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On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> has now decided we need his advice ...
>
How fortunate you are to have such a powerful pol to advise your country on such important matters.
I'm sure that it will be sage advice and quite timely as well as the situation "over there" has become very problematic.
May you sleep well tonight knowing that things will be better as time goes on.
=====

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>>
> How fortunate you are to have such a powerful pol to advise your country
> on such important matters.
> I'm sure that it will be sage advice and quite timely as well as the
> situation "over there" has become very problematic.
> May you sleep well tonight knowing that things will be better as time goes
> on.
> =====

Yers. How lucky we are ...


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
>>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>>>
>> How fortunate you are to have such a powerful pol to advise your country
>> on such important matters.
>> I'm sure that it will be sage advice and quite timely as well as the
>> situation "over there" has become very problematic.
>> May you sleep well tonight knowing that things will be better as time
>> goes on.
>> =====
>
> Yers. How lucky we are ...

I don't think a lot of people take him seriously here, so why would you? LOL

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>>>>
>>> How fortunate you are to have such a powerful pol to advise your country
>>> on such important matters.
>>> I'm sure that it will be sage advice and quite timely as well as the
>>> situation "over there" has become very problematic.
>>> May you sleep well tonight knowing that things will be better as time
>>> goes on.
>>> =====
>>
>> Yers. How lucky we are ...
>
> I don't think a lot of people take him seriously here, so why would you?
> LOL

I can't think WHAT you mean .... ;-)


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On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 8:51:27 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> has now decided we need his advice ...

My advice: ignore his advice.

Oh, wait... Ignore my advice; pay attention to Kerry's.

Strike that. Pay attention to my advice; ignore Kerry's.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia wrote:


> has now decided we need his advice ...


All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter should go get stuffed, Ms. O....

UK folks got tired of being lectured by their "betters", and that was a huge factor in the Brexiters winning...

This holds "lessons" for those here in the States who are following a similar path...our "betters" should beware that the "common folk" DO have a vote!

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 8:51:27 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>
> My advice: ignore his advice.
>
> Oh, wait... Ignore my advice; pay attention to Kerry's.
>
> Strike that. Pay attention to my advice; ignore Kerry's.
>
> Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
>

Well I know you better than I know him, and I don't really know you <g>
soooooooooo ....


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"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>
>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>
>
> All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter should
> go get stuffed, Ms. O....
>
> UK folks got tired of being lectured by their "betters", and that was a
> huge factor in the Brexiters winning...
>
> This holds "lessons" for those here in the States who are following a
> similar path...our "betters" should beware that the "common folk" DO have
> a vote!

Well said, Greg! In my opinion, you have all that spot on! Thank you


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"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>
>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>
>
> All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter should
> go get stuffed, Ms. O....

That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
elections, totally ignored.

Cheri

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:01:53 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>>
>>
>> All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter should
>> go get stuffed, Ms. O....
>
>That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
>elections, totally ignored.
>
>Cheri

I don't consider Kerry an American

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:01:53 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
...
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>>>
>>>
>>> All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter
>>> should
>>> go get stuffed, Ms. O....
>>
>>That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
>>elections, totally ignored.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> I don't consider Kerry an American

It is a stretch.

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "The Greatest!" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> >> has now decided we need his advice ...
> >
> >
> > All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter should
> > go get stuffed, Ms. O....
>
> That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
> elections, totally ignored.

Are you saying I've been wasting my time all these years?

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "The Greatest!" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>>
>>
>> All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter should
>> go get stuffed, Ms. O....
>
> That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
> elections, totally ignored.
>

Too right.

Read these if you are interested ...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-david-cameron

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/nor...iser-1-7233120


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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:01:53 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter
>>>> should
>>>> go get stuffed, Ms. O....
>>>
>>>That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
>>>elections, totally ignored.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> I don't consider Kerry an American
>
> It is a stretch.

What is he?

