On 7/14/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-07-14 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 5:52:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>
>> Agreed. Sometimes I think that religion is a fine thing for those
>> who need it; other times I think it's the most pernicious evil
>> that Homo sapiens has perpetrated upon itself.
>
>
> Some people get carried away with it. I have said in the past that I
> think addiction is often more of a habit than a physical addiction. A
> lot of alcoholics and drug addicts find their way out of their addiction
> through religion, but then go overboard on the religion.
>
>
I may be mistaken but I believe Alcoholics Anonymous uses some sort of
pledge to God as part of their 12 step program. Ah yes, I looked it up.
It's called the Serenity prayer. I guess that means atheists can't
join.

Jill

In article >, says...
>
> On 2016-07-13 7:51 PM, wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:29:09 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2016-07-13 7:04 PM, wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:15:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2016-07-13 6:02 PM, wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Or tries to influence government policies/laws to reflect their
> >>>>>> religious doctrines!
> >>>>>> Graham
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NS used to be ruled by what the churches wanted, when we came in 1967
> >>>>> the schools were divided into RC, Protestant and the rest! Finally
> >>>>> ended midnight 1979/80.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Consider yourself lucky. Catholics have traditionally been supporters of
> >>>> the Liberal party in Ontario and there was a push for "equality in
> >>>> education" back in the 1980s. The PCs had been in power for years, but
> >>>> when it looked like they might lose an election on the issue they caved
> >>>> and granted full funding to Catholic boards right up to Gr. 13, though
> >>>> nothing ever stopped them from going to public schools.
> >>>
> >>> I didn't understand what my neighbour meant when she said to me "The
> >>> schools are segregated so it will depend which ones your children go
> >>> to" - I of course thought she meant by colour and my heart sank,
> >>
> >> Of course you would think that.
> >
> > Yes, of course I would! Having lived in many countries I had never
> > encountered such an antiquated idea as dividing schools by religion!
>
>
> Many countries have faith based schools. The US has parochial school.
> The UK has faith schools.

Originally, it was churches or religious groups who founded (and
funded) many of the schools in the UK so a great many older schools
still have a church connection.

Janet UK

"Allen Prunty" > wrote in message
...
> On 07/13/16, Ophelia said the following...
>
> Op> Well that certainly is much better than having the homeless setting up
> Op> camp in supermarket car parks.
> Op>
> Op> It sounds like a wonderful operation and any homeless who end up there
> Op> are very lucky in comparison to many others I read about.
>
> The problem is that other large cities know Louisville has so many
> programs
> and shelters here... instead of getting their own programs for the
> homeless
> they get them greyhound tickets and put them on the bus send them to
> Louisville. Our city truly is overburdened by the homeless. Many
> shelters
> put them out on the streets at 7am and won't let them back in until
> sundown.
> They don't stay at the same shelter two days in a row the shelters do this
> to
> keep them from establishing permanent residency at 30 days.
>
> We keep getting more and more of them and we have filled two cemeteries
> for
> the indigent because they come here to die. It is a burden on our medical
> system too.

If they can prove where they came from, can they not charge the authorities
of that area for the care of their people?


>
> If other cities would do what we do instead of shipping them here it woudl
> be
> great. I do volunteer for the soup kitchens and have some delicious soup
> recipes that feed the masses I could post if anyone is interested.

Yes, that would be interesting, thank you


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On 2016-07-14 9:58 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:24:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:

> The churches are losing their powers here now (mostly because of
> declining interest and congregations)

Thank goodness.

> and that's why Sunday Shopping
> was allowed about five years ago now.

They were late in joining the trend. Personally, I prefer that stores
and businesses be closed on Sundays so that we can have a common day
off. We had blue laws here for a long time that prohibited stores from
opening on Sundays, but I live near the border and stores in in New York
state started opening on Sundays and people flocked across the border on
their Sunday off. Money they spent in the US was money not being spent
here in Ontario so the local merchants lobbied to be allowed to open on
Sundays.


