On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:52:11 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:40:55 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:15:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>>On 7/13/2016 5:52 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are Christian sects that forcibly marry off their young girls in
>>>> puberty to old men - lets hear some male screaming about that!
>>>>
>>>
>>>A very sexist statement. Plenty men abhor the way women, especially
>>>young girls are treated by some religions, tribes, cultures. .
>>
>>I am happy to hear that, wish they would raise their voices against
>>them publicly more often though.
>
>Yeah, don't apologise at all, will you?

No, not on that issue. There are many things like sexual harassment
at work that will probably only end when all the decent men really get
on the case of the offenders.

Personally I haven't seen or heard men, even on television/radio
condemning those religious sects. Unfortunately we have a couple of
them in Western Canada.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:52:11 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:40:55 -0300, wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:15:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 7/13/2016 5:52 PM, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There are Christian sects that forcibly marry off their young girls in
> >>>> puberty to old men - lets hear some male screaming about that!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>A very sexist statement. Plenty men abhor the way women, especially
> >>>young girls are treated by some religions, tribes, cultures. .
> >>
> >>I am happy to hear that, wish they would raise their voices against
> >>them publicly more often though.
> >
> >Yeah, don't apologise at all, will you?
>
> No, not on that issue. There are many things like sexual harassment
> at work that will probably only end when all the decent men really get
> on the case of the offenders.
>
> Personally I haven't seen or heard men, even on television/radio
> condemning those religious sects. Unfortunately we have a couple of
> them in Western Canada.

But when people condemn the extreme branch of islam that packages women
in a mailbox, you'll defend that to the death (your words).

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:55:37 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 7/14/2016 5:45 PM, wrote:
>> On 14 Jul 2016 19:39:06 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-07-14, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>>
>>> Not really.
>>>
>>> Front door cameras do not need to "go" anywhere. GoPro's are made to
>>> be the favorite on-the-go camera fer millennials, extreme and X-sports
>>> fans, etc. Lotta GoPro's on rafter/kayaker and bicyclist helmets:
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoPro
>>>
>>> WallyWorld sells 'em. I get the impression most of the cost of
>>> Go-Pros is all the different mounts and memory cards, available.
>>> Bring $$$$.
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>>>
>> Well what do they call the cameras that monitor the door then ? I
>> don't know, I live in a condo
>>
>They're called doorbell cameras. Wi-fi and smartphone enabled from what
>I've read. You don't have one because you live a condo. I don't have
>one because I live in a gated community. So why did you state most
>people have them?
>
>Here are a couple of examples for those who wonder about the video doorbell:
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Ring-Wi-Fi-En.../dp/B00N2ZDXW2
>
>and
>
>http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ring-wi-...&skuId=5814005
>
>Jill
No, those weren't what I meant at all. Around here most people have
security cameras (maybe that's the correct name) usually mounted under
the eavestroughing several feet to left or right of the door.

I often walk through a suburban development near here because I like
the gardens and often stop to chat with the owners and say how much I
like their gardens. All gardeners love to feel people see and
appreciate their work. Nearly all the houses have the cameras, not
nosiness, just ability to identify if there is trouble.

Very often if there is a crime police go door to door collecting those
videos.

On 2016-07-14, > wrote:

> Well what do they call the cameras that monitor the door then ? I
> don't know, I live in a condo

There are two kinds, that I'm aware of. A simple camera that plugs
into yer 'puter via USB. Dirt cheap. Under $10, if they even still
make 'em. Wifi capable cameras work on the web and can be controlled
by hackers, etc..... jes about anyone. Regardless, make sure you get
a "digital" camera. Again, I don't know if they even still make
analog cameras.

nb

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:07:39 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:52:11 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:40:55 -0300, wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:15:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On 7/13/2016 5:52 PM, wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> There are Christian sects that forcibly marry off their young girls in
>> >>>> puberty to old men - lets hear some male screaming about that!
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>A very sexist statement. Plenty men abhor the way women, especially
>> >>>young girls are treated by some religions, tribes, cultures. .
>> >>
>> >>I am happy to hear that, wish they would raise their voices against
>> >>them publicly more often though.
>> >
>> >Yeah, don't apologise at all, will you?
>>
>> No, not on that issue. There are many things like sexual harassment
>> at work that will probably only end when all the decent men really get
>> on the case of the offenders.
>>
>> Personally I haven't seen or heard men, even on television/radio
>> condemning those religious sects. Unfortunately we have a couple of
>> them in Western Canada.
>
>But when people condemn the extreme branch of islam that packages women
>in a mailbox, you'll defend that to the death (your words).

