On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:14:38 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, ost
>says...
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:19:52 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> > I think Stewart's has great ice cream and a great selection of
>> > flavors... and they always have two flavors of the week at $3/half
>> > gallon.
>> > http://www.stewartsshops.com/special...ors/ice-cream/
>>
>> Again, you're living in the past. The price has gone up to $3.19
>> <snork>
>
>Hardly worth pointing out.
><snicker>

The dwarf can't help it, he loves to learn from me.
I'm always amazed at how he knows all the prices where I live when
he's half a world away, and there are no Stewarts' Shops on his
planet, it's a localized New England company. Actually Stewart's
Shops ice cream weekly special prices vary slightly but typically
under $3, and price and flavors vary by location... I *obviously* just
rounded it off, nothing is priced at an exact dollar amount, even
their gas is always like $2.19.9 Their weekly special ice cream price
where I shop is most usually $2.89.
http://www.stewartsshops.com/find-a-shop-2/

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I'm looking for some dry ice. I'm thinking that it can be used to rid my
>>> car of roaches. I just fill up the interior with CO2 and suffocate the
>>> *******s.
>>
>> LOL poor roaches.
>>
>> Incidentally did you hear about Tesla car that crashed and killed the
>> driver Seems it happened in May in US and it is only just now being
>> publicised.
>>
>> The are now saying that the driver must always keep his/her hands on the
>> steering wheel. Seems a bit of a waste of time to me.
>
> I'll drive my own car thank you very much.
>

Same here but I know that MrD loves Tesla cars)


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On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 6:56:35 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:37:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jeßus" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:10:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:50:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:34:00 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>> > ...
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >> True. Plain chocolate is my husband's favorite. Very hard to find.
> >>>>>>> >> And
> >>>>>>> >> if
> >>>>>>> >> I do find it, it's usually a cheap brand that he doesn't like.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > I think Thrifty/Rite Aid has the best plain chocolate, not very
> >>>>>>> > expensive
> >>>>>>> > either. Do you have one near you?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There's a Rite Aid but it's not a place I normally go. Pretty much
> >>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>> if I
> >>>>>>> need an after hours prescription. I did go to get those lawn
> >>>>>>> decorations
> >>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> the locations were too far away to be able to get ice cream home.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I live almost an hour from our main grocery store. I have no trouble
> >>>>>> getting ice cream home in 80 degree temps. They just put a couple or
> >>>>>> three
> >>>>>> paper bags around the ice cream. No problem. If you PLAN for these
> >>>>>> things
> >>>>>> they don't become problematic.
> >>>>>> ====
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It would be a rare time indeed when I would plan to buy ice cream.
> >>>>>Tomorrow
> >>>>>will be such a day. Store is 6 miles from here but we will be going
> >>>>>after
> >>>>>dinner so it will have gotten cooler by then, I think. It's a small
> >>>>>store
> >>>>>and I plan mainly to buy frozen stuff so it should work.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's just practical to always have re-useable and thermal insulated
> >>>> bags in the car with you. That way you are always prepared.
> >>>
> >>>I do have them. But without ice, they won't keep ice cream frozen hard..
> >>
> >> So... use some ice or ice packs?
> >
> >In order to do that I would have to have the ice packs with me. I rarely do,
>
> So, take some with you when you go shopping... I always take some ice
> packs and a cooler when shopping. It's not like it is hard to put in
> your car (he says, waiting for the creative negative response)?
>
> >> I have no problem buying ice cream and getting it home still frozen,
> >> sometimes that means 3 or 4 hours before it gets into my freezer from
> >> the supermarket. A simple cooler with and ice pack is all that's
> >> required.
> >
> >You must be buying very large containers of ice cream or something, I only
> >buy the single serve.
>
> I don't buy big tubs because from what I have seen here, they are all
> cheap and nasty ice creams with that foamy mouthfeel, which I hate.

Yep, the makers whip AIR into it!! Air is cheaper than butter and cream!!


John Kuthe...

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 10:28:06 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >>
> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> I'm looking for some dry ice. I'm thinking that it can be used to rid my
> >>> car of roaches. I just fill up the interior with CO2 and suffocate the
> >>> *******s.
> >>
> >> LOL poor roaches.
> >>
> >> Incidentally did you hear about Tesla car that crashed and killed the
> >> driver Seems it happened in May in US and it is only just now being
> >> publicised.
> >>
> >> The are now saying that the driver must always keep his/her hands on the
> >> steering wheel. Seems a bit of a waste of time to me.
> >
> > I'll drive my own car thank you very much.
> >
>
> Same here but I know that MrD loves Tesla cars)
>
....

I love Tesla COILS!! :-)

John Kuthe...

On 7/1/2016 11:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I'm looking for some dry ice. I'm thinking that it can be used to
>>>> rid my car of roaches. I just fill up the interior with CO2 and
>>>> suffocate the *******s.
>>>
>>> LOL poor roaches.
>>>
>>> Incidentally did you hear about Tesla car that crashed and killed the
>>> driver Seems it happened in May in US and it is only just now
>>> being publicised.
>>>
>>> The are now saying that the driver must always keep his/her hands on
>>> the steering wheel. Seems a bit of a waste of time to me.
>>
>> I'll drive my own car thank you very much.
>>
>
> Same here but I know that MrD loves Tesla cars)
>
>

My car will give a warning if I take my hands off the wheel for longer
than about a minute. It has adaptable cruise control and braking but
they still expect you to steer and pay attention. Tesla goes a step or
two more than the Genesis in that respect.