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "The Greatest!" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> has now decided we need his advice ...
>> >
>> >
>> > All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter
>> > should
>> > go get stuffed, Ms. O....
>>
>> That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
>> elections, totally ignored.
>
> Are you saying I've been wasting my time all these years?

LOL

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Bruce wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > "The Greatest!" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> has now decided we need his advice ...
> > >
> > >
> > > All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter should
> > > go get stuffed, Ms. O....
> >
> > That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
> > elections, totally ignored.
>
> Are you saying I've been wasting my time all these years?

Pretty much. :-D

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:51:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>has now decided we need his advice ...

I'm curious Ophelia...did the United States Secretary of State have a
solution to the UK's problems with the EU? You know, he is a former US
Senator, he is married to the lady who inherited a huge Ketchup
company, H.J. Heinz in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I am hopeful that he
provided you with a solution to Brexit. If not, he sure wasted alot of
my tax money flying that government airliner from Washington to
London.

William

On 2016-06-30 6:31 PM, William wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:51:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>
> I'm curious Ophelia...did the United States Secretary of State have a
> solution to the UK's problems with the EU? You know, he is a former US
> Senator, he is married to the lady who inherited a huge Ketchup
> company, H.J. Heinz in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I am hopeful that he
> provided you with a solution to Brexit. If not, he sure wasted alot of
> my tax money flying that government airliner from Washington to
> London.
>

Beats me why we would expect someone who married someone who inherited a
fortune to know much about business.

In article >, says...
>
> On 2016-06-30 6:31 PM, William wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:51:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> has now decided we need his advice ...
> >
> > I'm curious Ophelia...did the United States Secretary of State have a
> > solution to the UK's problems with the EU? You know, he is a former US
> > Senator, he is married to the lady who inherited a huge Ketchup
> > company, H.J. Heinz in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I am hopeful that he
> > provided you with a solution to Brexit. If not, he sure wasted alot of
> > my tax money flying that government airliner from Washington to
> > London.
> >
>
> Beats me why we would expect someone who married someone who inherited a
> fortune to know much about business.

It means he's good at strategy.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:31:11 -0400, William > wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:51:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>has now decided we need his advice ...
>
>I'm curious Ophelia...did the United States Secretary of State have a
>solution to the UK's problems with the EU? You know, he is a former US
>Senator, he is married to the lady who inherited a huge Ketchup
>company, H.J. Heinz in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I am hopeful that he
>provided you with a solution to Brexit. If not, he sure wasted alot of
>my tax money flying that government airliner from Washington to
>London.
>
>William

I only buy French's ketchup now - Heinz dumped the Ontario farmers who
produced tomatoes for them without any warning. Thankfully French,
deciding they should have a ketchup, bought up all their products.
Yeah French!

"William" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:51:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>has now decided we need his advice ...
>
> I'm curious Ophelia...did the United States Secretary of State have a
> solution to the UK's problems with the EU? You know, he is a former US
> Senator, he is married to the lady who inherited a huge Ketchup
> company, H.J. Heinz in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I am hopeful that he
> provided you with a solution to Brexit. If not, he sure wasted alot of
> my tax money flying that government airliner from Washington to
> London.
>

Surely you jest???


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On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 05:55:52 -0400 (EDT), Cheryl
> wrote:

Wrote in message:
>
>>
>> I only buy French's ketchup now - Heinz dumped the Ontario farmers who
>> produced tomatoes for them without any warning. Thankfully French,
>> deciding they should have a ketchup, bought up all their products.
>> Yeah French!
>>
>
>French's ketchup is horrible. In my opinion it is sweeter than any of the others out there on the market. I grilled a burger the other day and used some and the flavor of my whole burger was off. I'm not sure what I'll use now. Anyone have a less sweet recipe for homemade ketchup?

It's rare I cook fries and that is the only thing I use ketchup on, so
I don't use much but it was the suddeness with which Heinz closed the
plant, no prior warning to all their farmers who only grew tomatoes
for them. So Heinz are now using Mexican tomatoes, not sure I trust
their water supplies too much

Lucretia, it is not only the Mexican farms' water, but their fertilizer.
Some recalls in the past of fresh produce have been because of
e-coli....