As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
wear it.

In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam. A Palestinian friend
wears a hajib and she has lovely amber coloured eyes. I have teased
her that she is half as stunning without her hajib as when she is
wearing it, particularly a very lovely light mauve one.

On 14 Jul 2016 22:14:59 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-07-14, > wrote:
>
>> Well what do they call the cameras that monitor the door then ? I
>> don't know, I live in a condo
>
>There are two kinds, that I'm aware of. A simple camera that plugs
>into yer 'puter via USB. Dirt cheap. Under $10, if they even still
>make 'em. Wifi capable cameras work on the web and can be controlled
>by hackers, etc..... jes about anyone. Regardless, make sure you get
>a "digital" camera. Again, I don't know if they even still make
>analog cameras.
>
>nb

I see these outside, attached to the underside of the eavestrough,
winter and summer.

On 7/14/2016 1:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 3:13 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:05:00 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/14/2016 6:51 AM, wrote:
>>>> They were around a lot then but latterly they have found that one way
>>>> and another the bell is not answered. Most likely because people have
>>>> go pros and can see exactly who it is.
>>>
>>> Sorry, what is a go pros?
>
>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>
> A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
> and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
> They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
> that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
> do stuff.
>
> nancy
>
Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
Graham

On 7/14/2016 6:11 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:55:37 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/14/2016 5:45 PM, wrote:
>>> On 14 Jul 2016 19:39:06 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-07-14, > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>>>
>>>> Not really.
>>>>
>>>> Front door cameras do not need to "go" anywhere. GoPro's are made to
>>>> be the favorite on-the-go camera fer millennials, extreme and X-sports
>>>> fans, etc. Lotta GoPro's on rafter/kayaker and bicyclist helmets:
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoPro
>>>>
>>>> WallyWorld sells 'em. I get the impression most of the cost of
>>>> Go-Pros is all the different mounts and memory cards, available.
>>>> Bring $$$$.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well what do they call the cameras that monitor the door then ? I
>>> don't know, I live in a condo
>>>
>> They're called doorbell cameras. Wi-fi and smartphone enabled from what
>> I've read. You don't have one because you live a condo. I don't have
>> one because I live in a gated community. So why did you state most
>> people have them?
>>
>> Here are a couple of examples for those who wonder about the video doorbell:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Ring-Wi-Fi-En.../dp/B00N2ZDXW2
>>
>> and
>>
>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ring-wi-...&skuId=5814005
>>
>> Jill
> No, those weren't what I meant at all. Around here most people have
> security cameras (maybe that's the correct name) usually mounted under
> the eavestroughing several feet to left or right of the door.
>
> I often walk through a suburban development near here because I like
> the gardens and often stop to chat with the owners and say how much I
> like their gardens. All gardeners love to feel people see and
> appreciate their work. Nearly all the houses have the cameras, not
> nosiness, just ability to identify if there is trouble.
>
> Very often if there is a crime police go door to door collecting those
> videos.
>
Okay, then I don't know what you were talking about someone ringing
a doorbell with a camera.

Jill

On 7/14/2016 6:11 PM, wrote:

> I often walk through a suburban development near here because I like
> the gardens and often stop to chat with the owners and say how much I
> like their gardens. All gardeners love to feel people see and
> appreciate their work. Nearly all the houses have the cameras, not
> nosiness, just ability to identify if there is trouble.
>
> Very often if there is a crime police go door to door collecting those
> videos.

