want to
donate X amount of dollars to some charity, which seems to vary weekly.
No. I don't want to and I am sick of them asking and putting me in a
spot. I don't blame them but they are required to ask.


> Now with the recession in Calgary, my younger son is finding it tough so
> charity now begins at home!

On 6/16/2016 8:42 AM, g8dgc wrote:
> On 6/14/2016 1:54 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 12:05:13 PM UTC-5, Colonel Edmund J.
>> Burke wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2016 5:10 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
>>>> On 6/13/2016 9:05 PM, Idlehands wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-06-13 8:42 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
>>>>>> Being a full bird Colonel with exemplary credit has its privileges.
>>>>>> Discuss...........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a ****ing idiot with delusions of grandeur while posing as a
>>>>> Vietnam vet.
>>>>>
>>>> You momma gimme good head, little feller.
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>
>>> The dividing line falls at 799. Anything above is "exemplary" credit.
>>> That's me and not U.
>>> LOL
>>
>> And WHAT precisely does an "exemplary" credit rating get you? Besides
>> specious bragging rights?
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
> You momma gimme good head.

My actual response was, "Jealous dummy!"

On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:

> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
> the average around here.

It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on volunteers.

On 2016-06-17 8:40 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:25:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>> Stay at home is serious work and lots of work but you don't have to
>> deal with other people. Stay at home means you are your own boss. It
>> makes a difference. If you've never done it, you are clueless. I was
>> able to do both and I do know the difference.
>>
>> A stay at home man is often looked down upon as a lazy bum, letting
>> his wife go out each day to work.
>
> We had one on our local usenet group - he was liked by both male and
> female posters and always attended the HNOs. He was an IT man but his
> wife was earning more and before they had two girls he decided one of
> them should stay home until the kids reached school.
>
> He was/is a great father, the girls have both done well and gone on to
> uni. One HNO he brought them with him so we could all meet them,
> having heard all their progress from infant to school age. He went
> back to work and has also done well himself and says he wouldn't
> change a thing if they did it again.
>

One time I was at my brother's place and the neighbour and her two
daughters (in their 20s) were there and they were talking about a woman
doctor in the city. They were upset that the doctor's husband was a
stay at home dad. They thought he was a lazy *******, though they all
admitted they thought there was nothing if it were the other way around,
if he was the doctor and his wife stayed home.

On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>
>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>> the average around here.
>
> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
> volunteers.
>
>
>
>

They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>> the average around here.
>>
>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>> volunteers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?

I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.

On 6/17/2016 6:47 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>>> the average around here.
>>>
>>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>>> volunteers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>> money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>> time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>> them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?
>
> I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
> that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.
>

I didn't say they didn't need the help. I said they were able bodies
with time on their hands.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:52:06 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> On 6/17/2016 2:48 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:06:54 -0400, Nancy Young
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Unless I had some small account to be used for that purpose, I would
> >> not consider linking my Papal to a bank account. Sure as hell wouldn't
> >> link it to my checking account.
> >
> > I thought you have to link it to an account in order to set it up.
>
> I just linked it to a credit card. One that I could cancel in a
> heartbeat if something happened and not have to worry about changing
> automatic payments.
>
What do you buy that can't be put on a credit card?

--

sf

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:56:29 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 00:07:51 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:22:44 +1000, Bruce >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article >,
> > >> says...
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:30:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >On 6/16/2016 3:55 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > >> > >> ...
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> I am seeing that a lot with young adults, especially single mothers.
> > >> > >>> They post to the local Facebook group asking for things. One was
> > >> > >>> getting her first apartment and she asked for very specific and
> > >> > >>> expensive things as though it were a wedding gift registry. She only
> > >> > >>> wanted new, high end stuff too. Others ask for food, clothing, toys...
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> No harm in asking, but the idiots that would actually respond to a
> > >> > >> stranger asking for high end material things aren't to be understood by
> > >> > >> me. I imagine so many of them are simply scams.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Cheri
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Absolutely. Anyone who would send expensive items to some stranger
> > >> > >begging for stuff online deserves to be ripped off.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Jill
> > >> >
> > >> > Well that's on Fools Book, they get what they deserve.
> > >>
> > >> Because they use Facebook? That's rather narrow-minded of you.
> > >
> > >It's typical of her. That said, those drop of a hat Go Fund Me pages
> > >are disgusting too.
> >
> > They are not just disgusting, they are typical of Fools Book - yes, I
> > know you exist by feeling superior - I am surprised you bother with
> > usenet.
>
> You don't make much sense.