N.

On 7/1/2016 4:55 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> Wrote in message:
>
>>
>> I only buy French's ketchup now - Heinz dumped the Ontario farmers who
>> produced tomatoes for them without any warning. Thankfully French,
>> deciding they should have a ketchup, bought up all their products.
>> Yeah French!
>>
>
> French's ketchup is horrible. In my opinion it is sweeter than any of the others out there on the market. I grilled a burger the other day and used some and the flavor of my whole burger was off. I'm not sure what I'll use now. Anyone have a less sweet recipe for homemade ketchup?
>
>
This is the recipe I use. I use it mainly for cooking so I don't know
how it would stack up against what you are used to eating. But you can
control the amount of sugar in it.

Homemade Ketchup
1 (28- to 32-oz) can whole tomatoes in juice
1 medium onion, chopped
4 garlic cloves, chopped
2 Tbsp vegetable oil
1/2 tsp salt
1/2 tsp pepper
1 tsp chili powder
1/2 tsp paprika
1/4 tsp cinnamon
1/4 tsp ground allspice
1 Tbsp tomato paste
salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste
1 whole star anise (optional and my addition based on my misreading the
recipe the first time I made it)
1/2 cup packed light brown sugar
1/2 cup cider vinegar

Purée tomatoes with juice in the can with a stick blender until smooth
(or use regular blender).

Heat oil in a 4-quart heavy pot. Add onion, garlic and salt and cook,
stirring occasionally, until the onion is browned

Add the spices and cook, stirring constantly, for 1 minute. Add the
pureed tomato, tomato paste, brown sugar, and vinegar. Bring to a boil,
immediately lower the heat and cook uncovered until very thick, 45 to 55
minutes. Stir occasionally, making sure the liquid doesn't stick to the
bottom of the pan.

Puree everything together with a stick or a regular blender. Let cool
and pour into a glass container. Refrigerate.

Keeps chilled approximately 1 month. (I freeze it; it is soft enough
that I can spoon out what I need and it defrosts quickly.)

Adapted from recipe by Ian Knauer from Gourmet Magazine (June 2009)

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:15:47 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"William" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:51:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>has now decided we need his advice ...
>>
>> I'm curious Ophelia...did the United States Secretary of State have a
>> solution to the UK's problems with the EU? You know, he is a former US
>> Senator, he is married to the lady who inherited a huge Ketchup
>> company, H.J. Heinz in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I am hopeful that he
>> provided you with a solution to Brexit. If not, he sure wasted alot of
>> my tax money flying that government airliner from Washington to
>> London.
>>
>
>Surely you jest???

Did you hear anything or read anything in the news that described the
purpose of his visit? Did he think he was going to mediate an argument
between UK and EU?

I rather think he was just ****ing away US taxpayer money doing
nothing but flying to London for Tea Time.

William

On 2016-07-01 5:55 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> Wrote in message:

> French's ketchup is horrible. In my opinion it is sweeter than any of
> the others out there on the market. I grilled a burger the other day
> and used some and the flavor of my whole burger was off. I'm not sure
> what I'll use now. Anyone have a less sweet recipe for homemade
> ketchup?


Darn. I hate to hear that. I have a couple issues with ketchup. I never
was really big into ketchup, but I remember it tasting a lot better when
I was a kid. I remember the Heinz ads of the 70s <?> where they used
Carly Simon's "Anticipation" to emphasize how thick it was. Now it is
thin and watery. I had been looking for something better. Then there
was the issue of Heinz pulling out of their southern Ontario plant,
leaving local farmers without anyone to buy and process their tomatoes
until French's set up shop.