Those are just security cameras. Very handy for the police,
for sure.

nancy

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:07:39 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:52:11 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:40:55 -0300, wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:15:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On 7/13/2016 5:52 PM, wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> There are Christian sects that forcibly marry off their young girls in
> >> >>>> puberty to old men - lets hear some male screaming about that!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>A very sexist statement. Plenty men abhor the way women, especially
> >> >>>young girls are treated by some religions, tribes, cultures. .
> >> >>
> >> >>I am happy to hear that, wish they would raise their voices against
> >> >>them publicly more often though.
> >> >
> >> >Yeah, don't apologise at all, will you?
> >>
> >> No, not on that issue. There are many things like sexual harassment
> >> at work that will probably only end when all the decent men really get
> >> on the case of the offenders.
> >>
> >> Personally I haven't seen or heard men, even on television/radio
> >> condemning those religious sects. Unfortunately we have a couple of
> >> them in Western Canada.
> >
> >But when people condemn the extreme branch of islam that packages women
> >in a mailbox, you'll defend that to the death (your words).
>
> As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
> CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
> wear it.

You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
suppressing culture.

> In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
> they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.

Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:02:15 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:52:11 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:40:55 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:15:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 7/13/2016 5:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are Christian sects that forcibly marry off their young girls in
>>>>> puberty to old men - lets hear some male screaming about that!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A very sexist statement. Plenty men abhor the way women, especially
>>>>young girls are treated by some religions, tribes, cultures. .
>>>
>>>I am happy to hear that, wish they would raise their voices against
>>>them publicly more often though.
>>
>>Yeah, don't apologise at all, will you?
>
>No, not on that issue. There are many things like sexual harassment
>at work that will probably only end when all the decent men really get
>on the case of the offenders.
>
>Personally I haven't seen or heard men, even on television/radio
>condemning those religious sects. Unfortunately we have a couple of
>them in Western Canada.

So what? That's your excuse to be unreasonable? I suppose you also
think women are never abusive towards men, or sexist (like you are).
Personally I haven't seen or heard women, even on television/radio
condemning abuse towards men. And don't say it rarely happens.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:30:15 -0600, graham > wrote:


>Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".

Funnily enough, it was cyclists specifically that prompted me to
install cameras in all my cars.

On 7/14/2016 4:37 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:30:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>
>> Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
>
> Funnily enough, it was cyclists specifically that prompted me to
> install cameras in all my cars.
>
I installed one because of the incidence of the deliberate accident
scam. This is where a car load of people cut you off and slam on the
brakes causing a rear ender. They then claim ridiculous amounts for
injuries etc.
Recently, there was an incident in Vancouver where, fortunately, the
victim had a dashcam and the crooks ended up in court instead.
Graham

On 2016-07-14 6:21 PM, wrote:

>
> I see these outside, attached to the underside of the eavestrough,
> winter and summer.
>



LOL thinking about my BS spewing new neighbour. I was talking to him one
day while walking down the lane and noticed a security camera on the
utility pole. I mentioned it to him and he said his brother in law is in
the security business and install a dozen of them around the property
and that no one would ever see them. I didn't bother looking, but I
wasn't even looking when I saw that one.

On 2016-07-14 6:30 PM, graham wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 1:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 7/14/2016 3:13 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:05:00 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/14/2016 6:51 AM, wrote:
>>>>> They were around a lot then but latterly they have found that one way
>>>>> and another the bell is not answered. Most likely because people have
>>>>> go pros and can see exactly who it is.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, what is a go pros?
>>
>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>
>> A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
>> and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
>> They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
>> that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
>> do stuff.
>>
>> nancy
>>
> Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".


I suppose that car drivers could use them to catch some of the crap that
cyclists pull. Dash cams are especially useful in corrupt places like
Russia where people are constantly pulling accident scams.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:46:50 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 7/14/2016 4:37 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:30:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
>>
>> Funnily enough, it was cyclists specifically that prompted me to
>> install cameras in all my cars.
>>
>I installed one because of the incidence of the deliberate accident
>scam. This is where a car load of people cut you off and slam on the
>brakes causing a rear ender. They then claim ridiculous amounts for
>injuries etc.
>Recently, there was an incident in Vancouver where, fortunately, the
>victim had a dashcam and the crooks ended up in court instead.

Good to see. Fortunately that scam hasn't taken off here (that said I
can't speak for on the mainland).

On a very similar theme, I've slammed my brakes twice on tailgaters
over the past 35 or so years of driving - both times they rear ended
my car. I was prepared for that eventuality in both cases, otherwise I
wouldn't have done it in the first place.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:49:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I suppose that car drivers could use them to catch some of the crap that
>cyclists pull.

