Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
read through to the section on grinding
Janet US

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:08:14 -0600, Janet B > wrote:

>
>Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>read through to the section on grinding

Well, that's ONE 'meathead's' opinion.

On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 12:08:23 PM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> read through to the section on grinding
> Janet US

I never do. I buy my Ground Beast at Straub's butcher's counter, and it's freshly ground in the store!!

Best ground beast in STL!! :-)

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:29:18 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:08:14 -0600, Janet B > wrote:
>
>>
>>Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
>> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>>read through to the section on grinding
>
>Well, that's ONE 'meathead's' opinion.
>
What an intelligent response. Obviously you are open to different
ideas. Congratulations.
Janet US

On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:08:23 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> read through to the section on grinding
> Janet US

Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is ground once. I've tried it a few times. It is bloody well tough and has a texture (mouth feel), that I don't like.
All ground beef should be well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it.
People who eat nearly raw ground beef deserve the resultant diarrhea that so often accompanies such action.
====

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:08:23 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
>> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
>> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>> read through to the section on grinding
>> Janet US
>
>Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is ground once. I've tried it a few times. It is bloody well tough and has a texture (mouth feel), that I don't like.
>All ground beef should be well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it.
>People who eat nearly raw ground beef deserve the resultant diarrhea that so often accompanies such action.
>====
I thought it was an interesting take on ground once. I imagine that
is more chewable. I liked the idea of being more airy. You know how
the instructions for making patties is to avoid compressing them.
That's hard when the meat comes compressed from the store
Janet US

"Janet B" > wrote in message
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>
> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> read through to the section on grinding
> Janet US

I'll search for that article I read recently about how we've been buttering
our toast all wrong for all these years.

And for 200 years we've been making Gin and tonics all wrong, too.

https://youtu.be/Hr25YHpAfPc



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Janet B" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
>> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>> read through to the section on grinding
>> Janet US
>
> I'll search for that article I read recently about how we've been
> buttering our toast all wrong for all these years.
>
> And for 200 years we've been making Gin and tonics all wrong, too.
>
> https://youtu.be/Hr25YHpAfPc

Is that a carrot in the 2015 one? <g>



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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:03:56 -0600, Janet B > wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:29:18 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:08:14 -0600, Janet B > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
>>> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>>>read through to the section on grinding
>>
>>Well, that's ONE 'meathead's' opinion.
>>
>What an intelligent response. Obviously you are open to different
>ideas. Congratulations.

The AUTHOR calls HIMSELF meathead, who am *I* to argue with him??

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:08:23 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
>> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
>> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>> read through to the section on grinding
>> Janet US
>
>Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is ground once. I've tried it a few times.
>It is bloody well tough and has a texture (mouth feel), that I don't like.

All stupidmarket beef is ground once, they simply use a a plate with
smaller holes, usually 3/16".

>All ground beef should be well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it.
>People who eat nearly raw ground beef deserve the resultant
>diarrhea that so often accompanies such action.

Larger cuts of beef are internally sterile, they contain no bacteria.
Grinding your own allows you to cook as rare as you like, even eat it
raw which many do; beef tartar. I've been grinding meat myself for
probably longer than you're alive, it's never made me sick because I
either cook it immediately or freeze it... the ground beef at the
stupidmarket was ground a day or three ago, plus you've no idea
what/who's in it. Fancy schmacy butcher shops sell filthy ground beef
because their grinders are not professionally steam cleaned every
night, if cleaned at all for days. I never buy preground mystery
meat. A good quality meat grinder for home use costs about $150.
It'll grind 10 pounds in under five minutes and another five minutes
for clean up. Grinding ones own meat is a no brainer... a functional
brain is something Roy was born without. Roy's mom should sue her
OB-GYN for not advising her to abort. This Roy schmegegi is one of
the dumbest drecks to grace RFC's portals for a very long time.

On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 3:46:24 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:08:23 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> >> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> >> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> >> read through to the section on grinding
> >> Janet US
> >
> >Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is ground once. I've tried it a few times.
> >It is bloody well tough and has a texture (mouth feel), that I don't like.
>
> All stupidmarket beef is ground once, they simply use a a plate with
> smaller holes, usually 3/16".
>
> >All ground beef should be well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it.
> >People who eat nearly raw ground beef deserve the resultant
> >diarrhea that so often accompanies such action.
>
> Larger cuts of beef are internally sterile, they contain no bacteria.
> Grinding your own allows you to cook as rare as you like, even eat it
> raw which many do; beef tartar. I've been grinding meat myself for
> probably longer than you're alive, it's never made me sick because I
> either cook it immediately or freeze it... the ground beef at the
> stupidmarket was ground a day or three ago, plus you've no idea
> what/who's in it. Fancy schmacy butcher shops sell filthy ground beef
> because their grinders are not professionally steam cleaned every
> night, if cleaned at all for days. I never buy preground mystery
> meat. A good quality meat grinder for home use costs about $150.
> It'll grind 10 pounds in under five minutes and another five minutes
> for clean up. Grinding ones own meat is a no brainer... a functional
> brain is something Roy was born without. Roy's mom should sue her
> OB-GYN for not advising her to abort. This Roy schmegegi is one of
> the dumbest drecks to grace RFC's portals for a very long time.