> There's a Coptic Church near here and whatever they do, they must be
> doing it right. Car park is full, street parking all taken and they
> are taking over another big Protestant church and rebuilding it to
> accommodate their congregation. All the rest are dwindling fast.

Around here it is the Dutch churches. Their members are expected to
attended regularly and they face a lot of hassles if they don't. I
remember my Catholic friends telling me that missing mass was a mortal
sin. Some religions use a lot of coercion to prevent their members from
straying. It is part of their system of indoctrination.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:54:41 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2016-07-13 7:51 PM, wrote:
> >> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:29:09 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2016-07-13 7:04 PM, wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:15:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2016-07-13 6:02 PM, wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Or tries to influence government policies/laws to reflect their
> >>>>>>> religious doctrines!
> >>>>>>> Graham
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> NS used to be ruled by what the churches wanted, when we came in 1967
> >>>>>> the schools were divided into RC, Protestant and the rest! Finally
> >>>>>> ended midnight 1979/80.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Consider yourself lucky. Catholics have traditionally been supporters of
> >>>>> the Liberal party in Ontario and there was a push for "equality in
> >>>>> education" back in the 1980s. The PCs had been in power for years, but
> >>>>> when it looked like they might lose an election on the issue they caved
> >>>>> and granted full funding to Catholic boards right up to Gr. 13, though
> >>>>> nothing ever stopped them from going to public schools.
> >>>>
> >>>> I didn't understand what my neighbour meant when she said to me "The
> >>>> schools are segregated so it will depend which ones your children go
> >>>> to" - I of course thought she meant by colour and my heart sank,
> >>>
> >>> Of course you would think that.
> >>
> >> Yes, of course I would! Having lived in many countries I had never
> >> encountered such an antiquated idea as dividing schools by religion!
> >
> >
> >Many countries have faith based schools. The US has parochial school.
> >The UK has faith schools.
>
> The UK 'faith' schools were all private schools the last time I
> looked.

Some are private but most are not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_school

"In 2011, about one third of the 20,000 state funded schools in England
were faith schools, approximately 7,000 in total, of which 68% were
Church of England schools and 30% were Roman Catholic. There were 42
Jewish, 12 Muslim, 3 Sikh and 1 Hindu faith schools"


Janet. UK

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:54:41 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2016-07-13 7:51 PM, wrote:
> >
> > Yes, of course I would! Having lived in many countries I had never
> > encountered such an antiquated idea as dividing schools by religion!
>
>
> Many countries have faith based schools. The US has parochial school.
> The UK has faith schools.

That uninformed pronouncement was typical of her type.

--

sf

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:57:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 7/13/2016 8:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> Yes, of course I would! Having lived in many countries I had never
> >> encountered such an antiquated idea as dividing schools by religion!
> >
> >
> > Many countries have faith based schools. The US has parochial school.
> > The UK has faith schools.
> >
>
>
> US parochial schools were built with private funds by the religious
> organization. I understand now they may get some government funding for
> some non-religious programs. If you want to attend you pay tuition.

They are already entitled to certain services - their parents are tax
payers, just like everyone else.

--

sf

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:24:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> You had to be Catholic to
> send your kids to the Catholic separate schools.

Not true today, but it helps when the school is particularly popular.

--

sf

Janet wrote:
>
> There were 42
> Jewish, 12 Muslim, 3 Sikh and 1 Hindu faith schools"

God only knows what kind of kids are being processed in those schools.
oh man ;o

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 23:09:17 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:43:52 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> very easy to politely say you're not interested. It's not like
>>> any of them have ever tried to pull a gun on me or push their way into
>>> my
>>> house after all.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>Several years ago when they seemed to be in my neighborhood
>>almost weekly and would continuously ring my doorbell I hit
>>upon a solution. I put a sign on my door that read "Day
>>Sleeper, Ring Doorbell at Your Own Risk." It worked wonders.
>
> They were around a lot then but latterly they have found that one way
> and another the bell is not answered. Most likely because people have
> go pros and can see exactly who it is.