Next came the issue of a major grocery chain not carrying French's. I
had been intending to get some. Then one day I was searching for
something in the pantry and came across a jar of French's ketchup. I
guess I must have bought it some time ago when I was looking for
something better than Heinz. That was about two months ago and there is
still some Bodacious ketchup left. At the rate I use the stuff, it may
be well aged before I actually open it.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 05:33:57 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

> Lucretia, it is not only the Mexican farms' water, but their fertilizer.
> Some recalls in the past of fresh produce have been because of
> e-coli....
>
>
For e-coli, I'd blame producers for not washing the tomatoes properly
before they started turning them into ketchup.

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On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 05:33:57 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Lucretia, it is not only the Mexican farms' water, but their fertilizer.
>Some recalls in the past of fresh produce have been because of
>e-coli....
>
>N.

We were flooded with Mexican tomatoes this past winter and I
complained to the supermarket that they should buy local, it really
aggravated me the carrots were also from Mexico when a farmer on PEI
produces some of the best carrots I have ever eaten, so I also asked
them to put his back on the shelf.

I know they track me (because of my air miles card) so I made a point
of not buying either

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:36:24 -0500, dejamos >
wrote:

>On 7/1/2016 4:55 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> Wrote in message:
>>
>>>
>>> I only buy French's ketchup now - Heinz dumped the Ontario farmers who
>>> produced tomatoes for them without any warning. Thankfully French,
>>> deciding they should have a ketchup, bought up all their products.
>>> Yeah French!
>>>
>>
>> French's ketchup is horrible. In my opinion it is sweeter than any of the others out there on the market. I grilled a burger the other day and used some and the flavor of my whole burger was off. I'm not sure what I'll use now. Anyone have a less sweet recipe for homemade ketchup?
>>
>>
>This is the recipe I use. I use it mainly for cooking so I don't know
>how it would stack up against what you are used to eating. But you can
>control the amount of sugar in it.
>
>Homemade Ketchup
>1 (28- to 32-oz) can whole tomatoes in juice
>1 medium onion, chopped
>4 garlic cloves, chopped
>2 Tbsp vegetable oil
>1/2 tsp salt
>1/2 tsp pepper
>1 tsp chili powder
>1/2 tsp paprika
>1/4 tsp cinnamon
>1/4 tsp ground allspice
>1 Tbsp tomato paste
>salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste
>1 whole star anise (optional and my addition based on my misreading the
>recipe the first time I made it)
>1/2 cup packed light brown sugar
>1/2 cup cider vinegar
>
>Purée tomatoes with juice in the can with a stick blender until smooth
>(or use regular blender).
>
>Heat oil in a 4-quart heavy pot. Add onion, garlic and salt and cook,
>stirring occasionally, until the onion is browned
>
>Add the spices and cook, stirring constantly, for 1 minute. Add the
>pureed tomato, tomato paste, brown sugar, and vinegar. Bring to a boil,
>immediately lower the heat and cook uncovered until very thick, 45 to 55
>minutes. Stir occasionally, making sure the liquid doesn't stick to the
>bottom of the pan.
>
>Puree everything together with a stick or a regular blender. Let cool
>and pour into a glass container. Refrigerate.
>
>Keeps chilled approximately 1 month. (I freeze it; it is soft enough
>that I can spoon out what I need and it defrosts quickly.)
>
>Adapted from recipe by Ian Knauer from Gourmet Magazine (June 2009)

Sounds good, that was more or less how my mother made it in Spain when
the tomatoes grew faster than their usage

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:23:19 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-07-01 5:55 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> Wrote in message:
>
>> French's ketchup is horrible. In my opinion it is sweeter than any of
>> the others out there on the market. I grilled a burger the other day
>> and used some and the flavor of my whole burger was off. I'm not sure
>> what I'll use now. Anyone have a less sweet recipe for homemade
>> ketchup?
>
>
>Darn. I hate to hear that. I have a couple issues with ketchup. I never
>was really big into ketchup, but I remember it tasting a lot better when
>I was a kid. I remember the Heinz ads of the 70s <?> where they used
>Carly Simon's "Anticipation" to emphasize how thick it was. Now it is
>thin and watery. I had been looking for something better. Then there
>was the issue of Heinz pulling out of their southern Ontario plant,
>leaving local farmers without anyone to buy and process their tomatoes
>until French's set up shop.
>
>Next came the issue of a major grocery chain not carrying French's. I
>had been intending to get some. Then one day I was searching for
>something in the pantry and came across a jar of French's ketchup. I
>guess I must have bought it some time ago when I was looking for
>something better than Heinz. That was about two months ago and there is
>still some Bodacious ketchup left. At the rate I use the stuff, it may
>be well aged before I actually open it.