Thanks for the kind remarks but you are wrong. Many supermarket's ground beef is ground twice. I worked for Safeway and other stores and at that time they ALL ground twice.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:08:14 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>
> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> read through to the section on grinding
> Janet US

I'm fine with supermarket hamburger and I don't care if it's made from
meat scraps. That's what hamburger should be composed of. The meat I
buy at the grocery store is prepackaged, but it's exactly the same
texture as what I buy from a stand alone butcher or ground from a
roast I handed to the butcher. The biggest difference is that the
butcher doesn't get the opportunity to confuse me by asking how many
times I want him to put it through the grinder.

What I won't buy are those cryovac-packages of ground meat that come
from somewhere outside the store (complete with a brand name). The
texture of that ground meat isn't what real ground meat should be -
it's probably where they use the now renamed pink slime.

As far as 30% fat - that's a NO. 15% is ideal for me.

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:29:18 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:08:14 -0600, Janet B > wrote:
>
> >
> >Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> > http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> >read through to the section on grinding
>
> Well, that's ONE 'meathead's' opinion.
>
>
He's quite knowledgeable and well regarded in the (online) bbq
community.


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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:44:59 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

> I thought it was an interesting take on ground once. I imagine that
> is more chewable. I liked the idea of being more airy. You know how
> the instructions for making patties is to avoid compressing them.
> That's hard when the meat comes compressed from the store
> Janet US

IMO, the meat that's ground once around here is the chili grind meat.

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:36:37 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

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> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Janet B" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> >> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> >> read through to the section on grinding
> >> Janet US
> >
> > I'll search for that article I read recently about how we've been
> > buttering our toast all wrong for all these years.
> >
> > And for 200 years we've been making Gin and tonics all wrong, too.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/Hr25YHpAfPc
>
> Is that a carrot in the 2015 one? <g>

He lost me at the muddled cherry.

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sf

sf wrote:
>
>I'm fine with supermarket hamburger and I don't care if it's made from
>meat scraps. That's what hamburger should be composed of.

TIAD fat assed 350 pound sf.

On 6/15/2016 2:25 PM, Roy wrote:

>
> Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is ground once. I've tried it a few times. It is bloody well tough and has a texture (mouth feel), that I don't like.
> All ground beef should be well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it.
> People who eat nearly raw ground beef deserve the resultant diarrhea that so often accompanies such action.
> ====
>

Grind your own and you can eat it a bit pink inside safely. Been doing
it for years.

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:36:37 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Janet B" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>
>> >> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>> >> read through to the section on grinding
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> > I'll search for that article I read recently about how we've been
>> > buttering our toast all wrong for all these years.
>> >
>> > And for 200 years we've been making Gin and tonics all wrong, too.
>> >
>> > https://youtu.be/Hr25YHpAfPc
>>
>> Is that a carrot in the 2015 one? <g>
>
> He lost me at the muddled cherry.

lol


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"The New Other Guy" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:03:56 -0600, Janet B > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:29:18 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:08:14 -0600, Janet B > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>>>>read through to the section on grinding
>>>
>>>Well, that's ONE 'meathead's' opinion.
>>>
>>What an intelligent response. Obviously you are open to different
>>ideas. Congratulations.
>
> The AUTHOR calls HIMSELF meathead, who am *I* to argue with him??

lol


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Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> read through to the section on grinding
> Janet US

I've been grinding most of ours for years now.We don't use a lot and
frankly we are grinding more raw meat for friends doggies (they bring
us the meat and help, no reason for them to lay out 3-400$ for a good
grinder and we make a mini kitchen party of it all).

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Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:08:23 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> > Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> > http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> > read through to the section on grinding
> > Janet US
>
> Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is ground
> once. I've tried it a few times. It is bloody well tough and has a
> texture (mouth feel), that I don't like. All ground beef should be
> well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it. People who eat nearly raw
> ground beef deserve the resultant diarrhea that so often accompanies
> such action. ====

Roy, on getting sick that's about properly processing it, and
explicitly the reason why so many grind their own.