I can see my front porch from the kitchen window so I usually just open it
and tell them no thank you, have a nice day, but then I do that with anyone
who comes to the front door that I'm not expecting.

Cheri

On 7/14/2016 8:23 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:57:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2016 8:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> Yes, of course I would! Having lived in many countries I had never
>>>> encountered such an antiquated idea as dividing schools by religion!
>>>
>>>
>>> Many countries have faith based schools. The US has parochial school.
>>> The UK has faith schools.
>>>
>>
>>
>> US parochial schools were built with private funds by the religious
>> organization. I understand now they may get some government funding for
>> some non-religious programs. If you want to attend you pay tuition.
>
> They are already entitled to certain services - their parents are tax
> payers, just like everyone else.
>


Tax the hell out of them, then eliminate their choice since they cannot
afford private tuition. Then you can indoctrinate the masses.

On 7/14/2016 6:51 AM, wrote:
> They were around a lot then but latterly they have found that one way
> and another the bell is not answered. Most likely because people have
> go pros and can see exactly who it is.

Sorry, what is a go pros?

Jill

On 7/14/2016 8:24 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-07-14 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 5:52:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed. Sometimes I think that religion is a fine thing for those
>>> who need it; other times I think it's the most pernicious evil
>>> that Homo sapiens has perpetrated upon itself.
>>
>>
>> Some people get carried away with it. I have said in the past that I
>> think addiction is often more of a habit than a physical addiction. A
>> lot of alcoholics and drug addicts find their way out of their addiction
>> through religion, but then go overboard on the religion.
>>
>>
> I may be mistaken but I believe Alcoholics Anonymous uses some sort of
> pledge to God as part of their 12 step program. Ah yes, I looked it up.
> It's called the Serenity prayer. I guess that means atheists can't
> join.
>
> Jill
>
Some see AA as a cult. Apparently, it isn't as effective as people are
led to believe. However, I have a friend who went through it and has
been TT for many years.
Graham
Graham

On 2016-07-14 11:23 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:57:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2016 8:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> Yes, of course I would! Having lived in many countries I had never
>>>> encountered such an antiquated idea as dividing schools by religion!
>>>
>>>
>>> Many countries have faith based schools. The US has parochial school.
>>> The UK has faith schools.
>>>
>>
>>
>> US parochial schools were built with private funds by the religious
>> organization. I understand now they may get some government funding for
>> some non-religious programs. If you want to attend you pay tuition.
>
> They are already entitled to certain services - their parents are tax
> payers, just like everyone else.

Yes, they are taxpayers and the government does fund education. Granted,
the funding varies from one jurisdiction to another. However, there are
additional costs that arise from the duplication of services. There are
the administrative costs of having a board office with a director,
superintendents, secretarial staff etc. Then there is the issue of
transportation. We people living close enough to a public school whose
children are being bused to a Catholic school, and at the same time,
people living near a Catholic school whose kids are being bused to a
public school. There is no Catholic high school in my town, so teens are
bused about 12 miles to the closed one.

On 7/14/2016 8:28 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 2016-07-13 7:51 PM, wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:29:09 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-07-13 7:04 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:15:54 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-07-13 6:02 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or tries to influence government policies/laws to reflect their
>>>>>>>> religious doctrines!
>>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NS used to be ruled by what the churches wanted, when we came in 1967
>>>>>>> the schools were divided into RC, Protestant and the rest! Finally
>>>>>>> ended midnight 1979/80.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consider yourself lucky. Catholics have traditionally been supporters of
>>>>>> the Liberal party in Ontario and there was a push for "equality in
>>>>>> education" back in the 1980s. The PCs had been in power for years, but
>>>>>> when it looked like they might lose an election on the issue they caved
>>>>>> and granted full funding to Catholic boards right up to Gr. 13, though
>>>>>> nothing ever stopped them from going to public schools.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't understand what my neighbour meant when she said to me "The
>>>>> schools are segregated so it will depend which ones your children go
>>>>> to" - I of course thought she meant by colour and my heart sank,
>>>>
>>>> Of course you would think that.
>>>
>>> Yes, of course I would! Having lived in many countries I had never
>>> encountered such an antiquated idea as dividing schools by religion!
>>
>>
>> Many countries have faith based schools. The US has parochial school.
>> The UK has faith schools.
>
> Originally, it was churches or religious groups who founded (and
> funded) many of the schools in the UK so a great many older schools
> still have a church connection.
>
> Janet UK
>
The village school I attended up to the 11+ was C of E. Still is. Apart
from the standard morning assembly, the only evidence of religious
indoctrination was that we had to learn a few prayers at ~9yrs of age
and were tested on them. ISTR that I was top in that:-)
Graham
Graham