Sobeys carries Frenchs Ketchup, it's where I bought mine.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:23:19 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2016-07-01 5:55 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> > Wrote in message:
>
> > French's ketchup is horrible. In my opinion it is sweeter than any of
> > the others out there on the market. I grilled a burger the other day
> > and used some and the flavor of my whole burger was off. I'm not sure
> > what I'll use now. Anyone have a less sweet recipe for homemade
> > ketchup?
>
>
> Darn. I hate to hear that. I have a couple issues with ketchup. I never
> was really big into ketchup, but I remember it tasting a lot better when
> I was a kid. I remember the Heinz ads of the 70s <?> where they used
> Carly Simon's "Anticipation" to emphasize how thick it was. Now it is
> thin and watery. I had been looking for something better. Then there
> was the issue of Heinz pulling out of their southern Ontario plant,
> leaving local farmers without anyone to buy and process their tomatoes
> until French's set up shop.
>
> Next came the issue of a major grocery chain not carrying French's. I
> had been intending to get some. Then one day I was searching for
> something in the pantry and came across a jar of French's ketchup. I
> guess I must have bought it some time ago when I was looking for
> something better than Heinz. That was about two months ago and there is
> still some Bodacious ketchup left. At the rate I use the stuff, it may
> be well aged before I actually open it.

Have you tried Sir Kensington yet? I don't eat ketchup with a spoon,
so I don't think Simply Heinz is too sweet. Bought the one Gary
recommended, but haven't opened it yet to compare.

--

sf

On 2016-07-01 10:38 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 05:33:57 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>> Lucretia, it is not only the Mexican farms' water, but their fertilizer.
>> Some recalls in the past of fresh produce have been because of
>> e-coli....
>>
>>
> For e-coli, I'd blame producers for not washing the tomatoes properly
> before they started turning them into ketchup.
>


E coli is in the water and tomatoes are mostly water, so it will be
inside. FWIW... salmonella seems to be a much bigger problem with them,
and washing the outside does not help. However, ketchup is made from
tomato paste, so it has already been well boiled.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:15:47 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"William" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:51:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>has now decided we need his advice ...
> >>
> >> I'm curious Ophelia...did the United States Secretary of State have a
> >> solution to the UK's problems with the EU? You know, he is a former US
> >> Senator, he is married to the lady who inherited a huge Ketchup
> >> company, H.J. Heinz in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I am hopeful that he
> >> provided you with a solution to Brexit. If not, he sure wasted alot of
> >> my tax money flying that government airliner from Washington to
> >> London.
> >>
> >
> >Surely you jest???
>
> Did you hear anything or read anything in the news that described the
> purpose of his visit? Did he think he was going to mediate an argument
> between UK and EU?
>
> I rather think he was just ****ing away US taxpayer money doing
> nothing but flying to London for Tea Time.

The US wants Europe as united as possible for geopolitical reasons. A
united ally against Russia, terrorism etc. is more efficient than a
divided one. I'm not saying the US should interfere in the Brexit thing,
but that's why they do.