On the accident in question the trailer it went under was not very
visible do to the white color and the sky but I don't now any more than
that. Speculation is the accident could have even happened if the
driver was in complete control. They may never resolve that though.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/1/2016 11:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for some dry ice. I'm thinking that it can be used to
>>>>> rid my car of roaches. I just fill up the interior with CO2 and
>>>>> suffocate the *******s.
>>>>
>>>> LOL poor roaches.
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally did you hear about Tesla car that crashed and killed the
>>>> driver Seems it happened in May in US and it is only just now
>>>> being publicised.
>>>>
>>>> The are now saying that the driver must always keep his/her hands on
>>>> the steering wheel. Seems a bit of a waste of time to me.
>>>
>>> I'll drive my own car thank you very much.
>>>
>>
>> Same here but I know that MrD loves Tesla cars)
>>
>>
>
> My car will give a warning if I take my hands off the wheel for longer
> than about a minute. It has adaptable cruise control and braking but they
> still expect you to steer and pay attention. Tesla goes a step or two
> more than the Genesis in that respect.
>
> On the accident in question the trailer it went under was not very visible
> do to the white color and the sky but I don't now any more than that.
> Speculation is the accident could have even happened if the driver was in
> complete control. They may never resolve that though.

Well the driver can't put in a report



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On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:42:34 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 6:56:35 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:37:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:10:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:50:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:34:00 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> ...
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> > ...
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >> True. Plain chocolate is my husband's favorite. Very hard to find.
>> >>>>>>> >> And
>> >>>>>>> >> if
>> >>>>>>> >> I do find it, it's usually a cheap brand that he doesn't like.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > I think Thrifty/Rite Aid has the best plain chocolate, not very
>> >>>>>>> > expensive
>> >>>>>>> > either. Do you have one near you?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> There's a Rite Aid but it's not a place I normally go. Pretty much
>> >>>>>>> only
>> >>>>>>> if I
>> >>>>>>> need an after hours prescription. I did go to get those lawn
>> >>>>>>> decorations
>> >>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>> the locations were too far away to be able to get ice cream home.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I live almost an hour from our main grocery store. I have no trouble
>> >>>>>> getting ice cream home in 80 degree temps. They just put a couple or
>> >>>>>> three
>> >>>>>> paper bags around the ice cream. No problem. If you PLAN for these
>> >>>>>> things
>> >>>>>> they don't become problematic.
>> >>>>>> ====
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>It would be a rare time indeed when I would plan to buy ice cream.
>> >>>>>Tomorrow
>> >>>>>will be such a day. Store is 6 miles from here but we will be going
>> >>>>>after
>> >>>>>dinner so it will have gotten cooler by then, I think. It's a small
>> >>>>>store
>> >>>>>and I plan mainly to buy frozen stuff so it should work.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It's just practical to always have re-useable and thermal insulated
>> >>>> bags in the car with you. That way you are always prepared.
>> >>>
>> >>>I do have them. But without ice, they won't keep ice cream frozen hard.
>> >>
>> >> So... use some ice or ice packs?
>> >
>> >In order to do that I would have to have the ice packs with me. I rarely do,
>>
>> So, take some with you when you go shopping... I always take some ice
>> packs and a cooler when shopping. It's not like it is hard to put in
>> your car (he says, waiting for the creative negative response)?
>>
>> >> I have no problem buying ice cream and getting it home still frozen,
>> >> sometimes that means 3 or 4 hours before it gets into my freezer from
>> >> the supermarket. A simple cooler with and ice pack is all that's
>> >> required.
>> >
>> >You must be buying very large containers of ice cream or something, I only
>> >buy the single serve.
>>
>> I don't buy big tubs because from what I have seen here, they are all
>> cheap and nasty ice creams with that foamy mouthfeel, which I hate.
>
>Yep, the makers whip AIR into it!! Air is cheaper than butter and cream!!

It's more than just the air in it. I don't know what the manufacturing
process is, but it comes out nothing like what I expect ice cream to
be.

On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 10:18:23 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1om> wrote in message
> ...
>
> > I'm looking for some dry ice. I'm thinking that it can be used to rid my
> > car of roaches. I just fill up the interior with CO2 and suffocate the
> > *******s.
>
> LOL poor roaches.
>
> Incidentally did you hear about Tesla car that crashed and killed the
> driver Seems it happened in May in US and it is only just now being
> publicised.
>
> The are now saying that the driver must always keep his/her hands on the
> steering wheel. Seems a bit of a waste of time to me.
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

My guess is that this happens because Tesla driver have got a lot more money than brains. It's a good thing I don't have a Tesla because I'd be taking a nap after a couple of miles. Hawaii is probably the most sleep deprived state in the union. I get around 5 hours of sleep a night myself - 4 if I got me clothes on. Hee hee.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/271061

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

> My guess is that this happens because Tesla driver have got a lot more
> money than brains. It's a good thing I don't have a Tesla because I'd be
> taking a nap after a couple of miles. Hawaii is probably the most sleep
> deprived state in the union. I get around 5 hours of sleep a night
> myself - 4 if I got me clothes on. Hee hee.
>
> https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/271061

I am not the best sleeper in the world either.

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On 7/1/2016 10:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> My guess is that this happens because Tesla driver have got a lot more
>> money than brains. It's a good thing I don't have a Tesla because I'd
>> be taking a nap after a couple of miles. Hawaii is probably the most
>> sleep deprived state in the union. I get around 5 hours of sleep a
>> night myself - 4 if I got me clothes on. Hee hee.
>>
>> https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/271061
>
> I am not the best sleeper in the world either.
>

I sleep like a baby at the drop of a hat. I frequently doze off at work
and at various public place. I'm an embarrassment to my family I
suppose. But getting back to the topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rK3s_BP9kE

On 7/1/2016 4:07 PM, Je�us wrote:

>>> I don't buy big tubs because from what I have seen here, they are all
>>> cheap and nasty ice creams with that foamy mouthfeel, which I hate.
>>
>> Yep, the makers whip AIR into it!! Air is cheaper than butter and cream!!
>
> It's more than just the air in it. I don't know what the manufacturing
> process is, but it comes out nothing like what I expect ice cream to
> be.
>

It has to have some air in it or it would not be icecream. It would be
solid frozen milk or cream like eating an ice cube. Premium ice cream
has 50% of less overrun. Cheap icecream has 100%.