I do. I've never kept the videos though - none of the incidents have
been serious enough, but they would have made a pretty damning
compilation if I had.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:31:18 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:
>> Very often if there is a crime police go door to door collecting those
>> videos.
>>
>Okay, then I don't know what you were talking about someone ringing
>a doorbell with a camera.
>
>Jill

The camera is mounted so part of the drive/garden/pathway and door are
covered. Just like security cameras in stores. It allows the person
inside to see exactly who, how many, are ringing the door bell.

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:35:57 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:02:15 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:52:11 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:40:55 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:15:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 7/13/2016 5:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are Christian sects that forcibly marry off their young girls in
>>>>>> puberty to old men - lets hear some male screaming about that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>A very sexist statement. Plenty men abhor the way women, especially
>>>>>young girls are treated by some religions, tribes, cultures. .
>>>>
>>>>I am happy to hear that, wish they would raise their voices against
>>>>them publicly more often though.
>>>
>>>Yeah, don't apologise at all, will you?
>>
>>No, not on that issue. There are many things like sexual harassment
>>at work that will probably only end when all the decent men really get
>>on the case of the offenders.
>>
>>Personally I haven't seen or heard men, even on television/radio
>>condemning those religious sects. Unfortunately we have a couple of
>>them in Western Canada.
>
>So what? That's your excuse to be unreasonable? I suppose you also
>think women are never abusive towards men, or sexist (like you are).
>Personally I haven't seen or heard women, even on television/radio
>condemning abuse towards men. And don't say it rarely happens.

It is considerably more rare than the reverse. Check the figures and
that even after you allow for the fact some men might feel ashamed to
admit to being beaten up by a female. It probably happens more often
to women because they are usually smaller stature.

My male friends do not call me sexist but those who are friends and
many with whom I worked back in the day say I don't give an inch, and
I feel it is a pity more women are not like that and get it sorted
out.

When I started work women were expected to quietly leave once they
knew they were pregnant etc so over the years I saw some incredible
situations unfold, so yes, I don't give an inch. I don't hate men, I
just want a fair deal.

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:37:37 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:30:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>
>>Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
>
>Funnily enough, it was cyclists specifically that prompted me to
>install cameras in all my cars.

Strange you say that, I noticed a sale on dashboard cameras and the
thought passed through my mind. I respect cyclists on the road but
sometimes they do seem to have a death wish and do the most foolhardy
things, after all, they will be the loser.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:46:50 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 7/14/2016 4:37 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:30:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
>>
>> Funnily enough, it was cyclists specifically that prompted me to
>> install cameras in all my cars.
>>
>I installed one because of the incidence of the deliberate accident
>scam. This is where a car load of people cut you off and slam on the
>brakes causing a rear ender. They then claim ridiculous amounts for
>injuries etc.
>Recently, there was an incident in Vancouver where, fortunately, the
>victim had a dashcam and the crooks ended up in court instead.
>Graham

Glad to hear that, hadn't heard about it.

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:53:44 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:46:50 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 7/14/2016 4:37 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:30:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
>>>
>>> Funnily enough, it was cyclists specifically that prompted me to
>>> install cameras in all my cars.
>>>
>>I installed one because of the incidence of the deliberate accident
>>scam. This is where a car load of people cut you off and slam on the
>>brakes causing a rear ender. They then claim ridiculous amounts for
>>injuries etc.
>>Recently, there was an incident in Vancouver where, fortunately, the
>>victim had a dashcam and the crooks ended up in court instead.
>
>Good to see. Fortunately that scam hasn't taken off here (that said I
>can't speak for on the mainland).
>
>On a very similar theme, I've slammed my brakes twice on tailgaters
>over the past 35 or so years of driving - both times they rear ended
>my car. I was prepared for that eventuality in both cases, otherwise I
>wouldn't have done it in the first place.