On 7/14/2016 9:05 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:54:41 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-07-13 7:51 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:29:09 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-07-13 7:04 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:15:54 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2016-07-13 6:02 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or tries to influence government policies/laws to reflect their
>>>>>>>>> religious doctrines!
>>>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NS used to be ruled by what the churches wanted, when we came in 1967
>>>>>>>> the schools were divided into RC, Protestant and the rest! Finally
>>>>>>>> ended midnight 1979/80.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Consider yourself lucky. Catholics have traditionally been supporters of
>>>>>>> the Liberal party in Ontario and there was a push for "equality in
>>>>>>> education" back in the 1980s. The PCs had been in power for years, but
>>>>>>> when it looked like they might lose an election on the issue they caved
>>>>>>> and granted full funding to Catholic boards right up to Gr. 13, though
>>>>>>> nothing ever stopped them from going to public schools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't understand what my neighbour meant when she said to me "The
>>>>>> schools are segregated so it will depend which ones your children go
>>>>>> to" - I of course thought she meant by colour and my heart sank,
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you would think that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, of course I would! Having lived in many countries I had never
>>>> encountered such an antiquated idea as dividing schools by religion!
>>>
>>>
>>> Many countries have faith based schools. The US has parochial school.
>>> The UK has faith schools.
>>
>> The UK 'faith' schools were all private schools the last time I
>> looked.
>
> Some are private but most are not.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_school
>
> "In 2011, about one third of the 20,000 state funded schools in England
> were faith schools, approximately 7,000 in total, of which 68% were
> Church of England schools and 30% were Roman Catholic. There were 42
> Jewish, 12 Muslim, 3 Sikh and 1 Hindu faith schools"
>
>
> Janet. UK
>
There are some illegal Haredi schools in London.
Graham

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> There is no Catholic high school in my town, so teens are
> bused about 12 miles to the closed one.

Why are they being bused to a closed school?

On 7/14/2016 9:29 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> There is no Catholic high school in my town, so teens are
>> bused about 12 miles to the closed one.
>
> Why are they being bused to a closed school?
>


we don't need no education . . . teachers - leave those kids alone!

On 7/14/2016 12:21 PM, graham wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 8:24 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/14/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2016-07-14 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 5:52:23 PM UTC-4,
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed. Sometimes I think that religion is a fine thing for those
>>>> who need it; other times I think it's the most pernicious evil
>>>> that Homo sapiens has perpetrated upon itself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Some people get carried away with it. I have said in the past that I
>>> think addiction is often more of a habit than a physical addiction. A
>>> lot of alcoholics and drug addicts find their way out of their addiction
>>> through religion, but then go overboard on the religion.
>>>
>>>
>> I may be mistaken but I believe Alcoholics Anonymous uses some sort of
>> pledge to God as part of their 12 step program. Ah yes, I looked it up.
>> It's called the Serenity prayer. I guess that means atheists can't
>> join.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Some see AA as a cult. Apparently, it isn't as effective as people are
> led to believe. However, I have a friend who went through it and has
> been TT for many years.
> Graham

I'm sure it works for some people to have that "community" feeling.
Maybe. Sobriety is the goal. I applaud that. I do have an issue with
AA trying to introduce "the Lord" into it. As I've said before, I was
not raised in a religious household.

