On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 3:40:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> >
> > It may be unnecessary for many but I just like neat sheets
> > along with folded towels, dishcloths, and underwear.
>
> Nobody looks in my underwear drawer so it is all tossed in there. Bras on
> one side, panties on the other. Socks are balled.
>
>
Panties, neatly folded, are in one drawer along with socks
which are matched but not balled; socks are laid flat. Bras
are in another drawer separated by 'Dream Drawer' dividers into
their respective colors.

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
>Panties, neatly folded, are in one drawer along with socks
>which are matched but not balled; socks are laid flat. Bras
>are in another drawer separated by 'Dream Drawer' dividers into
>their respective colors.

Your're not getting off so easy... show me your bras with you modeling
them... and what size?

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 4:55:06 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 3:40:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > > wrote in message
> > >
> > > It may be unnecessary for many but I just like neat sheets
> > > along with folded towels, dishcloths, and underwear.
> >
> > Nobody looks in my underwear drawer so it is all tossed in there. Bras on
> > one side, panties on the other. Socks are balled.
> >
> >
> Panties, neatly folded, are in one drawer along with socks
> which are matched but not balled; socks are laid flat. Bras
> are in another drawer separated by 'Dream Drawer' dividers into
> their respective colors.

I fairly recently started rolling up my panties after years of
jamming them in a drawer. Socks (in their own drawer) are paired
up and the tops are folded one over the other to keep them together.
Bras (all white) are on the hanger on which they dried, which (when
dry) is hung in the closet between the shirts (left side) and pants
(right side).

When I dress in the morning, I pick the least-recently-used shirt,
a pair of pants (70% of my pants are black), put them on and go.
In the winter I add a sweater.

Sometimes I don't know why I don't just buy a dozen white t-shirts
and call it good.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 4:55:06 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 3:40:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > > wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > It may be unnecessary for many but I just like neat sheets
> > > > along with folded towels, dishcloths, and underwear.
> > >
> > > Nobody looks in my underwear drawer so it is all tossed in there. Bras on
> > > one side, panties on the other. Socks are balled.
> > >
> > >
> > Panties, neatly folded, are in one drawer along with socks
> > which are matched but not balled; socks are laid flat. Bras
> > are in another drawer separated by 'Dream Drawer' dividers into
> > their respective colors.
>
> I fairly recently started rolling up my panties after years of
> jamming them in a drawer. Socks (in their own drawer) are paired
> up and the tops are folded one over the other to keep them together.
> Bras (all white) are on the hanger on which they dried, which (when
> dry) is hung in the closet between the shirts (left side) and pants
> (right side).
>
> When I dress in the morning, I pick the least-recently-used shirt,
> a pair of pants (70% of my pants are black), put them on and go.
> In the winter I add a sweater.
>
> Sometimes I don't know why I don't just buy a dozen white t-shirts
> and call it good.

LOL. I hate clothes shopping, so I buy quality to last and when I find
something I really like, I buy three.

An elderly gent once told me " The great thing about you, Janet, is
that I can always recognise you and remember your name".

Just as I began to preen he added "because you're always wearing the
same thing."

Janet UK

On 6/30/2016 9:44 AM, Janet wrote:

> In article >,
> says...

>> When I dress in the morning, I pick the least-recently-used shirt,
>> a pair of pants (70% of my pants are black), put them on and go.
>> In the winter I add a sweater.
>>
>> Sometimes I don't know why I don't just buy a dozen white t-shirts
>> and call it good.

You wouldn't be the first to find an outfit you like and buy several
and wear the same thing every day. I'm talking people who work in an
office situation, not even someone on the loading dock or whatever.

> LOL. I hate clothes shopping, so I buy quality to last and when I find
> something I really like, I buy three.

Ditto.

> An elderly gent once told me " The great thing about you, Janet, is
> that I can always recognise you and remember your name".

You have your stitched on?? Heh.

> Just as I began to preen he added "because you're always wearing the
> same thing."

Sounds like a good thing.

nancy

On 2016-06-30 9:53 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/30/2016 9:44 AM, Janet wrote:

>
>> An elderly gent once told me " The great thing about you, Janet, is
>> that I can always recognise you and remember your name".
>
> You have your stitched on?? Heh.
>
>> Just as I began to preen he added "because you're always wearing the
>> same thing."
>
> Sounds like a good thing.

Dressing for work was not a problem for me. I had a uniform. My biggest
problem was accumulating enough to ensure I had enough that there would
always be something clean. We were allowed a certain number of
replacements each year and when the budget was tight management would
whine that we should only put in for what we needed. Nuts to that. We
never knew how long it would take for the new issue to arrive.

One year they decided to change uniforms, claiming that a dark blue
would be cheaper and more readily available. Dang. I had a stash of old
uniform shirts that we still in their original packages and I was back
to two long sleeve and four short sleeve shirts.