The best vanilla has simple ingredients: cream, sugar, vanilla. Cheap
has added things like guar gum, carrageenan, artificial flavors, lots of
air.

Best are home made and it is getting difficult to find quality ice
cream. Years ago Breyers was really good, but they caved in to the
quest for profit and it now has all the junk of cheap brands. Ben &
Jerry (minimal additives) and Haagen Daz are still decent.

On 01/07/2016 3:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/1/2016 4:07 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
>>>> I don't buy big tubs because from what I have seen here, they are all
>>>> cheap and nasty ice creams with that foamy mouthfeel, which I hate.
>>>
>>> Yep, the makers whip AIR into it!! Air is cheaper than butter and
>>> cream!!
>>
>> It's more than just the air in it. I don't know what the manufacturing
>> process is, but it comes out nothing like what I expect ice cream to
>> be.
>>
>
> It has to have some air in it or it would not be icecream. It would be
> solid frozen milk or cream like eating an ice cube. Premium ice cream
> has 50% of less overrun. Cheap icecream has 100%.
>
> The best vanilla has simple ingredients: cream, sugar, vanilla. Cheap
> has added things like guar gum, carrageenan, artificial flavors, lots of
> air.
>
> Best are home made and it is getting difficult to find quality ice
> cream. Years ago Breyers was really good, but they caved in to the
> quest for profit and it now has all the junk of cheap brands. Ben &
> Jerry (minimal additives) and Haagen Daz are still decent.

It's also difficult to find heavy cream that has not been adulterated
with carrageenan (to facilitate whipping, I suppose).
Graham

On 2016-07-01 5:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> It has to have some air in it or it would not be icecream. It would be
> solid frozen milk or cream like eating an ice cube. Premium ice cream
> has 50% of less overrun. Cheap icecream has 100%.
>
> The best vanilla has simple ingredients: cream, sugar, vanilla. Cheap
> has added things like guar gum, carrageenan, artificial flavors, lots of
> air.
>
> Best are home made and it is getting difficult to find quality ice
> cream. Years ago Breyers was really good, but they caved in to the
> quest for profit and it now has all the junk of cheap brands. Ben &
> Jerry (minimal additives) and Haagen Daz are still decent.

Having made my own ice cream for years I can tell you that you do it for
the sake of having pure ingredients and for the flavours you opt for,
not for the money. By the time you add the cream, milk, sugar and eggs
you have come close to paying for an quart of Haagen Daz. Then there is
the flavouring. Most of them call for a significant amount of vanilla
extract, but then there are the other flavours. A good vanilla also uses
a vanilla bean. Chocolate, IIRC correctly, calls for 6 squares of
baker's chocolate.

I found vanilla to be the most difficult to turn out with a really nice
texture, but chocolate was easy. It is nice to be able to make flavours
that are hard to find in stores. Rum and raisin was one our our
favourites. I would macerate the raisins in dark rum to plumb them up
and add some zip to them, put a cup of rum and raisins in the freezer to
chill for a few hours and then add it to the base as it was starting to
set up. My wife especially loved the coffee ice cream I made. I used
instant espresso powder to the base for that one. It may not have been
quite as good as real espresso, but I did not have to worry about the
added water affecting the texture.

One time our local fruit stand owner gave me some Italian plums. They
were way to tart to eat, so I made a compote with them. I had some left
over when I made my next batch of ice cream so I threw that into it, and
it was surprisingly delicious.

On 7/1/2016 6:04 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>>
>> The best vanilla has simple ingredients: cream, sugar, vanilla. Cheap
>> has added things like guar gum, carrageenan, artificial flavors, lots of
>> air.
>
> Some stabilizers are necessary. You wouldn't like ice cream without
> some sort of stabilizer at all unless its right out of the churn. But
> a lot of manufacturers add way too many since they're cheap and act as
> a filler - allowing them to whip even more air into the mixture. The
> cheapest of the cheap ice creams will actually melt but still hold
> their scoop shape due to emulsifiers.
>
> Of course the best stabilizer is egg yolk, but finding ice cream with
> egg yolk as the only stabilizer is pretty rare.
>
> -sw
>

Haagen Dazs
Vanilla
ingredients: cream, skim milk, sugar, egg yolks, vanilla extract

Vanilla bean
ingredients: cream, skim milk, sugar, egg yolks, ground vanilla beans,
vanilla extract

Chocolate
ingredients: cream, skim milk, sugar, cocoa processed with alkali, egg yolks

Strawberry
ingredients: cream, skim milk, strawberries, sugar, egg yolks

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:04:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:25:12 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2016 4:07 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>>>>> I don't buy big tubs because from what I have seen here, they are all
>>>>> cheap and nasty ice creams with that foamy mouthfeel, which I hate.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, the makers whip AIR into it!! Air is cheaper than butter and cream!!
>>>
>>> It's more than just the air in it. I don't know what the manufacturing
>>> process is, but it comes out nothing like what I expect ice cream to
>>> be.
>>>
>>
>> It has to have some air in it or it would not be icecream. It would be
>> solid frozen milk or cream like eating an ice cube. Premium ice cream
>> has 50% of less overrun. Cheap icecream has 100%.
>>
>> The best vanilla has simple ingredients: cream, sugar, vanilla. Cheap
>> has added things like guar gum, carrageenan, artificial flavors, lots of
>> air.
>
>Some stabilizers are necessary. You wouldn't like ice cream without
>some sort of stabilizer at all unless its right out of the churn. But
>a lot of manufacturers add way too many since they're cheap and act as
>a filler - allowing them to whip even more air into the mixture. The
>cheapest of the cheap ice creams will actually melt but still hold
>their scoop shape due to emulsifiers.
>
>Of course the best stabilizer is egg yolk, but finding ice cream with
>egg yolk as the only stabilizer is pretty rare.
>
>-sw

This spumoni is the best ice cream:
TARTOFFU

Tartoffu is a dome-shaped Italian ice cream confection,
generally served as a dessert but can be eaten alone as
a snack, usually served with demi-tasse. Tartoffu can be
prepared in various sized portions; for single serving, for six,
eight, as many as you'd like.