I do recall some reference in biblical lore about Jesus turning water
into wine. Seems to me some nice clean fresh water would have been more
beneficial for all concerned. Then again, he was performing a
"miracle." Heh.

Jill

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:24:48 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-07-14 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 5:52:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> >> Agreed. Sometimes I think that religion is a fine thing for those
> >> who need it; other times I think it's the most pernicious evil
> >> that Homo sapiens has perpetrated upon itself.
> >
> >
> > Some people get carried away with it. I have said in the past that I
> > think addiction is often more of a habit than a physical addiction. A
> > lot of alcoholics and drug addicts find their way out of their addiction
> > through religion, but then go overboard on the religion.
> >
> >
> I may be mistaken but I believe Alcoholics Anonymous uses some sort of
> pledge to God as part of their 12 step program. Ah yes, I looked it up.
> It's called the Serenity prayer. I guess that means atheists can't
> join.
>
> Jill

Sure they can. Even though they have to subordinate themselves
to a Higher Power, that power could be Nature.

It might stick in an atheist's craw to say "God grant me the serenity..."
but I suppose if you've hit rock bottom it could be an acceptable
alternative to drinking yourself to death.

"Lake Superior grant me the serenity..."

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:46:04 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:

> I do recall some reference in biblical lore about Jesus turning water
> into wine. Seems to me some nice clean fresh water would have been more
> beneficial for all concerned. Then again, he was performing a
> "miracle." Heh.

1. It was at a wedding feast
2. Drinking water was risky; a little alcohol in it killed off the bad bugs

Cindy Hamilton

Allen Prunty wrote:


> I don't fault them for what they do, but at last count we have more beds for
> the homeless than many larger well known cities. (Don't want to shame any of
> them with the exception of <cough> Chicago who busses their homeless to
> Louisville).


Since I work in homeless services in Chicago I know for a FACT that your statement about Chicago "busing" homeless to other cities is absolute rubbish...


--
Best
Greg

The Greatest! wrote:
> Allen Prunty wrote:
>
>
>> I don't fault them for what they do, but at last count we have more beds for
>> the homeless than many larger well known cities. (Don't want to shame any of
>> them with the exception of <cough> Chicago who busses their homeless to
>> Louisville).
>
>
> Since I work in homeless services in Chicago I know for a FACT that your statement about Chicago "busing" homeless to other cities is absolute rubbish...
>
>

http://www.ibtimes.com/homeless-bus-...ousing-2016812

For years, Oklahoma City tackled its homeless problem by handing out bus
tickets to other cities to its down-and-out residents. But once the
homeless arrived at their destination, they were often greeted with a
new one-way bus ticket, as city leaders across the nation increasingly
embraced the practice of busing out the poor, a solution that solved the
immediate problem of reducing a municipalitys homeless crisis without
actually finding housing for the needy.

The practice, criticized as "homeless dumping," has been quietly
embraced by local government leaders since the early 2000s in an effort
to diminish the public visibility of the poor and avoid costly services.
But a growing number of housing activists have begun pushing back
against the bus ticket solution, urging government officials to instead
consider permanent solutions within communities to address homelessness,
including affordable housing.

Aside from Travelers Aid, a 150-year-old international organization
that gives tickets to stranded travelers who no longer have the funds
necessary to return home, and National Runaway Safeline (NRS), which has
co-directed a program with Greyhound since 1995 that has provided more
than 14,000 free tickets to runaways, homeless and at-risk youth to
return to their home and parents after verifying the safety of their
family, the organizations providing one-way fare to the homeless are
exclusively local and city-operated. In New York, theres Project
Reconnect. San Francisco has Homeward Bound. San Diego operates Work
Your Way Home. And in Hawaii, its unique island-state status has seen
officials give out one-way plane tickets for the homeless to the mainland.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/14/2016 2:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/13/2016 5:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:33:34 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A Canadian used to post here, I forget who, she said she got
>>>>> a set of dishes at Canadian Tire. I thought that was amusing
>>>>> and that's the first time I heard of the chain.
>>>>
>>>> How can anyone forget ~patches~?
>>>
>>> Duh. Of course. Thanks.
>>
>> Did she not return briefly at one point, or was that some idiot playing
>> around?
>
> Got me, I'm inclined to the latter.