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 8:00:39 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >
> >Panties, neatly folded, are in one drawer along with socks
> >which are matched but not balled; socks are laid flat. Bras
> >are in another drawer separated by 'Dream Drawer' dividers into
> >their respective colors.
>
> Your're not getting off so easy... show me your bras with you modeling
> them... and what size?
>
>
You'll just have to use your imagination and daydream on
this subject. But I will tell you I have several different
colors. That's all you're getting from me, carry on.

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 4:55:06 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 3:40:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > wrote in message
> > > > >
> > > > > It may be unnecessary for many but I just like neat sheets
> > > > > along with folded towels, dishcloths, and underwear.
> > > >
> > > > Nobody looks in my underwear drawer so it is all tossed in there. Bras on
> > > > one side, panties on the other. Socks are balled.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Panties, neatly folded, are in one drawer along with socks
> > > which are matched but not balled; socks are laid flat. Bras
> > > are in another drawer separated by 'Dream Drawer' dividers into
> > > their respective colors.
> >
> > I fairly recently started rolling up my panties after years of
> > jamming them in a drawer. Socks (in their own drawer) are paired
> > up and the tops are folded one over the other to keep them together.
> > Bras (all white) are on the hanger on which they dried, which (when
> > dry) is hung in the closet between the shirts (left side) and pants
> > (right side).
> >
> > When I dress in the morning, I pick the least-recently-used shirt,
> > a pair of pants (70% of my pants are black), put them on and go.
> > In the winter I add a sweater.
> >
> > Sometimes I don't know why I don't just buy a dozen white t-shirts
> > and call it good.
>
> LOL. I hate clothes shopping, so I buy quality to last and when I find
> something I really like, I buy three.
>
> An elderly gent once told me " The great thing about you, Janet, is
> that I can always recognise you and remember your name".
>
> Just as I began to preen he added "because you're always wearing the
> same thing."

I do the same. At work, it's always the traditional white painters
clothes. Off work it's always jeans and a white t-shirt. I have several
of each. I also hate clothes shopping.

" wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 8:00:39 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> > itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> > >
> > >Panties, neatly folded, are in one drawer along with socks
> > >which are matched but not balled; socks are laid flat. Bras
> > >are in another drawer separated by 'Dream Drawer' dividers into
> > >their respective colors.
> >
> > Your're not getting off so easy... show me your bras with you modeling
> > them... and what size?
> >
> >
> You'll just have to use your imagination and daydream on
> this subject. But I will tell you I have several different
> colors. That's all you're getting from me, carry on.

Heck, just that should last him well into the summer.

On 6/30/2016 9:07 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 4:55:06 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 3:40:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> It may be unnecessary for many but I just like neat sheets
>>>> along with folded towels, dishcloths, and underwear.
>>>
>>> Nobody looks in my underwear drawer so it is all tossed in there. Bras on
>>> one side, panties on the other. Socks are balled.
>>>
>>>
>> Panties, neatly folded, are in one drawer along with socks
>> which are matched but not balled; socks are laid flat. Bras
>> are in another drawer separated by 'Dream Drawer' dividers into
>> their respective colors.
>
> I fairly recently started rolling up my panties after years of
> jamming them in a drawer. Socks (in their own drawer) are paired
> up and the tops are folded one over the other to keep them together.
> Bras (all white) are on the hanger on which they dried, which (when
> dry) is hung in the closet between the shirts (left side) and pants
> (right side).
>
> When I dress in the morning, I pick the least-recently-used shirt,
> a pair of pants (70% of my pants are black), put them on and go.
> In the winter I add a sweater.
>
> Sometimes I don't know why I don't just buy a dozen white t-shirts
> and call it good.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

I simplified some of that years ago. I have two types of socks. White
crew socks for sneakers, black for dress. They just get laid flat in
the drawer, not paired since they are all the same. All my underwear is
the same, plain white, nothing to match.

I have four identical pairs of sneakers, two of shoes, one pair of
winter shoes for sloppy weather.

Summer casual shirts are identical pull overs, just different colors,
one of each offered.

On 6/30/2016 9:53 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/30/2016 9:44 AM, Janet wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>
>>> When I dress in the morning, I pick the least-recently-used shirt,
>>> a pair of pants (70% of my pants are black), put them on and go.
>>> In the winter I add a sweater.
>>>
>>> Sometimes I don't know why I don't just buy a dozen white t-shirts
>>> and call it good.
>
> You wouldn't be the first to find an outfit you like and buy several
> and wear the same thing every day. I'm talking people who work in an
> office situation, not even someone on the loading dock or whatever.
>
>> LOL. I hate clothes shopping, so I buy quality to last and when I find
>> something I really like, I buy three.
>
> Ditto.
>
>> An elderly gent once told me " The great thing about you, Janet, is
>> that I can always recognise you and remember your name".
>
> You have your stitched on?? Heh.
>
>> Just as I began to preen he added "because you're always wearing the
>> same thing."
>
> Sounds like a good thing.
>
> nancy
>
>
>
>
Ditto to all. It makes dressing so much easier.