She's just here to sharpen her fangs and claws.

--

sf

On 2016-06-17 9:47 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>>> the average around here.
>>>
>>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>>> volunteers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>> money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>> time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>> them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?
>
> I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
> that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.
>

I am not a Trump fan, but it would be a good idea to have some of the
food bank clients helping out. Some of them are the working poor but a
lot of them are street people and welfare recipients with lots of time
on their hands. Helping out and getting to meet some of the other
volunteers present the possibility of parlaying a volunteer gig into a
employment.

On 6/17/2016 8:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-06-17 9:47 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>>>> the average around here.
>>>>
>>>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>>>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>>>> volunteers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>>> money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>>> time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>>> them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?
>>
>> I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
>> that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.
>>
>
> I am not a Trump fan, but it would be a good idea to have some of the
> food bank clients helping out. Some of them are the working poor but a
> lot of them are street people and welfare recipients with lots of time
> on their hands. Helping out and getting to meet some of the other
> volunteers present the possibility of parlaying a volunteer gig into a
> employment.
>
>
>

Not to mention enhancing their self respect, if there is such a thing
anymore.

On 2016-06-17 10:16 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 6/17/2016 6:47 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>>>> the average around here.
>>>>
>>>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>>>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>>>> volunteers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>>> money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>>> time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>>> them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?
>>
>> I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
>> that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.
>>
>
> I didn't say they didn't need the help. I said they were able bodies
> with time on their hands.

For some reason, some people want to maintain their right to be offended
and get all bent out of shape when they misconstrue a suggestion as
being something that runs counter to their mindset. They are clients,
they are likely to have lots of time on their hands and it would give
them a way to pay back for some of what they have been taking. Some
people would appreciate the chance.

On 2016-06-17 11:13 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 6/17/2016 8:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-06-17 9:47 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>>>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>>>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>>>>> the average around here.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>>>>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>>>>> volunteers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>>>> money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>>>> time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>>>> them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?
>>>
>>> I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
>>> that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.
>>>
>>
>> I am not a Trump fan, but it would be a good idea to have some of the
>> food bank clients helping out. Some of them are the working poor but a
>> lot of them are street people and welfare recipients with lots of time
>> on their hands. Helping out and getting to meet some of the other
>> volunteers present the possibility of parlaying a volunteer gig into a
>> employment.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Not to mention enhancing their self respect, if there is such a thing
> anymore.

I am not prepared to say that everyone else self-respect. Like common
sense, it has become a rare commodity.

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 2:07:50 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "graham" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >> After contributing to the cancer fund for many years (I was diagnosed 18
> >> years ago) I got fed up with their constant demands. After making a
> >> significant donation mid-year, I received a request for more a few weeks
> >> later. Then in September I received a calendar with the request that I
> >> pay $200 for it. That was the last straw and I immediately told them to
> >> take me off the mailing list.
> >> The CEO of that charity makes $300k+ !!!!
> >> Now with the recession in Calgary, my younger son is finding it tough so
> >> charity now begins at home!
> >> Graham
> >
> > Yes, it's sad that after you contribute a few times, they hound you to
> > death. Same with PBS, geez, neverending.
>
> It is very stupid of them. A few years ago we got a very nice win on the
> lottery and we gave quite a large donation to the Cancer charity. They have
> never been off our backs since
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Nice for you!! :-)

Yeah, you are on their "big donor" list now!!

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:08:25 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:56:29 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 00:07:51 -0700, sf > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:22:44 +1000, Bruce >
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> In article >,
>> > >> says...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:30:00 -0400, jmcquown >
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >On 6/16/2016 3:55 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> > >> > >> ...
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>> I am seeing that a lot with young adults, especially single mothers.
>> > >> > >>> They post to the local Facebook group asking for things. One was
>> > >> > >>> getting her first apartment and she asked for very specific and
>> > >> > >>> expensive things as though it were a wedding gift registry. She only
>> > >> > >>> wanted new, high end stuff too. Others ask for food, clothing, toys...
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> No harm in asking, but the idiots that would actually respond to a
>> > >> > >> stranger asking for high end material things aren't to be understood by
>> > >> > >> me. I imagine so many of them are simply scams.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Cheri
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >Absolutely. Anyone who would send expensive items to some stranger
>> > >> > >begging for stuff online deserves to be ripped off.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >Jill
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Well that's on Fools Book, they get what they deserve.
>> > >>
>> > >> Because they use Facebook? That's rather narrow-minded of you.
>> > >
>> > >It's typical of her. That said, those drop of a hat Go Fund Me pages
>> > >are disgusting too.
>> >
>> > They are not just disgusting, they are typical of Fools Book - yes, I
>> > know you exist by feeling superior - I am surprised you bother with
>> > usenet.
>>
>> You don't make much sense.
>
>She's just here to sharpen her fangs and claws.

