On 7/1/2016 1:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>
>> Spanx are not the same as an old-fasioned girdle. They are like a
>> pair of spandex shorts to be worn under clothing. The girdles I
>> remember had hooks for attaching loose stockings. The crotch was
>> open. Some had cinching around the waist (hi-lines, I think they were
>> called) but they were mostly for slimming the hips and smoothing
>> bulges under dresses.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Unfortunately, they were just for women and nothing to help with
> smoothing out bulges and beer bellies shown under the t-shirts of men. :-)
>
> Cheri

LOL! Well, I don't think they could have accomplished that IF a guy
could be convinced to wear one.

Jill

On 7/1/2016 2:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/29/2016 6:36 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>> eb.com...
>>>> Gary > Wrote in message:
>>>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cheri" > Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yes, and that newer commercial about that corset thing to cinch in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > waist, people passing out etc., but...I can't believe they
>>>>>> actually > sell or
>>>>>> > buy those contraptions anymore.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Cheri
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Are you talking about that thing called Miss Belt? I saw that thing
>>>>>> and was shocked that people would cinch their waist like that! And
>>>>>> if you're not already slim, that belly fat has to go somewhere. Ouch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you not recall the common "girdles" that women often wore to fit
>>>>> into
>>>>> a dress for an
>>>>> occasion or whatever? When I was young, I remember my mom had one.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thankfully before my time.
>>>
>>> They're still sold and commonly used. Spanx is one such brand. Some
>>> women wear them under pants.
>>>
>> Spanx are not the same as an old-fasioned girdle. They are like a
>> pair of spandex shorts to be worn under clothing. The girdles I
>> remember had hooks for attaching loose stockings. The crotch was
>> open. Some had cinching around the waist (hi-lines, I think they were
>> called) but they were mostly for slimming the hips and smoothing
>> bulges under dresses.
>
> There were and still are all kinds of girdles. Spanx is one type.

Look it up. Spanx came to market in 2000. Girdles have been around
since the turn of the last century.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/1/2016 2:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 6/29/2016 6:36 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>> eb.com...
>>>>> Gary > Wrote in message:
>>>>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Cheri" > Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Yes, and that newer commercial about that corset thing to cinch in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> > waist, people passing out etc., but...I can't believe they
>>>>>>> actually > sell or
>>>>>>> > buy those contraptions anymore.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Cheri
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Are you talking about that thing called Miss Belt? I saw that thing
>>>>>>> and was shocked that people would cinch their waist like that! And
>>>>>>> if you're not already slim, that belly fat has to go somewhere.
>>>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you not recall the common "girdles" that women often wore to fit
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> a dress for an
>>>>>> occasion or whatever? When I was young, I remember my mom had one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thankfully before my time.
>>>>
>>>> They're still sold and commonly used. Spanx is one such brand. Some
>>>> women wear them under pants.
>>>>
>>> Spanx are not the same as an old-fasioned girdle. They are like a
>>> pair of spandex shorts to be worn under clothing. The girdles I
>>> remember had hooks for attaching loose stockings. The crotch was
>>> open. Some had cinching around the waist (hi-lines, I think they were
>>> called) but they were mostly for slimming the hips and smoothing
>>> bulges under dresses.
>>
>> There were and still are all kinds of girdles. Spanx is one type.
>
> Look it up. Spanx came to market in 2000. Girdles have been around since
> the turn of the last century.

I know that. But Spanx is still a type of girdle.

On 01/07/2016 12:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/1/2016 2:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 6/29/2016 6:36 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>> eb.com...
>>>>> Gary > Wrote in message:
>>>>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Cheri" > Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Yes, and that newer commercial about that corset thing to cinch in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> > waist, people passing out etc., but...I can't believe they
>>>>>>> actually > sell or
>>>>>>> > buy those contraptions anymore.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Cheri
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Are you talking about that thing called Miss Belt? I saw that thing
>>>>>>> and was shocked that people would cinch their waist like that! And
>>>>>>> if you're not already slim, that belly fat has to go somewhere.
>>>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you not recall the common "girdles" that women often wore to fit
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> a dress for an
>>>>>> occasion or whatever? When I was young, I remember my mom had one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thankfully before my time.
>>>>
>>>> They're still sold and commonly used. Spanx is one such brand. Some
>>>> women wear them under pants.
>>>>
>>> Spanx are not the same as an old-fasioned girdle. They are like a
>>> pair of spandex shorts to be worn under clothing. The girdles I
>>> remember had hooks for attaching loose stockings. The crotch was
>>> open. Some had cinching around the waist (hi-lines, I think they were
>>> called) but they were mostly for slimming the hips and smoothing
>>> bulges under dresses.
>>
>> There were and still are all kinds of girdles. Spanx is one type.
>
> Look it up. Spanx came to market in 2000. Girdles have been around
> since the turn of the last century.
>
> Jill
A bit earlier than that:-)