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Cheryl

On 6/28/2016 6:38 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 9:07:35 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>> On 27/06/2016 4:32 PM, wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 4:43:29 PM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Martha has a video showing how to "properly" fold fitted sheets.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I just watched someone from her staff show how to fold a
>>> fitted sheet to a clueless guest on her recent TV show.
>>> Good grief, no wonder the guest makes such a horrible
>>> mess of folding her fitted sheets.
>>>
>>> Here's a YouTube video that is very similar to the way
>>> I fold my fitted sheets. Fitted sheets taken off the
>>> clothes line are easier to fold than ones just coming
>>> out of the dryer.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHTyH2nuFAw
>>>
>> What an effing waste of time!!!!!
>> Graham
>
> Agreed. I wash the sheets and put them back on the bed. We've got
> a set of spares in case of some odd occurrence. They're the old
> set that we retired from daily use when they became worn out.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I'm one of those who washes and puts the sheets back on the bed. I have
cotton for the warm weather, flannel for the cold.


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Cheryl

On 6/28/2016 7:23 AM, wrote:

> My cat might complain if everything was tossed in - she likes to be
> able to hike open the linen cupboard door, jump up on to the sheets
> and nestle down. She complains by tossing stuff out onto the floor,
> so it pays to make sure she has a nice bed in there I suppose I
> could put another hitch on the door instead of the magnetic one but
> lifes too short to bother

One thing I miss about my Shamrock that I had to put to rest in January
is that he was the only one of my 5 cats at the time that wrestled with
the sheets when I changed sheets. It was a pain at the time, but always
made me laugh at how he fought with the sheets. None of my others do
this, so changing sheets now and making the bed is easier but not as
much fun.

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Cheryl

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 00:11:08 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 6/28/2016 6:38 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I wash the sheets and put them back on the bed. We've got
>> a set of spares in case of some odd occurrence. They're the old
>> set that we retired from daily use when they became worn out.
>>
>I'm one of those who washes and puts the sheets back on the bed.

Me too, assuming they dry in time.

>I have
>cotton for the warm weather, flannel for the cold.

Again, me too... although at some point I just settled on flannel
sheets all year round <shrug>.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 00:14:43 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 6/28/2016 7:23 AM, wrote:
>
>> My cat might complain if everything was tossed in - she likes to be
>> able to hike open the linen cupboard door, jump up on to the sheets
>> and nestle down. She complains by tossing stuff out onto the floor,
>> so it pays to make sure she has a nice bed in there I suppose I
>> could put another hitch on the door instead of the magnetic one but
>> lifes too short to bother
>
>One thing I miss about my Shamrock that I had to put to rest in January
>is that he was the only one of my 5 cats at the time that wrestled with
>the sheets when I changed sheets. It was a pain at the time, but always
>made me laugh at how he fought with the sheets. None of my others do
>this, so changing sheets now and making the bed is easier but not as
>much fun.

LOL. Lucy loves to get under the fitted sheet while I'm trying to fit
the sheet to the bed. Sometimes I just leave her there and fit it
anyway. She can squirm her way out down one side when she's ready.

On 6/29/2016 4:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> My husband has this annoying little whistle that he does. I don't know
> how I happened onto this but I learned that by recreating the whistle,
> the cats will stop what they are doing. For some reason, Jetta never
> quite got the hang of how to scratch in the litter box. She does
> scratch. Just outside the litter box or on the wall. I whistle, the she
> looks at me, stops the behavior and goes on. Not necessarily bad
> behavior. Just kind of wrong and stupid. I also use it when they start
> to fight.

I never interfere with how they choose to use the litterbox as long as
they use it. If they want to scratch the outside, so be it. LOL I also
don't interfere if they have meowing and hissing matches. It never goes
beyond hissing to make the aggressor stop and walk away eventually so I
feel it is better to let them settle their own battles.

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Cheryl

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 00:19:48 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 6/29/2016 4:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> My husband has this annoying little whistle that he does. I don't know
>> how I happened onto this but I learned that by recreating the whistle,
>> the cats will stop what they are doing. For some reason, Jetta never
>> quite got the hang of how to scratch in the litter box. She does
>> scratch. Just outside the litter box or on the wall. I whistle, the she
>> looks at me, stops the behavior and goes on. Not necessarily bad
>> behavior. Just kind of wrong and stupid. I also use it when they start
>> to fight.
>
>I never interfere with how they choose to use the litterbox as long as
>they use it. If they want to scratch the outside, so be it.

I finally eliminated the litter box from the house a few month ago.
First from inside the house itself and then I removed it from the
verandah. Annie and Lucy certainly used the litter box okay, except
Lucy would sit there and scratch for 5 minutes like she was digging to
China, which could get annoying at 2AM. Now they just go outside to do
their business, which is fine here as we have no neighbours or
anything else to cause a problem.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 6/29/2016 4:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> My husband has this annoying little whistle that he does. I don't know
>> how I happened onto this but I learned that by recreating the whistle,
>> the cats will stop what they are doing. For some reason, Jetta never
>> quite got the hang of how to scratch in the litter box. She does
>> scratch. Just outside the litter box or on the wall. I whistle, the she
>> looks at me, stops the behavior and goes on. Not necessarily bad
>> behavior. Just kind of wrong and stupid. I also use it when they start
>> to fight.
>
> I never interfere with how they choose to use the litterbox as long as
> they use it. If they want to scratch the outside, so be it. LOL I also
> don't interfere if they have meowing and hissing matches. It never goes
> beyond hissing to make the aggressor stop and walk away eventually so I
> feel it is better to let them settle their own battles.