Here we go...

Choose an appropriate sized [round-bottomed] glass bowl,
one large or several small bowls. Line bowls with plastic wrap
leaving extra lapping over the rim. Place lined bowl(s) in fridge.

Next melt bittersweet chocolate, how much depending upon bowl
size(s) - you can never have too much chocolate - actually how
much will become apparent shortly.

Coat inside of cold lined bowl(s) with melted chocolate. A fairly
thick coat is required, approximately 1/8" thick - you may need
to apply 2-3 coats chilling bowl(s) in freezer between coats.

Chocolate bowl(s) will be filled with ice cream, so begin preparing
ice cream filling ahead.

Here is the traditional ice cream recipe; prepare a quantity which
will suffice. Again, the method whereby this recipe is used for
Tartoffu will become apparent.

Spumoni©

I think it would be very hard to find a spumoni mold nowadays,
so instead, use a large 3/4-quart jello mold.

First Mixtu

2 cups milk
3/4 cups sugar
5 egg yolks
1/2 tsp vanilla (or you can use any flavoring you wish).

Combine milk, sugar, egg yolks, and vanilla in a saucepan
and cook over very low heat, stirring constantly until
mixture is thick. Cool, then place in a metal bowl and freeze
until mixture is medium hard, about two hours. Mixture should
be soft enough to be spooned out easily.

Second Mixtu

1 cup heavy cream beaten stiff
1/4 cup sugar
9 maraschino cherries, cut into small pieces
1 tbsp. candied orange peel cut fine
2 tbsp blanched slivered almonds

Gently mix all of the ingredients together, and chill in refrigerator.
Chill your mold well. When first mixture is ready, line the inside of
the mold with it, leaving a hole big enough for the second mixture
in the center. Fill hole with second mixture, and cover with wax
paper,
or plastic wrap and freeze for two hours. Dip in warm water quickly
to unmold. Cut into portions of 6 to 8.

Now fill your chocolate lined bowl(s) with ice cream, leaving 1/4"
space
at top. Place filled bowl(s) into freezer to set up, about 1 hour.
Meanwhile re-heat or melt more chocolate. Then fill the 1/4" space
with a thick coating of chocolate - this will become the Tartoffu
bottom.
Cover Tartoffu(s) with plastic wrap and place back into freezer until
ready
to serve.

To serve remove from freezer and peel back plastic wrap.
Invert Tartoffu(s) onto appropriate serving plate(s) and unmold
gently and peel off remaining plastic wrap.
Place one half a glacè cherry on top of each Tartoffu - Mangia!

On 6/28/2016 1:09 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Not literally. In fact I only buy ice cream a couple of times a year.
> But hey, it's summer in the northern hemisphere so this is as good a
> time as any to enjoy a scoop or two.
>
> Someone (Dave? Ed?) will undoubtedly chime in and say homemade is the
> best. I'm sure it is. However, since I don't eat a lot of ice cream it
> really wouldn't be practical for me to bother making it. Half a gallon
> of ice cream lasts about 6 months.
>
> Number one with me is coffee ice cream. Mint chocoloate chip comes in
> second.
>
> I'm not a fan of fruit ice cream, although I do like sherbet
> occasionally. Watermelon sherbet is delicious and refreshing, yet oddly
> I do not enjoy actual watermelon. Pineapple sherbet is good, too.
>
> Pineapple juice is a great tenderizer for tougher cuts of meat which
> require marinating.
>
> Jill

I love ice cream! I don't eat it often, but when I do, it is my
homemade. Ed has a really nice document of recipes that I saved many
years ago and refer to it a lot.

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Cheryl

On 7/1/2016 8:05 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 6/28/2016 1:09 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Not literally. In fact I only buy ice cream a couple of times a year.
>> But hey, it's summer in the northern hemisphere so this is as good a
>> time as any to enjoy a scoop or two.
>>
>> Someone (Dave? Ed?) will undoubtedly chime in and say homemade is the
>> best. I'm sure it is. However, since I don't eat a lot of ice cream it
>> really wouldn't be practical for me to bother making it. Half a gallon
>> of ice cream lasts about 6 months.
>>
>> Number one with me is coffee ice cream. Mint chocoloate chip comes in
>> second.
>>
>> I'm not a fan of fruit ice cream, although I do like sherbet
>> occasionally. Watermelon sherbet is delicious and refreshing, yet oddly
>> I do not enjoy actual watermelon. Pineapple sherbet is good, too.
>>
>> Pineapple juice is a great tenderizer for tougher cuts of meat which
>> require marinating.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I love ice cream! I don't eat it often, but when I do, it is my
> homemade. Ed has a really nice document of recipes that I saved many
> years ago and refer to it a lot.
>

care to share?

On 7/1/2016 11:09 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:

>>
>> I love ice cream! I don't eat it often, but when I do, it is my
>> homemade. Ed has a really nice document of recipes that I saved many
>> years ago and refer to it a lot.
>>
>
> care to share?