I thought so.



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"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
...
> Allen Prunty wrote:
>
>
>> I don't fault them for what they do, but at last count we have more beds
>> for
>> the homeless than many larger well known cities. (Don't want to shame
>> any of
>> them with the exception of <cough> Chicago who busses their homeless to
>> Louisville).
>
>
> Since I work in homeless services in Chicago I know for a FACT that your
> statement about Chicago "busing" homeless to other cities is absolute
> rubbish...

I don't know about Chicago but plenty of cities are doing it. Many only do
it with specific parameters. They want to get these people off the streets
so they will pay the bus fare to a relative's house in another state. Many
require proof of such a relative. However, a recent piece on the news said
that people were flocking to Seattle because they knew they could eat here.
Many lied and said that they had relatives here when they did not. Not all
places are checking this out before busing.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:05:00 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 7/14/2016 6:51 AM, wrote:
>> They were around a lot then but latterly they have found that one way
>> and another the bell is not answered. Most likely because people have
>> go pros and can see exactly who it is.
>
>Sorry, what is a go pros?
>
>Jill

A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.

On 2016-07-14 12:29 PM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> There is no Catholic high school in my town, so teens are
>> bused about 12 miles to the closed one.
>
> Why are they being bused to a closed school?
>


Oops ... to a closer school.

On 2016-07-14, > wrote:

> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.

Not really.

Front door cameras do not need to "go" anywhere. GoPro's are made to
be the favorite on-the-go camera fer millennials, extreme and X-sports
fans, etc. Lotta GoPro's on rafter/kayaker and bicyclist helmets:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoPro

WallyWorld sells 'em. I get the impression most of the cost of
Go-Pros is all the different mounts and memory cards, available.
Bring $$$$.

nb

On 7/14/2016 3:13 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:05:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/14/2016 6:51 AM, wrote:
>>> They were around a lot then but latterly they have found that one way
>>> and another the bell is not answered. Most likely because people have
>>> go pros and can see exactly who it is.
>>
>> Sorry, what is a go pros?

> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.

A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
do stuff.

nancy

On 2016-07-14 3:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>
>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>
> A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
> and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
> They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
> that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
> do stuff.
>
>
Sometimes the more dramatic footage starts off with the audio.... Hey
Ya'll . Watch this!!"

On 7/14/2016 3:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-07-14 3:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>
>> A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
>> and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
>> They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
>> that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
>> do stuff.
>>
>>
> Sometimes the more dramatic footage starts off with the audio.... Hey
> Ya'll . Watch this!!"

(laugh) These days everyone's hurting themselves filming or
getting that one last shot in front of a running bull or a
cliff, I shouldn't laugh.

nancy

On 7/14/2016 1:06 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:46:04 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
>> I do recall some reference in biblical lore about Jesus turning water
>> into wine. Seems to me some nice clean fresh water would have been more
>> beneficial for all concerned. Then again, he was performing a
>> "miracle." Heh.
>
> 1. It was at a wedding feast
> 2. Drinking water was risky; a little alcohol in it killed off the bad bugs
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Beer and wine saved many people from waterborne diseases a couple of
centuries back. Cholera was common until it was discovered contaminated
drinking water was the culprit.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:40:55 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:15:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 7/13/2016 5:52 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> There are Christian sects that forcibly marry off their young girls in
>>> puberty to old men - lets hear some male screaming about that!
>>>
>>
>>A very sexist statement. Plenty men abhor the way women, especially
>>young girls are treated by some religions, tribes, cultures. .
>
>I am happy to hear that, wish they would raise their voices against
>them publicly more often though.

Yeah, don't apologise at all, will you?