But she actually peeled off part of the wallpaper. Although I totally hate
the wallpaper, I also don't want to deal with having to strip it all off and
redo the wall. So it will likely stay up there till I die.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 00:19:48 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>>On 6/29/2016 4:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> My husband has this annoying little whistle that he does. I don't know
>>> how I happened onto this but I learned that by recreating the whistle,
>>> the cats will stop what they are doing. For some reason, Jetta never
>>> quite got the hang of how to scratch in the litter box. She does
>>> scratch. Just outside the litter box or on the wall. I whistle, the she
>>> looks at me, stops the behavior and goes on. Not necessarily bad
>>> behavior. Just kind of wrong and stupid. I also use it when they start
>>> to fight.
>>
>>I never interfere with how they choose to use the litterbox as long as
>>they use it. If they want to scratch the outside, so be it.
>
> I finally eliminated the litter box from the house a few month ago.
> First from inside the house itself and then I removed it from the
> verandah. Annie and Lucy certainly used the litter box okay, except
> Lucy would sit there and scratch for 5 minutes like she was digging to
> China, which could get annoying at 2AM. Now they just go outside to do
> their business, which is fine here as we have no neighbours or
> anything else to cause a problem.

My cats are not allowed outside. Not safe to let them out there. Too many
cars and wild animals.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
news:5775db61$0$34526$c3e8da3

> I don't think most bra makers read those studies because it is very hard
> to find bras in the right size even with measurements. Another bs thing
> women have to deal with.

Amen to that!

Cheri

On 6/28/2016 2:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:39:00 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 6/28/2016 11:37 AM, graham wrote:
>>> On 28/06/2016 6:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>> I get the top sheet, the pillowcases and the bottom sheet
>>>> into even-ish rectangles, stack them and roll. They fit
>>>> into the linen closet that way and they're all together.
>>>>
>>>> All of this might take a minute. What's the big deal.
>>
>>> Because it is so unnecessary.
>>
>> Well, I know you're busy inventing the cure for all deadly diseases
>> while finding a solution for world hunger, so your days are very
>> busy. I can chit chat or watch tv while folding the sheets so they
>> aren't wrinkly when it's time to use them. I even managed to fold
>> sheets when I was working crazy hours.
>
> Like washing dishes by hand or hanging laundry to dry, I have
> much, much better things to do than fold sheets. Virtually
> anything is better than housework, although reading books
> is my first preference.
>
> I don't care if sheets are wrinkled. I take 'em out of the
> dryer and pretty much count on the fact that they'll be back
> on the bed by the time I'm ready to go to sleep.
>
> Sometimes nearly a week passes before I fold a basket of
> laundry (not until I'm ready to use that basket again to
> do another load). Wrinkly socks and skivvies are far down
> on my list of concerns.
>
> I immediately hang up the clothes that I wear to work, as soon
> as they come out of the dryer. I'm not completely without
> standards.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
When I was a child, my grandmother actually *ironed* her sheets.
Fortunately, my mother considered that a waste of time, so I am happy to
admit that I have never ironed sheets. In fact, I normally buy clothing
that does not need to be ironed. I do have a steamer that I use on the
few items that need some extra help.

MaryL

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 04:21:55 -0500, MaryL >
wrote:

>On 6/28/2016 2:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:39:00 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 6/28/2016 11:37 AM, graham wrote:
>>>> On 28/06/2016 6:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I get the top sheet, the pillowcases and the bottom sheet
>>>>> into even-ish rectangles, stack them and roll. They fit
>>>>> into the linen closet that way and they're all together.
>>>>>
>>>>> All of this might take a minute. What's the big deal.
>>>
>>>> Because it is so unnecessary.
>>>
>>> Well, I know you're busy inventing the cure for all deadly diseases
>>> while finding a solution for world hunger, so your days are very
>>> busy. I can chit chat or watch tv while folding the sheets so they
>>> aren't wrinkly when it's time to use them. I even managed to fold
>>> sheets when I was working crazy hours.
>>
>> Like washing dishes by hand or hanging laundry to dry, I have
>> much, much better things to do than fold sheets. Virtually
>> anything is better than housework, although reading books
>> is my first preference.
>>
>> I don't care if sheets are wrinkled. I take 'em out of the
>> dryer and pretty much count on the fact that they'll be back
>> on the bed by the time I'm ready to go to sleep.
>>
>> Sometimes nearly a week passes before I fold a basket of
>> laundry (not until I'm ready to use that basket again to
>> do another load). Wrinkly socks and skivvies are far down
>> on my list of concerns.
>>
>> I immediately hang up the clothes that I wear to work, as soon
>> as they come out of the dryer. I'm not completely without
>> standards.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>When I was a child, my grandmother actually *ironed* her sheets.
>Fortunately, my mother considered that a waste of time, so I am happy to
>admit that I have never ironed sheets. In fact, I normally buy clothing
>that does not need to be ironed. I do have a steamer that I use on the
>few items that need some extra help.
>
>MaryL