It is on my other computer. I'll try to remember to post it tomorrow.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/1/2016 10:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> My guess is that this happens because Tesla driver have got a lot more
>>> money than brains. It's a good thing I don't have a Tesla because I'd
>>> be taking a nap after a couple of miles. Hawaii is probably the most
>>> sleep deprived state in the union. I get around 5 hours of sleep a
>>> night myself - 4 if I got me clothes on. Hee hee.
>>>
>>> https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/271061
>>
>> I am not the best sleeper in the world either.
>>
>
> I sleep like a baby at the drop of a hat. I frequently doze off at work
> and at various public place. I'm an embarrassment to my family I suppose.
> But getting back to the topic:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rK3s_BP9kE

Eesh. I know someone who sleeps like that.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2016-07-01 5:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> It has to have some air in it or it would not be icecream. It would be
>> solid frozen milk or cream like eating an ice cube. Premium ice cream
>> has 50% of less overrun. Cheap icecream has 100%.
>>
>> The best vanilla has simple ingredients: cream, sugar, vanilla. Cheap
>> has added things like guar gum, carrageenan, artificial flavors, lots of
>> air.
>>
>> Best are home made and it is getting difficult to find quality ice
>> cream. Years ago Breyers was really good, but they caved in to the
>> quest for profit and it now has all the junk of cheap brands. Ben &
>> Jerry (minimal additives) and Haagen Daz are still decent.
>
> Having made my own ice cream for years I can tell you that you do it for
> the sake of having pure ingredients and for the flavours you opt for, not
> for the money. By the time you add the cream, milk, sugar and eggs you
> have come close to paying for an quart of Haagen Daz. Then there is the
> flavouring. Most of them call for a significant amount of vanilla extract,
> but then there are the other flavours. A good vanilla also uses a vanilla
> bean. Chocolate, IIRC correctly, calls for 6 squares of baker's
> chocolate.
>
> I found vanilla to be the most difficult to turn out with a really nice
> texture, but chocolate was easy. It is nice to be able to make flavours
> that are hard to find in stores. Rum and raisin was one our our
> favourites. I would macerate the raisins in dark rum to plumb them up and
> add some zip to them, put a cup of rum and raisins in the freezer to chill
> for a few hours and then add it to the base as it was starting to set up.
> My wife especially loved the coffee ice cream I made. I used instant
> espresso powder to the base for that one. It may not have been quite as
> good as real espresso, but I did not have to worry about the added water
> affecting the texture.
>
> One time our local fruit stand owner gave me some Italian plums. They
> were way to tart to eat, so I made a compote with them. I had some left
> over when I made my next batch of ice cream so I threw that into it, and
> it was surprisingly delicious.

I tried making a variety of recipes but the only one they liked was the
banana. My machine was a gift and a stupid one at that. Made 2 servings.
What a lot of work and wasted freezer space for so little output.

My grandma used to make huge amounts all the time. In fact my grandpa owned
an ice cream parlor long before I was born. Her maker was the old wooden
kind that used salt and ice and had to be hand cranked. She used whatever
fruit was ripe from their farm and made the ice cream. Apparently it was
good. There was never any left. I never ate it. Never liked ice cream.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/1/2016 10:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> My guess is that this happens because Tesla driver have got a lot more
>>> money than brains. It's a good thing I don't have a Tesla because I'd
>>> be taking a nap after a couple of miles. Hawaii is probably the most
>>> sleep deprived state in the union. I get around 5 hours of sleep a
>>> night myself - 4 if I got me clothes on. Hee hee.
>>>
>>> https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/271061
>>
>> I am not the best sleeper in the world either.
>>
>
> I sleep like a baby at the drop of a hat. I frequently doze off at work
> and at various public place. I'm an embarrassment to my family I suppose.
> But getting back to the topic:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rK3s_BP9kE

<g>

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On 6/28/2016 10:09 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Not literally. In fact I only buy ice cream a couple of times a year.


Wot you scream for is boy butter.

> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 23:34:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> It is on my other computer. I'll try to remember to post it tomorrow.
>
> <dsi1>
>
> I guess you've never heard of The Cloud? I guess that Clouds are the
> best thing since Google! If I could live in the cloud I guess I would
> be in heaven. I would be an enigma - I guess I would be everywhere,
> but nowhere at all, all at the same time!
>
> <dsi1 off>

Heard of it; don't use it. My other computer can be accessed as long as
there is electricity. The cloud needs an internet connection. Will you
always have 100% up time on the internet?

On 7/2/2016 12:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>
> I didn't know HD's was all egg stabilized but then again I don't even
> consider Haagen Dasz anymore at $5/pint. It's still rare considering
> all the ice cream brands out there. And you really pay it, too.
>
> -sw
>

On sale it is $2.50 to $3. BJ's has half gallons at $10 but only
vanilla and chocolate.

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 12:48:31 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 23:34:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >> It is on my other computer. I'll try to remember to post it tomorrow.
> >
> > <dsi1>
> >
> > I guess you've never heard of The Cloud? I guess that Clouds are the
> > best thing since Google! If I could live in the cloud I guess I would
> > be in heaven. I would be an enigma - I guess I would be everywhere,
> > but nowhere at all, all at the same time!
> >
> > <dsi1 off>
>
> Heard of it; don't use it. My other computer can be accessed as long as
> there is electricity. The cloud needs an internet connection. Will you
> always have 100% up time on the internet?

I don't trust the cloud. It screams "great big security hole" to me.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 4:28:17 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
> On 01/07/2016 3:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 7/1/2016 4:07 PM, Je�us wrote:
> >
> >>>> I don't buy big tubs because from what I have seen here, they are all
> >>>> cheap and nasty ice creams with that foamy mouthfeel, which I hate.
> >>>
> >>> Yep, the makers whip AIR into it!! Air is cheaper than butter and
> >>> cream!!
> >>
> >> It's more than just the air in it. I don't know what the manufacturing
> >> process is, but it comes out nothing like what I expect ice cream to
> >> be.
> >>
> >
> > It has to have some air in it or it would not be icecream. It would be
> > solid frozen milk or cream like eating an ice cube. Premium ice cream
> > has 50% of less overrun. Cheap icecream has 100%.
> >
> > The best vanilla has simple ingredients: cream, sugar, vanilla. Cheap
> > has added things like guar gum, carrageenan, artificial flavors, lots of
> > air.
> >
> > Best are home made and it is getting difficult to find quality ice
> > cream. Years ago Breyers was really good, but they caved in to the
> > quest for profit and it now has all the junk of cheap brands. Ben &
> > Jerry (minimal additives) and Haagen Daz are still decent.
>
> It's also difficult to find heavy cream that has not been adulterated
> with carrageenan (to facilitate whipping, I suppose).
> Graham

Carrageenan does not affect my English Toffee the way guar gum does!! Guar gum gums it all up upon chewing, yuck!! Should be a hard crack clean breakup upon chewing!! I learned this years ago!!