If I have a tail gater I merely flash my headlights when nothing is
coming in the opposite direction, tail gater merely sees what they
think is brake lights. Most amusing

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:26:56 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:53:44 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:46:50 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 7/14/2016 4:37 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:30:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
>>>>
>>>> Funnily enough, it was cyclists specifically that prompted me to
>>>> install cameras in all my cars.
>>>>
>>>I installed one because of the incidence of the deliberate accident
>>>scam. This is where a car load of people cut you off and slam on the
>>>brakes causing a rear ender. They then claim ridiculous amounts for
>>>injuries etc.
>>>Recently, there was an incident in Vancouver where, fortunately, the
>>>victim had a dashcam and the crooks ended up in court instead.
>>
>>Good to see. Fortunately that scam hasn't taken off here (that said I
>>can't speak for on the mainland).
>>
>>On a very similar theme, I've slammed my brakes twice on tailgaters
>>over the past 35 or so years of driving - both times they rear ended
>>my car. I was prepared for that eventuality in both cases, otherwise I
>>wouldn't have done it in the first place.
>
>If I have a tail gater I merely flash my headlights when nothing is
>coming in the opposite direction, tail gater merely sees what they
>think is brake lights. Most amusing


Oh, I've tapped my brake lights many a time over the years too.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:16:30 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:37:37 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:30:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
>>
>>Funnily enough, it was cyclists specifically that prompted me to
>>install cameras in all my cars.
>
>Strange you say that, I noticed a sale on dashboard cameras and the
>thought passed through my mind. I respect cyclists on the road but
>sometimes they do seem to have a death wish and do the most foolhardy
>things, after all, they will be the loser.

I encounter them frequently on a rural road near Launceston nearly
every time I head into there. I only ask that they respect the road
rules, but no chance of that. Often they will hear you coming and
intentionally block the lane. BIG ATTITUDE PROBLEM... and apparently
suicidal too, since this road is hilly and windy with endless blind
spots all the way. Logging trucks are also a daily occurrence on this
road too, it's a wonderful recipe for an accident. I just don't know
what these people are thinking.

I could go on for hours about the close shaves I've had with them.
Hence the cameras in my cars.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:14:48 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:35:57 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:02:15 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:52:11 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:40:55 -0300, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:15:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 7/13/2016 5:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are Christian sects that forcibly marry off their young girls in
>>>>>>> puberty to old men - lets hear some male screaming about that!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A very sexist statement. Plenty men abhor the way women, especially
>>>>>>young girls are treated by some religions, tribes, cultures. .
>>>>>
>>>>>I am happy to hear that, wish they would raise their voices against
>>>>>them publicly more often though.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, don't apologise at all, will you?
>>>
>>>No, not on that issue. There are many things like sexual harassment
>>>at work that will probably only end when all the decent men really get
>>>on the case of the offenders.
>>>
>>>Personally I haven't seen or heard men, even on television/radio
>>>condemning those religious sects. Unfortunately we have a couple of
>>>them in Western Canada.
>>
>>So what? That's your excuse to be unreasonable? I suppose you also
>>think women are never abusive towards men, or sexist (like you are).
>>Personally I haven't seen or heard women, even on television/radio
>>condemning abuse towards men. And don't say it rarely happens.
>
>It is considerably more rare than the reverse. Check the figures and
>that even after you allow for the fact some men might feel ashamed to
>admit to being beaten up by a female. It probably happens more often
>to women because they are usually smaller stature.

fail to see the relevance in any of that. It's not a competition as to
who is the worst.

>My male friends do not call me sexist but those who are friends and
>many with whom I worked back in the day say I don't give an inch, and
>I feel it is a pity more women are not like that and get it sorted
>out.
>
>When I started work women were expected to quietly leave once they
>knew they were pregnant etc so over the years I saw some incredible
>situations unfold, so yes, I don't give an inch. I don't hate men, I
>just want a fair deal.

I don't think you'll ever get what you consider a fair deal with an
attitude like that.

On 07/13/2016 02:58 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 06:54:30 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm of two minds on "freedom of religion". On the one hand, I feel
>>> that people have a right to be assholes. On the other hand, that right
>>> ends when someone gets hurt.
>>
>> We also need freedom /from/ religion, and in particular freedom from
>> the religious zealots harassing others and trying to indoctrinate
>> those who are not religious.
>>
>> I don't care about a person's religious beliefs, as long as they keep
>> it to themselves, don't get in my face about it or annoy me with it in
>> any other way. Especially if it involves coming uninvited onto my
>> property with their bullshit. I find that incredibly arrogant and
>> offensive.
>
> Lol at my condo the number on the pad that you dial to call the person
> is not the number of their unit, for obvious reasons. So when I
> received a letter addressed to me but with the pad number I knew the
> person did not know me and had simply copied it.
>
> It was from the JW's so I put a line through my address and marked it
> Return to Sender and then in large, red felt chip pen wrote THERE IS
> NO GOD! I didn't think anymore about it until I saw the mailman a
> couple of weeks later and he was laughing and said they made sure it
> went back to sender and it had done the rounds of the sorting office!
>
> Like you, I find that invasive and I resent it.
>

If your callers are JWs, tell them you have been disfellowshipped, but
give no details. They're never supposed to talk to their own outcasts.