Back then there weren't any fitted sheets and no iron fabrics had not
yet been invented... you'd not want to sleep on unironed linen
bedding. My grandmother owned a B&B (used to be called tourist
homes), she used a mangle for pressing bedding.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mangle+iron

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>
> > I don't think most bra makers read those studies because it is very hard
> > to find bras in the right size even with measurements. Another bs thing
> > women have to deal with.
>
> Yep. The size as stated on the label varies very much from manufacturer to
> manufacturer and even from bra to bra. I recently mail ordered one bra and
> it fit like a dream. Ordered several others exactly the same but different
> colors. All too small.
>
>
May I offer the suggestion that both of you (not together
of course)go for a professional bra fitting? Bras are like
women's clothing; they are not standardized. What might be
a 34C in one manufacturers line could be a 36B in another.
Even with a company's line of bras the band and cup size
can vary greatly. I found that out several years ago.

On 7/1/2016 12:14 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 6/28/2016 7:23 AM, wrote:
>
>> My cat might complain if everything was tossed in - she likes to be
>> able to hike open the linen cupboard door, jump up on to the sheets
>> and nestle down. She complains by tossing stuff out onto the floor,

Maybe our cats are related!

>> so it pays to make sure she has a nice bed in there I suppose I
>> could put another hitch on the door instead of the magnetic one but
>> lifes too short to bother
>
> One thing I miss about my Shamrock that I had to put to rest in January
> is that he was the only one of my 5 cats at the time that wrestled with
> the sheets when I changed sheets. It was a pain at the time, but always
> made me laugh at how he fought with the sheets. None of my others do
> this, so changing sheets now and making the bed is easier but not as
> much fun.

So true. It's annoying when you're trying to make the bed, but it's
good for a laugh at the same time. Things are more amusing when you
have pets around, sorry your other cats haven't stepped up. Hee.

nancy

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:12:45 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>
>> > I don't think most bra makers read those studies because it is very hard
>> > to find bras in the right size even with measurements. Another bs thing
>> > women have to deal with.
>>
>> Yep. The size as stated on the label varies very much from manufacturer to
>> manufacturer and even from bra to bra. I recently mail ordered one bra and
>> it fit like a dream. Ordered several others exactly the same but different
>> colors. All too small.
>>
>>
>May I offer the suggestion that both of you (not together
>of course)go for a professional bra fitting? Bras are like
>women's clothing; they are not standardized. What might be
>a 34C in one manufacturers line could be a 36B in another.
>Even with a company's line of bras the band and cup size
>can vary greatly. I found that out several years ago.

That actually applies to all womens clothing and is something I find
very annoying. The other day I bought some pants, size 8 ! I went to
the fitting room with 10/12 which is my size, I am not an 8 and
haven't been since I was a pre-teen lol

I solved the bra/comfort question with Genie bras - they are so
comfortable I am sure they were designed by a woman

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 10:42:37 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 7/1/2016 12:14 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 6/28/2016 7:23 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> My cat might complain if everything was tossed in - she likes to be
>>> able to hike open the linen cupboard door, jump up on to the sheets
>>> and nestle down. She complains by tossing stuff out onto the floor,
>
>Maybe our cats are related!
>
>>> so it pays to make sure she has a nice bed in there I suppose I
>>> could put another hitch on the door instead of the magnetic one but
>>> lifes too short to bother
>>
>> One thing I miss about my Shamrock that I had to put to rest in January
>> is that he was the only one of my 5 cats at the time that wrestled with
>> the sheets when I changed sheets. It was a pain at the time, but always
>> made me laugh at how he fought with the sheets. None of my others do
>> this, so changing sheets now and making the bed is easier but not as
>> much fun.
>
>So true. It's annoying when you're trying to make the bed, but it's
>good for a laugh at the same time. Things are more amusing when you
>have pets around, sorry your other cats haven't stepped up. Hee.
>
>nancy

Three cats ago when he was a kitten Bucket did that. Crawled under
the duvet and fitted sheet. He was so small he didn't even make a
bump and I hunted high and low for him. When he grew into a terrier
sized cat he found it a little too difficult. Sorry to hear about
Shamrock, it's the unfortunate side of catdom, they don't live as long
as us.

The cat I have now is Winnie and I just inherited a fish from my
granddaughter as my greatgrandson proved too young for the
responsibility. It's Canada Day and Winnie is doing admirable duty
'standing on guard' for RedBelly. Fortunately she can look but can't
catch, cat proof lid.

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 9:49:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> I solved the bra/comfort question with Genie bras - they are so
> comfortable I am sure they were designed by a woman
>
>
I have seriously thought of trying the Genie bras but I don't
want to wrestle with a bra that goes over my head to either
be put on or taken off.