John Kuthe...

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 8:33:37 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 7/1/2016 10:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "dsi1" <dsi1om> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> My guess is that this happens because Tesla driver have got a lot more
> >>> money than brains. It's a good thing I don't have a Tesla because I'd
> >>> be taking a nap after a couple of miles. Hawaii is probably the most
> >>> sleep deprived state in the union. I get around 5 hours of sleep a
> >>> night myself - 4 if I got me clothes on. Hee hee.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/271061
> >>
> >> I am not the best sleeper in the world either.
> >>
> >
> > I sleep like a baby at the drop of a hat. I frequently doze off at work
> > and at various public place. I'm an embarrassment to my family I suppose.
> > But getting back to the topic:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rK3s_BP9kE
>
> Eesh. I know someone who sleeps like that.

It's a talent.

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:49:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 12:48:31 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 23:34:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >
> > >> It is on my other computer. I'll try to remember to post it tomorrow.
> > >
> > > <dsi1>
> > >
> > > I guess you've never heard of The Cloud? I guess that Clouds are the
> > > best thing since Google! If I could live in the cloud I guess I would
> > > be in heaven. I would be an enigma - I guess I would be everywhere,
> > > but nowhere at all, all at the same time!
> > >
> > > <dsi1 off>
> >
> > Heard of it; don't use it. My other computer can be accessed as long as
> > there is electricity. The cloud needs an internet connection. Will you
> > always have 100% up time on the internet?
>
> I don't trust the cloud. It screams "great big security hole" to me.
>

Would you really care if someone steals a recipe you've copied from a
website?

--

sf

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 6:48:31 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 23:34:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >> It is on my other computer. I'll try to remember to post it tomorrow.
> >
> > <dsi1>
> >
> > I guess you've never heard of The Cloud? I guess that Clouds are the
> > best thing since Google! If I could live in the cloud I guess I would
> > be in heaven. I would be an enigma - I guess I would be everywhere,
> > but nowhere at all, all at the same time!
> >
> > <dsi1 off>
>
> Heard of it; don't use it. My other computer can be accessed as long as
> there is electricity. The cloud needs an internet connection. Will you
> always have 100% up time on the internet?

Yikes, the mortals have evoked the name of the Gods again... Local storage is going the way of the steam engine. That's hard for people who grew up during the age of hard drives to accept but time marches on. Obviously, the goal is to not even have to rely on a powerful local processor. Such a "computer" will require a fast wireless broadband connection. We'll get that.

I'm typing this on a nifty ASUS Flip chromebook. The only thing I had to do to set it up was log into my Google account and it synchronized in a few seconds. I don't have to configure anything. That's why it's the future. It even runs Android applications - well, I did have to reconfigure the OS to be able to do that but it's a small price to be able to glimpse a few months into the future.

You guys don't care about Android applications but this development has Microsoft shaking in their boots. Their Windows 10 free upgrade program is due to end at the end of this month - Windows 10 at $110 is going to be a hard sell. They will be forced to change their plans. Contrary to popular belief, MS is not worried about Apple. Their big headache is Chromebooks and Chrome OS and now Chrome/Android. And the beat goes on.

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 12:09:10 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> Yikes, the mortals have evoked the name of the Gods again... Local storage is going the way of the steam engine. That's hard for people who grew up during the age of hard drives to accept but time marches on. Obviously, the goal is to not even have to rely on a powerful local processor. Such a "computer" will require a fast wireless broadband connection. We'll get that.
>
> I'm typing this on a nifty ASUS Flip chromebook. The only thing I had to do to set it up was log into my Google account and it synchronized in a few seconds. I don't have to configure anything. That's why it's the future. It even runs Android applications - well, I did have to reconfigure the OS to be able to do that but it's a small price to be able to glimpse a few months into the future.
>
> You guys don't care about Android applications but this development has Microsoft shaking in their boots. Their Windows 10 free upgrade program is due to end at the end of this month - Windows 10 at $110 is going to be a hard sell. They will be forced to change their plans. Contrary to popular belief, MS is not worried about Apple. Their big headache is Chromebooks and Chrome OS and now Chrome/Android. And the beat goes on.

I love the way everything is synched in the cloud, buy a new phone and
it looks just like the old one with every browser tab (or grocery
list) just the way it was on the old phone after it's set up... but
Google Drive is giving me a hard time. I still haven't got it set up
to be seamless, so it syncs with my computer, which means it stores
copies locally and now I've run out of space on my tiny 128 GB SSD. I
ordered a SanDisk 64 GB class 10 SD card yesterday (for under $20)
from Amazon and I'm hoping I'll be able to find a way to tell GDrive
to sync with the SD card, not the SSD.

On the bright side, we'll have 128 TB (not GB) SSDs by 2018.
http://www.geek.com/chips/toshiba-ha...-2018-1632425/

--

sf

On 7/2/2016 3:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> Yikes, the mortals have evoked the name of the Gods again... Local storage is going the way of the steam engine. That's hard for people who grew up during the age of hard drives to accept but time marches on. Obviously, the goal is to not even have to rely on a powerful local processor. Such a "computer" will require a fast wireless broadband connection. We'll get that.