Some use an electric knife to cut off a thin layer of the outside (cook
that separately), others use a mild bleach solution to kill anything on
the outside. I use the bleach method. 1/4 TS bleach to a gallon
water. (I only grind beef and pork here)


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Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:08:23 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> >> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> >> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> >> read through to the section on grinding
> >> Janet US
> >
> > Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is ground
> > once. I've tried it a few times. It is bloody well tough and has a
> > texture (mouth feel), that I don't like. All ground beef should be
> > well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it. People who eat nearly raw
> > ground beef deserve the resultant diarrhea that so often
> > accompanies such action. ====
> I thought it was an interesting take on ground once. I imagine that
> is more chewable. I liked the idea of being more airy. You know how
> the instructions for making patties is to avoid compressing them.
> That's hard when the meat comes compressed from the store
> Janet US

I don't double grind it at home and it's not tough at all.

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:13:25 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:08:23 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> > >> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> > >> read through to the section on grinding
> > >> Janet US
> > >
> > > Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is ground
> > > once. I've tried it a few times. It is bloody well tough and has a
> > > texture (mouth feel), that I don't like. All ground beef should be
> > > well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it. People who eat nearly raw
> > > ground beef deserve the resultant diarrhea that so often
> > > accompanies such action. ====
> > I thought it was an interesting take on ground once. I imagine that
> > is more chewable. I liked the idea of being more airy. You know how
> > the instructions for making patties is to avoid compressing them.
> > That's hard when the meat comes compressed from the store
> > Janet US
>
> I don't double grind it at home and it's not tough at all.

I think single grind is more commonly sold as chili grind.

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Sqwertz wrote:
>
> And I have never heard of grocer or packing plant that double grinds.
> The grinders these days are efficient enough to get the job done in
> one pass. Even my home grinder grinds as fine as the grocery store in
> a single pass.
>
> Time and labor is money - especially in the meat packing plants. I
> really doubt any retail/wholesale outfit is double grinding regular
> ground beef

Of all people that I have to disagree with, it just HAD to be you.

I learned 2-3 months ago that my regular grocery store does buy
1st ground meat from a packing plant/wholeseller.
Then they do a 2nd grind and that's what we get on the shelves.

I wasn't happy to hear that. I always thought they did all grinds
in store. Not so.

On 6/15/2016 2:19 PM, The New Other Guy wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:03:56 -0600, Janet B > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:29:18 -0700, The New Other Guy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:08:14 -0600, Janet B > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
>>>> read through to the section on grinding
>>>
>>> Well, that's ONE 'meathead's' opinion.
>>>
>> What an intelligent response. Obviously you are open to different
>> ideas. Congratulations.
>
> The AUTHOR calls HIMSELF meathead, who am *I* to argue with him??
>
>
Missing a semicolon here, somewhere.
LOL

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:13:25 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT), Roy
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:08:23 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> > > >> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> > > >> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> > > >> read through to the section on grinding
> > > >> Janet US
> > > >
> > > > Some good advice. However, I don't like ground beef that is
> > > > ground once. I've tried it a few times. It is bloody well tough
> > > > and has a texture (mouth feel), that I don't like. All ground
> > > > beef should be well cooked to kill the bad bugs in it. People
> > > > who eat nearly raw ground beef deserve the resultant diarrhea
> > > > that so often accompanies such action. ====
> > > I thought it was an interesting take on ground once. I imagine
> > > that is more chewable. I liked the idea of being more airy. You
> > > know how the instructions for making patties is to avoid
> > > compressing them. That's hard when the meat comes compressed
> > > from the store Janet US
> >
> > I don't double grind it at home and it's not tough at all.
>
> I think single grind is more commonly sold as chili grind.

Probably but it's all I do at home and works fine for burgers.

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Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > And I have never heard of grocer or packing plant that double
> > grinds. The grinders these days are efficient enough to get the
> > job done in one pass. Even my home grinder grinds as fine as the
> > grocery store in a single pass.
> >
> > Time and labor is money - especially in the meat packing plants. I
> > really doubt any retail/wholesale outfit is double grinding regular
> > ground beef
>
> Of all people that I have to disagree with, it just HAD to be you.
>
> I learned 2-3 months ago that my regular grocery store does buy
> 1st ground meat from a packing plant/wholeseller.
> Then they do a 2nd grind and that's what we get on the shelves.
>
> I wasn't happy to hear that. I always thought they did all grinds
> in store. Not so.

Dont shop at Kroger and Food lion...


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On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 1:08:23 PM UTC-4, Janet B wrote:
> Why You Should Never Buy Packaged Ground Beef Again
> http://tinyurl.com/hp5j6k7
> read through to the section on grinding
> Janet US

I once got Krogers gr beef in a roll, you couldn't see the meat at all until opened and the meat was sorta purple colored.