Around the house I have some cheapie bras I wear but when
I go out into the public I want a supportive bra and the only
ones that do that for me are underwire bras. I can spot a
large breasted woman who does not wear an underwire bra a
mile away. Her boobs look like a spare tire around her
chest.

On 2016-07-01 10:49 AM, wrote:

>
> That actually applies to all womens clothing and is something I find
> very annoying. The other day I bought some pants, size 8 ! I went to
> the fitting room with 10/12 which is my size, I am not an 8 and
> haven't been since I was a pre-teen lol

I think shoe size standards have gone out the window too. I have worn
size 11 shoes since I was about 13. I have had trouble with running
shoes hurting my toes and went to size 12 .. problem solved. A few
weeks ago I went shopping for new shows and ended up buying size 13.

I had been wearing neoprene boat boots for kayaking and I bought size
11. They were a tight fit. After a couple years of tolerating them
putting my feet to sleep I splurged on a new pair. I could not get into
size 12 and ended up with 13.




> I solved the bra/comfort question with Genie bras - they are so
> comfortable I am sure they were designed by a woman
>

On 7/1/2016 8:22 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 04:21:55 -0500, MaryL >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2016 2:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:39:00 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 6/28/2016 11:37 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>> On 28/06/2016 6:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I get the top sheet, the pillowcases and the bottom sheet
>>>>>> into even-ish rectangles, stack them and roll. They fit
>>>>>> into the linen closet that way and they're all together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of this might take a minute. What's the big deal.
>>>>
>>>>> Because it is so unnecessary.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I know you're busy inventing the cure for all deadly diseases
>>>> while finding a solution for world hunger, so your days are very
>>>> busy. I can chit chat or watch tv while folding the sheets so they
>>>> aren't wrinkly when it's time to use them. I even managed to fold
>>>> sheets when I was working crazy hours.
>>>
>>> Like washing dishes by hand or hanging laundry to dry, I have
>>> much, much better things to do than fold sheets. Virtually
>>> anything is better than housework, although reading books
>>> is my first preference.
>>>
>>> I don't care if sheets are wrinkled. I take 'em out of the
>>> dryer and pretty much count on the fact that they'll be back
>>> on the bed by the time I'm ready to go to sleep.
>>>
>>> Sometimes nearly a week passes before I fold a basket of
>>> laundry (not until I'm ready to use that basket again to
>>> do another load). Wrinkly socks and skivvies are far down
>>> on my list of concerns.
>>>
>>> I immediately hang up the clothes that I wear to work, as soon
>>> as they come out of the dryer. I'm not completely without
>>> standards.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> When I was a child, my grandmother actually *ironed* her sheets.
>> Fortunately, my mother considered that a waste of time, so I am happy to
>> admit that I have never ironed sheets. In fact, I normally buy clothing
>> that does not need to be ironed. I do have a steamer that I use on the
>> few items that need some extra help.
>>
>> MaryL
>
> Back then there weren't any fitted sheets and no iron fabrics had not
> yet been invented... you'd not want to sleep on unironed linen
> bedding. My grandmother owned a B&B (used to be called tourist
> homes), she used a mangle for pressing bedding.
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mangle+iron
>
Yes, my grandmother had that type of ironer. My mother did not, but the
unironed sheets never bothered us. They got soft and nice after awhile.
My mother originally had a washing machine in the basement that took a
great deal of work. It was the type with a wringer attached. She
thought we were living in luxury when she got an electric washer and
dryer that was placed in the kitchen.

MaryL

On Fri, 01 Jul 2016 09:22:09 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 04:21:55 -0500, MaryL >
>wrote:
>
>>On 6/28/2016 2:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:39:00 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 6/28/2016 11:37 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>> On 28/06/2016 6:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I get the top sheet, the pillowcases and the bottom sheet
>>>>>> into even-ish rectangles, stack them and roll. They fit
>>>>>> into the linen closet that way and they're all together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of this might take a minute. What's the big deal.
>>>>
>>>>> Because it is so unnecessary.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I know you're busy inventing the cure for all deadly diseases
>>>> while finding a solution for world hunger, so your days are very
>>>> busy. I can chit chat or watch tv while folding the sheets so they
>>>> aren't wrinkly when it's time to use them. I even managed to fold
>>>> sheets when I was working crazy hours.
>>>
>>> Like washing dishes by hand or hanging laundry to dry, I have
>>> much, much better things to do than fold sheets. Virtually
>>> anything is better than housework, although reading books
>>> is my first preference.
>>>
>>> I don't care if sheets are wrinkled. I take 'em out of the
>>> dryer and pretty much count on the fact that they'll be back
>>> on the bed by the time I'm ready to go to sleep.
>>>
>>> Sometimes nearly a week passes before I fold a basket of
>>> laundry (not until I'm ready to use that basket again to
>>> do another load). Wrinkly socks and skivvies are far down
>>> on my list of concerns.
>>>
>>> I immediately hang up the clothes that I wear to work, as soon
>>> as they come out of the dryer. I'm not completely without
>>> standards.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>When I was a child, my grandmother actually *ironed* her sheets.
>>Fortunately, my mother considered that a waste of time, so I am happy to
>>admit that I have never ironed sheets. In fact, I normally buy clothing
>>that does not need to be ironed. I do have a steamer that I use on the
>>few items that need some extra help.
>>
>>MaryL
>
>Back then there weren't any fitted sheets and no iron fabrics had not
>yet been invented... you'd not want to sleep on unironed linen
>bedding. My grandmother owned a B&B (used to be called tourist
>homes), she used a mangle for pressing bedding.
>http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mangle+iron