Doesn't work for LDS "missionaries" or GOP canvassers.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/14/2016 3:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-07-14 3:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>>
>>> A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
>>> and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
>>> They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
>>> that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
>>> do stuff.
>>>
>>>
>> Sometimes the more dramatic footage starts off with the audio.... Hey
>> Ya'll . Watch this!!"
>
> (laugh) These days everyone's hurting themselves filming or
> getting that one last shot in front of a running bull or a
> cliff, I shouldn't laugh.
>
> nancy

Why not? LOL

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On 14 Jul 2016 19:39:06 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2016-07-14, > wrote:
>>
>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>
>>Not really.
>>
>>Front door cameras do not need to "go" anywhere. GoPro's are made to
>>be the favorite on-the-go camera fer millennials, extreme and X-sports
>>fans, etc. Lotta GoPro's on rafter/kayaker and bicyclist helmets:
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoPro
>>
>>WallyWorld sells 'em. I get the impression most of the cost of
>>Go-Pros is all the different mounts and memory cards, available.
>>Bring $$$$.
>>
>>nb
>>
>>
> Well what do they call the cameras that monitor the door then ? I
> don't know, I live in a condo

We just call ours a security camera.


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"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/14/2016 1:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 7/14/2016 3:13 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:05:00 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/14/2016 6:51 AM, wrote:
>>>>> They were around a lot then but latterly they have found that one way
>>>>> and another the bell is not answered. Most likely because people have
>>>>> go pros and can see exactly who it is.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, what is a go pros?
>>
>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>
>> A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
>> and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
>> They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
>> that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
>> do stuff.
>>
>> nancy
>>
> Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".

Ahh is that what they call my dashcam??



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On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...

> > As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
> > CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
> > wear it.
>
> You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
> suppressing culture.
>
> > In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
> > they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
>
> Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.

You really need to get out more.

Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my cashier
wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.

<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
>
> > > As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
> > > CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
> > > wear it.
> >
> > You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
> > suppressing culture.
> >
> > > In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
> > > they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
> >
> > Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.
>
> You really need to get out more.
>
> Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my cashier
> wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.
>
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>

Sorry, my muslim terminology's a bit rusty. I'm not talking about head
scarfs, but about burqas.

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:11:20 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On 14 Jul 2016 19:39:06 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2016-07-14, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>>
>>>Not really.
>>>
>>>Front door cameras do not need to "go" anywhere. GoPro's are made to
>>>be the favorite on-the-go camera fer millennials, extreme and X-sports
>>>fans, etc. Lotta GoPro's on rafter/kayaker and bicyclist helmets:
>>>
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoPro
>>>
>>>WallyWorld sells 'em. I get the impression most of the cost of
>>>Go-Pros is all the different mounts and memory cards, available.
>>>Bring $$$$.
>>>
>>>nb
>>>
>>>
>> Well what do they call the cameras that monitor the door then ? I
>> don't know, I live in a condo
>
>We just call ours a security camera.

That was what I was trying to think of but had just been looking at
some go-pro and dashcam ads and couldn't make it surface from the
senior memory banks

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:00:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>
>> > As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
>> > CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
>> > wear it.
>>
>> You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
>> suppressing culture.
>>
>> > In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
>> > they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
>>
>> Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.
>
>You really need to get out more.
>
>Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my cashier
>wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.
>
><http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>
>
>Cindy Hamilton

What a lovely link! Some bloody attractive 'mail boxes' in that lot!

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:33:59 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>>
>> > > As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
>> > > CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
>> > > wear it.
>> >
>> > You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
>> > suppressing culture.
>> >
>> > > In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
>> > > they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
>> >
>> > Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.
>>
>> You really need to get out more.
>>
>> Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my cashier
>> wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.
>>
>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>
>
>Sorry, my muslim terminology's a bit rusty. I'm not talking about head
>scarfs, but about burqas.