Really ? I hear you've got plenty I could sink them in !

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:12:43 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-06-17 9:47 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>>>> the average around here.
>>>>
>>>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>>>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>>>> volunteers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>>> money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>>> time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>>> them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?
>>
>> I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
>> that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.
>>
>
>I am not a Trump fan, but it would be a good idea to have some of the
>food bank clients helping out. Some of them are the working poor but a
>lot of them are street people and welfare recipients with lots of time
>on their hands. Helping out and getting to meet some of the other
>volunteers present the possibility of parlaying a volunteer gig into a
>employment.
>
>
I think you would find that like here, many are food bank people too -
fortunately the food banks don't advertise it, how embarrassing would
that be to serve/work in the food bank and everyone know?

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 12:13:52 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
....
> >
> > I'd never use my checking account for any online transactions. That will
> > never happen.
>
> I have. I have had my account compromised twice. Bank reversed all charges.
> The first time it was a PITA in the paperwork dept. But now such fraud is so
> common, all I had to do was go in, sign something and wait.

I had my Bank Of America account hacked via my debit card with them, and it was a royal PITA for me to do all the legwork to get BofA to cover the fraudulent charges. But I did it! And bailed BofA since, for so many other reasons!! I think credit cards are better than debit cards about fraudulent charges. No experience to back that up, and hope I never have either!

John Kuthe...

On 6/17/2016 8:32 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:12:43 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-06-17 9:47 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>>>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>>>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>>>>> the average around here.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>>>>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>>>>> volunteers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>>>> money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>>>> time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>>>> them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?
>>>
>>> I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
>>> that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.
>>>
>>
>> I am not a Trump fan, but it would be a good idea to have some of the
>> food bank clients helping out. Some of them are the working poor but a
>> lot of them are street people and welfare recipients with lots of time
>> on their hands. Helping out and getting to meet some of the other
>> volunteers present the possibility of parlaying a volunteer gig into a
>> employment.
>>
>>
> I think you would find that like here, many are food bank people too -
> fortunately the food banks don't advertise it, how embarrassing would
> that be to serve/work in the food bank and everyone know?
>

Out here, the few times I have seen pictures of food bank operations on
TV, it was clear the workers were not the recipients, but many were able
bodied just passing through to get their grab bag.

It would look good on a resume showing you were out of work for a period
of time to show that you did some volunteer service. That would put
them ahead of other job applicants.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:36:23 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 6/17/2016 8:32 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:12:43 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-06-17 9:47 AM, wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:32:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/17/2016 6:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-06-17 6:41 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
>>>>>>> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
>>>>>>> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
>>>>>>> the average around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a lot more than she would get if she was managing a store. The
>>>>>> could drop her salary and pay a few people instead of relying on
>>>>>> volunteers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They could pay her a bit less, still rely on volunteers, and put the
>>>>> money toward the charitable work. Plenty of able bodies people with
>>>>> time on their hands showing up at food banks for the handouts, some of
>>>>> them should be drafted into service once in a while. Will they balk?
>>>>
>>>> I don't think people show up at the food bank if they don't need to -
>>>> that sounds like you are mimicking Trump Talk.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am not a Trump fan, but it would be a good idea to have some of the
>>> food bank clients helping out. Some of them are the working poor but a
>>> lot of them are street people and welfare recipients with lots of time
>>> on their hands. Helping out and getting to meet some of the other
>>> volunteers present the possibility of parlaying a volunteer gig into a
>>> employment.
>>>
>>>
>> I think you would find that like here, many are food bank people too -
>> fortunately the food banks don't advertise it, how embarrassing would
>> that be to serve/work in the food bank and everyone know?
>>
>
>Out here, the few times I have seen pictures of food bank operations on
>TV, it was clear the workers were not the recipients, but many were able
>bodied just passing through to get their grab bag.

When they showed food bank operations recently here, several of the
people said when they were out of work they had received and now paid
back with volunteer work.