My sister was so good with a Mangle that she did her entire family's
wash with a mangle. Blouses, shirts, pants, sheets and pillowcases.
She was a wonder.
Janet US

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:12:45 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> > I don't think most bra makers read those studies because it is very
>>> > hard
>>> > to find bras in the right size even with measurements. Another bs
>>> > thing
>>> > women have to deal with.
>>>
>>> Yep. The size as stated on the label varies very much from manufacturer
>>> to
>>> manufacturer and even from bra to bra. I recently mail ordered one bra
>>> and
>>> it fit like a dream. Ordered several others exactly the same but
>>> different
>>> colors. All too small.
>>>
>>>
>>May I offer the suggestion that both of you (not together
>>of course)go for a professional bra fitting? Bras are like
>>women's clothing; they are not standardized. What might be
>>a 34C in one manufacturers line could be a 36B in another.
>>Even with a company's line of bras the band and cup size
>>can vary greatly. I found that out several years ago.
>
> That actually applies to all womens clothing and is something I find
> very annoying. The other day I bought some pants, size 8 ! I went to
> the fitting room with 10/12 which is my size, I am not an 8 and
> haven't been since I was a pre-teen lol

A lot of manufacturers do "vanity sizing" so it seems like you wearing a
smaller size.

Cheri

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:30:31 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 9:49:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> I solved the bra/comfort question with Genie bras - they are so
>> comfortable I am sure they were designed by a woman
>>
>>
>I have seriously thought of trying the Genie bras but I don't
>want to wrestle with a bra that goes over my head to either
>be put on or taken off.
>
>Around the house I have some cheapie bras I wear but when
>I go out into the public I want a supportive bra and the only
>ones that do that for me are underwire bras. I can spot a
>large breasted woman who does not wear an underwire bra a
>mile away. Her boobs look like a spare tire around her
>chest.

I find them supportive but then again, I'm not particularly large. You
could step into them too if you don't like pulling them over your
head, to me, that's an advantage, no clips.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:19:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:12:45 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> > I don't think most bra makers read those studies because it is very
>>>> > hard
>>>> > to find bras in the right size even with measurements. Another bs
>>>> > thing
>>>> > women have to deal with.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. The size as stated on the label varies very much from manufacturer
>>>> to
>>>> manufacturer and even from bra to bra. I recently mail ordered one bra
>>>> and
>>>> it fit like a dream. Ordered several others exactly the same but
>>>> different
>>>> colors. All too small.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>May I offer the suggestion that both of you (not together
>>>of course)go for a professional bra fitting? Bras are like
>>>women's clothing; they are not standardized. What might be
>>>a 34C in one manufacturers line could be a 36B in another.
>>>Even with a company's line of bras the band and cup size
>>>can vary greatly. I found that out several years ago.
>>
>> That actually applies to all womens clothing and is something I find
>> very annoying. The other day I bought some pants, size 8 ! I went to
>> the fitting room with 10/12 which is my size, I am not an 8 and
>> haven't been since I was a pre-teen lol
>
>A lot of manufacturers do "vanity sizing" so it seems like you wearing a
>smaller size.
>
>Cheri

It's dammned annoying though, I prefer not to bother trying on but I
had suspicions about these. Thankfully a friend was with me and she
chased down the 8s for me

On 6/30/2016 10:54 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>
> I don't think most bra makers read those studies because it is very hard
> to find bras in the right size even with measurements. Another bs thing
> women have to deal with.
>
Boys! (laughing)

I finally found a couple of nice-fitting bras (after all these years)
but I don't wear them around the house. I do wear a bra when I'm going
out. The bra is the first thing to be shucked off when I get home. I
think most women know how to take one off without even removing their
shirt/blouse/top.

Jill

On 7/1/2016 10:49 AM, wrote:
>
> I solved the bra/comfort question with Genie bras - they are so
> comfortable I am sure they were designed by a woman

Oh! I tried one of those and couldn't stand it! I felt like I had to be
a contortionist to get the damn thing on over my head. It was hot and
not at all comfortable. Also very warm. I won't be sitting around in a
Genie bra or an Ahh bra (same concept).

Jill

On 7/1/2016 11:30 AM, wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 9:49:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> I solved the bra/comfort question with Genie bras - they are so
>> comfortable I am sure they were designed by a woman
>>
>>
> I have seriously thought of trying the Genie bras but I don't
> want to wrestle with a bra that goes over my head to either
> be put on or taken off.
>
That was exactly my problem with the Genie bra, Joan. I tried one. Had
to wrestle it over my head and down my back to get it in place. Good
lord, this is a PITA. No thank you!