"I'll put a girdle round about the earth"
Puck, MSND, II/1

Mind you, I think Shakespeare was stretching it a bit!
Graham

On 7/1/2016 3:04 PM, graham wrote:

> A bit earlier than that:-)
>
> "I'll put a girdle round about the earth"
> Puck, MSND, II/1
>
> Mind you, I think Shakespeare was stretching it a bit!
>
Amusing.
But 'girdle', to Shakespeare, (as you well know!) did _not_ signify a
stretchy undergarment. A girdle was often a sash, belt, or cord.

On 2016-07-01 3:20 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 7/1/2016 3:04 PM, graham wrote:
>
>> A bit earlier than that:-)
>>
>> "I'll put a girdle round about the earth"
>> Puck, MSND, II/1
>>
>> Mind you, I think Shakespeare was stretching it a bit!
>>
> Amusing.
> But 'girdle', to Shakespeare, (as you well know!) did _not_ signify a
> stretchy undergarment. A girdle was often a sash, belt, or cord.


I don't know how men got dragged into the girdle issue. A girdle was
indeed more \of a sash and commonly worn by men for centuries. It was
not only the early 20th century that it became a women's undergarment,
and it was the demand from women that is responsible for its popularity.
I suppose it was easier to snap on a girdle to hold in the gut than to
diet and exercise.

On 7/1/2016 3:04 PM, graham wrote:
> On 01/07/2016 12:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/1/2016 2:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 6/29/2016 6:36 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>>> eb.com...
>>>>>> Gary > Wrote in message:
>>>>>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Cheri" > Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Yes, and that newer commercial about that corset thing to
>>>>>>>> cinch in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> > waist, people passing out etc., but...I can't believe they
>>>>>>>> actually > sell or
>>>>>>>> > buy those contraptions anymore.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Cheri
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> Are you talking about that thing called Miss Belt? I saw that
>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>> and was shocked that people would cinch their waist like that! And
>>>>>>>> if you're not already slim, that belly fat has to go somewhere.
>>>>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you not recall the common "girdles" that women often wore to fit
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> a dress for an
>>>>>>> occasion or whatever? When I was young, I remember my mom had one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thankfully before my time.
>>>>>
>>>>> They're still sold and commonly used. Spanx is one such brand. Some
>>>>> women wear them under pants.
>>>>>
>>>> Spanx are not the same as an old-fasioned girdle. They are like a
>>>> pair of spandex shorts to be worn under clothing. The girdles I
>>>> remember had hooks for attaching loose stockings. The crotch was
>>>> open. Some had cinching around the waist (hi-lines, I think they were
>>>> called) but they were mostly for slimming the hips and smoothing
>>>> bulges under dresses.
>>>
>>> There were and still are all kinds of girdles. Spanx is one type.
>>
>> Look it up. Spanx came to market in 2000. Girdles have been around
>> since the turn of the last century.
>>
>> Jill
> A bit earlier than that:-)
>
> "I'll put a girdle round about the earth"
> Puck, MSND, II/1
>
> Mind you, I think Shakespeare was stretching it a bit!
> Graham
>
In Shakespeare's days "girdle" had another meaning in terms of fashion.
A belt, often made of precious metal and rather ornate. It was worn
like a piece of jewelry dangling from a woman's waist down the front of
her gown. That was for wealthy women, of course.

Jill

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2016-07-01 3:20 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 7/1/2016 3:04 PM, graham wrote:
>>
>>> A bit earlier than that:-)
>>>
>>> "I'll put a girdle round about the earth"
>>> Puck, MSND, II/1
>>>
>>> Mind you, I think Shakespeare was stretching it a bit!
>>>
>> Amusing.
>> But 'girdle', to Shakespeare, (as you well know!) did _not_ signify a
>> stretchy undergarment. A girdle was often a sash, belt, or cord.
>
>
> I don't know how men got dragged into the girdle issue. A girdle was
> indeed more \of a sash and commonly worn by men for centuries. It was not
> only the early 20th century that it became a women's undergarment, and it
> was the demand from women that is responsible for its popularity. I
> suppose it was easier to snap on a girdle to hold in the gut than to diet
> and exercise.

Men do wear dance girdles which are sometimes padded in the front. When I
danced, they were made for both sexes. Now only for men. I assume if a
female needed such a thing, she could easily buy it in the lingerie dept.
But in those days, the standard girdle had thick stitches and boning.