That's very valuable because trying to find volunteers today for
anything, be it kids sports, village organisation, etc. is like
finding diamonds. Today's 40+ people do not do it as we/I did in my
time. I still do a couple of things but not nearly so much and it's
difficult to leave them when you know they can't find replacements. If
I am enjoying something I always looked to see how I could help with
the organising of it.
>
>It would look good on a resume showing you were out of work for a period
>of time to show that you did some volunteer service. That would put
>them ahead of other job applicants.

Agreed and I believe many actually do the work in order to make
contacts.

On 2016-06-17 11:32 AM, wrote:

>> I am not a Trump fan, but it would be a good idea to have some of the
>> food bank clients helping out. Some of them are the working poor but a
>> lot of them are street people and welfare recipients with lots of time
>> on their hands. Helping out and getting to meet some of the other
>> volunteers present the possibility of parlaying a volunteer gig into a
>> employment.
>>
>>
> I think you would find that like here, many are food bank people too -
> fortunately the food banks don't advertise it, how embarrassing would
> that be to serve/work in the food bank and everyone know?

I don't think it is any more embarrassing to be working in a food bank
than it is to just be a client. I am sure that most of the volunteers
would appreciate that they help out.

On 6/17/2016 8:45 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-06-17 11:32 AM, wrote:
>
>>> I am not a Trump fan, but it would be a good idea to have some of the
>>> food bank clients helping out. Some of them are the working poor but a
>>> lot of them are street people and welfare recipients with lots of time
>>> on their hands. Helping out and getting to meet some of the other
>>> volunteers present the possibility of parlaying a volunteer gig into a
>>> employment.
>>>
>>>
>> I think you would find that like here, many are food bank people too -
>> fortunately the food banks don't advertise it, how embarrassing would
>> that be to serve/work in the food bank and everyone know?
>
> I don't think it is any more embarrassing to be working in a food bank
> than it is to just be a client. I am sure that most of the volunteers
> would appreciate that they help out.
>
>
>

I know volunteers that I think would cringe if they had to actually work
side by side with some of these needy people. Cracks me up.

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 2:07:50 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "graham" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> >> After contributing to the cancer fund for many years (I was diagnosed
>> >> 18
>> >> years ago) I got fed up with their constant demands. After making a
>> >> significant donation mid-year, I received a request for more a few
>> >> weeks
>> >> later. Then in September I received a calendar with the request that I
>> >> pay $200 for it. That was the last straw and I immediately told them
>> >> to
>> >> take me off the mailing list.
>> >> The CEO of that charity makes $300k+ !!!!
>> >> Now with the recession in Calgary, my younger son is finding it tough
>> >> so
>> >> charity now begins at home!
>> >> Graham
>> >
>> > Yes, it's sad that after you contribute a few times, they hound you to
>> > death. Same with PBS, geez, neverending.
>>
>> It is very stupid of them. A few years ago we got a very nice win on the
>> lottery and we gave quite a large donation to the Cancer charity. They
>> have
>> never been off our backs since
>>
>
> Nice for you!! :-)
>
> Yeah, you are on their "big donor" list now!!

Well they sure as hell will not get anything more. Hounding is a very good
description


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 17/06/2016 4:41 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:21:47 -0600, graham > wrote:

>>>
>> After contributing to the cancer fund for many years (I was diagnosed 18
>> years ago) I got fed up with their constant demands. After making a
>> significant donation mid-year, I received a request for more a few weeks
>> later. Then in September I received a calendar with the request that I
>> pay $200 for it. That was the last straw and I immediately told them to
>> take me off the mailing list.
>> The CEO of that charity makes $300k+ !!!!
>> Now with the recession in Calgary, my younger son is finding it tough so
>> charity now begins at home!
>> Graham
>
> There are many I will not give to on account of salaries. Our local
> food bank, the CEO is making $143,000 pa, I'm not suggesting she
> shouldn't be paid, but less than that, something more in keeping with
> the average around here.

I checked the salaries of the local food bank and they were all below
$100k - and it's a very busy one. I started giving them money last year
and they phoned to thank me.
I won't give to the Sallies, despite their good work. They turn away
drunks and druggies when the temperature is dangerously low (as does
another religious group) but the local secular "dosshouse" never turns
anyone away.


> I also work consistently for the Alzheimers Association in memory of
> two aunts. This coming Monday we have The Longest Day and start
> playing bridge at 6am and go to midnight. My partner and I will play 6
> to 12 noon. Also do the 5k walk in May for fund raising.
>
Walks, runs, rides etc. What's the point of them? There are so many of
them now and since the participants have raised the money, the event is
irrelevant.
Graham