You should have shut up sooner then because clearly you know little
about the subject.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:00:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >
> >> > As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
> >> > CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
> >> > wear it.
> >>
> >> You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
> >> suppressing culture.
> >>
> >> > In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
> >> > they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
> >>
> >> Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.
> >
> >You really need to get out more.
> >
> >Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my cashier
> >wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.
> >
> ><http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> What a lovely link! Some bloody attractive 'mail boxes' in that lot!

I only saw one mailbox and I have no idea what she looks like.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:33:59 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> > In article >,
> >> > says...
> >>
> >> > > As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
> >> > > CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
> >> > > wear it.
> >> >
> >> > You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
> >> > suppressing culture.
> >> >
> >> > > In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
> >> > > they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
> >> >
> >> > Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.
> >>
> >> You really need to get out more.
> >>
> >> Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my cashier
> >> wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.
> >>
> >> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>
> >
> >Sorry, my muslim terminology's a bit rusty. I'm not talking about head
> >scarfs, but about burqas.
>
> You should have shut up sooner then because clearly you know little
> about the subject.

Mailbox = burqa, not head scarf. What's so hard?

On 7/15/2016 5:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/14/2016 1:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 7/14/2016 3:13 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:05:00 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/14/2016 6:51 AM, wrote:
>>>>>> They were around a lot then but latterly they have found that one way
>>>>>> and another the bell is not answered. Most likely because people
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> go pros and can see exactly who it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, what is a go pros?
>>>
>>>> A camera aimed to show who is at the front door, or whatever door.
>>>
>>> A Go Pro is a video camera that people attach to all kinds of things
>>> and it takes video of them doing all kinds of sports, etc.
>>> They attach it to their skis or their bike or their helmet and
>>> that's how you see a lot of footage of what people see when they
>>> do stuff.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>>
>> Or, as in many instances, to film anti-cyclist road rage or "accidents".
>
> Ahh is that what they call my dashcam??
>
>
>
Yes, if in a car. Go-Pro on a bike helmet.
G

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:00:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>
>>> > As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
>>> > CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
>>> > wear it.
>>>
>>> You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
>>> suppressing culture.
>>>
>>> > In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
>>> > they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
>>>
>>> Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.
>>
>>You really need to get out more.
>>
>>Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my
>>cashier
>>wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.
>>
>><http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
> What a lovely link! Some bloody attractive 'mail boxes' in that lot!

They certainly save time with hair dos which would be very freeing on a
daily basis.

Cheri

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 7:34:07 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> >
> > > > As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
> > > > CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
> > > > wear it.
> > >
> > > You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
> > > suppressing culture.
> > >
> > > > In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
> > > > they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
> > >
> > > Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.
> >
> > You really need to get out more.
> >
> > Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my cashier
> > wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.
> >
> > <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>
>
> Sorry, my muslim terminology's a bit rusty. I'm not talking about head
> scarfs, but about burqas.

Lucretia was talking about both hijabs and niqabs (which are pretty
much equivalent to burqas). I couldn't tell which one you were objecting
to. Most of the Muslims around here are pretty Westernized, although
I don't often get to Dearborn, which has much higher concentrations of
fresh immigrants.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2016-07-15 7:33 AM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:35:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>
>>>> As usual, taking my words out of context. In referring to women IN
>>>> CANADA who wear niqab or hajib I said I would defend their right to
>>>> wear it.
>>>
>>> You're defending extremist islam, which is a male chauvinist, women
>>> suppressing culture.
>>>
>>>> In point of fact, just because some Muslim women wear it does not mean
>>>> they are part of an 'extreme' branch of Islam.
>>>
>>> Oh, come on. You don't walk around like that if you're not extreme.
>>
>> You really need to get out more.
>>
>> Yesterday at the grocery store, I saw two giggling teenagers and my cashier
>> wearing hijabs. If I'd been paying attention, I might have seen more.
>>
>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-beautiful-reasons-why-these-women-love-wearing-a-hijab_us_57320575e4b0bc9cb0482225>
>
> Sorry, my muslim terminology's a bit rusty. I'm not talking about head
> scarfs, but about burqas.
>


Use the closest appropriate English word.... mask.