I can see some benefits of cloud computing for some people, but not for
my everyday use. I've been in places with no internet available and
that would keep me from some basic information.
>
> I'm typing this on a nifty ASUS Flip chromebook. The only thing I had to do to set it up was log into my Google account and it synchronized in a few seconds. I don't have to configure anything. That's why it's the future. It even runs Android applications - well, I did have to reconfigure the OS to be able to do that but it's a small price to be able to glimpse a few months into the future.
>
> You guys don't care about Android applications but this development has Microsoft shaking in their boots. Their Windows 10 free upgrade program is due to end at the end of this month - Windows 10 at $110 is going to be a hard sell. They will be forced to change their plans. Contrary to popular belief, MS is not worried about Apple. Their big headache is Chromebooks and Chrome OS and now Chrome/Android. And the beat goes on.
>
Chromebook may be good. I've not tried one yet but Android on my phone
works ok. My only concern is compatibility with some windows stuff but
I imagine there are work arounds.

I'd get the Asus 11.6". I had a 10" netbook and found the keyboard too
small. Now I use an 11" and it is fine.

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:49:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 12:48:31 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 23:34:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >
>> >> It is on my other computer. I'll try to remember to post it tomorrow.
>> >
>> > <dsi1>
>> >
>> > I guess you've never heard of The Cloud? I guess that Clouds are the
>> > best thing since Google! If I could live in the cloud I guess I would
>> > be in heaven. I would be an enigma - I guess I would be everywhere,
>> > but nowhere at all, all at the same time!
>> >
>> > <dsi1 off>
>>
>> Heard of it; don't use it. My other computer can be accessed as long as
>> there is electricity. The cloud needs an internet connection. Will you
>> always have 100% up time on the internet?
>
>I don't trust the cloud. It screams "great big security hole" to me.

Agreed. It's convenient but aside from that it's just asking for
trouble at some point IMO.

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:

> I love the way everything is synched in the cloud, buy a new phone and
> it looks just like the old one with every browser tab (or grocery
> list) just the way it was on the old phone after it's set up...

It's clear that you use your phone vastly differently from the way I
use mine. I have 5 contacts in my list, one app (Solitaire, for
when the grocery store line is exceedingly long). I vanishingly
rarely use the browser or any of that other stuff it came with.
I generally do the driving and leave the looking-stuff-up to
my husband.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:25:12 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/1/2016 4:07 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>>> I don't buy big tubs because from what I have seen here, they are all
>>>> cheap and nasty ice creams with that foamy mouthfeel, which I hate.
>>>
>>> Yep, the makers whip AIR into it!! Air is cheaper than butter and cream!!
>>
>> It's more than just the air in it. I don't know what the manufacturing
>> process is, but it comes out nothing like what I expect ice cream to
>> be.
>>
>
>It has to have some air in it or it would not be icecream.

True, the question is how much is enough.

>It would be
>solid frozen milk or cream like eating an ice cube. Premium ice cream
>has 50% of less overrun. Cheap icecream has 100%.
>
>The best vanilla has simple ingredients: cream, sugar, vanilla. Cheap
>has added things like guar gum, carrageenan, artificial flavors, lots of
>air.
>
>Best are home made and it is getting difficult to find quality ice
>cream. Years ago Breyers was really good, but they caved in to the
>quest for profit and it now has all the junk of cheap brands. Ben &
>Jerry (minimal additives) and Haagen Daz are still decent.

I have to drive about 2 hours to get to the one really good place that
I know about.

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 9:34:44 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 12:09:10 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yikes, the mortals have evoked the name of the Gods again... Local storage is going the way of the steam engine. That's hard for people who grew up during the age of hard drives to accept but time marches on. Obviously, the goal is to not even have to rely on a powerful local processor. Such a "computer" will require a fast wireless broadband connection. We'll get that.
> >
> > I'm typing this on a nifty ASUS Flip chromebook. The only thing I had to do to set it up was log into my Google account and it synchronized in a few seconds. I don't have to configure anything. That's why it's the future. It even runs Android applications - well, I did have to reconfigure the OS to be able to do that but it's a small price to be able to glimpse a few months into the future.
> >
> > You guys don't care about Android applications but this development has Microsoft shaking in their boots. Their Windows 10 free upgrade program is due to end at the end of this month - Windows 10 at $110 is going to be a hard sell. They will be forced to change their plans. Contrary to popular belief, MS is not worried about Apple. Their big headache is Chromebooks and Chrome OS and now Chrome/Android. And the beat goes on.
>
> I love the way everything is synched in the cloud, buy a new phone and
> it looks just like the old one with every browser tab (or grocery
> list) just the way it was on the old phone after it's set up... but
> Google Drive is giving me a hard time. I still haven't got it set up
> to be seamless, so it syncs with my computer, which means it stores
> copies locally and now I've run out of space on my tiny 128 GB SSD. I
> ordered a SanDisk 64 GB class 10 SD card yesterday (for under $20)
> from Amazon and I'm hoping I'll be able to find a way to tell GDrive
> to sync with the SD card, not the SSD.
>
> On the bright side, we'll have 128 TB (not GB) SSDs by 2018.
> http://www.geek.com/chips/toshiba-ha...-2018-1632425/
>
> --
>
> sf

Portability of data has always been desirable. It's why we have floppy disks, and optical disks, and USB drives. These days we no longer need those thing. OTOH, there's still some need for these huge storage devices. I wouldn't think there would be but then, they exist or will exist.

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 9:40:41 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/2/2016 3:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
> > Yikes, the mortals have evoked the name of the Gods again... Local storage is going the way of the steam engine. That's hard for people who grew up during the age of hard drives to accept but time marches on. Obviously, the goal is to not even have to rely on a powerful local processor. Such a "computer" will require a fast wireless broadband connection. We'll get that..
>
> I can see some benefits of cloud computing for some people, but not for
> my everyday use. I've been in places with no internet available and
> that would keep me from some basic information.

People were distrustful of Wifi a decade ago but now days it's pretty much the way we get connected. Cloud servers for enterprise use is at a tipping point. In the next few years it's going to be the way we do business. Well that's my guess.