On 2016-07-14 4:40 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 3:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-07-14 3:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>>
>>> A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
>>> and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
>>> They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
>>> that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
>>> do stuff.
>>>
>>>
>> Sometimes the more dramatic footage starts off with the audio.... Hey
>> Ya'll . Watch this!!"
>
> (laugh) These days everyone's hurting themselves filming or
> getting that one last shot in front of a running bull or a
> cliff, I shouldn't laugh.
>
>

Why not laugh. They are filming it for the entertainment of others.
Unfortunately, there is some degree of humour in stupid stunts going
wrong. That's why there are so many shows airing video of stupid stunts
gone wrong.

On 7/14/2016 5:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:40:08 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> (laugh) These days everyone's hurting themselves filming or
>> getting that one last shot in front of a running bull or a
>> cliff, I shouldn't laugh.
>
> Last month there was guy here in Houston who was tweeting pictures of
> his car filling up with water during a flood. He, of course, tried to
> drive across a flooded roadway. He also made a call to his family. I
> guess it didn't occur to him to call 911. He even got out of the
> truck, then got back into it while it was sinking (letting even more
> water into the truck's cab).

Yikes, what are you doing? I'd take my chances in the river
without being stuck in the truck.

I've never seen those kind of floods, myself. Scary.

> On the lighter side, the World we be ending (for the 72nd time) on
> July 29th according to The Prophets.

Oh! Guess I don't need to rush to make that one last utility bill
payment, thanks for the heads up.

nancy

Sqwertz wrote:

> On the lighter side, the World we be ending (for the 72nd time) on
> July 29th according to The Prophets.
>
> http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/12/sorry-...ly-29-6003098/
>
> -sw

well it's about time!

On 7/14/2016 5:18 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 5:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On the lighter side, the World we be ending (for the 72nd time) on
>> July 29th according to The Prophets.
>
> Oh! Guess I don't need to rush to make that one last utility bill
> payment, thanks for the heads up.
>
> nancy

Dang, I already paid my utility bill and the cable bill, too! Can I
count on the Post Office to deliver my birthday present in time? (laugh)

Jill

On 14 Jul 2016 19:39:06 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-07-14, > wrote:
>
>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>
>Not really.
>
>Front door cameras do not need to "go" anywhere. GoPro's are made to
>be the favorite on-the-go camera fer millennials, extreme and X-sports
>fans, etc. Lotta GoPro's on rafter/kayaker and bicyclist helmets:
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoPro
>
>WallyWorld sells 'em. I get the impression most of the cost of
>Go-Pros is all the different mounts and memory cards, available.
>Bring $$$$.
>
>nb
>
>
Well what do they call the cameras that monitor the door then ? I
don't know, I live in a condo

On 7/14/2016 5:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On the lighter side, the World we be ending (for the 72nd time) on
> July 29th according to The Prophets.
>
> http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/12/sorry-...ly-29-6003098/
>
> -sw

Great timing. I won't get my free birthday dessert and glass of
champagne at the Club!

Jill

On 7/14/2016 5:45 PM, wrote:
> On 14 Jul 2016 19:39:06 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-07-14, > wrote:
>>
>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>
>> Not really.
>>
>> Front door cameras do not need to "go" anywhere. GoPro's are made to
>> be the favorite on-the-go camera fer millennials, extreme and X-sports
>> fans, etc. Lotta GoPro's on rafter/kayaker and bicyclist helmets:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoPro
>>
>> WallyWorld sells 'em. I get the impression most of the cost of
>> Go-Pros is all the different mounts and memory cards, available.
>> Bring $$$$.
>>
>> nb
>>
>>
> Well what do they call the cameras that monitor the door then ? I
> don't know, I live in a condo
>
They're called doorbell cameras. Wi-fi and smartphone enabled from what
I've read. You don't have one because you live a condo. I don't have
one because I live in a gated community. So why did you state most
people have them?

Here are a couple of examples for those who wonder about the video doorbell:

https://www.amazon.com/Ring-Wi-Fi-En.../dp/B00N2ZDXW2

and

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ring-wi-...&skuId=5814005

Jill