Jill

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>
>> > I don't think most bra makers read those studies because it is very
>> > hard
>> > to find bras in the right size even with measurements. Another bs thing
>> > women have to deal with.
>>
>> Yep. The size as stated on the label varies very much from manufacturer
>> to
>> manufacturer and even from bra to bra. I recently mail ordered one bra
>> and
>> it fit like a dream. Ordered several others exactly the same but
>> different
>> colors. All too small.
>>
>>
> May I offer the suggestion that both of you (not together
> of course)go for a professional bra fitting? Bras are like
> women's clothing; they are not standardized. What might be
> a 34C in one manufacturers line could be a 36B in another.
> Even with a company's line of bras the band and cup size
> can vary greatly. I found that out several years ago.

I do know how to fit bras. And if a bra is correctly sized, I can tell the
size by looking at it. However, I mail order my bras. I am picky as to what
I will wear and I can't afford to buy what I want in brick and mortar
stores. I used to be able to buy Wienna online. But no more. That's the Thai
version of Wacoal but more reasonably priced.

The bad problem for me now is that I began reacting to all of the bras that
I have. Something to do with the wires. Not sure what it is but any and all
wires give me a rash. Wire free are not good for me because I need the
support of the wires. So nothing I wear is going to look good.

Some years ago, my mom got very angry at me for telling her that she was
wearing the wrong size bra. And she was. She finally went for a fitting as
she didn't believe me. Both the band and the cup sizes were too small.

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 9:49:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> I solved the bra/comfort question with Genie bras - they are so
>> comfortable I am sure they were designed by a woman
>>
>>
> I have seriously thought of trying the Genie bras but I don't
> want to wrestle with a bra that goes over my head to either
> be put on or taken off.
>
> Around the house I have some cheapie bras I wear but when
> I go out into the public I want a supportive bra and the only
> ones that do that for me are underwire bras. I can spot a
> large breasted woman who does not wear an underwire bra a
> mile away. Her boobs look like a spare tire around her
> chest.

The online reviews of those things are horrible. Do not fit right and do not
offer support.

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:19:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:12:45 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> > I don't think most bra makers read those studies because it is very
>>>>> > hard
>>>>> > to find bras in the right size even with measurements. Another bs
>>>>> > thing
>>>>> > women have to deal with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. The size as stated on the label varies very much from
>>>>> manufacturer
>>>>> to
>>>>> manufacturer and even from bra to bra. I recently mail ordered one bra
>>>>> and
>>>>> it fit like a dream. Ordered several others exactly the same but
>>>>> different
>>>>> colors. All too small.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>May I offer the suggestion that both of you (not together
>>>>of course)go for a professional bra fitting? Bras are like
>>>>women's clothing; they are not standardized. What might be
>>>>a 34C in one manufacturers line could be a 36B in another.
>>>>Even with a company's line of bras the band and cup size
>>>>can vary greatly. I found that out several years ago.
>>>
>>> That actually applies to all womens clothing and is something I find
>>> very annoying. The other day I bought some pants, size 8 ! I went to
>>> the fitting room with 10/12 which is my size, I am not an 8 and
>>> haven't been since I was a pre-teen lol
>>
>>A lot of manufacturers do "vanity sizing" so it seems like you wearing a
>>smaller size.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> It's dammned annoying though, I prefer not to bother trying on but I
> had suspicions about these. Thankfully a friend was with me and she
> chased down the 8s for me

Annoying for sure.

Cheri

On 7/1/2016 12:18 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 00:14:43 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2016 7:23 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> My cat might complain if everything was tossed in - she likes to be
>>> able to hike open the linen cupboard door, jump up on to the sheets
>>> and nestle down. She complains by tossing stuff out onto the floor,
>>> so it pays to make sure she has a nice bed in there I suppose I
>>> could put another hitch on the door instead of the magnetic one but
>>> lifes too short to bother
>>
>> One thing I miss about my Shamrock that I had to put to rest in January
>> is that he was the only one of my 5 cats at the time that wrestled with
>> the sheets when I changed sheets. It was a pain at the time, but always
>> made me laugh at how he fought with the sheets. None of my others do
>> this, so changing sheets now and making the bed is easier but not as
>> much fun.
>
> LOL. Lucy loves to get under the fitted sheet while I'm trying to fit
> the sheet to the bed. Sometimes I just leave her there and fit it
> anyway. She can squirm her way out down one side when she's ready.
>
Yeah, that's the fun thing about cats. They try to make a game out of
making the bed! Fine, I'll just put the sheet on top of you. Then
comes the hand-game of smoothing out the sheet. You pretend you don't
know the cat is under the sheet. Play time!

When Buffy came to live with me I washed the bedsheets and the blanket.
I had the bedspread folded down on the floor. She looked at it like
hey, that doesn't belong down here. She curled up on it anyway.
After I made the bed and it came to put the bedspread back on she was a
tad indignant. But then she discovered she could climb up from under
the bedspread and leap out at me like a jack-in-the-box! I couldn't
help but laugh. She liked that little trick so well she got down and
did it again.

Jill