> >
> > I'm typing this on a nifty ASUS Flip chromebook. The only thing I had to do to set it up was log into my Google account and it synchronized in a few seconds. I don't have to configure anything. That's why it's the future. It even runs Android applications - well, I did have to reconfigure the OS to be able to do that but it's a small price to be able to glimpse a few months into the future.
> >
> > You guys don't care about Android applications but this development has Microsoft shaking in their boots. Their Windows 10 free upgrade program is due to end at the end of this month - Windows 10 at $110 is going to be a hard sell. They will be forced to change their plans. Contrary to popular belief, MS is not worried about Apple. Their big headache is Chromebooks and Chrome OS and now Chrome/Android. And the beat goes on.
> >
> Chromebook may be good. I've not tried one yet but Android on my phone
> works ok. My only concern is compatibility with some windows stuff but
> I imagine there are work arounds.
>
> I'd get the Asus 11.6". I had a 10" netbook and found the keyboard too
> small. Now I use an 11" and it is fine.

I have a 10" ASUS convertable Win 10 machine. I find that keyboard too small also. The 10" Chromebook I have now seems OK. Why that would be is a mystery. I shall investigate.

I'd like to wash my hands of Windows forever but I need the Windows to program electronic gizmos. My life would be a lot easier if the manufacturers created Android or Chromebook apps to do these tasks instead.

https://www.engadget.com/2015/07/23/...k-flip-review/

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 14:54:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 9:34:44 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 12:09:10 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yikes, the mortals have evoked the name of the Gods again... Local storage is going the way of the steam engine. That's hard for people who grew up during the age of hard drives to accept but time marches on. Obviously, the goal is to not even have to rely on a powerful local processor. Such a "computer" will require a fast wireless broadband connection. We'll get that.
> > >
> > > I'm typing this on a nifty ASUS Flip chromebook. The only thing I had to do to set it up was log into my Google account and it synchronized in a few seconds. I don't have to configure anything. That's why it's the future. It even runs Android applications - well, I did have to reconfigure the OS to be able to do that but it's a small price to be able to glimpse a few months into the future.
> > >
> > > You guys don't care about Android applications but this development has Microsoft shaking in their boots. Their Windows 10 free upgrade program is due to end at the end of this month - Windows 10 at $110 is going to be a hard sell. They will be forced to change their plans. Contrary to popular belief, MS is not worried about Apple. Their big headache is Chromebooks and Chrome OS and now Chrome/Android. And the beat goes on.
> >
> > I love the way everything is synched in the cloud, buy a new phone and
> > it looks just like the old one with every browser tab (or grocery
> > list) just the way it was on the old phone after it's set up... but
> > Google Drive is giving me a hard time. I still haven't got it set up
> > to be seamless, so it syncs with my computer, which means it stores
> > copies locally and now I've run out of space on my tiny 128 GB SSD. I
> > ordered a SanDisk 64 GB class 10 SD card yesterday (for under $20)
> > from Amazon and I'm hoping I'll be able to find a way to tell GDrive
> > to sync with the SD card, not the SSD.
> >
> > On the bright side, we'll have 128 TB (not GB) SSDs by 2018.
> > http://www.geek.com/chips/toshiba-ha...-2018-1632425/
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf
>
> Portability of data has always been desirable. It's why we have floppy disks, and optical disks, and USB drives. These days we no longer need those thing. OTOH, there's still some need for these huge storage devices. I wouldn't think there would be but then, they exist or will exist.

In the mean time, 128 GB simply isn't enough even with cloud storage.

--

sf

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 4:57:21 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 14:54:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1om>
> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 9:34:44 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 12:09:10 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yikes, the mortals have evoked the name of the Gods again... Local storage is going the way of the steam engine. That's hard for people who grew up during the age of hard drives to accept but time marches on. Obviously, the goal is to not even have to rely on a powerful local processor. Such a "computer" will require a fast wireless broadband connection. We'll get that.
> > > >
> > > > I'm typing this on a nifty ASUS Flip chromebook. The only thing I had to do to set it up was log into my Google account and it synchronized in a few seconds. I don't have to configure anything. That's why it's the future. It even runs Android applications - well, I did have to reconfigure the OS to be able to do that but it's a small price to be able to glimpse a few months into the future.
> > > >
> > > > You guys don't care about Android applications but this development has Microsoft shaking in their boots. Their Windows 10 free upgrade program is due to end at the end of this month - Windows 10 at $110 is going to be a hard sell. They will be forced to change their plans. Contrary to popular belief, MS is not worried about Apple. Their big headache is Chromebooks and Chrome OS and now Chrome/Android. And the beat goes on.
> > >
> > > I love the way everything is synched in the cloud, buy a new phone and
> > > it looks just like the old one with every browser tab (or grocery
> > > list) just the way it was on the old phone after it's set up... but
> > > Google Drive is giving me a hard time. I still haven't got it set up
> > > to be seamless, so it syncs with my computer, which means it stores
> > > copies locally and now I've run out of space on my tiny 128 GB SSD. I
> > > ordered a SanDisk 64 GB class 10 SD card yesterday (for under $20)
> > > from Amazon and I'm hoping I'll be able to find a way to tell GDrive
> > > to sync with the SD card, not the SSD.
> > >
> > > On the bright side, we'll have 128 TB (not GB) SSDs by 2018.
> > > http://www.geek.com/chips/toshiba-ha...-2018-1632425/
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > sf
> >
> > Portability of data has always been desirable. It's why we have floppy disks, and optical disks, and USB drives. These days we no longer need those thing. OTOH, there's still some need for these huge storage devices. I wouldn't think there would be but then, they exist or will exist.
>
> In the mean time, 128 GB simply isn't enough even with cloud storage.
>
> --
>
> sf

I suppose you're right about that. 128GB would be enough for me so I just use free storage from the usual providers.