On 07/01/2016 05:36 AM, dejamos wrote:
> On 7/1/2016 4:55 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> Wrote in message:
>>
>>>
>>> I only buy French's ketchup now - Heinz dumped the Ontario farmers who
>>> produced tomatoes for them without any warning. Thankfully French,
>>> deciding they should have a ketchup, bought up all their products.
>>> Yeah French!
>>>
>>
>> French's ketchup is horrible. In my opinion it is sweeter than any of
>> the others out there on the market. I grilled a burger the other day
>> and used some and the flavor of my whole burger was off. I'm not sure
>> what I'll use now. Anyone have a less sweet recipe for homemade ketchup?
>>
>>
> This is the recipe I use. I use it mainly for cooking so I don't know
> how it would stack up against what you are used to eating. But you can
> control the amount of sugar in it.
>
> Homemade Ketchup
> 1 (28- to 32-oz) can whole tomatoes in juice
> 1 medium onion, chopped
> 4 garlic cloves, chopped
> 2 Tbsp vegetable oil
> 1/2 tsp salt
> 1/2 tsp pepper
> 1 tsp chili powder
> 1/2 tsp paprika
> 1/4 tsp cinnamon
> 1/4 tsp ground allspice
> 1 Tbsp tomato paste
> salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste
> 1 whole star anise (optional and my addition based on my misreading the
> recipe the first time I made it)
> 1/2 cup packed light brown sugar
> 1/2 cup cider vinegar
>
> Purée tomatoes with juice in the can with a stick blender until smooth
> (or use regular blender).
>
> Heat oil in a 4-quart heavy pot. Add onion, garlic and salt and cook,
> stirring occasionally, until the onion is browned
>
> Add the spices and cook, stirring constantly, for 1 minute. Add the
> pureed tomato, tomato paste, brown sugar, and vinegar. Bring to a boil,
> immediately lower the heat and cook uncovered until very thick, 45 to 55
> minutes. Stir occasionally, making sure the liquid doesn't stick to the
> bottom of the pan.
>
> Puree everything together with a stick or a regular blender. Let cool
> and pour into a glass container. Refrigerate.
>
> Keeps chilled approximately 1 month. (I freeze it; it is soft enough
> that I can spoon out what I need and it defrosts quickly.)
>
> Adapted from recipe by Ian Knauer from Gourmet Magazine (June 2009)

I found the original recipe on the Epicurious web site. Same author,
very similar wording, same recipe, except for the anise. It had a solid
4 out of 4 forks rating and 17 reviews. A couple of reviews thought that
this really couldn't be called ketchup. On a hunch, I looked up the USDA
ketchup canning recipe at the National Center for Home Food Preservation
at the University of Georgia, figuring that, if anybody knows American
ketchup, the USDA probably does. To my surprise, it had the same list of
ingredients, spices and all, as the Knauer recipe at Epicurious, in
approximately the same proportions.

The main difference was that the USDA recipe started with 24 pounds of
fresh tomatoes and produced 6 to 7 pints of ketchup, ready to place on
the pantry shelf. One other difference is that the USDA recipe says to
put the dry spices in a spice bag, toss it in with the vinegar, heat it
to a boil, and when it boils, pull out the spice bag and discard it. Use
only the flavored vinegar in the recipe.

I think the recipe produces an authentic American ketchup, but it's not
a clone of the Heinz recipe as some may expect. Apparently, Knauer or
somebody cut down the USDA recipe to make a much smaller amount using
canned tomatoes and got it published in _Gourmet_. They didn't adjust
the spices, however.

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>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
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>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>> has now decided we need his advice ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter
>>>>> should
>>>>> go get stuffed, Ms. O....
>>>>
>>>>That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
>>>>elections, totally ignored.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> I don't consider Kerry an American
>>
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>
> What is he?

I'm pretty sure he's French

tert in seattle wrote:


> Ophelia wrote:
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> >>
> >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> >>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:01:53 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>> Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> has now decided we need his advice ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All these foreigners giving the UK "advice" an internal matter
> >>>>> should
> >>>>> go get stuffed, Ms. O....
> >>>>
> >>>>That's the way I feel about foreigners giving advice to the USA over our
> >>>>elections, totally ignored.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheri
> >>>
> >>> I don't consider Kerry an American
> >>
> >> It is a stretch.
> >
> > What is he?
>
> I'm pretty sure he's French



He's also the father of Michael Phelps...


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